Re: [Frameworks] Experimental shorts with science-fiction themes?
some ideas Ed Emshwiller- various films Chris Marker-La Jette George Lucas -The Electronic Labyrinth -Thx 1138 Jordan Belson- Various films 2015-01-14 11:57 GMT-04:00 Esperanza Collado esperanzacolla...@gmail.com: Maximilian Le Cain's AREAS OF SYMPHATHY is a 40 mins experimental film (VHS) that features sci-fi footage very explicitely. It's a great work! On Wednesday, January 14, 2015, Kelly Gallagher ke...@purpleriot.com wrote: Animator Kim Collmer makes cool sci-fi-ish animations! https://vimeo.com/user4029127/videos 3 that come to mind- mercury moon / silver seeds / stars of the lid best! Kelly On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.com wrote: I made this here found-footage piece, constructed from episodes of The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and Star Trek [TOS]. http://www.dr-yo.com/video_lullabye_hfr.html Regards, Aaron At 1/11/2015, you wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for recommendations for experimental film and animated works that have science-fiction/visionary themes, both overt (like La Jetee or Tribulation 99) and subtle (maybe more along the lines of Christopher MacLaine's The End or These Hammers Don't Hurt Us by Michael Robinson). Thank you! Gina ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5. webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Esperanza Collado - - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.esperanzacollado.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] The New England Home Movie Tour - -this winter
Hi all -- Thanks to everyone that responded to this post about a Denver venue. We're all set. We'll be showing the program on Saturday, 1/31 at Glob in Denver. Here's a link to all other confirmed dates. for the tour: http://www.newenglandhomemovietour.com/tourdates/ -- Warren On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: HI Frameworkers... Unfortunately, I received news from Tim Roberts that Counterpath Press in Denver has to relocate their space and had to cancel a few events including the touring program http://www.newenglandhomemovietour.com/ we were supposed to share out there on 1/31. I've been working with Kelly Sears on finding a new venue -- Tim suggested Glob, but so far they've been unresponsive. We are pretty flexible around that Denver date (1/31) and could share this program with the Mile-High folks on 1/30, 1/31, 2/1 or 2/2. If anyone in the Denver/Boulder area wold like to help us relocate this program please email me off-list. thanks, Warren p.s. - Link to information about the tour http://www.newenglandhomemovietour.com/ The New England Home Movie Tour features handmade and homemade poetic film works from the northeast that celebrate the tactility and intimacy of celluloid-based moving images. As the commercial film industry forces us to embrace digital moving images and the planned obsolescence of the means to produce and distribute those products, this film tour aims to share films that embrace the contemporary DIY strategies, politics, and aesthetics of an enduring, artisanal, and personal approach to filmmaking. This traveling program carries with it more than 30 16mm works and 180 35mm slides that will ensure a uniquely arranged program at each stop along its way. With works by Luther Price, Jodie Mack, Robert Todd, Jonathan Schwartz, Jo Dery, Warren Cockerham, and Colin Brant. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all.. Sorry I missed This Week... (again). I wanted to let you all know about a film program I'm touring for the next month or so. Here's a little description: The New England Home Movie Tour features handmade and homemade poetic film works from the northeast that celebrate the tactility and intimacy of celluloid-based moving images. As the commercial film industry forces us to embrace digital moving images and the planned obsolescence of the means to produce and distribute those products, this film tour aims to share films that embrace the contemporary DIY strategies, politics, and aesthetics of an enduring, artisanal, and personal approach to filmmaking. This traveling program carries with it more than 30 16mm works and 180 35mm slides that will ensure a uniquely arranged program at each stop along its way. With works by Luther Price, Jodie Mack, Robert Todd, Jonathan Schwartz, Jo Dery, Warren Cockerham, and Colin Brant. there's more info on the website/blog: http://www.newenglandhomemovietour.com/ If you're in these cities, come check it out. We just kicked off in Gainesville, FL last Thursday. Atlanta's next... 1/8/15 Gainesville, FL… The Wooly 1/16/15 Atlanta, GA… Eye Drum 1/18/15 Jackson, MS… The Mosquito at The North Midtown Arts Center 1/19/15 Natchitoches, LA … Northwestern State University 1/20/15 Shreveport, LA … Minicine 1/21/15 Denton, TX … University of North Texas 1/22/15 Richardson, TX … University of Texas at Dallas 1/23/15 Denton, TX … JJs on the Square 1/26/15 Austin, TX … grayDuck Gallery - Experimental Response Cinema 1/27/15 Marfa, TX … Marfa Book Company/ Lumberyard 1/31/15 Denver, CO … Counterpath Press - venue changing/TBD 2/4/15 Iowa City, IA … Public Space One - Headroom 2/5/15 Milwaukee, WI … Microlights 2/6/15 Chicago, IL … The Nightingale Cinema 2/7/15 Columbus, OH ... Skylab 2/8/15 Rochester, NY … Visual Studies Workshop 2/21/15 Brattleboro, VT … Center for Digital Art/TBD 2/25/15 Bennington, VT … Kinoteca at Bennington College hope to see you soon.. Warren ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] HIGH SCHOOL workflow
Hi all, Does anyone have any information on the workflow used for Frederick Wiseman's HIGH SCHOOL? Specifically interested in whether it was shot on negative or reversal, and whether release prints would have been made from an internegative or directly from AB rolls. I projected what I thought was a very good 16mm print of the film for a class screening and one of the students commented that it looked so much worse than a Brakhage short (Window Water Baby Moving) we ran on Blu-Ray, so I'm trying to offer a better explanation to the instructor than oh, it's 16mm. The print I ran was recently struck, a little soft, a little light contrast, but certainly not objectionable, and projected under the best possible circumstances - I don't think it came close to being called a bad print. Since this WAS a recently struck print, I wonder if anyone can comment on what the original prints looked like, or what 35mm blowup prints looked like. Of course, nobody says anything when they're shown 16mm at its best, but there you have it Any input welcome! Julian -- Julian Antos Northwest Chicago Film Society www.northwestchicagofilmsociety.org 773 827 8991 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] HIGH SCHOOL workflow
Julian: Shot by Dick Lieterman.. BW neg, quite clearly, probably Kodak Double-X. The prints would have suffered generation loss because BW neg would go to a master positive, then a dupe neg, then a print. DuArt was Wiseman’s usual lab, but don’t know who would have made newer prints. I don’t think it was ever blown up to 35mm. Ask Fred. BW reversal saves a geeration, going to an interneg and then a print. Of course these days one would scan it and do a film out to a neg — saves a generation if you are shooting negative. Best, Jeff Kreines Kinetta On Jan 14, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Julian Antos jul...@northwestchicagofilmsociety.org wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have any information on the workflow used for Frederick Wiseman's HIGH SCHOOL? Specifically interested in whether it was shot on negative or reversal, and whether release prints would have been made from an internegative or directly from AB rolls. I projected what I thought was a very good 16mm print of the film for a class screening and one of the students commented that it looked so much worse than a Brakhage short (Window Water Baby Moving) we ran on Blu-Ray, so I'm trying to offer a better explanation to the instructor than oh, it's 16mm. The print I ran was recently struck, a little soft, a little light contrast, but certainly not objectionable, and projected under the best possible circumstances - I don't think it came close to being called a bad print. Since this WAS a recently struck print, I wonder if anyone can comment on what the original prints looked like, or what 35mm blowup prints looked like. Of course, nobody says anything when they're shown 16mm at its best, but there you have it Any input welcome! Julian -- Julian Antos Northwest Chicago Film Society www.northwestchicagofilmsociety.org http://www.northwestchicagofilmsociety.org/ 773 827 8991 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Experimental shorts with science-fiction themes?
Animator Kim Collmer makes cool sci-fi-ish animations! https://vimeo.com/user4029127/videos 3 that come to mind- mercury moon / silver seeds / stars of the lid best! Kelly On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.com wrote: I made this here found-footage piece, constructed from episodes of The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and Star Trek [TOS]. http://www.dr-yo.com/video_lullabye_hfr.html Regards, Aaron At 1/11/2015, you wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for recommendations for experimental film and animated works that have science-fiction/visionary themes, both overt (like La Jetee or Tribulation 99) and subtle (maybe more along the lines of Christopher MacLaine's The End or These Hammers Don't Hurt Us by Michael Robinson). Thank you! Gina ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5. webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] HIGH SCHOOL workflow
Jeff: BW neg, quite clearly, probably Kodak Double-X Would they have pushed the stock? My impression has always been that Direct Cinema first generation looked pretty crappy to begin with because they were getting a lot of grain and getting grayer blacks etc, to shoot with available light. What were the typical doco original stocks at MIT back in the day? What did you guys use for Seventeen? Were you pushing? I don't remember, does reversal have any advantage over negative in terms of dust etc. that would come up reloading 400 ft. mags in a hurry in the field inside a changing bag? (I only ever shot reversal myself...) ' IDK what the camera original of 'Window Water' would have been (Kodachrome?), but I'm sure it was slow, tight-grained, deep blacks, etc. As I'm old enough to go back to the VNF stocks, I remember the world of difference between 7240 and 7250, and just how blah the image became to get that extra speed you needed to shoot doco with a 12-120 without bringing in a shit ton of lights. ... The OP reminds me of the old Film/Video debates on FRAMEWORKS, to which I always objected that neither were one thing (though NTSC was pretty blah no matter what). What is 'film'? 35mm, 16mm, 8mm? What is 16mm? Kodachrome? ECO? 7250? What's the print stock? How's the print? nobody says anything when they're shown 16mm at its best Maybe because that almost never happens. It's hard for me to recall seeing a fresh 16mm print of a good film and NOT being blown away. I still remember renting The End from FMC in '83-'84 to show in colloquium at Temple, and getting a very recent print that must have been the result of J.J. Murphy's restoration/revival efforts for Maclaine. There was no visible wear or fading of any kind on the print, and it was absolutely STUNNING. When I rented the same film to show my class in '02 (or so) it was such a let down, washed out, scratched, bad splices that jumped out of the gate. I was always telling the students 'No, it's not supposed to look like this! It's really beautiful. Trust me! ...Just...imagine!. Didn't have Blu-Ray then, but when I screened 'Garden of Earthly Delights' from the DVD with our 3-chip DLP it looked much better than any of the vast majority of prints I got from FMC or Canyon. HERESY! Yes, I screened 'Mothlight' from DVD too! So I couldn't take the print out of the can and have them look at the individual frames, yada yada yada, and yes that would have been nice, but in terms of the scope of the course the benefit would have been nowhere near justifying the resource allocation. Anyway, the points are A. A Blu-Ray of WWBM SHOULD look better than a fresh print of High School because the camera original stocks are apples and oranges. B. A Blu-Ray of WWBM SHOULD look better than circulation print of WWBM because it's hasn't been through the not quite clean gate of a cranky Bell and Howell Autoload a dozen or so times. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Experimental shorts with science-fiction themes?
Maximilian Le Cain's AREAS OF SYMPHATHY is a 40 mins experimental film (VHS) that features sci-fi footage very explicitely. It's a great work! On Wednesday, January 14, 2015, Kelly Gallagher ke...@purpleriot.com wrote: Animator Kim Collmer makes cool sci-fi-ish animations! https://vimeo.com/user4029127/videos 3 that come to mind- mercury moon / silver seeds / stars of the lid best! Kelly On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aa...@digitalartsguild.com'); wrote: I made this here found-footage piece, constructed from episodes of The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and Star Trek [TOS]. http://www.dr-yo.com/video_lullabye_hfr.html Regards, Aaron At 1/11/2015, you wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for recommendations for experimental film and animated works that have science-fiction/visionary themes, both overt (like La Jetee or Tribulation 99) and subtle (maybe more along the lines of Christopher MacLaine's The End or These Hammers Don't Hurt Us by Michael Robinson). Thank you! Gina ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com'); https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com'); https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Esperanza Collado - - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.esperanzacollado.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
