[Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
Super 8 Sound in Burbank, CA sells *new* battery packs for the Beaulieu 4008. Hopefully, it will work for the 4008ZM4. If not, I imagine they'd have a solution. Ask for Phil. Here's the link: http://www.pro8mm.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=01Product_Code=ACC_POWERKIT1Category_Code=accessories Also, not terribly long ago, around the turn of the century, the Widescreen Centre in London made new belt battery packs for super 8 Beaulieu cameras. However I just did a search on their (rather ungainly) website and could find nothing. You might wish to write to them. Ken www.kenpaulrosenthal.com www.whisperrapture.com www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
A new battery is no less than $200 USD. Plus you might Need a new charger. JL Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com wrote: Super 8 Sound in Burbank, CA sells *new* battery packs for the Beaulieu 4008. Hopefully, it will work for the 4008ZM4. If not, I imagine they'd have a solution. Ask for Phil. Here's the link: http://www.pro8mm.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=01Product_Code=ACC_POWERKIT1Category_Code=accessories Also, not terribly long ago, around the turn of the century, the Widescreen Centre in London made new belt battery packs for super 8 Beaulieu cameras. However I just did a search on their (rather ungainly) website and could find nothing. You might wish to write to them. Ken www.kenpaulrosenthal.com www.whisperrapture.com www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Experiments in Cinema wraps up it's 10th anniversary festival!
Hi everyone - man, we had a swell 10th anniversary last week! With amazing guests in attendence such as Gabriela Golder, Andres Denegri, Caryn Cline, Ruth Hayes, Julia Dogra-Brazell, Kamila Kuc, Maarit Suomi-Vaananen, Kerry Laitala, Catherine Forester, Nazli Dincel, Dustin Zemel, Gene Youngblood, Taylor Dunne, Ed DeBuvitz, Ying Liu, Linda Fenstermaker, Mike Morris, Raissa Contreras, Ben Popp, Kevin T Allen, Kate Lain, John Wenger, Tricia McInroy, Brenda Burmeister, Doug Katelus, Jeremy Moss and many others helping us celebrate this special occassion! And, as a reminder to all you gentle readers, if you go to our website at www.experimentsincinema.org shop EIC you will find our new 8 disc fundraising DVD collection (and older DVDs) as well as our brand-spanking-new book Undependently Yours: Imagining a World Beyond the Red Carpet with essays by Gene Younngblood, Chip Lord, Caryn Cline, Sasha Waters Freyer, Caroline Koebel, Clint Enns, and many more all the best, Bryan Konefsky founder/director, EIC el presidente, Basement Films Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for that spark that kindled their souls. The rest, the many, all too many as Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be bought with money, cheap glory, or social position. - Emma Goldman ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Is there any editing pattern on Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton?
Hello, Does anyone know if there's any pattern Hollis Frampton followed to do the editing for Critical Mass. I have read he used three equal copies done after the filming to create the editing process, but i haven't found any comments about the pattern or the formula used for the montage. Watching the film one could assumed Frampton followed a random process but i'm not sure about it. Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thank you very much, Albert Alcozhttp://www.visionaryfilm.net/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Is there any editing pattern on Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton?
Watching the film one could assumed Frampton followed a random process but i'm not sure about it. It's not random at all. IIRC, both the length of all the cuts and the advance between cuts are numbers of frames with some 'significance', e.g. I think the shots may all be ~ 40 frames / 1 foot. Frampton worked with algorithms, not randomness, but as a form of 'poetry'. Thus, a certain percentage of the 'art' is rooted in the nature of the algorithm, which is derived in part from certain non-obvious poetic associations... ... For another example: I can't recall reading anything about (nostalgia) that references the length of the shots. So one time I screened it for class, I timed them roughly with simple stopwatch. My conclusion: each shot is a 100 ft. load (I didn't examine close enough to see if they were loaded on daylight spools, with the light leaks at the ends then cut off, or loaded/unloaded on cores in absolute darkness minus just threading leader, etc.). This is not only a sort of obvious and convenient practical way to do the film, it also has resonances with the subject matter of Frampton giving up one art form and adopting another, memory and loss, etc. The prints burn on the hotplate until the film runs out. Any camera only holds so much, for so long. Etc. ... Also of note: working by hand in 'analog' media, Frampton was not ultra-picky about hitting any of his patterns EXACTLY all the time. Things will be off a frame or two here or there (and no matter how you load them, different 100 ft. loads of 16mm stock will yield slightly different lengths of usable footage). Apparently, this was not just the result of pragmatic 'accident' either, and Frampton introduced some of the minute deviations intentionally, perhaps keeping his 'human' hand in the game (?). ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
Never been compared to an Indy mechanic before. Thanks Dave! JL Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dave Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote: When looking to re-power any Beaulieu, remember the original batterie were made from no-obsolete NiCad cells. If you're going to the expense and effort of re-celling a battery, you sure don't want to wind up with NiCads -- low capacity and the dreaded memory effect. At a minimum, you'd want NiMH cells, preferably the low-discharge type used in Eneloop and other rechargeable brands (I'm not sure if these are available in the sizes used in the original batteries). With any NiMH celled battery, using the original Beaulieu charger may be dicey, as the rspecs for NiMH charging are slightly different. No loss, as the little wall-wart chargers are primitive and slow, and a good charger for NiMH cells isn't that expensive and a great benefit to battery readiness and maintenance. I don't know about the voltage(s) of the Super 8 batteries, or whether they even can be repacked with standard size cells. The fatter R16 batteries can be re-done with AA cells, and the smaller standard ones with AAA cells. Typically, you wouldn't use the regular kind sold for flashlights cameras and such, but ones made for building packs, which come with solder tabs attached. (Soldering leads onto the bare ends of a standard rechargeable battery is not recommended for amateurs.) As it happens, R16 batteries are 7.2V, which is the same as the battery packs used in many RC toys, so you can pick up a charger at a hobby shop -- it's easy enough to take the plug end off the original Beaulieu charger and wire it to the new one, or get a compatible plug at an electronic shop (3 pin DIN for the R16) and preserve the original charger for whatever. As Chuck notes, if you can live with a wire running from the camera to your pocket, making-up an external battery pack is the least expensive and most flexible way to go. It's an easy DIY project (you should be able to snooker a friend if you find soldering too intimidating yourself). Not to take business away from Jean-Louis or Phil, but those guys' time and expertise are waay above the necessary skill level -- it's like hiring a Indy car mechanic to change your oil... On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: A new battery is no less than $200 USD. Plus you might Need a new charger. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Is there any editing pattern on Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton?
Barbara Lattanzi created a software that mimicked the editing structure of Critical Mass: http://www.wildernesspuppets.net/yarns/hfcriticalmass/main.html I'm not sure if she based in on the actual source code of the original film or just made a representation of the experience. C Watching the film one could assumed Frampton followed a random process but i'm not sure about it. It's not random at all. IIRC, both the length of all the cuts and the advance between cuts are numbers of frames with some 'significance', e.g. I think the shots may all be ~ 40 frames / 1 foot. Frampton worked with algorithms, not randomness, but as a form of 'poetry'. Thus, a certain percentage of the 'art' is rooted in the nature of the algorithm, which is derived in part from certain non-obvious poetic associations... ... For another example: I can't recall reading anything about (nostalgia) that references the length of the shots. So one time I screened it for class, I timed them roughly with simple stopwatch. My conclusion: each shot is a 100 ft. load (I didn't examine close enough to see if they were loaded on daylight spools, with the light leaks at the ends then cut off, or loaded/unloaded on cores in absolute darkness minus just threading leader, etc.). This is not only a sort of obvious and convenient practical way to do the film, it also has resonances with the subject matter of Frampton giving up one art form and adopting another, memory and loss, etc. The prints burn on the hotplate until the film runs out. Any camera only holds so much, for so long. Etc. ... Also of note: working by hand in 'analog' media, Frampton was not ultra-picky about hitting any of his patterns EXACTLY all the time. Things will be off a frame or two here or there (and no matter how you load them, different 100 ft. loads of 16mm stock will yield slightly different lengths of usable footage). Apparently, this was not just the result of pragmatic 'accident' either, and Frampton introduced some of the minute deviations intentionally, perhaps keeping his 'human' hand in the game (?). ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Is there any editing pattern on Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton?
