[Frameworks] 8mm movies in LA - rent, borrow, steal
Hey all, I am putting on a little event in LA for the next downtown artwalk with this cool little collectors/antiques shop on Main st. I am looking for some R8 or S8 movies - the kinds that were sold by the major studios and were usually either sections of feature films or short cartoons and what not. I don't have a budget, but I'm willing to spend a little to get them (but not enough to buy). Does anyone know where I can get some? Unfortunately, the Echo Park Film Center is closed for July and I can't rent from them. Much appreciated for the help. Huck -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 8mm movies in LA - rent, borrow, steal
I have a few Super8 you can borrow. The only issue I am way over in Minneapolis. I have some home movies, Woody Woodpecker. I even got two Bettie Page on 8mm. Not sure I would mail you those, but the Woody Woodpecker, family movies, etc... -Jason On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Huckleberry Lain huckleberryl...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, I am putting on a little event in LA for the next downtown artwalk with this cool little collectors/antiques shop on Main st. I am looking for some R8 or S8 movies - the kinds that were sold by the major studios and were usually either sections of feature films or short cartoons and what not. I don't have a budget, but I'm willing to spend a little to get them (but not enough to buy). Does anyone know where I can get some? Unfortunately, the Echo Park Film Center is closed for July and I can't rent from them. Much appreciated for the help. Huck -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 8mm movies in LA - rent, borrow, steal
If you can pay for shipping, I have digests of The Poseidon Adventure, Star Trek: The Movie, and It Came from Outer Space that you are welcome to keep. On Jul 2, 2012 2:49 AM, Huckleberry Lain huckleberryl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I am putting on a little event in LA for the next downtown artwalk with this cool little collectors/antiques shop on Main st. I am looking for some R8 or S8 movies - the kinds that were sold by the major studios and were usually either sections of feature films or short cartoons and what not. I don't have a budget, but I'm willing to spend a little to get them (but not enough to buy). Does anyone know where I can get some? Unfortunately, the Echo Park Film Center is closed for July and I can't rent from them. Much appreciated for the help. Huck -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Tuesday/London
London Frameworkers, A late notice that I'll be showing a few of my multiprojector films as part of a group show in the Unconscious Archives series tomorrow night at Café Oto at 8 p.m. It's a packed bill with 5 expanded cinema performances, and it looks to be a really wonderful show. More details here: http://www.cafeoto.co.uk/unconscious-archive-sculpture-joel-stern-roger-beebe-stephen-cornford-simon-payne.shtm. Hope you can make it by. Best, Roger ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 8mm movies in LA - rent, borrow, steal
Try asking on 16mmfilmtalk.com. There are a _lot_ of those Castle compilations and other 8mm reductions of shorts out there. Also take a look on Ebay. The things do not sell for much. Put some $1 bids down on Ebay and see what you wind up with. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
Although I haven't seen it yet- I've heard great things about Gerard Richter Painting as a look inside the artist's work. http://www.gerhardrichterpainting.com/ Mostly just playing now at smaller art-houses, but you can find out where on the website And, although it's fiction - Basquiat (1996) is really engaging and may be helpful. I've made a few short pieces about artists as well, and I think the important thing for me has been to find what motivates the artist in his/her work and then use that as motivation for the film itself. (Like if an artist is greatly inspired by nature - including that raw inspiration material into the film can give the audience a sense of seeing as the artist) Just some thoughts - good luck! I'd love to hear how it goes! Bryan On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] film about food
Hi. I'm organizing a experimantal film exhibition about fodd. Have you got suggestion about film and artist. I'd like have 16mm or super8 or 8mm. This film should be readily available for hire. thanks a lot. F. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
GOLUB: LATE WORKS ARE THE CATASTROPHES is supposed to be interesting; I haven't seen it yet but you can find it on the internet. SIGNER'S SUITCASE and definitely PINA. Best, Vera Missoula, MT On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Sony repair
