Re: [Frameworks] Looking for Steenbeck 6000 16/35 timing belts
Like. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 12:20 George, Shermanwrote: > SDP/SI.com carries metric belts. Page 2-163 of their metric catalog > 516-328.3300 > They don’t list a 63 tooth but have 60 or 65 tooth. > Hope that helps > > > On Feb 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Transit Audio Services Ltd. < > transitau...@skylightstudios.ca> wrote: > > > > Greetings All > > > > I'm trying to find a source for Steenbeck timing belts. I've tried the > major manufacturers and they seem to be an odd spec. > > > > 5mm pitch > > 9mm width > > Trapezoidal tooth profile > > 53, 63, 83 & 98 teeth. > > > > Thanks > > __ > > Dean Allen > > > > Transit Audio Services Ltd. > > Toronto, Ontario, Canada > > 416-977-9740 > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > Sherman George > sgeo...@ucsd.edu > 858-229-4368 > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] jargon
You're welcome. I left in 2006. Evidently, later, an executive rolled out a restyled Ticker product: the Flipper. http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/so-long-flipper-the-ticker-returns-to-cnn/168545?red=tn I googled across TVNewser and they use ticker as the name of their small-events blog. Al On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks, Al. On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote: ticker, at least at cnn On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote: Friends, For those whose day job is TV, can you tell me if there’s industry jargon for the banner that crawls across the bottom of the screen of news programs, showing headlines. Thanks... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] jargon
ticker, at least at cnn On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote: Friends, For those whose day job is TV, can you tell me if there’s industry jargon for the banner that crawls across the bottom of the screen of news programs, showing headlines. Thanks... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Etiquette
+1 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Bill Seery b...@mercermedia.com wrote: Fight all you want, but please trim your posts down to the essential parts. Repeated quoting of entire digests and/or threads makes the list unreadable, especially for those of us receiving it in digest form. Best Bill Seery b...@mercermedia.com 212.627.8070 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Java
Also try System Preferences - Java, which may be populated depending on the version. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote: Gene, do you need to install (uninstall) the JDK or the JRE? Write me off-list if you like. Al On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote: Friends, We want to uninstall the version of Java that’s on our Mac Pro/Yosemite but it doesn’t show up on the “all programs” list and we don’t know how to find it. Can someone advise? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Deep Listening Experimental Film--bringing Deep Listening to the Office!
Yes, unironic. Techno-utopian. Meanwhile, the bullet or the bit, sir. On Oct 15, 2014 11:07 PM, Marc Couroux cour...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa! Amazing! And without the slightest bit of irony to boot! The neo-avant-garde, otherwise known as the military-industrial-entertainment complex, has got your number. Synchronize predatory algorithms! On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness and mindfulness initiatives...'' Guess so. Oh well. 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith bogduec...@hotmail.com: You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have hosted deep listening workshops in the past. http://front.bc.ca/new-music/ On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm angelah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Frameworkers, Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10 mins) that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening group, *Deep Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline Oliveros' Deep Listening Practice into the corporate workplace? Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a higher consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind. Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus, or an interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music? The video is all created from recorded video conferencing meetings with Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the corporate field (3 of which work at Google). Many thanks for any thoughts or ideas! Cheers. Angie Holm ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Deep Listening Experimental Film--bringing Deep Listening to the Office!
Not to string this out at the expense of Frameworks attention, but I think I was arguing that 'the system' is made by-of individual engineers and 'the outcome' might be improved -- to the extent that it can be controlled at this early point -- by their deep listening. At the very least we'll get better auditory cues on Android phones eh. But I think we're in pretty close agreement. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: And I want to clarify that I do not want my opinions to be seen as an attack on P Oliveros, to me her work stands as good as it always has been, it is just that things like this speak tons about how the arts work today. 2014-10-16 10:44 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com: Now not kidding, Deep listening for Corporations seminars is another example of how, no matter how radical ideas can be, they can end up being recuperated by The System and we may end up working for The Man. But who am I to talk, I used to edit commercials for a living... Oh well. 2014-10-16 10:36 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com: and i was just kidding, mis-quoting apocalypse now ;) 2014-10-16 10:30 GMT-04:00 Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com: Well, you see, Marc, in this world of late capitalism, things get confused out there. I'm not arguing really, I just felt I should disagree. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you see, Marc, in this world of late capitalism, things get confused out there. Power, ideals, the old morality, and practical economic necessity. But out there with these natives, it must be a temptation to be God. Because there's a conflict in every human heart, between the rational and irrational, between good and evil. And good does not always triumph. Sometimes, the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature. 2014-10-16 10:14 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com: ''Synchronize predatory algorithms!' ''For great justice, launch Zig fighters!'' 2014-10-16 4:22 GMT-04:00 Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com: Yes, unironic. Techno-utopian. Meanwhile, the bullet or the bit, sir. On Oct 15, 2014 11:07 PM, Marc Couroux cour...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa! Amazing! And without the slightest bit of irony to boot! The neo-avant-garde, otherwise known as the military-industrial-entertainment complex, has got your number. Synchronize predatory algorithms! On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness and mindfulness initiatives...'' Guess so. Oh well. 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith bogduec...@hotmail.com: You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have hosted deep listening workshops in the past. http://front.bc.ca/new-music/ On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm angelah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Frameworkers, Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10 mins) that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening group, *Deep Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline Oliveros' Deep Listening Practice into the corporate workplace? Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a higher consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind. Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus, or an interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music? The video is all created from recorded video conferencing meetings with Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the corporate field (3 of which work at Google). Many thanks for any thoughts or ideas! Cheers. Angie Holm ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Deep Listening Experimental Film--bringing Deep Listening to the Office!
Pauline also has a friendly relationship with Railroad Earth in Atlanta, and by extension, Eyedrum. I can put you in touch with our film curator if you like. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: ''Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness and mindfulness initiatives...'' Guess so. Oh well. 2014-10-15 15:07 GMT-04:00 Michele Smith bogduec...@hotmail.com: You might try Western Front in Vancouver, Canada. They have hosted deep listening workshops in the past. http://front.bc.ca/new-music/ On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Angela Holm angelah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Frameworkers, Does anyone have a suggestion of where to show a short film (10 mins) that is an experimental documentary about a Deep Listening group, *Deep Listening Incorporated*, whose goal is to bring Pauline Oliveros' Deep Listening Practice into the corporate workplace? Deep Listening fits in perfectly to the zeitgeist of corporate wellness and mindfulness initiatives and is a great way to bring a higher consciousness to the 9 to 5 grind. Festivals or venues that have a meditation or mindfulness focus, or an interest in Pauline Oliveros and experimental music? The video is all created from recorded video conferencing meetings with Pauline and the group of 5 women who all work in the corporate field (3 of which work at Google). Many thanks for any thoughts or ideas! Cheers. Angie Holm ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps
Hello, I've been nursing a computational documentary app for ages based around footage in SE Louisiana 2001-07. Strictly prototype and mostly academic. Write off list if you want a precis. I have literature and opinions. Also, check out pockets of development around ZKM-Karlsruhe, USC, UC-Santa-Cruz (Mateas), V2-Rotterdam, gatech (Reidl), and OpenEndedGroup, for example. But what you want is specifically small-screen? Al On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Mariya Nikiforova mar...@radonlake.com wrote: Paul Turano's Wander Wonder Wilderness http://www.wanderurbanwilds.com/ project, which is currently raising funds on Kickstarter On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:15 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Shane Eason shaneea...@yahoo.ca To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22 Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e... I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps (individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 (Orbis OS), Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may have one in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, et cetera... Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda July Muy apreciado, -Shane __ Shane Christian Eason, MFA Asst. Prof. of Exp. Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE Director School of Communication Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Glitch video artists
That's a nice variety of approaches, on ungun for example. I suspect most of the glitch people are by now self-consciously referential. Kim Asendorf has been curating a lot of this recently (in .gif format, naturally enough). c.f. http://fa-g.org/ongoing . Some of the major or else visible and feted players are collected there, including Yoshihide Sodeoka and Rosa Menkman. See also http://we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2013/07/glitch-momentums.php . There tends to be a conscious focus on image consumption, rather than film per se. SAIC (Jon Cates e.g.) is also working in this vein. I want to add that, in my own partially vetted opinion, a lot of this work comes out of music technology research. Glitch in 1994 and earlier is for me a product of lots of people, of whom Markus Popp is well known and visited CalArts if I recall correctly, possibly as early as 1997. To my far-secondhand knowledge it is Yasunao Tone who invented the technique of placing perforated tape on an optical disc. Kim Cascone too. The tradition is an old one and if you trace it via microsound it goes back via Roads and Truax at least as far as Xenakis. Basinski is also useful in this regard, i.e. attention to the disintegrations of the magnetic. Cheers, and thanks for your time. Al On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Lady Snowblood snowbloods.para...@gmail.com wrote: um, this is kindof awkward ~ I make screen glitch video. I love talking about datamoshing and other codec alteration processes work; it is unlike any analog film process, though analogies abound. I used to do 16mm hand-altered film, that’s part of why I’m on this list, it’s the tradition I came out of. I’m also a theory person, so the “why glitch” conversation is very important for me, though I can’t claim to speak for anyone or glitch as a whole. Work samples are at my website, http://drawclose.com. Jessica On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:13 PM, robert harris lagonab...@gmail.com wrote: Evan Meaney is deeply involved with the digital glitch. Smart guy, good artist, fine human being. Has not worked, as far as I know, with hollywood western footage. Some of Meaney's work uses his own home (VHS) movies, making it self-referential and medium-referential. He teaches in South Carolina, if you want to find him. On Sep 22, 2014, at 3:52 PM, lana wrote: Hi all, I have been trying to remember the name of a collaborative duo that made some videos I saw a few years ago. One of the long works was a video made from a Hollywood western. They used a technique that recorded digital glitches and artifacting that left streaks and blocks of color. Ring any bells? Any other suggestions of folks working with Digital Cinema/Video Art in a self-referential way, (the self being Digital Cinema), would be appreciated as well. Thanks, Lana ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Glitch video artists
It's a fur piece but yes, no doubt some of us did see the piece in question, last night. Here's to many an answer print. Kind regards in turn, Al On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote: Turns out that Lossless #3, the piece in question, was included in the sold-out screening last night at REDCAT. Hope some of you made it. Best regards, Adam On 9/22/14 12:58 PM, direc...@lift.on.ca direc...@lift.on.ca wrote: Sounds like Rebecca Baron and Douglas Goodwin's Lossless series. http://www.vdb.org/titles/lossless-3 best Chris Hi all, I have been trying to remember the name of a collaborative duo that made some videos I saw a few years ago. One of the long works was a video made from a Hollywood western. They used a technique that recorded digital glitches and artifacting that left streaks and blocks of color. Ring any bells? Any other suggestions of folks working with Digital Cinema/Video Art in a self-referential way, (the self being Digital Cinema), would be appreciated as well. Thanks, Lana ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Trying to Remember
Frederick the Mouse (Leo Lionni) is rather nice and touches on this issue. Don't know from what it derives. While other mice are gathering food for the winter, Frederick seems to daydream the summer away. When dreary winter comes, it is Frederick [...] who warms his friends and cheers them with his words. —Wilson Library Bulletin On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Marina Uzunova projectioni...@caboosebooks.net wrote: I can't recall which ones but I think a number of tales by the Grimm Borthers have a young poor, usually considered ugly, brother or peasant save the day. Here's another one that might be relevant: There is an unauthored fable with numerous variations across the Balkans that tells of a kingdom of young people who had decided to get rid of all old people, except for one son who hides his father. The father eventually saves the kingdom - through wisdom - by figuring out how to combat a monster or overcome a drought, or other challenges. Here's a version attributed to Romanian folklore: http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0981.html#romania An almost analogous one exists in Bulgaria where the old man's answer is to dig up all the ant-hills in the kingdom where numerous corn grains are being carefully stored. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote: I vaguely recall, from childhood, a folk tale or fable in which a group of people or animals are confronted with a perilous challenge that requires the creative input of everyone in the group to solve. Everyone, that is, except one individual who is considered so inferior that he is not worth consulting. Yet, after failure all around, it is that individual who ultimately triumphs with a novel and unexpected solution. Can anyone name a well-known “teaching story” like this? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Cameraless Filmmaking emulation in photoshop
Hi Warren, folks, I'm not familiar with the Photoshop function. Still, the following pair of GIMP plugins could be useful. One appears to depend on the other: http://registry.gimp.org/node/28055 requiring http://registry.gimp.org/node/6128 In addition I think it is possible and probably powerful to work this way in Blender, though the curve may be a bit steep. Here is a very fast moving, designer-y tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JjJy8kb9aM . The workflow appears to be experimental (and based in very recent Blender versions) but to anyone here not reflexively allergic, if you've not worked with Blender before, it's worth your time. Speaking personally, I'm very interested in digital to print workflows. Al On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rajesh, I know PS still ingests video and you're still able to work frame-by-frame. Many folks still use PS for rotoscoping and video cutouts because the aesthetic looks handmade - like Kelly Sears' Voice on the Line http://vimeo.com/8700224. But in CS3, there was a filmstrip function that allowed you to work on a strip of video as if it were a strip of film and the product would kinda resemble a cameraless film without discreet frames like... Len Lye's Color Box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PgNr0IZRDE , Ben Russell's Trypps 1 http://vimeo.com/7480364 , Jodie Mack.s A Joy, http://vimeo.com/8375376Brakhage's Night Music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk8Bs2w5pUI, etc. I'm trying to show examples of digital simulacra of the real/organic thing... or a different, digital, material-alienated thing But thanks for the suggestion; that dude's pretty excited about some smart-object video packaging. And yes, those filter packages in PS are examples of digital simulacra that are both material and labor alienating for sure. But, I'm looking specifically for this cameraless, frameless, digital example. thanks again, Warren On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Rajesh Barnabas rbarna...@gmail.com wrote: Just making sure you are aware of this technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTYxaTV2BkQ Sorry if this is not what you are talking about... On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: Frameworks: A few years ago, photoshop offered a filmstrip function in its video tools. You used to be able to emulate cameraless filmmaking techniques in this mode. I believe Gregg Biermann used this technique in some of his work. You can still work with video frame-by-frame in photoshop. But, it looks like the filmstrip function has disappeared in the last few PS versions. Does anyone know where one might work this way digitally? Does GIMP offer up this functionality? thanks all, Warren ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Broken mini DV
One of the conservators here and I put our heads together for the following list. BAVC offers re-housing of tapes per http://www.bavc.org/preservation/transfer Also possibly of interest George Blood http://www.georgeblood.com/ wrote a number of video preservation specs for library of congress http://ptlp.com/about.html http://www.conservation-us.org/specialty-groups/electronic-media#.U-ujm2NSvJU On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Sean Weitzel panaf...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind that as others have stated you can transplant the tape into another shell, mini dv tape is extremely thin and fragile and great care must be taken when working with the tape itself. On Aug 13, 2014 9:52 AM, Jon Behrens bolex...@msn.com wrote: No You can take apart the tape case and remove the insides and install them into a another mini DV tape case that does not have a cracked part. I did this once years ago with a Beta SP tape that had a similar issue Hope this helps JB Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote: Friends, I have discovered that a mini-DV of an interview we did with George Kuchar is broken. The “door” on the cassette that opens so the tape can thread is cracked and loose. I assume that means the tape is lost, right? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter
I agree. I'd be interested btw to know if there's a subset of this list that's interested in sound design in particular. Could be practical or theoretical. Zach references Michel Chion on his site for example. Of interest to some http://www.nicolascollins.com/texts/callforsilence.pdf On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Peter Mudie peter.mu...@uwa.edu.au wrote: That ‘Video Silence’ piece is fascinating. Peter (Perth) From: Zach Poff z...@zachpoff.com Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:39 pm To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter +1 for Vade's shaders. I haven't used them for anything useful but they are a great example of digital tools emulating analog processes. I use MAX for all of my work, although it only sometimes resembles analog processes. Here are 2 examples: In The Shape of Memory MAX algorithmically re-edited found Super8 footage based on image-similarity, so it begins with one image and then searches through all the other frames looking for something similar. Rinse and repeat. http://www.zachpoff.com/projects/the-shape-of-memory/ In Video Silence MAX watches live TV and compiles the most silent moments, so the result is a constantly-updated loop of fleeting glances, awkward pauses and other interruptions of the sonic flow. http://www.zachpoff.com/projects/video-silence/ -Zach Poff ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter
sue-c Nice. Lynn-Marie Kirby, too, has a fair amount of prior work in MAX-Jitter. Couple thoughts more: Anton Marini wrote some shaders and other processes for MAX to resemble film temperature profiles (technicolor-1, 2, 3, bleach bypass, etc). ( I see David Han has now also mentioned Anton (vade), and Quartz Composer. There is also, in that series, a mockup of a Rutt-Etra, if I'm not mistaken. ) Lots of other people use, or have, or once used MAX, and I have some archived patches in this vein I'd be happy to share if you like. And, there are many others who use PD instead, or Islandora, Processing, Field, or any number of other environments -- , fluxus, extempore, choose your poison -- MAX is great and derived from IRCAM with a long history, but it is indeed a big world by now. Though it sounds like you need MAX patches in particular. Hit me up off list if you care for a trickle of suggestions known to me. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:56 AM, John Davis 0johndav...@gmail.com wrote: Sue Slagle (Sue-C): http://www.sue-c.net/ From: Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 at 7:50 AM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter Frameworkers: I'm looking for research suggestions of artists, filmmakers, and works that utilize Max MSP/Jitter as their main software tool. I am specifically interested in FILM and analog video makers and works (experimental, abstract, avant-garde) that have used Max to explore or investigate the moving image medium via digital processes that resemble or have a direct lineage to analog processes. I know there are many instances of hardware modifications utilizing Max (and those are welcomed suggestions). But, I'm really interested in standalone Max patches or apps that resemble analog processes. Expanded Cinema, video installation, live or interactive performances (something beyond VJ stuff), and theater/black box works are all welcomed suggestions. thanks in advance! Warren Cockerham ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Video Projectors, Loops, Thumbdrives
Mpeg2 should also be ok. On Mar 8, 2014 11:06 AM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Sisters and Brothers, I'm installing a three channel video installation now, and have forgotten all I once knew about getting projectors to loop images. Any help would be much appreciated. In the past, I had a hard time determining which projectors would accept which thumbdrives, and which files... I want three fairly short loops to play continuously. But some thumbdrives work, some FILES work (and more importantly, some don't) and I ended up chasing my tail. At present I'm just using DVD players. I'm remembering now: I had to convert my short loops to MPEG1 in order for the projector to read them, but when I did so the compression was awful, so better from a DVD all best, Mark Street www.markstreetfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Video Projectors, Loops, Thumbdrives
Here's a relatively old projector spec and already it specifies that h264 compression in an .mov or .mp4 container are supported. That's close to optimal except maybe in Linux; you might give those profiles a shot. http://www.optomausa.com/support/discontinued-products/detail/ml500 On Mar 8, 2014 2:57 PM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote: Mpeg2 should also be ok. On Mar 8, 2014 11:06 AM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Sisters and Brothers, I'm installing a three channel video installation now, and have forgotten all I once knew about getting projectors to loop images. Any help would be much appreciated. In the past, I had a hard time determining which projectors would accept which thumbdrives, and which files... I want three fairly short loops to play continuously. But some thumbdrives work, some FILES work (and more importantly, some don't) and I ended up chasing my tail. At present I'm just using DVD players. I'm remembering now: I had to convert my short loops to MPEG1 in order for the projector to read them, but when I did so the compression was awful, so better from a DVD all best, Mark Street www.markstreetfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] sound track collaboration
Cool. Composers don't mind commissions though. Al Matthews - http://fatmilktv.com Atlanta, GA, US +1 337 214 4688 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:51 PM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote: To Michael and anyone else seeking music for any kind of film: I highly recommend Kevin MacLeod's website http://incompetech.com/ on which Kevin offers a wide variety of his compositions in many genres, royalty-free. Not only is Kevin gracious enough to make all this stuff available for nada, he's also been willing to accommodate reasonable requests if you ask nicely (e.g. deleting a MIDI voice or two from one of his existing pieces in order to make a more simple background sans embellishment). My experience working with 'composers' to create original scores has not been at all positive. They tend to do their own thing and I tend to gag at the result. But then you're stuck with hurt feelings, I did all this work JUST for you... One of my friends commissioned his brother (an accomplished professional classical musician) to write a score for a film. He paid for it, too. The resulting music didn't work with the piece at all, so my friend had to ditch it (I heard it, he really HAD to...) This called a major family brouhaha, with angst that trailed on for years. Far better in most cases to see if Kevin has anything that works for your piece. YOU get to pick, and he's happy to get a credit no matter which of his works you might choose. Everybody wins. And did I mention that it's free? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films
Max de Haas, Jean Gremillon, Enrico Fulchignoni, and Jean Rouch are listed with re: the Groupe de Recherche de Musique Concrète esp '52-'56 cf Section 2.4.4 in http://music.arts.uci.edu/dobrian/CMC2009/OS12.3.Gayou.pdf Al Matthews - http://fatmilktv.com Atlanta, GA, US +1 337 214 4688 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, William Wees, Dr. william.w...@mcgill.ca wrote: Arthur Lipsett’s films are composed almost entirely of “found sound.” --Bill Wees From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Albert Alcoz Sent: November 24, 2013 3:56 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films Hi, Institutional Quality by George Landow was created from a found soundtrack, in this case a tape recorder about an instructional test. Does anyone know other examples that uses found soundtracks for experimental films, especially from the sixties and seventies? Thanks, Albert http://www.visionaryfilm.net/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Archive
If I'm not mistaken, some mail clients obscure those, so the headers may not now be as visible as they otherwise would be. Thus in gmail you need top-right triangle-thingy, view original, and in outlook you'd right click, view source, for example. Then you can control-f on the word archive. Apologies if this is obvious. -- Al Matthews - http://fatmilktv.com Atlanta, GA, US +1 337 214 4688 On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com wrote: The link is in the header of every FrameWorks message - at the top : List-Archive: https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/pipermail/** frameworks/ https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/ At 9:34 -0400 2/08/13, Bill Seery wrote: Where is the Frameworks archive residing these days? The old Hi-Beam archive ends in 2011 __**_ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworkshttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Jud Yalkut RIP
plus i dont know if his work is archived maybe at MOMA ? anyone know? Hello all. I do not know and would be interested to hear. Electronic Arts Intermix has a good set of pages http://www.eai.org/artistSupportDocs.htm?id=257 , though with less between 1974 and 2004. I wonder if there's not a repository in Ohio? It might be useful to think about the highly uneven reception some artists get and the reasons for that. Perhaps leaving NYC has some effect, since most of his later career was in flyover country, Ohio. Or being a pretty trippy and psychedelic type of maker in some of his work. Perhaps some of it was not being written about enough by critics, or curated into shows often enough, or touring enough. But some of it must have also been precisely because of his ease in shifting from one medium to another, and thus not fitting into experimental film in a pure sense because he also was involved in video and electronic music and image processing. It's less the case now, but for a long time there was a lot of purism in film circles. All these reasons seem salient to me as well. Speaking to the first and the last, Ohio has evolved to host for example http://accad.osu.edu/, so no doubt we agree that it's more flyover country in nyc terms than electronic arts terms. Surely there's some interesting lag visible here in Jud Yalkut's readiness to hand, between the centralization that is analog television and New York and the distributed-global arts presence we're arriving at by now? I wonder too how much of the anti-artefactual gesture of the video movement is here in play. Or perhaps that's a broad stroke. When I heard of his passing, I wondered how many younger folks had even heard of him, much less seen some of his work. Viewing the work seems the harder bit though, isn't it. It's probably worth raising my hand to say that, while the distribution channels seem to exist, at least for certain artefacts, those channels still seem to require a curator, and I cannot quickly determine if that is for the best. Corrections appreciated. -- Al Matthews - http://fatmilktv.com Atlanta, GA, US +1 337 214 4688 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: i screened some of his work at some curated shows and i think he was a kind genius that was my experience anyway thanks for the post about him passing i dont believe in death per say only transformation i dont believe in belief either so... but it is sad to see a life go though he is still with us i think he is a great spirit art makes shifts in and of itself without getting accolades from the constituency perhaps a tribute can be made a memorial like we did with brakhage in nyc but mark fr the academy can possibly get him in the tribute they have at the oscars too plus i dont know if his work is archived maybe at MOMA ? anyone know? Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimac...@gmail.com AIM carismachet Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434 Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Twitter: @carimachet https://twitter.com/carimachet Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited. On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Chuck Kleinhans chuck...@northwestern.edu wrote: On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:46 PM, David Baker wrote: How is it possible on an Experimental Film Discussion List that so little is said in salute when someone of this singular magnitude of achievement passes into the cosmic ether of eternity? When I heard of his passing, I wondered how many younger folks had even heard of him, much less seen some of his work. It might be useful to think about the highly uneven reception some artists get and the reasons for that. Perhaps leaving NYC has some effect, since most of his later career was in flyover country, Ohio. Or being a pretty trippy and psychedelic type of maker in some of his work. Perhaps some of it was not being written about enough by critics, or curated into shows often enough, or touring enough. But some of it must have also been precisely because of his ease in shifting from one medium to another, and thus not fitting into experimental film in a pure sense because he also was involved in video and electronic music and image processing. It's less the case now, but for a long time there was a lot of purism in film circles. Chuck Kleinhans ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks