Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza]

I would certainly add Marie Menken to this names.  It is so important nowadays 
in the world of selfies and Go-Pro footage we find in the web.


Jorge L.



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I AM a feminist, and 
here are three essential films, that answer the question











'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first 
foray into the Moving Image Realm ?' 

Maya Deren  
Meshes of the Afternoon


Mary Ellen Bute

Polka Graph


Shirley Clarke 

Bridges Go-Round



Owen's iphone




On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:





no no only white men make important work 



why is a very old work of a woman the only woman filmmaker being hailed here




peggy ahwesh anyone? https://vimeo.com/user2889626




and there are tons of euro ones fuck do we need a comprehensive list of woman 
filmmakers posted somewhere on the net to point to when this shit happens? 
wikipedia?




i am no feminist but this seems really bad



On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Kim Knowles kim.know...@edfilmfest.org.uk 
wrote:




The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women filmmakers are 
written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as per Vicky Smith's 
post)




 
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Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show 
Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ? 
 



Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it is to 
start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and select 
exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage), minimalist 
(Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I include 
Brakhage’s lens-captured films in the problematic “abstract. 










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Dear Frameworkers:




I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí 

(that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group) 




Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I will show

them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists' moving 
image works

as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations

into the realm of the moving image




I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during these 
workshops 

and I would appreciate responses to the question:

'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists 

on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'




I look forward to hearing any suggestions




Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)


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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Dennis Doros]

There are no three possible to represent the entire world of experimental
film.

But for women, you might want to start with Suspense by Lois Weber and
Philip Smalley. It's extremely experimental for the year it was made.

And with Shirley Clarke, having seen all of them now about two dozen times
each over the past six years, I know that BRIDGES-GO-ROUND is everybody's
favorite but I would say MOMENT IN LOVE is mine. Seeing her outtakes and
notebooks, it's the one she worked the hardest to create and I love the
work of choreographer Anna Sokolow. Also, we are just starting to show D.
A. Pennebaker and Shirley Clarke's BRUSSELS LOOP films (there were also
four or five other filmmakers involved) and they are really incredible up
on the screen.

But especially for artists, it's almost impossible not to include the best
of experimental film without my favorite, which is BEGONE DULL CARE by
Norman McLaren (and Evelyn Lambert) and it's tough to show him without the
best of Len Lye.

Also in mind with artists, and for more collaborations between man and a
woman, you can't really go wrong with Alexeieff and Parker pin animation.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film  Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers:

 I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

 Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
 will show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
 moving image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

 I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during these
 workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

 I look forward to hearing any suggestions

 Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
 --
 Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
 www.anupictures.com


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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Elizabeth McMahon]

RIP Cecile Starr. She championed so many experimental filmmakers,
especially those who were women, and yes, it, gender, it is an important
distinction. Few would know about Mary Ellen Bute (and Ted Nemeth), or
(Alexander Alexeieff and) Claire Parker (or Starr and her husband, recently
newly widowed husband, partner is celluloid crime Aram Boyajian) who, without
her intense and incisive scholarship, advocacy, and distribution of
experimental, avant garde, and animation of each type, we would all be so
diminished in our understanding of film history.  Dennis is right about
McClaren as so brilliant as to be included in the top of essentials, but I
won't play this silly 3 films limit nonsense. All you need is the
filmography from Anthology Film Archives ongoing, infamous Essential
CInema series, a stalwart primer in basic film knowledge, to know what to
program for your students or friends. Gary Handman, nee of UCLA, happily
retired albeit available if you seek him out, is a librarian after just
about everyone's heart, his syllabi in film studies over the years he
worked and taught are essential, too, if what to see and know about in film
history and studies. Perfect distillations with no BS.

But, yeah, for each of the 3 chosen, I would program McLaren. Neigbours
and Spook Sport are my two faves. Geez, Oskar Fischinger is my favorite,
anything just anything, and good golly, Lotte Reineger, anyone? See, I
succumbed and fell in to this nonsense. This is just absurd.

Elizabeth

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are no three possible to represent the entire world of experimental
 film.

 But for women, you might want to start with Suspense by Lois Weber and
 Philip Smalley. It's extremely experimental for the year it was made.

