Re: [Frameworks] Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"

[Michael Zryd]

In his introduction to his most recent book, The Cinema of Poetry, P. Adams 
Sitney describes his access to the original recording in preparation for 
editing a volume of Film Culture: 

“… above all the text of the Cinema 16 round table. Amos Vogel has allowed me 
to borrow the precious wire recordings for one night. I typed and edited the 
first of the two sessions into one as I was listening to it. (My hasty amateur 
transcription contains several errors. The symposium as a whole can now be 
heard on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ 
.)”


> On Jul 15, 2016, at 6:22 AM, Ken Eisenstein  wrote:
> 
> not complete,
> but a chunk, 
> perhaps the same exact chunk as in Film Culture, 
> is in MacDonald's Cinema 16 
> pp.202-212
> 
> "The following excerpts make up about one half of the symposium. 
> Ideas repeated for the second audience and personal introductions 
> of the panel make up, for the most part, the missing half." - SM
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Walley  > wrote:
> Hi Ken, and gang,
> 
> There are a few copies of this floating around online. I found this:
> http://coronagraph.pastelegram.org/Poetry-and-the-Film-A-Symposium 
> 
> 
> You’ll see that it’s actually called “Poetry and THE Film” (back in the day 
> they loved to put “the” in from of film, usually when they meant something 
> like “film as an art form”). And then there’s this, which is amazing:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ 
> 
> 
> Sadly, though perhaps not surprisingly, Dylan Thomas and Arthur Miller come 
> off as jackasses, especially in their plainly misogynistic responses to Maya 
> Deren. Happily, and not at all surprisingly, Deren speaks brilliantly and 
> brushes them off. As I read it, she makes them look stupid, but I’m not sure 
> that would have been the response of a contemporaneous reader/listener. The 
> start of Deren’s statement in the middle of page 178 (this is from Sitney’s 
> Film Culture Reader) is particularly awesome. 
> 
> Anyway, enjoy!
> Best,
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
> wall...@denison.edu 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal 
>> mailto:kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been poking around online for a complete transcription of the Cinema 16 
>> "Poetry and Film: A Symposium" from October 28, 1953, but cannot find it. 
>> Any leads out there?
>> 
>> Thanks, Ken
>>  www.kenpaulrosenthal.com 
>> 
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>> www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com 
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[Frameworks] Call for Submissions: 25th Annual $100FF

[Nicola Waugh]

Hi all,

Just a quick note to tell you that submissions are now open for the $100
Film Festival. We're opening a little earlier this year, in anticipation of
increased programming and celebrations for our 25th anniversary in March
2017.

We accept short films (under 22min) finished to Super 8 or 16mm film only.

You can find the submission guidelines and form here:
http://www.100dollarfilmfestival.org/call-for-submissions/

Submissions are due on *December 1, 2016*

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Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 74, Issue 12

[Noe Kidder]

I'm curious to hear what you find out! Noe

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:00 AM, 
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>1. Re: working with salt (lindsay mcintyre)
>2. Re: working with salt (amanda)
>3. Re: working with salt (alena williams)
>4. Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"
>   (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: lindsay mcintyre 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:59:58 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] working with salt
> crystals of salt - table, sea salt and other large crystals make lovely
> bubbly marks on film with a dilute solution of bleach.
>
> lindsay
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:38 PM, 40 Frames  wrote:
>
>>
>> You might ask Robert Schaller, or those who have attended one of his
>> camps. He does a summer camp in the San Juan Island, and
>> I believe they use salt water in the processing.
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Amanda Christie <
>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> hello all!
>>>
>>> I'm curious about what sort of processes are out there for working with
>>> salt and film.
>>>
>>> I have a residency on Prince Edward Island for the month of August,
>>> where I will be getting back to handmade film after a too-long hiatus...
>>> and since I will be surrounded by ocean... I'd like to work with salt and
>>> salt water from the ocean
>>>
>>> Any tips, tricks, techniques, or experiments that you'd like to share
>>> about working with salt would be much appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks so much!
>>>
>>> xoadc
>>>
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: amanda 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:28:16 -0300
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] working with salt
> Thanks Lindsay!
>
> Can you give some more details on that process, or point me toward some
> resources that do?
>
> Thanks!
>
> xoadc
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 14, 2016, at 2:59 PM, lindsay mcintyre 
> wrote:
>
> crystals of salt - table, sea salt and other large crystals make lovely
> bubbly marks on film with a dilute solution of bleach.
>
> lindsay
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:38 PM, 40 Frames  wrote:
>
>>
>> You might ask Robert Schaller, or those who have attended one of his
>> camps. He does a summer camp in the San Juan Island, and
>> I believe they use salt water in the processing.
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Amanda Christie <
>> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> hello all!
>>>
>>> I'm curious about what sort of processes are out there for working with
>>> salt and film.
>>>
>>> I have a residency on Prince Edward Island for the month of August,
>>> where I will be getting back to handmade film after a too-long hiatus...
>>> and since I will be surrounded by ocean... I'd like to work with salt and
>>> salt water from the ocean
>>>
>>> Any tips, tricks, techniques, or experiments that you'd like to share
>>> about working with salt would be much appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks so much!
>>>
>>> xoadc
>>>
>>>
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: alena williams 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 07:38:37 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] working with salt
> dear amanda,

