Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films
If this category includes films that use radio broadcast as found sound then William Raban's At One qualifies, Nicky. -Original Message- From: David Baker dbak...@hvc.rr.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 4:20 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films I will citeKen's anamorphic astonishmentKRYPTON IS DOOMED (2005)http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=10759also see Mary Helena Clark's most amazingAND THE SUN FLOWERShttp://vimeo.com/42048057(Here found sound starts at 2:04 approximately.)DBOn Nov 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, William Wees, Dr. wrote: Yes, that's a good one too. I was going to mention it but couldn't remember the title. --Bill Wees There is this one by Ken Jacobs: GLOBE (1971, 22 mins, 16mm, color, sound on cassette) (Previously titled: EXCERPT FROM THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION) “Flat image (of snowbound suburban housing tract) blossoms into 3D only when viewer places Eye Opener before the right eye. (Keeping both eyes open, of course. As with all stereo experiences, center seats are best. Space will deepen as one views further from the screen.) The found-sound is X-ratable (not for children or Nancy Reagan) but is important to the film’s perfect balance (GLOBE is symmetrical) of divine and profane.” (KJ) (pasted in from http://nightingalecinema.org/ken-jacobs-x-3-old-new/) I've seen it, and am not completely sure what I thought of it. It is at the least extremely interesting. Fred Camper Chicago ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Andrew Meyer
Can someone who is familiar with the underground film scene in Boston in the 1960s tell me if a woman named Carla Liss appeared in Andrew Meyer’s “The Poor Little Match Girl” or “An Early Clue To the New Direction” (with Joy Bang)? If not, can someone recommend a history or other research source that might have a detailed filmography of Meyer that includes full credits? IMDB and the New York Co-op are not helpful. I doubt that Sheldon Renan’s book would be either. As a long shot, is there anyone on this list who knew Carla well enough to answer the question?___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!
Use a 'duplican', which is a tube that fits onto a 35mm camera body. There is a door/window at the end where a 16mm strip of film can be positioned on any one frame. So the area that gets photographed will be larger than one super 8mm frame. But once you digitize the camera negative at any finer photo shop, you can crop out what you don't want on your home computer. Ken www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com www.kenpaulrosenthal.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!
The device is a 'Duplikin II' made by Century Precision Cine/Optics. It can be fitted with various adapters to suit a particular 35mm SLR. Results aren't likely to be as good as a direct scan of the Super 8 film, but it avoids having to cut the film. - Original Message - From: Ken Paul Rosenthal To: Frameworks Postings Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints! Use a 'duplican', which is a tube that fits onto a 35mm camera body. There is a door/window at the end where a 16mm strip of film can be positioned on any one frame. So the area that gets photographed will be larger than one super 8mm frame. But once you digitize the camera negative at any finer photo shop, you can crop out what you don't want on your home computer. Ken www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com www.kenpaulrosenthal.com -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6868 - Release Date: 11/26/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6868 - Release Date: 11/26/13 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!
In addition to the Duplikin there was also the Testrite Cinelarger that was intended for single-frame blowups of movies. You could really use any slide duplicator, though. However you will not be pleased at blowups from 16mm originals let alone 8mm originals. It's always good to shoot some publicity stills while shooting the film. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!
You could try sandwiching the super 8 film in a cardboard 35mm slide mount, then using an old fashioned macro-bellows on a dslr. I've gotten some very interesting results with a bellows and my Pentax *ist DL, but I was going for abstract/experimental not reproduction. however I was able to get pretty good enlargement, and on a high end dslr like a 5D or D7000 you should have resolution enough (and color depth if you shoot raw) to make pretty big prints. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Glenn Brady gmbr...@windstream.net wrote: I've done this with Super 8 reversal film by cutting out the frames I wanted to print (a strip of six inches or so) and scanning the strip in my Minolta *Dimage Scan Dual III *(intended for 35mm transparencies and 35mm negative strips). As you suggest, you'd need to have access to telecine equipment of some sort if cutting the film isn't an option. - Original Message - *From:* Cherry Kino cherrykinocin...@yahoo.com *To:* forum labo fo...@filmlabs.org ; frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 5:04 PM *Subject:* [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints! H people! So, ok, I have a question. I want to make prints of a few choice Super 8 film frames, and I don't know how the heck to go about it. I'd like the prints to vary - some about 12 inches across, others 24 inches across, some maybe even bigger. I'm guessing… It's probably a case of getting a high quality digital scan (how?!) and then sending it to a printer… I'd like to get it done as a C-type print (which replicates the photographic process)… but this is super costly so it might need to be a digital print. If anyone has experience with this, pretty please let me know how to do it! I'm rubbish with digital scanning etc so really need to be given a clue. A big clue. :))) Cheers people! xxx Martha Jurksaitis Analogue Film and Photography Artist M: 07935 916 560 -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6865 - Release Date: 11/25/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6865 - Release Date: 11/25/13 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- *Take nothing for granted, leave nothing but doubt* *[917] 225-1491* ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!
