Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film

2014-02-27 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
Moire evidence for Brakhage.  About 15 years ago he had a show at the 
University of Oregon.  Part of his lecture and presentation involved him 
talking about Turner and showing at least one slide to make his point (about 
light and sky, as I remember).  At a meal afterwards the conversation returned 
to Turner and Stan was quite clear and detailed about which London museums had 
which Turners, which collection was better, etc. etc.  Clearly it wasn't just a 
casual knowledge but one deeply thought about, knowledge gained in those 
galleries by directly encountering the art work.  Which sort of summarizes what 
he himself stood for, I think: directly confronting and experiencing an artwork 
in all its full presence.  Certainly the best pathway into any of his films.


Chuck Kleinhans




On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Fred Camper wrote:

Not less known perhaps, but Brakhage is key here.

He cites Turner as an influence in a list of influences, as someone mentioned, 
in my Criterion liner notes. It might be worth recounting how that list was 
composed. I asked him on the phone for his most important influences from 
writers, painters, and composers, and added, You only get two of each. For 
painters he chose Turner and Pollock as the two most important. (He also added, 
on his own, an additional art, dance.)

The Text of Light would be the most important film here. Not only did he look 
at Turner, but the variability of light in Turner is deeply inscribed in that 
film. He also spoke of The Text of Light in terms of landscape. This aspect 
of light was explored even more radically in the Romans, Arabics, and 
Egyptians. The imagery in those films is far more removed from ideas of 
landscape.

Fred Camper
Chicago


Quoting Aaron Juneau 
aaron.jun...@tate.org.ukmailto:aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk:


Dear frameworks members,

I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that somebody at 
Frameworks might be able to help me with some research I'm undertaking with 
regard to an article we're publishing in a couple issues time. Essentially the 
article will focus on J.M.W Turner's influence on film. I was wondering whether 
somebody at Frameworks could advise on some interesting, perhaps less known 
filmmakers who have been influenced by him? I'm really looking at hard fact and 
solid evidence as opposed to conjecture.

Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

My very best,



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Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film

2014-02-27 Thread marilyn brakhage
More evidence for Brakhage, if needed, on our book shelves at home;  
especially the two volume set, The Paintings of JMW Turner by Martin  
Butlin and Evelyn Joll, published in 1977 by the Tate Gallery and Yale  
University (for when he couldn't see the works directly).  He often  
spoke publicly about Turner's importance to him.  Also spoke of  
wanting to go to Petworth -- but never got there.


Marilyn Brakhage


On 27-Feb-14, at 12:55 AM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:

Moire evidence for Brakhage.  About 15 years ago he had a show at  
the University of Oregon.  Part of his lecture and presentation  
involved him talking about Turner and showing at least one slide to  
make his point (about light and sky, as I remember).  At a meal  
afterwards the conversation returned to Turner and Stan was quite  
clear and detailed about which London museums had which Turners,  
which collection was better, etc. etc.  Clearly it wasn't just a  
casual knowledge but one deeply thought about, knowledge gained in  
those galleries by directly encountering the art work.  Which sort  
of summarizes what he himself stood for, I think: directly  
confronting and experiencing an artwork in all its full presence.   
Certainly the best pathway into any of his films.



Chuck Kleinhans




On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Fred Camper wrote:


Not less known perhaps, but Brakhage is key here.

He cites Turner as an influence in a list of influences, as someone  
mentioned, in my Criterion liner notes. It might be worth  
recounting how that list was composed. I asked him on the phone for  
his most important influences from writers, painters, and  
composers, and added, You only get two of each. For painters he  
chose Turner and Pollock as the two most important. (He also added,  
on his own, an additional art, dance.)


The Text of Light would be the most important film here. Not only  
did he look at Turner, but the variability of light in Turner is  
deeply inscribed in that film. He also spoke of The Text of Light  
in terms of landscape. This aspect of light was explored even more  
radically in the Romans, Arabics, and Egyptians. The imagery  
in those films is far more removed from ideas of landscape.


Fred Camper
Chicago


Quoting Aaron Juneau aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk:



Dear frameworks members,

I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that  
somebody at Frameworks might be able to help me with some research  
I'm undertaking with regard to an article we're publishing in a  
couple issues time. Essentially the article will focus on J.M.W  
Turner's influence on film. I was wondering whether somebody at  
Frameworks could advise on some interesting, perhaps less known  
filmmakers who have been influenced by him? I'm really looking at  
hard fact and solid evidence as opposed to conjecture.


Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

My very best,



Aaron Juneau
Editorial Assistant
TATE ETC. magazine
20 John Islip Street
Millbank
London
SW1P 4RG
T: +44 (0)20 7821 8606
F: +44 (0)20 7887 3940
E: aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk
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Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film

2014-02-27 Thread marilyn brakhage
Also, in print:   In Stan Brakhage's book Telling Time: Essays of a  
Visionary Filmmaker (McPherson and Company, 2003), he writes about  
Turner in his essay An Inner Argument, and also in the first section  
of the longer essay, Space As Menace in Canadian Aesthetics: Film and  
Painting.  (And there are probably more examples elsewhere.)


Marilyn Brakhage


On 27-Feb-14, at 2:26 AM, marilyn brakhage wrote:

More evidence for Brakhage, if needed, on our book shelves at home;  
especially the two volume set, The Paintings of JMW Turner by Martin  
Butlin and Evelyn Joll, published in 1977 by the Tate Gallery and  
Yale University (for when he couldn't see the works directly).  He  
often spoke publicly about Turner's importance to him.  Also spoke  
of wanting to go to Petworth -- but never got there.


Marilyn Brakhage


On 27-Feb-14, at 12:55 AM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:

Moire evidence for Brakhage.  About 15 years ago he had a show at  
the University of Oregon.  Part of his lecture and presentation  
involved him talking about Turner and showing at least one slide to  
make his point (about light and sky, as I remember).  At a meal  
afterwards the conversation returned to Turner and Stan was quite  
clear and detailed about which London museums had which Turners,  
which collection was better, etc. etc.  Clearly it wasn't just a  
casual knowledge but one deeply thought about, knowledge gained in  
those galleries by directly encountering the art work.  Which sort  
of summarizes what he himself stood for, I think: directly  
confronting and experiencing an artwork in all its full presence.   
Certainly the best pathway into any of his films.



Chuck Kleinhans




On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Fred Camper wrote:


Not less known perhaps, but Brakhage is key here.

He cites Turner as an influence in a list of influences, as  
someone mentioned, in my Criterion liner notes. It might be worth  
recounting how that list was composed. I asked him on the phone  
for his most important influences from writers, painters, and  
composers, and added, You only get two of each. For painters he  
chose Turner and Pollock as the two most important. (He also  
added, on his own, an additional art, dance.)


The Text of Light would be the most important film here. Not  
only did he look at Turner, but the variability of light in Turner  
is deeply inscribed in that film. He also spoke of The Text of  
Light in terms of landscape. This aspect of light was explored  
even more radically in the Romans, Arabics, and Egyptians.  
The imagery in those films is far more removed from ideas of  
landscape.


Fred Camper
Chicago


Quoting Aaron Juneau aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk:



Dear frameworks members,

I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that  
somebody at Frameworks might be able to help me with some  
research I'm undertaking with regard to an article we're  
publishing in a couple issues time. Essentially the article will  
focus on J.M.W Turner's influence on film. I was wondering  
whether somebody at Frameworks could advise on some interesting,  
perhaps less known filmmakers who have been influenced by him?  
I'm really looking at hard fact and solid evidence as opposed to  
conjecture.


Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

My very best,



Aaron Juneau
Editorial Assistant
TATE ETC. magazine
20 John Islip Street
Millbank
London
SW1P 4RG
T: +44 (0)20 7821 8606
F: +44 (0)20 7887 3940
E: aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk
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Re: [Frameworks] Installation works that incorporate hand-painted film

2014-02-27 Thread Anna Scime
Hi Adam,
I'm curious, why the RFI?
I've been working on a series of 16mm spore print films since 2009/2010.  They 
are most effective when exhibited as installations and/or live performances. 
You can find them here: www.sporeprintfilms.org 
Cheers,
Anna

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On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Adam R. Levine ada...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Frameworks,
 
 This is a very specific RFI but I am looking for artists or works that check 
 as many (at least two, let's say) of the following boxes as possible, listed 
 in order of preference:
 
 1. Installations or possibly live performances...
 2. ...That incorporate abstract footage (preferably 16mm loops)
 3. Hand painted, scratch film, or hand animation
 4. Sculptural elements or constructed environments
 5. Use of text or voice
 6. Preferably by female artists or filmmakers
 
 Like I said - specific. But perhaps you can help.
 
 Many thanks,
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[Frameworks] Hitoshi Toyoda--a word to the aware

2014-02-27 Thread scott
Dear Frameworkers,Hitoshi Toyoda will be at Union Docs this Saturday (March 1) at 7:30 to present one of his wonderful slide-projector pieces. He graced Hamilton College this past week with his piece "White Moon," and will be presenting "Black Moon" on Saturday.Toyoda's performances are quiet, graceful, engaging, and deeply moving. His appearances in this country are relatively rare and there is no way to see his work other than to be with him as he presents it. In his hands and through his eyes, the slide projector (that now-antique technology) is brought back to life and the world around us reinvigorated.I envy New Yorkers this opportunity--wish I could be there.Scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Installation works that incorporate hand-painted film

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Mudie
Has anyone mentioned Lis Rhodes in London? Legendary, fantastic
spatial/temporal works.
Peter
(Perth)

Hi Adam,
I'm curious, why the RFI?
I've been working on a series of 16mm spore print films since 2009/2010.
They are most effective when exhibited as installations and/or live
performances. 
You can find them here: www.sporeprintfilms.org
Cheers,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Adam R. Levine ada...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Frameworks,
 
 This is a very specific RFI but I am looking for artists or works that
check as many (at least two, let's say) of the following boxes as
possible, listed in order of preference:
 
 1. Installations or possibly live performances...
 2. ...That incorporate abstract footage (preferably 16mm loops)
 3. Hand painted, scratch film, or hand animation
 4. Sculptural elements or constructed environments
 5. Use of text or voice
 6. Preferably by female artists or filmmakers
 
 Like I said - specific. But perhaps you can help.
 
 Many thanks,
 Adam
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Re: [Frameworks] Installation works that incorporate hand-painted film

2014-02-27 Thread Andy Ditzler
Robbie Land recently had a looping 16mm installation of his Bioluminescence
film as part of the show of Hudgens Prize finalists here in Georgia. Robbie
is on the list and perhaps can articulate it better than I, but it's close
to, really part of, the tradition of handmade film even though it's not
handmade animation per se. (The film is in two parts, exposed first by
fireflies, then by growing mushrooms/fungi.) The looping film was
accompanied by filmstrips of the same work displayed in a lighted case.

Jennifer Reeves has done looping installations of her handmade animations,
such as Light Work Mood Disorder.

In 2005 Lynn Marie Kirby did a looping installation at Eyedrum in Atlanta,
called Views from the center before and after Edison. Artist's
description:
For Eyedrum, 16mm film was exposed without a camera to the light of I-75
in Atlanta, the North-South Interstate, the path of the old Dixie Highway.
Visible in the gallery are both a film loop of the original 16mm Atlanta
exposure and that original document transformed through a performance on a
film-to-digital transfer machine. Also present in the gallery is a sound
recording of my arrival in Atlanta.  This magnetic tape recording is seen
as a physical material in space rather than heard as it unfolds in time.
The 16mm looped onto a curved screen suggestive of the Cyclorama, at the
bottom of which was the audio tape of her arrival in Atlanta, strewn from
the reel onto the floor.

Lynn described her exposure of the film on the highway as performative, so
both performance and installation are involved here. If you count as text
the artist's statement, which was posted with the piece (or if you consider
the presence of spoken words on the audio tape - even if it can't be heard
because the tape is unspooled); and if you include a by-hand, cameraless
film exposure in your criteria for item #3, then if I'm not mistaken Lynn's
installation hits *all six* items on your list. Hooray!

Andy Ditzler
www.filmlove.org
www.johnq.org
Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University

Film Love presents classics of the Czechoslovak New Wave
February 28 - March 4, 2014
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Adam R. Levine ada...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Frameworks,

 This is a very specific RFI but I am looking for artists or works that
 check as many (at least two, let's say) of the following boxes as possible,
 listed in order of preference:

 1. Installations or possibly live performances...
 2. ...That incorporate abstract footage (preferably 16mm loops)
 3. Hand painted, scratch film, or hand animation
 4. Sculptural elements or constructed environments
 5. Use of text or voice
 6. Preferably by female artists or filmmakers

 Like I said - specific. But perhaps you can help.

 Many thanks,
 Adam

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