[Frameworks] Antimatter [Media Art] -- Final Deadline July 22

[todd eacrett]

 
 
Frameworkers,
 
Just a reminder that the final deadline for this year's Antimatter [Media Art] 
is a week away (July 27). We may be able to accommodate late submissions, but 
not beyond the end of the month.
 
 
Antimatter [Media Art]
 
October 14 to 29, 2016  |  Victoria BC Canada
 
Early Deadline: May 27, 2016  |  Final Deadline: July 22, 2016 
 
Dedicated to the exhibition and nurturing of diverse forms of media art, 
Antimatter is one of the premier showcases of experimentation in film, video, 
audio and emerging timebased forms. Encompassing screenings, installations, 
performances and media hybrids, Antimatter provides a noncompetitive setting in 
Victoria, British Columbia, free from commercial and industry agendas.

Since 1998, the quality and creativity of its programming, commitment to 
audience development, and respect for artists and their work have made 
Antimatter one of the most important media arts events in Canada, and the 
world. 

In addition to single channel works for screening programs we invite proposals 
for media-based performance and installation projects, as well as curated 
programs. 
 
Complete submission guidelines and forms at http://www.antimatter.ca
 
Connect with Antimatter on Facebook for updates and event info: 
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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"

[Ken Eisenstein]

not complete,
but a chunk,
perhaps the same exact chunk as in *Film Culture, *
is in MacDonald's *Cinema 16 *
pp.202-212

"The following excerpts make up about one half of the symposium.
Ideas repeated for the second audience and personal introductions
of the panel make up, for the most part, the missing half." - SM

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Walley 
wrote:

> Hi Ken, and gang,
>
> There are a few copies of this floating around online. I found this:
> http://coronagraph.pastelegram.org/Poetry-and-the-Film-A-Symposium
>
> You’ll see that it’s actually called “Poetry and THE Film” (back in the
> day they loved to put “the” in from of film, usually when they meant
> something like “film as an art form”). And then there’s this, which is
> amazing:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ
>
> Sadly, though perhaps not surprisingly, Dylan Thomas and Arthur Miller
> come off as jackasses, especially in their plainly misogynistic responses
> to Maya Deren. Happily, and not at all surprisingly, Deren speaks
> brilliantly and brushes them off. As I read it, she makes them look stupid,
> but I’m not sure that would have been the response of a contemporaneous
> reader/listener. The start of Deren’s statement in the middle of page 178
> (this is from Sitney’s *Film Culture Reader*) is particularly awesome.
>
> Anyway, enjoy!
> Best,
> Jonathan
>
>
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
> wall...@denison.edu
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been poking around online for a complete transcription of the Cinema
> 16 "Poetry and Film: A Symposium" from October 28, 1953, but cannot find
> it. Any leads out there?
>
> Thanks, Ken
> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
> www.whisperrapture.com
> www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"

[Jonathan Walley]

Hi Ken, and gang,

There are a few copies of this floating around online. I found this:
http://coronagraph.pastelegram.org/Poetry-and-the-Film-A-Symposium 


You’ll see that it’s actually called “Poetry and THE Film” (back in the day 
they loved to put “the” in from of film, usually when they meant something like 
“film as an art form”). And then there’s this, which is amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ 


Sadly, though perhaps not surprisingly, Dylan Thomas and Arthur Miller come off 
as jackasses, especially in their plainly misogynistic responses to Maya Deren. 
Happily, and not at all surprisingly, Deren speaks brilliantly and brushes them 
off. As I read it, she makes them look stupid, but I’m not sure that would have 
been the response of a contemporaneous reader/listener. The start of Deren’s 
statement in the middle of page 178 (this is from Sitney’s Film Culture Reader) 
is particularly awesome. 

Anyway, enjoy!
Best,
Jonathan


Dr. Jonathan Walley
Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Cinema
Denison University
wall...@denison.edu



> On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've been poking around online for a complete transcription of the Cinema 16 
> "Poetry and Film: A Symposium" from October 28, 1953, but cannot find it. Any 
> leads out there?
> 
> Thanks, Ken
>  www.kenpaulrosenthal.com 
> 
> www.whisperrapture.com 
> www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com 
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[Frameworks] Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I've been poking around online for a complete transcription of the Cinema 16 
"Poetry and Film: A Symposium" from October 28, 1953, but cannot find it. Any 
leads out there?


Thanks, Ken

www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
www.whisperrapture.com
www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com
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