Can anyone recommend a good Sony repair shop in the west or southwest? I’ve got an old DSR-11 DVcam deck that needs work. I had it completely refurbished at Digitron Electronics in Montebello one year ago for $700 (90 day warranty on parts), and now it’s down again, so I’m not eager to send it back to them.___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
Joan Mitchell: portrait of an abstract painter by the late Marion Cajori. On Jul 2, 2012 10:48 AM, Vera Brunner-Sung vbs...@gmail.com wrote: GOLUB: LATE WORKS ARE THE CATASTROPHES is supposed to be interesting; I haven't seen it yet but you can find it on the internet. SIGNER'S SUITCASE and definitely PINA. Best, Vera Missoula, MT On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
Derek Jarman's Caravaggio On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Thomas Dexter thomas.dex...@gmail.comwrote: Joan Mitchell: portrait of an abstract painter by the late Marion Cajori. On Jul 2, 2012 10:48 AM, Vera Brunner-Sung vbs...@gmail.com wrote: GOLUB: LATE WORKS ARE THE CATASTROPHES is supposed to be interesting; I haven't seen it yet but you can find it on the internet. SIGNER'S SUITCASE and definitely PINA. Best, Vera Missoula, MT On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Salise Hughes Artist, Filmmaker, Armchair Anthropologist http://salisehughes.blogspot.com Please support grassroots fundraising for artists projects. I am currently seeking funds for my next film project Charade through USA Projects. http://www.usaprojects.org/project/charade ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
How to Draw A Bunny about the artist, Ray Johnson. Scott Walker: 30th Century Man, is about a musician, but also worth watching. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote: THE PAINTER SAM FRANCIS by Jeffrey Perkins There was a very good film on Louise Bourgeoise a couple of years ago, but I can’t recall the exact title. Her name was in it though. Beatrice Wood: The Mama of Dada The new film on Marina Abramovic Filmforum is showing a film in a few weeks on music artists called The Reach of Resonance by Steven Elkins which I think works as a good model for a film on any artist. On 7/2/12 9:50 AM, Salise Hughes salise.hug...@gmail.com wrote: Derek Jarman's Caravaggio On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Thomas Dexter thomas.dex...@gmail.com wrote: Joan Mitchell: portrait of an abstract painter by the late Marion Cajori. On Jul 2, 2012 10:48 AM, Vera Brunner-Sung vbs...@gmail.com wrote: GOLUB: LATE WORKS ARE THE CATASTROPHES is supposed to be interesting; I haven't seen it yet but you can find it on the internet. SIGNER'S SUITCASE and definitely PINA. Best, Vera Missoula, MT On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- http://www.etsy.com/shop/RedAvaDesigns http://www.redavadesigns.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
The Spider, the Mistress, and the Tangerine, by Marion Cajori and Amei Wallach? On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote: THE PAINTER SAM FRANCIS by Jeffrey Perkins There was a very good film on Louise Bourgeoise a couple of years ago, but I can’t recall the exact title. Her name was in it though. Beatrice Wood: The Mama of Dada The new film on Marina Abramovic Filmforum is showing a film in a few weeks on music artists called The Reach of Resonance by Steven Elkins which I think works as a good model for a film on any artist. On 7/2/12 9:50 AM, Salise Hughes salise.hug...@gmail.com wrote: Derek Jarman's Caravaggio On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Thomas Dexter thomas.dex...@gmail.com wrote: Joan Mitchell: portrait of an abstract painter by the late Marion Cajori. On Jul 2, 2012 10:48 AM, Vera Brunner-Sung vbs...@gmail.com wrote: GOLUB: LATE WORKS ARE THE CATASTROPHES is supposed to be interesting; I haven't seen it yet but you can find it on the internet. SIGNER'S SUITCASE and definitely PINA. Best, Vera Missoula, MT On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Salise Hughes Artist, Filmmaker, Armchair Anthropologist http://salisehughes.blogspot.com Please support grassroots fundraising for artists projects. I am currently seeking funds for my next film project Charade through USA Projects. http://www.usaprojects.org/project/charade ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] film about food
Food by Gordon Matta-Clarke 1972 16mm. http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=761 On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, franco base wrote: Hi. I'm organizing a experimantal film exhibition about fodd. Have you got suggestion about film and artist. I'd like have 16mm or super8 or 8mm. This film should be readily available for hire. thanks a lot. F. -- http://www.bristol-channel.org/skomer ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] film about food
Confirmation Day (1934) - Karl Valentin The Last of the Persimmons (1972) - Pat O'Neil Mouth to Anus (2011) - Stefani Bardin On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:51 PM, graeme hogg graemeh...@irational.org wrote: Food by Gordon Matta-Clarke 1972 16mm. http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=761 On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, franco base wrote: Hi. I'm organizing a experimantal film exhibition about fodd. Have you got suggestion about film and artist. I'd like have 16mm or super8 or 8mm. This film should be readily available for hire. thanks a lot. F. -- http://www.bristol-channel.org/skomer ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] film about food
How to Eat (1965) - Michael Siporin On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, franco base wrote: Hi. I'm organizing a experimantal film exhibition about fodd. Have you got suggestion about film and artist. I'd like have 16mm or super8 or 8mm. This film should be readily available for hire. thanks a lot. F. -- http://www.bristol-channel.org/skomer ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Shumona Goel wrote: I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Chuck Kleinhans Since you indicated that you are still learning your craft and this is to be a short project, let me suggest this, in contradistinction to the fine (but feature length for the most part) films other s have suggested. It is almost always interesting to show the manual process of artistic creation. This also gives you a logical narrative spine for the film: beginning to end, inspiration to completion, etc. You can thus show the activity of art making and use a voice over from one or more separate interviews to inform in a verbal way. If the artist makes similar work you may be able to shoot at several different times which lets you cover something that may not have gone well in an earlier shoot. Especially for new filmmakers, it's a lot better to do a project about a repeated event (city symphony, etc.) that lets you go back for B roll, etc. than a unique event (the one championship game). Chuck Kleinhans ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
Hi Shumona, RIVERS AND TIDES is a great film about the land artist Andy Goldsworthy. Good luck with your project! Derek TaylorNew Haven, CT ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Two Films About Painters
Henri Storck has made several shorts on painters: - 'The World of Paul Delvaux' (1946) - 'Rubens' (1949) On 02 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Ray Zone wrote: On 7/1/2012 10:53 PM, Shumona Goel wrote: I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. The film The Mystery of Picasso by Henri Georges Clouzot is one of the greatest documentaries ever made about a painter. Another one is In the Realms of the Unreal by Jessica Wu about an outsider artist named Henry Darger. Ray 3D Zone ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
Since we are trotting out our favorite films on art and artists - and I generally like these thematic collections that emerge here now and again - I'll join the chorus with some of my picks: Paradjanov's Arabesques on a Theme of Pirosmani: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx0MTvRGCnY James Ivory's The Sword and the Flute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs5VugWiLzM and his Venice: Theme and Variations Straub-Huillet's Cezanne and A Visit to the Louvre All-time favorite (if slightly off-topic): Harun Farocki: Still Life (fascinating, but largely off-topic) Charles Ray Eames: The Black Ships Alain Resnais: Paul Gauguin http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqyh4_alain-resnais-paul-gauguin-dvdrip-b_shortfilms and Resnais-Marker: Statues Also Die: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Pb9nykjQA some of these are about artists, some about artworks - all share the approach of keeping the camera fixed firmly on the art and examining it in detail. a bit like Andrei Rublev without the black-and-white part. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworks, My friend and I are working on a short film about a modern Indian painter. We have been commissioned to make this film, so we are struggling with a number of issues. Although the painter is a great artist, and we have begun to admire his work, we would not necessarily make a film about him if it were not an opportunity to practice our form (film). I was wondering if you may be able to suggest films that have been made about artists for us to watch and learn how others have handled this tricky subject. Many thanks, Shumona ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film about an artist