 And with Shirley Clarke, having seen all of them now about two dozen times
 each over the past six years, I know that BRIDGES-GO-ROUND is everybody's
 favorite but I would say MOMENT IN LOVE is mine. Seeing her outtakes and
 notebooks, it's the one she worked the hardest to create and I love the
 work of choreographer Anna Sokolow. Also, we are just starting to show D.
 A. Pennebaker and Shirley Clarke's BRUSSELS LOOP films (there were also
 four or five other filmmakers involved) and they are really incredible up
 on the screen.

 But especially for artists, it's almost impossible not to include the best
 of experimental film without my favorite, which is BEGONE DULL CARE by
 Norman McLaren (and Evelyn Lambert) and it's tough to show him without the
 best of Len Lye.

 Also in mind with artists, and for more collaborations between man and a
 woman, you can't really go wrong with Alexeieff and Parker pin animation.


 Best regards,
 Dennis Doros
 Milestone Film  Video
 PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com

 Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
 Visit our new websites!  www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com,
 www.shirleyclarkefilms.com,
 To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click here
 http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2014MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?75
 !


 Support Milestone Film on Facebook
 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter
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 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers:

 I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

 Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
 will show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
 moving image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

 I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during
 these workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

 I look forward to hearing any suggestions

 Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
 --
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 www.anupictures.com


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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking source for this quote:

[Ed Inman]

A google search attributes it toPaul Auster.The Book of Illusions, a novel. New York: Picador, 2002. p. 14. http://3stages.org/c/gq.cgi?first=QAMOVIES-Original Message-
From: Francisco Torres 
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I bet it was not Andre Bazin ;)2015-03-28 14:21 GMT-04:00 Ken Paul Rosenthal kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com:


“The closer movies
  come to representing reality, the worse they fail at representing
  the world.”I think it's by Alexander Kluge, but not certain.Thanks! Kenwww.kenpaulrosenthal.comwww.whisperrapture.comwww.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com 		 	   		  
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[Frameworks] animation cut out

[jaime cleeland]

you can downloadhttps://archive.org/details/ZombieBangor
Jaime

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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking source for this quote:

[nicky . hamlyn]

 Jean Renoir said the same thing in different words in 1961 here: 
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jean+renoir+parle+de+son+art

Nicky.

 

 

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“The closer movies  come to representing reality, the worse they 
fail at representing  the world.”

I think it's by Alexander Kluge, but not certain.

Thanks! Ken

www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
www.whisperrapture.com

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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Kim Knowles]

?The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women filmmakers are 
written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as per Vicky Smith's 
post)


From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of Gene 
Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
To: Frameworks Listserv
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show 
Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it is to 
start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and select 
exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage), minimalist 
(Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I include 
Brakhage's lens-captured films in the problematic abstract.



On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair 
donalo...@gmail.commailto:donalo...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Frameworkers:

I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
(that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I will show
them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists' moving 
image works
as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
into the realm of the moving image

I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during these 
workshops
and I would appreciate responses to the question:
'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

I look forward to hearing any suggestions

Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
--
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www.anupictures.comhttp://www.anupictures.com/

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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Cari Machet]

no no only white men make important work

why is a very old work of a woman the only woman filmmaker being hailed here

peggy ahwesh anyone? https://vimeo.com/user2889626

and there are tons of euro ones fuck do we need a comprehensive list of
woman filmmakers posted somewhere on the net to point to when this shit
happens? wikipedia?

i am no feminist but this seems really bad

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wrote:

  The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women
 filmmakers are written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as
 per Vicky Smith's post)
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 Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
 *To:* Frameworks Listserv
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would
 show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

  Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it is
 to start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and
 select exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage),
 minimalist (Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I
 include Brakhage's lens-captured films in the problematic abstract.



  On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Frameworkers:

  I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

  Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
 will show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
 moving image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

  I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during
 these workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

  I look forward to hearing any suggestions

  Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
  --
  Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Bernard Roddy]

The only print I showed was Serene Velocity by Gehr, but I used a
Sharits DVD and a DVD of FLUXUS work to get the early bottoms film by
Yoko Ono (Gehr and Ono being discussed in the MacDonald).

I also tried to include an orientation toward film and video that drew
its inspiration from the manipulation of mass media.  The text I used
for this was in the Video Vortex Reader (#4) and mentions Ian
Breakwell's diary for broadcast (as well as a stunt by Chris Burden).

But my great discovery fell under the underground heading, where it
made sense to be talking about the use of actors and the thinking
about rehearsals (think of Kuchar's I a Woman).  Check out Franz
Zwartjes, out of the Netherlands.

Bernie

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:36 AM,  nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:
 I showed Wavelength yesterday to first year Fine Art students. It's  a very
 tough introduction to a/g film, a real plunge into the deep end. It really
 annoys and baffles some, but enthuses others, but it always stimulates
 debate in a way that few other films can. For these reasons and others, it's
 essential,

 Nicky.



 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Mudie peter.mu...@uwa.edu.au
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 Sent: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 2:38
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
 Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

 Wavelength (Snow, 1967); Zorns Lemma (Frampton, 1970); Arnulf Rainer
 (Kubelka, 1960) - in that order.
 Peter
 (Perth)

 On 28/03/2015 9:47 am, Bernard Roddy rodd...@yahoo.com wrote:

I taught an introductory course in which I framed things under the
terms underground, avant-garde, studio-art video, video as
technology, documentary, and a concluding section called film
culture (histories of organizing, concluding with Cashmere's Incite
issue devoted to exhibition).

1. For underground we get Amos Vogel and are allowed relatively populist
clips.
2. For avant-garde we get Scott MacDonald and the classics of his
early text, Avant-Garde Film (which is really useful to keep us in the
history game, since there's that initial link in MacDonald to the
split identified in Kracauer's Theory of Film, the formative and the
realist tendencies).
3. For studio-art video we get Catherine Elwes, who can position body-
and gender-oriented video nicely into a context with Paik.
4. For video as technology we get Yvonne Spielmann, who has a notion
of experimental with respect to video that is about signals, not
frames or even images.  This is essential to talk about Steina.
5. For documentary we have a chapter from Renov and a chapter from
Marks.  Renov can get us Saddie Benning.
6. I found the film culture to be the most useful for introducting
the Austrian work, like Kren's.  Hans Scheugle's text in
Tscherkassky's volume ensures that we have some context for the
expanded of cinema art.

Bernie

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wrote:
 Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it
is to
 start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and
select
 exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage),
minimalist
 (Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I include
 Brakhage¹s lens-captured films in the problematic ³abstract.



 On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers:

 I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

 Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
will
 show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
moving
 image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial
explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

 I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during
these
 workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

 I look forward to hearing any suggestions

 Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
 --
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Events are sorted alphabetically BY CITY within each DATE.

This week's programs (summary):
* Essential Cinema: L'age D'or (#anchor1) [March 28, New York, New York]
* Paul Sharits Program 2 (#anchor2) [March 28, New York, New York]
* Cyrus Tabar + Schedelbauer + Baldwin + (#anchor3) [March 28, San Francisco, 
California]
* Ornette: Made In America (#anchor4) [March 29, Cambridge, Massachusetts]
* Paul Sharits Program 3 (#anchor5) [March 29, New York, New York]
* Paul Sharits Program 4 (#anchor6) [March 29, New York, New York]
* Film: English Language Version of Guy Debord's In Girim Imus Nocte Et 
Consumimir Igni (#anchor7) [March 29, Oakland, California 94609]
* Films of Place By Ute Aurand - Filmmaker In Person (#anchor8) [March 30, 
Cambridge, Massachusetts]
* Transforming Spaces: New Films From L.A. Filmmakers (#anchor9) [March 30, Los 
Angeles, California]
* Nathaniel Dorsky On Stan Brakhage Part ii (#anchor10) [March 30, San 
Francisco, California 94103]
* Edward Owens: Private Imaginings and Narrative Facts | Facebook (#anchor11) 
[March 31, Brooklyn, New York 11222]
* Magmart Festival ix Edition Is Start! (#anchor12) [March 31, Naples, Italy]
* Flaherty Nyc: the Motherhood Archives Program (#anchor13) [March 31, New 
York, New York]
* 18:00 (#anchor14) [April 2, Chicago, Illinois]
* Show  Tell: Wojciech Bakowski (#anchor15) [April 2, New York, New York]
* Paul Clipson Programme I (#anchor16) [April 3, Hong Kong]
* Re-Visions: American Experimental Film 1975-80: Joe Gibbons Program 1 
(#anchor17) [April 3, New York, New York]
* Fantasmas CromÁTicos- the Films of Claudio Caldini (#anchor18) [April 3, 
Toronto, Ontario, Canada]
* Paul Clipson Programme ii (#anchor19) [April 4, Hong Kong]
* Re-Visions: American Experimental Film 1975-80: Joe Gibbons Program 2 
(#anchor20) [April 4, New York, New York]
* Gillooly's Suitcase of Love and Shame + Rhody (#anchor21) [April 4, San 
Francisco, California]
* Re-Visions: American Experimental Film 1975-80: Joe Gibbons Program 3 
(#anchor22) [April 5, New York, New York]
* Re-Visions: American Experimental Film 1975-80: Joe Gibbons Program 4 
(#anchor23) [April 5, New York, New York]

SATURDAY, MARCH 28, 2015

3/28
New York, New York: Anthology Film Archives

Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[o...@thenowcorporation.com]

I AM a feminist, and 
here are three essential films, that answer the question
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first 
 foray into the Moving Image Realm ?' 
Maya Deren  
Meshes of the Afternoon
Mary Ellen Bute
Polka Graph
Shirley Clarke 
Bridges Go-Round

Owen's iphone


 On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 no no only white men make important work 
 
 why is a very old work of a woman the only woman filmmaker being hailed here
 
 peggy ahwesh anyone? https://vimeo.com/user2889626
 
 and there are tons of euro ones fuck do we need a comprehensive list of woman 
 filmmakers posted somewhere on the net to point to when this shit happens? 
 wikipedia?
 
 i am no feminist but this seems really bad
 
 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Kim Knowles kim.know...@edfilmfest.org.uk 
 wrote:
 The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women filmmakers 
 are written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as per Vicky 
 Smith's post)
  
 From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of Gene 
 Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
 To: Frameworks Listserv
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show 
 Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
  
 Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it is to 
 start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and select 
 exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage), minimalist 
 (Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I include 
 Brakhage’s lens-captured films in the problematic “abstract.
 
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Dear Frameworkers:
 
 I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí 
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group) 
 
 Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I will 
 show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists' moving 
 image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
 into the realm of the moving image
 
 I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during these 
 workshops 
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists 
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'
 
 I look forward to hearing any suggestions
 
 Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
 -- 
 Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
 www.anupictures.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Bernard Roddy]

You can get a canon of women, no problem.  I would list early Su Friedrich.

But I wouldn't want to be raised as a potential name for a list because of
my gender.

As it happened, in the class I taught I found myself watching Norman
McLaren next to Joanna Quinn's Girls' Night Out.  The comparison made
less sense than a comparison with early video on the Experimental
Television Center's collection, which is also abstract.  Want to look for a
woman on those discs?  No problem.  But I thought the comparison was
interesting because of differences between forms of abstraction, one made
on strips, the other made using signal.

Bernie





On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

 no no only white men make important work

 why is a very old work of a woman the only woman filmmaker being hailed
 here

 peggy ahwesh anyone? https://vimeo.com/user2889626

 and there are tons of euro ones fuck do we need a comprehensive list of
 woman filmmakers posted somewhere on the net to point to when this shit
 happens? wikipedia?

 i am no feminist but this seems really bad

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Kim Knowles 
 kim.know...@edfilmfest.org.uk wrote:

  The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women
 filmmakers are written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as
 per Vicky Smith's post)
  --
 *From:* FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of
 Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
 *To:* Frameworks Listserv
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you
 would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

  Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it
 is to start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and
 select exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage),
 minimalist (Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I
 include Brakhage’s lens-captured films in the problematic “abstract.



  On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Frameworkers:

  I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

  Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
 will show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
 moving image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

  I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during
 these workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

  I look forward to hearing any suggestions

  Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
  --
  Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
 www.anupictures.com

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[Frameworks] Antony Balch / Bill Tony

[Dietmar Schwärzler | sixpackfilm]

Hello

Does anybody know, where I could get a print (analog or digital) of Bill 
Tony (1972) by Antony Balch? Balch did that film in collaboration with
William Burroughs.

I have been in contact with Lux, BFI and Raro Video (US; they released a
DVD) but without success.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Best, Dietmar


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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Beebe, Roger W.]

In a talk I heard P. Adams Sitney give in Berlin a few years ago, it sounded 
like he was doing some revisionist history to credit Marie Menken’s “Arabesque 
for Kenneth Anger” with being the film that broke from the psychodrama 
tradition.  If that’s the case—and why not?—then that seems a MAJOR mile marker 
of a-g film history.

(Still not going to pretend it makes any sense to name just 3 films.)
Roger

On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:22 AM, 
o...@thenowcorporation.commailto:o...@thenowcorporation.com wrote:

I AM a feminist, and
here are three essential films, that answer the question
'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first 
foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'
Maya Deren
Meshes of the Afternoon
Mary Ellen Bute
Polka Graph
Shirley Clarke
Bridges Go-Round

Owen's iphone


On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Cari Machet 
carimac...@gmail.commailto:carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

no no only white men make important work

why is a very old work of a woman the only woman filmmaker being hailed here

peggy ahwesh anyone? https://vimeo.com/user2889626

and there are tons of euro ones fuck do we need a comprehensive list of woman 
filmmakers posted somewhere on the net to point to when this shit happens? 
wikipedia?

i am no feminist but this seems really bad


On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Kim Knowles 
kim.know...@edfilmfest.org.ukmailto:kim.know...@edfilmfest.org.uk wrote:

The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women filmmakers are 
written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as per Vicky Smith's 
post)


From: FrameWorks 
frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com
 on behalf of Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.netmailto:ato...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
To: Frameworks Listserv
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show 
Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it is to 
start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and select 
exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage), minimalist 
(Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I include 
Brakhage’s lens-captured films in the problematic “abstract.



On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair 
donalo...@gmail.commailto:donalo...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Frameworkers:

I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
(that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I will show
them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists' moving 
image works
as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
into the realm of the moving image

I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during these 
workshops
and I would appreciate responses to the question:
'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

I look forward to hearing any suggestions

Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
--
Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
www.anupictures.comhttp://www.anupictures.com/

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[Frameworks] Seeking source for this quote:

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

“The closer movies
  come to representing reality, the worse they fail at representing
  the world.”

I think it's by Alexander Kluge, but not certain.

Thanks! Ken

www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
www.whisperrapture.com
www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com 
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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[Francisco Torres]

3 films could be he first, middle and last of a 99 film list. At least 99
are needed. Shame on me for not including Kubelka in my previous post.
PS-
Something i find strange-Most people here do not mention anything pre
1950...

2015-03-28 13:50 GMT-04:00 Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu:

  In a talk I heard P. Adams Sitney give in Berlin a few years ago, it
 sounded like he was doing some revisionist history to credit Marie Menken’s
 “Arabesque for Kenneth Anger” with being the film that broke from the
 psychodrama tradition.  If that’s the case—and why not?—then that seems a
 MAJOR mile marker of a-g film history.

  (Still not going to pretend it makes any sense to name just 3 films.)
 Roger

   On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:22 AM, o...@thenowcorporation.com wrote:

  I AM a feminist, and
 here are three essential films, that answer the question

 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their
 first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

 Maya Deren   *Meshes of the Afternoon*
 * Mary Ellen Bute Polka Graph *

 * Shirley Clarke  Bridges Go-Round *
 Owen's iphone


 On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

  no no only white men make important work

  why is a very old work of a woman the only woman filmmaker being hailed
 here

  peggy ahwesh anyone? https://vimeo.com/user2889626

  and there are tons of euro ones fuck do we need a comprehensive list of
 woman filmmakers posted somewhere on the net to point to when this shit
 happens? wikipedia?

  i am no feminist but this seems really bad

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Kim Knowles 
 kim.know...@edfilmfest.org.uk wrote:

  The problem with this list, as is often the case, is that women
 filmmakers are written out of the 'canon'. Please include Maya Deren! (as
 per Vicky Smith's post)
  --
 *From:* FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of
 Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 6:56 PM
 *To:* Frameworks Listserv
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you
 would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

   Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it
 is to start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and
 select exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage),
 minimalist (Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I
 include Brakhage’s lens-captured films in the problematic “abstract.



  On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Frameworkers:

  I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

  Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
 will show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
 moving image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

  I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during
 these workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

  I look forward to hearing any suggestions

  Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
  --
  Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
 www.anupictures.com

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Re: [Frameworks] Antony Balch / Bill Tony

[Francisco Torres]

http://www.ubu.com/film/burroughs_bill.html

2015-03-28 13:29 GMT-04:00 Dietmar Schwärzler | sixpackfilm 
diet...@sixpackfilm.com:

 Hello

 Does anybody know, where I could get a print (analog or digital) of Bill 
 Tony (1972) by Antony Balch? Balch did that film in collaboration with
 William Burroughs.

 I have been in contact with Lux, BFI and Raro Video (US; they released a
 DVD) but without success.
 Any help would be much appreciated.

 Best, Dietmar


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 sixpackfilm
 +43-1-5260990-15
 diet...@sixpackfilm.com

 Neubaugasse 45
 A-1070 Vienna / Austria

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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking source for this quote:

[Francisco Torres]

I bet it was not Andre Bazin ;)

2015-03-28 14:21 GMT-04:00 Ken Paul Rosenthal kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com
:

 “The closer movies come to representing reality, the worse they fail at
 representing the world.”

 I think it's by Alexander Kluge, but not certain.

 Thanks! Ken

 http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.comwww.kenpaulrosenthal.com
 www.whisperrapture.com
 www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com

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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking source for this quote:

[todd eacrett]

Paul Auster in The Book of Illusions

Too much given, I felt, not enough was left to the viewer's
imagination, and the paradox was that the closer movies came to
simulating reality, the worse they failed at representing the world --
which is in us as much as it is around us.

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 11:21:09 -0700, Ken Paul Rosenthal  wrote:

  “The closer movies come to representing reality, the worse
they fail at representing the world.”

I think it's by Alexander Kluge, but not certain.

Thanks! Ken

www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
www.whisperrapture.com
www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com

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Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

[nicky . hamlyn]

I showed Wavelength yesterday to first year Fine Art students. It's  a very 
tough introduction to a/g film, a real plunge into the deep end. It really 
annoys and baffles some, but enthuses others, but it always stimulates debate 
in a way that few other films can. For these reasons and others, it's essential,

Nicky. 
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Mudie peter.mu...@uwa.edu.au
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Sent: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 2:38
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show 
Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?


Wavelength (Snow, 1967); Zorns Lemma (Frampton, 1970); Arnulf Rainer
(Kubelka, 1960) - in that order.
Peter
(Perth)

On 28/03/2015 9:47 am, Bernard Roddy rodd...@yahoo.com wrote:

I taught an introductory course in which I framed things under the
terms underground, avant-garde, studio-art video, video as
technology, documentary, and a concluding section called film
culture (histories of organizing, concluding with Cashmere's Incite
issue devoted to exhibition).

1. For underground we get Amos Vogel and are allowed relatively populist
clips.
2. For avant-garde we get Scott MacDonald and the classics of his
early text, Avant-Garde Film (which is really useful to keep us in the
history game, since there's that initial link in MacDonald to the
split identified in Kracauer's Theory of Film, the formative and the
realist tendencies).
3. For studio-art video we get Catherine Elwes, who can position body-
and gender-oriented video nicely into a context with Paik.
4. For video as technology we get Yvonne Spielmann, who has a notion
of experimental with respect to video that is about signals, not
frames or even images.  This is essential to talk about Steina.
5. For documentary we have a chapter from Renov and a chapter from
Marks.  Renov can get us Saddie Benning.
6. I found the film culture to be the most useful for introducting
the Austrian work, like Kren's.  Hans Scheugle's text in
Tscherkassky's volume ensures that we have some context for the
expanded of cinema art.

Bernie

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
wrote:
 Three is a severe limitation, but if you insist, one way to get at it
is to
 start not with films but with major traditions since mid-century and
select
 exemplary works within them. So for example abstract (Brakhage),
minimalist
 (Warhol, Wavelength), essayistic (Marker, Farocki, Forgacs). I include
 Brakhage¹s lens-captured films in the problematic ³abstract.



 On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Donal OCeilleachair donalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers:

 I am working on a new film project with the Ealaíontóirí Mhuscraí
 (that's Irish for the Muskerry Region Artists Group)

 Part of the project will involve film / video making workshops where I
will
 show
 them works from experimental film, creative documentary and artists'
moving
 image works
 as a point of reference and inspiration for their own initial
explorations
 into the realm of the moving image

 I am compiling a short-list of 'Essential' works to show them during
these
 workshops
 and I would appreciate responses to the question:
 'What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists
 on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?'

 I look forward to hearing any suggestions

 Le míle buíochas (with many thanks)
 --
 Dónal Ó'Céilleachair
 www.anupictures.com

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