Three years ago I had a 16mm frame scanned on a Scanmate machine, which is a drum scanner for photography. The depth and resolution was unbelievable. I had a 4ft wide print made of it, the picture held together. I can upload a sector if you are interested. Best, Marco On 26 November 2013 19:20, Jeff Kreines j...@kinetta.com wrote: The Duplikin and Testrite devices are junk. I used a Duplikin a lot, and it was quite terrible. You will get better results using a DSLR or SLR with a good macro lens (or extension tubes, or bellows) over a light box. Doing a high quality digital scan will give the best results, of course, but it will be more expensive and overkill for a still frame or two. On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: In addition to the Duplikin there was also the Testrite Cinelarger that was intended for single-frame blowups of movies. You could really use any slide duplicator, though. However you will not be pleased at blowups from 16mm originals let alone 8mm originals. It's always good to shoot some publicity stills while shooting the film. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com kinettaarchival.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- “A brave flat world.” marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!
I should have added that I totally agree with Jeff. For example, a micro-nikkor 55mm with PK-13 bellows against an ES-1 slide copying adapter against a light box, or a window with overcast sky will already do an excellent job. M On 26 November 2013 21:41, Marco Poloni mar.pol...@gmail.com wrote: Three years ago I had a 16mm frame scanned on a Scanmate machine, which is a drum scanner for photography. The depth and resolution was unbelievable. I had a 4ft wide print made of it, the picture held together. I can upload a sector if you are interested. Best, Marco On 26 November 2013 19:20, Jeff Kreines j...@kinetta.com wrote: The Duplikin and Testrite devices are junk. I used a Duplikin a lot, and it was quite terrible. You will get better results using a DSLR or SLR with a good macro lens (or extension tubes, or bellows) over a light box. Doing a high quality digital scan will give the best results, of course, but it will be more expensive and overkill for a still frame or two. On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: In addition to the Duplikin there was also the Testrite Cinelarger that was intended for single-frame blowups of movies. You could really use any slide duplicator, though. However you will not be pleased at blowups from 16mm originals let alone 8mm originals. It's always good to shoot some publicity stills while shooting the film. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com kinettaarchival.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- “A brave flat world.” marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni -- “A brave flat world.” marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bernard Roddy rodd...@yahoo.com wrote: given a certain context of achievement, would indeed appear to be a failure, but in which . . tadaaa! . . the artist has moved beyond any such wanna-be status into a strange space occupied by a particular obsession Hi there, Trying to follow your train of thought. Seems like the technique of film scratching might fall into the category of according to Hollywood, one should avoid scratching film, but because of particular obsessions, people do so. Paul Sharits, for one. And I would say his work expresses an impatience of sorts, and that the tactility of the scratches (even through visual perception) amplifies this immediacy. Maybe its a start: http://www.bboptics.com/sound-strip-film-strip.html -- ... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
Thanks. Pip once replied to a post with an example. A student using a camcorder hits play when he intends to stop and stop when he intends to play. Imagine that going on for some time. The result would be an example of what I have in mind - impossible to take much credit for! And yet . . it could be done on purpose, too. On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:29 PM, r e roeen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bernard Roddy rodd...@yahoo.com wrote: given a certain context of achievement, would indeed appear to be a failure, but in which . . tadaaa! . . the artist has moved beyond any such wanna-be status into a strange space occupied by a particular obsession Hi there, Trying to follow your train of thought. Seems like the technique of film scratching might fall into the category of according to Hollywood, one should avoid scratching film, but because of particular obsessions, people do so. Paul Sharits, for one. And I would say his work expresses an impatience of sorts, and that the tactility of the scratches (even through visual perception) amplifies this immediacy. Maybe its a start: http://www.bboptics.com/sound-strip-film-strip.html -- ...___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
Ahh interesting. That example clarifies a little for me. I see how it applies to your criteria: given a certain context of achievement, would indeed appear to be a failure, but in which . . tadaaa! . . the artist has moved beyond but not how it constitutes a strange space occupied by a particular obsession but i also see how that's just an example, and an astute one on Pip's part! can you relink the video? •__||__• On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Bernard Roddy rodd...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. Pip once replied to a post with an example. A student using a camcorder hits play when he intends to stop and stop when he intends to play. Imagine that going on for some time. The result would be an example of what I have in mind - impossible to take much credit for! And yet . . it could be done on purpose, too. On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:29 PM, r e roeen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bernard Roddy rodd...@yahoo.com wrote: given a certain context of achievement, would indeed appear to be a failure, but in which . . tadaaa! . . the artist has moved beyond any such wanna-be status into a strange space occupied by a particular obsession Hi there, Trying to follow your train of thought. Seems like the technique of film scratching might fall into the category of according to Hollywood, one should avoid scratching film, but because of particular obsessions, people do so. Paul Sharits, for one. And I would say his work expresses an impatience of sorts, and that the tactility of the scratches (even through visual perception) amplifies this immediacy. Maybe its a start: http://www.bboptics.com/sound-strip-film-strip.html -- ... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] brooklyn sublet comin up
hey folks! i'm looking for a subletter from jan 15th to march 14th: large loft in Dumbo, Brooklyn, under the Manhattan bridge, one stop on the F train to Manhattan (York Street stop): bedroom + mezzanine (accessed by ladder), large living room, wireless internet, bathroom with shower toilet, basic kitchen, roof access (great view of the city across the East River as well as the Brooklyn, Manhattan Williamsburg bridges), 6th floor, freight elevator (although I usually use the stairs); $1257/month (incl wifi) + utilities (ie electricity - my bill is usually 40 or so a month), one month deposit working steenbeck, 16mm projectors, rewinds c feel free to pass this on to any reliable people who might be interested let me know if you need any more info (pix c) cheers all round Moira moiratierney.net vimeo.com/moiratierney ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