Barbara Lattanzi created a software that mimicked the editing structure of Critical Mass: http://www.wildernesspuppets.net/yarns/hfcriticalmass/main.html I'm not sure if she based in on the actual source code of the original film or just made a representation of the experience. C Watching the film one could assumed Frampton followed a random process but i'm not sure about it. It's not random at all. IIRC, both the length of all the cuts and the advance between cuts are numbers of frames with some 'significance', e.g. I think the shots may all be ~ 40 frames / 1 foot. Frampton worked with algorithms, not randomness, but as a form of 'poetry'. Thus, a certain percentage of the 'art' is rooted in the nature of the algorithm, which is derived in part from certain non-obvious poetic associations... ... For another example: I can't recall reading anything about (nostalgia) that references the length of the shots. So one time I screened it for class, I timed them roughly with simple stopwatch. My conclusion: each shot is a 100 ft. load (I didn't examine close enough to see if they were loaded on daylight spools, with the light leaks at the ends then cut off, or loaded/unloaded on cores in absolute darkness minus just threading leader, etc.). This is not only a sort of obvious and convenient practical way to do the film, it also has resonances with the subject matter of Frampton giving up one art form and adopting another, memory and loss, etc. The prints burn on the hotplate until the film runs out. Any camera only holds so much, for so long. Etc. ... Also of note: working by hand in 'analog' media, Frampton was not ultra-picky about hitting any of his patterns EXACTLY all the time. Things will be off a frame or two here or there (and no matter how you load them, different 100 ft. loads of 16mm stock will yield slightly different lengths of usable footage). Apparently, this was not just the result of pragmatic 'accident' either, and Frampton introduced some of the minute deviations intentionally, perhaps keeping his 'human' hand in the game (?). ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
When looking to re-power any Beaulieu, remember the original batterie were made from no-obsolete NiCad cells. If you're going to the expense and effort of re-celling a battery, you sure don't want to wind up with NiCads -- low capacity and the dreaded memory effect. At a minimum, you'd want NiMH cells, preferably the low-discharge type used in Eneloop and other rechargeable brands (I'm not sure if these are available in the sizes used in the original batteries). With any NiMH celled battery, using the original Beaulieu charger may be dicey, as the rspecs for NiMH charging are slightly different. No loss, as the little wall-wart chargers are primitive and slow, and a good charger for NiMH cells isn't that expensive and a great benefit to battery readiness and maintenance. I don't know about the voltage(s) of the Super 8 batteries, or whether they even can be repacked with standard size cells. The fatter R16 batteries can be re-done with AA cells, and the smaller standard ones with AAA cells. Typically, you wouldn't use the regular kind sold for flashlights cameras and such, but ones made for building packs, which come with solder tabs attached. (Soldering leads onto the bare ends of a standard rechargeable battery is not recommended for amateurs.) As it happens, R16 batteries are 7.2V, which is the same as the battery packs used in many RC toys, so you can pick up a charger at a hobby shop -- it's easy enough to take the plug end off the original Beaulieu charger and wire it to the new one, or get a compatible plug at an electronic shop (3 pin DIN for the R16) and preserve the original charger for whatever. As Chuck notes, if you can live with a wire running from the camera to your pocket, making-up an external battery pack is the least expensive and most flexible way to go. It's an easy DIY project (you should be able to snooker a friend if you find soldering too intimidating yourself). Not to take business away from Jean-Louis or Phil, but those guys' time and expertise are waay above the necessary skill level -- it's like hiring a Indy car mechanic to change your oil... On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: A new battery is no less than $200 USD. Plus you might Need a new charger. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
