[Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Tom Whiteside
I started this yesterday but shelved it; now that others have posted I am a bit 
more confident and will send ---

This is such an interesting statement. I know what you mean, but still... There 
are avant-garde sympathetic folks at the Academy...  Could we possibly hope 
for supportive or even aim for enthusiastic?  OK, how about substantial 
funding for Canyon Cinema and the other 20 or so (100?) small avant-garde film 
organizations that need it right now? Take a tiny fraction of what you spend on 
regular old Lavish Hollywood Lifestyle and show some respect for experimental 
film.

It is very nice, it really is, that both Brakhage and Kuchar got their memorial 
moments at the Oscars, but why not something for them while they were still 
alive?

I know the Academy is doing very important work in film preservation and that's 
really all I know about their connection to experimental film. But taken as an 
industry, taken as American Culture #1, taken as a commercial art form that has 
learned and benefitted from the work created by experimental film pioneers for 
decades, why not show some respect and take 0.5% of the Movie Star Champagne 
Budget and fund art in this country?  Painting had an Academy once, but some 
painters broke away from it.

Tom
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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-29 Thread scott
Sorry, Fred, here I disagree with you.I'm sure the Hollywood folks could have added many other people (many of them worthy) to the list of those recognized in that memorial moment, too. But that three of those recognized--George Kuchar, Tim Hetherington, and Ricky Leacock--are makers who worked outside Hollywood, as independents, is certainly cause for celebration. It means that, in a however limited way, independent filmmakers are being recognized more broadly, as they so rightly deserve. That Saint Mark Toscano, working at the Academy, has seen to the preservation not only of Brakhage's films but Robert Nelson's, and the work of so many other independents is part of that same recognition.Like it or not, the Academy is one of few organizations devoted to cinema that has the clout to provide broad recognition, and I was thrilled to see their images on my TV screen on primetime Sunday night. Kudos to the Academy for recognizing Kuchar, Hetherington, and Leacock.Scott


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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars
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Date: Tue, February 28, 2012 7:44 pm
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 Yes ­ Owen Land, Ricky Leacock, and Jordan Belson as well.

Oh, why not Hollis Frampton, and Stan Brakhage, and Gregory J.
Markopoulos? Or Oscars to Ernie Gehr and Bruce Baillie, who are among the
living?

Or, one might ask, how likely is any of that?

In all seriousness, am I the only one who finds the many posts in this
thread a little bizarre?

I thought it was nice when Brakhage was briefly acknowlwedged in the Oscar
montage, and it's nice when other experimental filmmakers are acknowledged
too. But when we start talking about awards, have we forgotten what the
Oscars are, and what values they represent, and how different the values
of avant-garde film are? Why should we expect, or even want, more than a
passing nod from the Academy as it is currently constituted? It's really
great that the money from the Oscar-cast goes to film preservation,
including of avant-garde work. Is there any reason to expect more?

Fred Camper
Chicago

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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Francisco Torres
George Lucas was a big admirer of Arthur Lipsett since his days at USC
citing him as an influence  yet when he made millions in 1977 he did not
offer one penny to him. Lipsett died destitute some ten years larter. That
is Hollywood to you.
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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Steve Polta
For the record, the Academy Foundation actually does have an Institutional 
Grants program which provides financial support to small avant-garde film 
organizations (among other orgs) and another grant which supports film 
festivals.
Info here: http://www.oscars.org/education-outreach/grants/index.html
list of institutional recipients here: 
http://www.oscars.org/education-outreach/grants/institutional/recipients.html

There are dozens of recipients on that list, including Millennium Film 
Workshop, San Francisco Cinematheque and, notably, San Francisco's Ninth Street 
Center for Independent Film, which received $5000 [the average grant award] in 
support of its Canyon Cinema screening program. (This is all public 
information, via the link above.)

Whether a $5,000 grant from this organization is considered significant is I 
guess debatable but as Director of San Francisco Cinematheque (a recipient)—and 
I certainly wouldn't say no to more—I sure ain't complaining...

Steve Polta



--- On Wed, 2/29/12, Tom Whiteside tom.whites...@duke.edu wrote:

From: Tom Whiteside tom.whites...@duke.edu
Subject: [Frameworks] more on the Academy
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 5:28 AM



 
 




I started this yesterday but shelved it; now that others have posted I am a bit 
more confident and will send --- 
   
This is such an interesting statement. I know what you mean, but still…
There are avant-garde sympathetic folks at the Academy...  Could we 
possibly hope for “supportive” or even aim for “enthusiastic?”  OK, how about 
substantial funding for Canyon Cinema and the other 20 or so (100?) small 
avant-garde film organizations
 that need it right now? Take a tiny fraction of what you spend on regular old 
Lavish Hollywood Lifestyle and show some respect for experimental film. 
   
It is very nice, it really is, that both Brakhage and Kuchar got their memorial 
moments at the Oscars, but why not something for them while they were still 
alive?
 
   
I know the Academy is doing very important work in film preservation and that’s 
really all I know about their connection to experimental film. But taken as an 
industry, taken as American Culture #1, taken as a commercial art form that has
 learned and benefitted from the work created by experimental film pioneers for 
decades, why not show some respect and take 0.5% of the Movie Star Champagne 
Budget and fund art in this country?  Painting had an Academy once, but some 
painters broke away from
 it. 
   
Tom 




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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Fred Camper
 For the record, the Academy Foundation actually does have an
 Institutional Grants program which provides financial support to small
 avant-garde film organizations ...

This is all great to hear, and much appreciated.

I'm not sure Scott is really disagreeing with me. I think it's fine when
avant-garde film is acknowledged. My point is that we should not expect
the Academy or the Oscar telecast to recognize or award avant-garde
filmmakers in the way, from a cinema art point of view, most on the list
might feel is appropriate.

Fred Camper
Chicago

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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Adam Hyman
Lucas, of course, is not a member of the Academy


On 2/29/12 9:03 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 George Lucas was a big admirer of Arthur Lipsett since his days at USC citing
 him as an influence  yet when he made millions in 1977 he did not offer one
 penny to him. Lipsett died destitute some ten years larter. That is Hollywood
 to you.
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Adam Hyman
Oh, Filmforum received one of those last year as well.  And all that money
went to honoraria and film rentals ­ to experimental filmmakers...


On 2/29/12 9:11 AM, Steve Polta stevepo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For the record, the Academy Foundation actually does have an Institutional
 Grants program which provides financial support to small avant-garde film
 organizations (among other orgs) and another grant which supports film
 festivals.
 Info here: http://www.oscars.org/education-outreach/grants/index.html
 list of institutional recipients here:
 http://www.oscars.org/education-outreach/grants/institutional/recipients.html
 
 There are dozens of recipients on that list, including Millennium Film
 Workshop, San Francisco Cinematheque and, notably, San Francisco's Ninth
 Street Center for Independent Film, which received $5000 [the average grant
 award] in support of its Canyon Cinema screening program. (This is all
 public information, via the link above.)
 
 Whether a $5,000 grant from this organization is considered significant is I
 guess debatable but as Director of San Francisco Cinematheque (a
 recipient)‹and I certainly wouldn't say no to more‹I sure ain't complaining...
 
 Steve Polta
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 2/29/12, Tom Whiteside tom.whites...@duke.edu wrote:
 
 From: Tom Whiteside tom.whites...@duke.edu
 Subject: [Frameworks] more on the Academy
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 5:28 AM
 
   I started this yesterday but shelved it; now that others have posted I am a
 bit more confident and will send ---This is such an interesting
 statement. I know what you mean, but stillŠ There are avant-garde sympathetic
 folks at the Academy...  Could we possibly hope for ³supportive² or even
 aim for ³enthusiastic?²  OK, how about substantial funding for Canyon Cinema
 and the other 20 or so (100?) small avant-garde film organizations that need
 it right now? Take a tiny fraction of what you spend on regular old Lavish
 Hollywood Lifestyle and show some respect for experimental film.It is
 very nice, it really is, that both Brakhage and Kuchar got their memorial
 moments at the Oscars, but why not something for them while they were still
 alive? I know the Academy is doing very important work in film
 preservation and that¹s really all I know about their connection to
 experimental film. But taken as an industry, taken as American Culture #1,
 taken as a commercial art form that has learned and benefitted from the work
 created by experimental film pioneers for decades, why not show some respect
 and take 0.5% of the Movie Star Champagne Budget and fund art in this
 country?  Painting had an Academy once, but some painters broke away from it.
 Tom 
 

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Re: [Frameworks] speaking of Maya Deren...

2012-02-29 Thread Freya

I've heard it claimed that Lost Highway was filmed in the same house. It seems 
unlikely to me as they look very different unless there has been extensive 
re-modelling. I suspect that Lost Highway is just very influenced by Meshes, 
but if anyone can confirm yay or nay that would be great.

My perception is that it's just yet another one of those things someone 
somewhere made up and everyone believed... as they do...
love
Freya


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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] speaking of Maya Deren...
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 11:05 PM



Re: [Frameworks] speaking of Maya Deren...


It’s on North Kings Road, to be precise.  I have the number somewhere.  1500 or 
1600 block, I think?  Above the Sunset Strip.



Barbara Hammer just made a new film about Meshes, and filmed in the home.  She 
introduced me to the current owner of the home, whose name I can’t remember.





On 2/27/12 2:44 PM, carli...@aol.com carli...@aol.com wrote:



In a message dated 2/27/2012 12:19:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
framewo...@re-voir.com writes:

When I  met Hammid in the late 1990s, he told me Meshes of the 

Afternoon was  Maya's film. Of course he had more than a lot to do 

with it, but he  attributed the whole creative concept to her. I'm 

sure he felt she was  free to add music, and he did not claim any 

ownership or royalties in any  way.

-Pip

 

 

Anyone know the address where it was shot in LA?

 

You can tell from the first frames that it's around Woodrow Wilson Drive. The 
light's so obviously Hollywood Hills-- still looks the same up there, too.



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Re: [Frameworks] speaking of Maya Deren...

2012-02-29 Thread Adam Hyman
I¹ve never heard that.  I think it more likely (and I may have read) that
Lost Highway was filmed in Lynch¹s own house (well, for those scenes, not
the prison) ­ he has two or three bungalows of that sort adjacent to each
other, or as a compound.


On 2/29/12 2:10 PM, Freya freya...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 I've heard it claimed that Lost Highway was filmed in the same house. It seems
 unlikely to me as they look very different unless there has been extensive
 re-modelling. I suspect that Lost Highway is just very influenced by Meshes,
 but if anyone can confirm yay or nay that would be great.
 
 My perception is that it's just yet another one of those things someone
 somewhere made up and everyone believed... as they do...
 love
 Freya
 
 
 --- On Mon, 2/27/12, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote:
 
 From: Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] speaking of Maya Deren...
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 11:05 PM
 
 Re: [Frameworks] speaking of Maya Deren... It¹s on North Kings Road, to be
 precise.  I have the number somewhere.  1500 or 1600 block, I think?  Above
 the Sunset Strip.
 
 Barbara Hammer just made a new film about Meshes, and filmed in the home.
 She introduced me to the current owner of the home, whose name I can¹t
 remember.
 
 

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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread marilyn brakhage
On the other hand, he has given some support to Bruce Baillie, I  
believe.


On 29-Feb-12, at 9:03 AM, Francisco Torres wrote:



 George Lucas was a big admirer of Arthur Lipsett since his days at  
 USC citing him as an influence  yet when he made millions in 1977 he  
 did not offer one penny to him. Lipsett died destitute some ten  
 years larter. That is Hollywood to you.
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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Toscano
Quite a bit.  And to Canyon Cinema in past years.

Mark T




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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy
 
On the other hand, he has given some support to Bruce Baillie, I  
believe.


On 29-Feb-12, at 9:03 AM, Francisco Torres wrote:



 George Lucas was a big admirer of Arthur Lipsett since his days at  
 USC citing him as an influence  yet when he made millions in 1977 he  
 did not offer one penny to him. Lipsett died destitute some ten  
 years larter. That is Hollywood to you.
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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Carlileb
 
In a message dated 2/29/2012 10:24:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
a...@lafilmforum.org writes:

George  Lucas was a big admirer of Arthur Lipsett since his days at USC 
citing him as  an influence  yet when he made millions in 1977 he did not offer 
one  penny to him. Lipsett died destitute some ten years larter. That is 
Hollywood  to you.




Coppola used to say that Lucas was always incredibly cheap. He'd never  
spend his own money on films, nor would he try to use his personal contacts to  
get deals for a production he was involved in, if they ever needed it.
 
Schmuck. And his post-75 films look it, too. He's an artistic failure for  
sure. Space operas are his legacy? How sad.
 
And btw, whatever happened to that desire of his (a la Vanity Fair) to grow 
 again as an artist, to recover some of his old steam from the late 60s?
 
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Re: [Frameworks] more on the Academy

2012-02-29 Thread Carlileb
 
In a message dated 2/29/2012 9:16:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jihalp...@yahoo.com writes:

But I'm guessing Lucas was also influenced by Frank Capra, John  Huston, 
and Charles Dickens. Should he be faulted for not offering one penny  to those 
folks? 




Yes.
 
What else is money for?
 
The problem with Lucas is that he WENT ON RECORD back in the early 70s as  
wanting to do all of these great things when he could.
 
Yet he never did.
 
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[Frameworks] SATURDAY @ranspace: {S0NiK}Fest 5 Synthetic Zero Event artfilmperformance

2012-02-29 Thread Mitsu Hadeishi
The next {SØNiK}Fest 5 and Synthetic Zero Event

Saturday March 3, 7-10p - Ran Tea House - 269 kent ave brooklyn




The next {SØNiK}Fest 5 and Synthetic Zero Event will be on Saturday, March 3rd, 
7pm - 10pm, at the Ran Tea House at 269 Kent Avenue, Williamsburg, NY 11211, 
curated by Mitsu Hadeishi and Seyhan Musaoglu. We will have art installations, 
experimental film/video, performance, music, noise. The event will be free 
(donations accepted).
performance

Greg Potter - Brooklyn, NY 
Jane V Hsu and Chris Hosea, So Many Fortresses - New York, NY 
Seyhan Musa - electronic / noise - Brooklyn, NY

installation

Aaron Oldenburg - Optic Echo - iPad app - Baltimore, MD 
Sophia Brueckner - The Code That Sings Itself - sound installation - 
Providence, RI 
Adam Tindale - Record - sound installation - Calgary, Canada 
Scott F. Hall - Power Ambient Peal - sound installation - Orlando, FL 
Jorn Ebner - Falsches Radio - sound installation - Berlin, Germany 
Rebekkah Palov - Ever - real-time video installation - Hornell, NY 
Carlo Zanni - My Country is a living room - interactive video installation - 
La Spezia, Italy 
J. Robinson - Nothing to Undo GLI.TC/H - video installation - 
Charlottesville, VA

experimental film

Traci Tullius Home - New York, NY 
Alison Ward, The Audience 
Lee Young Joo - Mirrored - Frankfurt, Germany 
Elizabeth Monoian - Desert Women - United Arab Emirates 
Charles Chadwick - The Vagrant of Ephemera - South San Francisco, CA 
Ran Slavin - Untitled - Tel Aviv, Israel 
Zeljka Blaksic aka Gita Blak - Not Your Rabbit - Zagreb, Crotia 
Nick Briz - A New Ecology for the Citizen of a Digital Age - Chicago, IL 
Christopher Conry - Bone Palace Ballet - Brooklyn, NY 
Enrique Maitland - Orchids  Kettle Black - Brooklyn, NY

future events

If you'd like to suggest a future event, would like to curate a show or submit 
visual art, video, film, music or a performance, please email mitsu at 
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or Blu-Ray disc to:

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Preferred formats for video are DVD (NTSC or PAL) or Blu-Ray disc. 

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