A student of mine made a lovely portrait of a cabinet maker, which can be viewed at the link below. This might be one strategy, and largely follow the path outlined in Chuck's previous email: Kyle Kinser: Made in Makanda (by Wonjung Bae, 2010) https://vimeo.com/14951551 -Jason Halprin ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 8mm movies in LA - rent, borrow, steal
Awesome. Yes, how do you want me to pay you? I can send a check or paypal. Let me know. Thanks soo much Huck On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Dave Dvorchak ddvorc...@provcomlib.orgwrote: If you can pay for shipping, I have digests of The Poseidon Adventure, Star Trek: The Movie, and It Came from Outer Space that you are welcome to keep. On Jul 2, 2012 2:49 AM, Huckleberry Lain huckleberryl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I am putting on a little event in LA for the next downtown artwalk with this cool little collectors/antiques shop on Main st. I am looking for some R8 or S8 movies - the kinds that were sold by the major studios and were usually either sections of feature films or short cartoons and what not. I don't have a budget, but I'm willing to spend a little to get them (but not enough to buy). Does anyone know where I can get some? Unfortunately, the Echo Park Film Center is closed for July and I can't rent from them. Much appreciated for the help. Huck -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Interesting (?) Question
In 1980, an upright Moviola would have been all but worthless. Lord, those things were awful compared to a flatbed. A 6 plate Moviola flatbed in good condition might have been worth, I dunno, maybe $1000. On the other hand, used splicers and rewinds weren't that expensive in 1980 and haven't lost that much of their value. With that equipment list, the premise just doesn't work very well. The heyday of value for 16mm post stuff probably starts to poop out circa 1975, so it wasn't that expensive by 1980, and some of it is still used by people who deal with prints. By 2005, the character would have to be pretty dense or disconected to expect old 16mm equipment to have more value than it would have. People who work in 16mm in an 'art' or 'idie' context mostly had a good handle on the market, and were keen on picking up gear that corporate/industrial/education institutions were discarding in the move to video. I think your novelist may be off-track in having a 16mm maker concerned about the monetary value of gear. !6mm making isn't that much about the money, and to the extent it is, the money is in the film stock. The 'digital transition' as Frameworks so thoroughly documented, was more one of a felt loss of utility and/or soul, the tools are merely metonomy for an aesthetic, a method of working, a way of life. And the one piece of gear that embodies that is a Steenbeck (generally preferred over Moviola flatbeds by most makers AFAIK). In 1980 obtaining your own Steenebeck would have required resources of money or luck or resourcefulness. It's something you would have wanted very badly, been so happy to have obtained. A big thing taking up precious floor-space but treasured, cared for, and used intimately for hour after hour after hour. And then, at some point, (kinda 2005-ish) it becomes obsolete thanks to Final Cut Pro and Cinema Tools and Digital intermediates and what not, and the Steenebck starts gathering dust, and stuff piles up on top of it, and then you eventually you can't justify it taking up the floor-space anymore. And since you were a film die-hard, by this time it's not just that you can't sell the Steenbeck. You can't even give it away. And it winds up on the curb waiting for somebody to haul it off as scrap metal. And it's your old friend. No, it's 25 years of your life. So part of yourself is out on the curb. And that doesn't really have anything to do with market value. On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:44 PM, andrew lampert wrote: Hi, I received the inquiry below from a novelist and wonder if the collective brain trust that is Frameworks might help me provide an answer. Anyone have an idea? If so, I'll pass along your answers/guesses to her. Thanks a lot! Andrew Lampert Curator of Collections Anthology Film Archives Do you have any idea what a new or used Moviola might have cost in 1980 or so? It's more likely that my character would have bought a second-hand Moviola, maybe one that had been used in the the 1970's. My character is going to resell the Moviola, along with a lot of other nondigital 16 mm equipment (like splicers, a synchronizer, rewinds) in 2005--and get a lot less money for the stuff than he paid for it. So I have to start with some reasonably accurate original price. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks