[Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
I've been using a Sony A1U shooting in 1080i. I have a transfer box that is pretty good, (it's just a mirror and a lens basically) The thing that sucks is that I can't get it to be strobe free without using the video camera at the '15' shutter speed. This looks weird when there is a lot of action in the 16mm film. I am using a basic bell and howell blue school projector. Any ideas on how to record a better image with this gear? thanks in advance. kristie Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project The Mission, San Francisco, CA 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' - - - Issac Asimov___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
You need a 5 blade projector if you're shooting 29.97. You can use a standard projector if your camera will shoot 24fps. Sell the Sony, and buy a used Canon XG-A1. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm projector in Reykjavik
Sure, contact Rebecca and Thoranna at Kinosmidja i...@kinosmidja.com. They show 16mm regularly... http://www.kinosmidja.is/agenda At 11:56 -0400 22/06/12, Stefan Grabowski wrote: Hello Frameworkers, My girlfriend and I will be hosting a film screening in Reykjavik at the end of July and are having trouble locating a 16mm projector to use. Anyone have an idea? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Mike Hoolboom's new online book
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:26:07 -0400 From: Mike Hoolboom fri...@interlog.com To: i...@re-voir.com Subject: hi pip hi pip latest publishing venture, a free to download monograph about canadian filmmaker and writer ellie epp it's here http://www.ellieepp.com/monograph/ellieepp29MB.pdf. if there's anyone you know that might be interested in such a thing, please don't hesitate to forward hope all's well, mike ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm projector in Reykjavik
Try Rebecca Moran of the Kino Club there. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
I agree. I have a Canon XH-A1 and shooting right off of the screen in 24F mode produces pretty decent results. In the following example I was playing the film on an ordinary Kodak Pageant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUZkP0WLgaGG9Yhbc4Yd8SXwfeature=player_detailpagev=xF-0sYsLP10 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:23 AM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote: You need a 5 blade projector if you're shooting 29.97. You can use a standard projector if your camera will shoot 24fps. Sell the Sony, and buy a used Canon XG-A1. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC
So, I have a 100' roll of Tri-X 16mm that I want an HD transfer of. It's mostly stills and little burst of video that I intended as sketches and tests for a longer project. Anyone know of lab that's not gonna give me any jive about roll minimums that I can take a subway to? Or any ad hoc solutions? Always, Alex ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC
Why not have some one with an HD camera film it off of a screen or wall? I'm sure a small sum or a 6 pack would be sufficient. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:22 PM, alex.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: So, I have a 100' roll of Tri-X 16mm that I want an HD transfer of. It's mostly stills and little burst of video that I intended as sketches and tests for a longer project. Anyone know of lab that's not gonna give me any jive about roll minimums that I can take a subway to? Or any ad hoc solutions? Always, Alex ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- www.ryanmarino.com www.imminentfrequencies.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC
I thought about that and was following the other discussion about this. I'd really like something that will look good when the stills are uploaded to a website later. So I guess I'm looking for the cheapest professional looking transfer in NYC or a time consuming and cheap way of achieving that quality that is maybe something like finding the stills and motion parts I want with a steenbeck and hand scanning the 3600 individual frames myself? Anything but a garage transfer is what I'm saying. Technicolor is saying $0.48/ft with a student discount. Anyone think I can beat that? On Friday, June 22, 2012, Ryan Marino wrote: Why not have some one with an HD camera film it off of a screen or wall? I'm sure a small sum or a 6 pack would be sufficient. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:22 PM, alex.mccar...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'alex.mccar...@gmail.com'); wrote: So, I have a 100' roll of Tri-X 16mm that I want an HD transfer of. It's mostly stills and little burst of video that I intended as sketches and tests for a longer project. Anyone know of lab that's not gonna give me any jive about roll minimums that I can take a subway to? Or any ad hoc solutions? Always, Alex ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com'); https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- www.ryanmarino.com www.imminentfrequencies.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Robert Nelson film query
Hi Frameworkers, I'm planning a Robert Nelson tribute for August and am wondering about two films listed at Film-Makers' Coop. Both are by Stephen Gebhardt. One is titled Cincinnatti Answer Print and the other is titled Legendary Epics, Yarns and Fables Part 1: Robert Nelson. Both are dated 1969, both are listed as running 11 minutes, both are described as films with Nelson speaking. I'm wondering if these are the same movie or variations on the same material. Does anyone know? Additionally, has anyone on the list seen either of these? Of course, I could rent them, and may do so, but am also interested if anyone has thoughts on them here. Thanks, Andy Ditzler www.filmlove.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC
colorlab http://www.colorlab.com/nyc3.html will do it for 30 cents a foot. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Alex McCarron alex.mccar...@gmail.comwrote: I thought about that and was following the other discussion about this. I'd really like something that will look good when the stills are uploaded to a website later. So I guess I'm looking for the cheapest professional looking transfer in NYC or a time consuming and cheap way of achieving that quality that is maybe something like finding the stills and motion parts I want with a steenbeck and hand scanning the 3600 individual frames myself? Anything but a garage transfer is what I'm saying. Technicolor is saying $0.48/ft with a student discount. Anyone think I can beat that? On Friday, June 22, 2012, Ryan Marino wrote: Why not have some one with an HD camera film it off of a screen or wall? I'm sure a small sum or a 6 pack would be sufficient. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:22 PM, alex.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: So, I have a 100' roll of Tri-X 16mm that I want an HD transfer of. It's mostly stills and little burst of video that I intended as sketches and tests for a longer project. Anyone know of lab that's not gonna give me any jive about roll minimums that I can take a subway to? Or any ad hoc solutions? Always, Alex ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- www.ryanmarino.com www.imminentfrequencies.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] split reel in NYC? Screening info!
We have on here at Millennium. We usually don't rent split reels, but if there is someone local who can vouch for you, then we can do it. You would need to leave a cash deposit. Best, Jay Hudson (212) 673-0090 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:59 PM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello frameworkers - I am screening a short 16mm film at White Columns on Weds, June 27 at 8pm (event info listed here: http://www.facebook.com/events/102870923187874/) and am looking for a split reel for the occasion. Does anyone either have one I could borrow or know a place I could rent one? Or buy an inexpensive used one? With the short notice, my LA options are a little pricey(unless someone here has one I could borrow for the week!) Thanks! Mariah. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Looking to buy ALL 16mm film
Thanks but I was actually looking to find film cheaper than Kodak's student price. If anyone has any expired/unwanted unshot 16mm film that they could sell to me or donate. Thanks Mason On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:19 PM, robbie wrote: call Kodak and Fuji and speak to your local or local-ish rep. if you can not get samples, contact 800-621-FILM with your order needs. youll provide your student i.d. via email to kodak and receive 30% discount. if, still too pricey, call or drop by some film production houses or labs that work in 16mm to inquire for short-ends (unused film from productions). i also find 16mm deals on craiglist at times. robbieland From: Jason Stauffacher jasonstauffac...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Looking to buy ALL 16mm film Mason, here is the info for Kodak's film ordering: 1-800-621-3456 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Mason Shefa msh...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I'm a student Mason Shefa Yale University Jonathan Edwards College '15 818.517.9061 | mason.sh...@yale.edu www.masonshefa.com On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Mariah Garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Kodak is indeed still alive and kicking. They also have great student deals and have been known to donate film to projects if you speak with the student rep (you are a student, right mason?) On Jun 19, 2012, at 19:32, 飯村隆彦 iim...@gol.com wrote: This is wrong mail address. On 2012/06/20, at 8:08, Jason Stauffacher wrote: Mason: I called Kodak in California for you. They do sell the 16mm stock. Do you wish me to give you the line for Kodak's film division? -Jason On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Jason Stauffacher jasonstauffac...@gmail.com wrote: Does not Kodak still sell it? I get my Super8 stock from there. You may want to call them. I have the US California number if you are so interested. -Jason On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Mason Chadwick Shefa msh...@gmail.com wrote: Unshot film On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Jason Stauffacher wrote: May I ask what you mean by film stock? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Mason Chadwick Shefa msh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry I meant film stock. On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Jason Stauffacher wrote: There is a lot on Ebay that have full movies.. -Jason On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Mason Chadwick Shefa msh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! This is my first time back in this group since I left last fall (after the whole attachment scandal and facebook page exodus Lol.) Anyway, I'm looking to buy a boatload of 16mm film for a film I'm working on. Does anyone have a lot of film they are willing to sell/give away to a young filmmaker? It doesn't matter what kind of film, really, but if I had to have a preference, I would say black and white. Looking to buy a lot. Thanks, and I'm glad to be back on the list. Mason Chadwick Shefa Yale University, '15 Jonathan Edwards College www.masonshefa.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Takahiko iimura iim...@gol.com Brog(Japanese) http://takaiimura.sblo.jp/ Brog(English) http://takahikoiimua.sblo.jp HP(English/Japanese):http://www.takaiimura.com/ NewDVD:http://www.takaiimura.com/Sale.html ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Cheap Transfer In NYC
If you really want HD for sketches and tests, then borrow an XH-A1 (or similar) and project the film onto a piece of matte board (more smooth and even than a wall) getting the camera as close to the projector as possible to minimize parallax. The results can be surprisingly good. Probably best to use manual iris bracket exposures, and do a few takes. If you want high quality stills, try to borrow an analytic projector, or some other model with a pause function that will project a still frame without burning up the film. Then shoot that with a DSLR. There's more detail in 16mm than any HD transfer can capture. Unless it's footage you know you want to use for a serious project / finished product paying for a good frame-by-frams scan isn't cost effective. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Looking to buy ALL 16mm film
There used to be a good market for short ends you could call up Rafik or Film Emporium and say What 16mm can you give me for four cents a foot today? and get something useful. With the demise of 16mm theatrical production, there are very few 16mm short ends available now, and what is available is nearly as expensive as new stock (usually more expensive than the Kodak student price). Interestingly enough, because there's still a lot of 35mm production going on and because the demand for 35mm short ends is smaller, you can often get 35mm short ends for substantially less than 16mm. I've been shooting an increasing amount of stuff with a 35mm Eyemo just because the stock is cheaper now. You can still call Film Emporium today or look on their website and see what they have for sale, but you won't find a lot of people today with a bunch of short ends sitting around in the fridge anymore.. and the folks who do have them know that they can sell them to Film Emporium for good money, sadly. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
haha Thanks, but the reason I bought the Sony was because I am working on a documentary, and that is the same camera that my documentary partner has, sooo.until we finish shooting that I can't get rid of this Sony. What would be a make and model of a five blade projector I could maybe look for? thanks for your advice... Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project The Mission, San Francisco, CA 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' - - - Issac Asimov From: djte...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:23:55 -0400 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm You need a 5 blade projector if you're shooting 29.97. You can use a standard projector if your camera will shoot 24fps. Sell the Sony, and buy a used Canon XG-A1. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks