[Frameworks] 8mm Film

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Hello Morgan,

Is it super 8 or regular 8mm? If it's super 8mm, what stock type, how old, and 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Free 8mm and 35mm film (Morgan Hoyle-Combs)
   2. Live now! Yes: Alee Peoples / Karissa Hahn, Microscope
  Gallery Event Series (online) (LBurchill)


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I?m still giving away free boxes of 8mm and 35mm film for anyone still dabbling 
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:27:10 -0400
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Subject: [Frameworks] Live now! Yes: Alee Peoples / Karissa Hahn,
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The Watch LInk is now live here: 
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Q with both artists via live chat starts at 8:45pm ET!

Microscope is very pleased to present an online screening of works by Los
Angeles-based artists Karissa Hahn and Alee Peoples as as the first 2020-21
edition of its emerging artist series *YES.*

The program includes a selection of works made by both artists shot on
Super 8mm, 16mm film, or video. These two compelling groups of works, which
often involve performance, frequently draw from and are informed by other
artistic fields, such as collage, sculpture, and installation.

Hahn and Peoples will be available for a Q with the online audience via
live chat at 8:45pm ET.

Admission $8, Members $6

Tickets Valid through Thursday 10:30pm ET!

Karissa Hahn is a visual artist based in Los Angeles who holds a BFA from
the California Institute of the Arts. Her work articulates the nature of
contemporary image reproduction and dissemination through the use of
analogue and digital technologies. Whether creating performative films to
highlight the hidden intensities of the everyday or blurring digital
ephemera into physical reality through inkjet printing, she conjures up a
storm of ?spectra ephemera.? Hahn has shown around the planet Earth in
various cinemas, galleries, and institutions such as the New 

Re: [Frameworks] Beaulieu 4008ZM4 Super 8 silent camera

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Try Pro 8mm in Burbank, California. There was a time when they re-conditioned 
these cameras and sold them along with brand new, exterior battery packs. At 
the very least, they'd be able to refer you to someone.

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[Frameworks] New Experimental Doc Podcast

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Announced via press 
release:

“In Lucid Dreaming, curator and writer Pamela Cohn interviews a constellation 
of artistic luminaries working within contemporary contexts of documentary 
practice and experimental moving image. Together they explore artistic 
inspirations, conceptual intent and processes, and the expanding 
socio-political possibilities of creating personal memoir.” The first episode 
features the filmmaker Penny Lane and future guests will include Kirsten 
Johnson, Miko Revereza, Shireen Seno, Alexander Nanau, Onyeka Igwe, Ra'anan 
Alexandrowicz and Srdan Keca. “We are reaching out to you from under the rock 
of reality like a cochlea octopus.”

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Re: [Frameworks] Luthor Price RIP

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

When I was a San Francisco Cinematheque voluteer back in the early '90's, I 
assisted Luthor in a performance called, 'Meat', at the Eye Gallery. I recall 
it vividly:

A large white sheet separated Luthor from the audience. Luthor's hair was 
frosted white like an old man and his face was covered in pasty whiteface. He 
wore oversized, thick, dark glasses, a white lab coat, and rubber gloves. My 
job was to run a video feed from his side of the curtain, which the audience 
could watch on a monitor on the other side. He asked me to wear a lab coat as 
well, even though I was not visible to anyone.

Luthor had an enormous side of beef on a table with a fist-size hole in it. He 
repeatedly alternated between spraying aerosal into the beef hole and reaching 
in as if to pull something out. His movement was very measured and disciplined. 
On the audience side, liver was frying on a hot plate. The smell was rather 
oppressive. Luthor was generous enough to let me snap photographs throughout 
the entire performance.

Luthor walked with a pronounced limp due to being shot in (I believe) 
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Re: [Frameworks] New Lenny Lipton Book!

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Lenny's based in LA. And I'd be honored to be part of his Other Cinema book 
launch.

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[Frameworks] New Lenny Lipton Book!

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Yesterday, I had a delightful phone conversation with Lenny Lipton--a true 
gentleman and a really gentle man. What a treat to talk shop with the man who 
wrote the seminal publications, 'The Super 8 Book' and 'Independent 
Filmmaking', among others. And in October 18, 2020, he's coming out with an 
epic, 550-page tome titled, 'The Cinema in Flux: The Evolution of Motion 
Picture Technology from the Magic Lantern to the Digital Era'. Details here: 
https://www.amazon.com/Cinema-Flux-Evolution-Picture-Technology/dp/1071609505

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[Frameworks] Seeking Lenny Lipton Contact Info

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'd like to contact Lenny Lipton regarding his films from 1969/1970-era 
Berkeley, California. Please reach me off list with with his email or phone 
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[Frameworks] Seeking 2 Archival, Public Domain Images

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I've been scouring the internet and archival footage archives for two public 
domain moving images for a grant sample. One is of a woman (ideally) devouring 
food with abandon (about 15 seconds) and the other is of a beatnik poetry 
reading or someone reading poetry (15 seconds). Such images in a contemporary 
setting are not difficult to find, but older one are. Educational and social 
hygiene films have the right tone.

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[Frameworks] Seeking Grant Writer for Documentary Short

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm seeking recommendations for a grant writer who has produced successfully 
funded grants, ideally for short, non-traditionally structured documentaries, 
but superior writing skills are most important, as is affability. 
Recommendations based on personal experience preferred but I welcome all 
suggestions. Please respond to me directly as time is of the essence.

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[Frameworks] Converting .cda File to a .WAV or .AIFF

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

How would I convert a .cda audio file to a .WAV or .AIFF?

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[Frameworks] Seeking Line Drawing Animator

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm seeking recommendations for an independent artist/animator
who works in a simple line drawing style.

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[Frameworks] Seeking Docs With Novel Use of Onscreen Text

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Seeking names of documentaries, online sample sequences etc. that feature text 
onscreen in novel ways from animation to integrating with action. Please not I 
am not looking for work with words scratched into the emulsion.

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[Frameworks] Transforming B/W Photographs to 3D

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Can some someone suggest an ideal software program or preferred editing 
platform for transforming archival black and white photographs to 3D?

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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Hi Kate,

My film, Crooked Beauty, fits the bill for 
everything you've listed, including the subject being a queer artist (though 
that's not referred to in the film). The film embodies mental health struggles 
through natural and urban landscapes. It's very provocative but also very 
beautiful, transformative, and ultimately redemptive. More info 
here. I've presented it 
to audiences of all ages, including highschoolers, internationally. Please 
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[Frameworks] Simple DVD Authoring

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Is there someone in the Bay Area who can assist me with authoring a non-menu 
dvd for a 30-minute film? If so, please contact me off list. Thank you kindly.

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[Frameworks] Gina Basso Email Contact

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If anyone has an email contact (ideally, for work) for San Francisco MOMA film 
curator, Gina Basso, I'd appreciate your sending it to me off-list. I searched 
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[Frameworks] Seeking Silent Film Sequence Reference

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

A friend of a friend who is studying women's lit at UCLA has an "urgent film 
nerd question" for her research: does anyone know of a famous (or at least 
recognizable) scene in an old silent comedy where some disappears (a-la Méliès) 
leaving only empty clothes behind?

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[Frameworks] Whisper Rapture at SF DocFest

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

My doc-opera, Whisper Rapture<http://www.whisperrapture.com>, will be screening 
at SF DocFest on Wednesday, June 5 at 9pm and on Friday, June 7 at 9:15pm in 
the Roxie Theater in San Francisco. It will be followed by the feature film, 
Barstow, CA<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8292330/>.

More information and tickets for this dual-screening, 
here<https://prod3.agileticketing.net/websales/pages/info.aspx?evtinfo=446994~675e319f-e7c4-4a79-a043-594a140375bb;>.

I look forward to seeing you there!

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[Frameworks] Whisper Rapture at American Documentary Film Festival

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

My poetic doc-opera, Whisper Rapture, will be screening at the American 
Documentary Film Festival in Palm Springs on Monday, April 1 at 11am. Festival 
and ticket info here: https://www.americandocumentaryfilmfestival.com/

Film information here:  www.whisperrapture.com

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[Frameworks] REDUX: Beyerdynamic Professional Headphones DT 770 PRO 250ohm - FOR SALE

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Beyerdynamic Professional Headphones DT 770 PRO 250ohm for sale
New, never used, $140
Beyerdynamic Carrying Case, $10
Please contact me off-list and leave a phone number where I can
reach you by voice, not text. Shipping not included in price.

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[Frameworks] Beyerdynamic Professional Headphones DT 770 PRO 250ohm - FOR SALE

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Beyerdynamic Professional Headphones DT 770 PRO 250ohm for sale
New, never used
Beyerdynamic Carrying Case for $10
Please contact me off-list and leave a phone number where I can
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[Frameworks] FLEX FEST??

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Does anyone know what's up with FLEX FEST? Their website states that --'FLEX 
’19 call for entries is coming, July 2018!--however there are no entry links to 
date. Anyone know what's up or have a contact? No one as responded to the 
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[Frameworks] Seeking Manager for Film/Music Tour

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm looking for an individual or agency to book and manage an international 
tour featuring my doc-opera Whisper Rapture and live performance by featured 
character, cellist-vocalist Bonfire Madigan Shive. Merging fine art cinema 
aesthetics with social justice issues, our project is provocative, 
transformative, and entertaining. We'd like to present at music, film, art, 
educational and mental health venues, among others. Please visit our 
website for project information including 
press, interviews, and endorsements.


I look forward to your referrals and recommendations.


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[Frameworks] Seeking P. Adams Sitney Contact

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Does anyone have an email address for P. Adams Sitney?


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[Frameworks] Seeking Musicians as Subjects for New Avant-Doc

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

My next (feature length) mental health themed documentary will be about 
creativity and madness, focusing on musicians whose music does not feature 
lyrics. If you are musician who might wish to participate or can refer me to 
another, I look forward to hearing from you. Feel free to write to me off list.


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[Frameworks] Michael Fox Contact Info

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If anyone has an email address for film critic, Michael Fox, please write to me 
off list.


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Re: [Frameworks] Visionary filmmaker, Paul Clipson has passed.

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

As stunning as Paul's images are, I was always most impressed with his generous 
spirit. He would always stop to chat when we passed one another, whether by 
bike or foot. He was a rare gentle/man and guiding light in that respect for us 
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[Frameworks] Irina Leimbacher Email Address

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[Frameworks] Art+Advocacy=Whisper Rapture

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If you, a friend, a family member, or a colleague might be interested in a film 
that marries experimental film aesthetics to radical mental health advocacy, 
please check out my music & mental health doc-opera, Whisper Rapture, on 
Indiegogo:  https://igg.me/at/whisper-rapture. It's 99% complete and with just 
5 days left in my campaign for finishing funds, your humble contribution will 
help spread the health.


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[Frameworks] A Cinematic Balm for Your Heart

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If you’ve been salivating for a beautiful work of cinematic art that addresses 
mental health issues through the universal language of music, please help put 
the final spit & shine on, Whisper Rapture:

https://igg.me/at/whisper-rapture



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[Frameworks] How to Make a DVD Screener?

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

A programmer from a coastal film festival with poor streaming access has 
solicited a DVD screener for their jury to preview.


Can someone share some simple instructions for making a down & dirty DVD that 
will play on DVD player, Mac or PC computer?


Thanks, Ken


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Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over narration?

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Crooked Beauty: 
www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com

and

Whisper Rapture:  www.whisperrapture.com  


both by yours truly.


Whisper Rapture was just completed and is currently being submitted to film 
festivals worldwide.


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[Frameworks] Attention Berlin-based Frameworkers

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm presenting an in-progress version of Whisper Rapture, my mental health 
doc-opera about vocalist/cellist Bonfire Madigan Shive, along with an earlier 
mental health doc, Crooked Beauty, at a mental health event in Potsdam, 
Germany, September 2-7. I'd like to add screenings in Berlin on September 8 & 
9. If you're based in Berlin and could help organize a show, or have 
contacts/suggestions in the art/film underground, and/or have a place I can 
sleep for two nights, I'd love to hear from you.

Whisper Rapture:  www.whisperrapture.com
Crooked Beauty:  www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com

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[Frameworks] Free Copy of Introduction to Documentary (1st ed.) by Bill Nichols

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I just ordered the new, 3rd edition of Bill Nichols' seminal, Introduction to 
Documentary. So I'm happy to give away my 1st edition to anyone who would like 
to pick it up in person, here in San Francisco. The book is in excellent 
condition, save some yellow highlighting in the section on The Poetic Mode, 
which I was researching for my MFA thesis project, back in the day. First come, 
first served.


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Re: [Frameworks] Eulogy Films

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Heart of a Dog by Laurie Anderson. Not a short, but it sure feels like one in 
all the best ways.


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[Frameworks] Gallery Installation Loop for Whisper Rapture

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

This is a standalone gallery installation loop of favorite images from my 
in-progress music and mental health doc opera, Whisper Rapture:  
http://whisperrapture.com/category/blog/


Ken

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[Frameworks] Spaciaous Live-Work Home for Amiable Artist in San Francisco

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

We are seeking one very peaceful housemate with a committed arts practice to 
join our 4,000 square foot live-work collective near 16th and Valencia in the 
San Francisco Mission. Move in March 1, possibly March 10. All the sweet 
details and contact info here: 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/6007642601.html


Ken

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[Frameworks] Macrobiotic Filmmaking

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

New Whisper Rapture Blog Entry on 'Macrobiotic Filmmaking':  
http://whisperrapture.com/category/blog/


Ken

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Re: [Frameworks] digital-era distro

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm grateful for this discussion, having just posted a similar inquiry on the 
Doculink listserv several weeks ago. My takeaway from Doculink was to sell dvds 
which include a downloadable file, or if one prefers, a streaming license with 
is live within a given window. Having toured for three and a half years with 
Crooked Beauty and my Mad Dance Mental Health Film Trilogy, selling dvds after 
my screening discussions was a guaranteed--and relatively substantial--source 
of revenue. Between touring, online sales to individuals, non-profits, and 
academic institutions, I sold over 4000 dvds. However, now that I'm several 
months away from completing my current project, Whisper Rapture, I'm not 
looking forward to lugging around 200 dvds at at time, especially as I'm 
imagining more lengthy tours than before. On the other hand, David's point 
about having merch as a point of purchase sale at your show cannot be 
underestimated.


As our lives and attendant tools and toys become increasingly virtual, there's 
been a parallel resurgence come reclamation of 'slow culture' from food to 
LP's. At the risk of sounding sentimental, I believe there will always be 
something in the human animal that wants to touch something beautiful. I've 
been carefully monitoring the merchandise for both musicians and fine artists 
over the last couple of years and there appears to be a rise in beautiful 
containers for the work with lots of extras--some material, some digital. For 
my current project, I'm considering a balance of both. One year ago, I gave my 
new, 33 year old housemate a dvd of my trilogy and to this day, she claims she 
has not watched it because she doesn't have access to a player. (She also 
admitted to me last month that she doesn't like watching films because it's 
hard for her to sit still, but perhaps that's besides the point...) So why make 
dvds if no one can (or is willing to) watch them? Fortunately, there is still a 
substantial academic market for dvds, even as they're increasing purchasing 
streaming licenses. But you need a lot of bandwith for a high quality steam 
which is where working with a company helps. Here in San Francisco, the 
Australian spawned academic streaming company, Kanopy has been streaming my 
trilogy for the past two years. They are a top notch organization, although 
their standard 50% cut of each sale still stings given that I received 100% of 
my direct academic sales prior to working with them. Still, it's nice to 
receive a quarterly paycheck as my dvds sales have trickled down to nothing 
over the past two years, save the occasional screening.


Regarding Whisper Rapture, my current plan is to produce a limited amount of 
blue rays for direct distribution to academic libraries or the odd consumer or 
non-profit that prefers a disc. And the disc will include information for an 
online download and/or streaming option. The specific platform for the latter 
is to be determined. I'll certainly look into Penny Lane's platforms. As for 
touring merch, I intend to sell some sort of beautiful paper based 'container' 
for my film's streaming/download info. However, this container wil be a work of 
art that the viewer of my film can physically take with them. Maybe they will 
tack it up on their wall, maybe it will sit on a shelf, maybe it will be given 
to someone as a gift. It will contain 'extra's' related to the film, perhaps a 
study guide, or a booklet of 20 beautiful frame stills, etc. Liberated from 
schleping dvds or shipping hundreds of units ahead to the next location on my 
tour, I'll be able to carry much more merch in my baggage.


Ultimately, the key to determining the form and scope of your distro is knowing 
who and where your audience is. As a mental health advocate, I'm deeply 
committed to meeting my audience live at the grassroots level so point of 
purchase sales are really really important. I'm striving towards a balance of 
maintaining my integrity as a cinema artist who obsesses over every single 
frame, and giving my audience access to 'content'. Watching Crooked Beauty for 
free on Vimeo is hardly a cinematic experience, but most of the folks who watch 
it are too hungry for it's message to concern themselves with stray pixels. 
Having presented Crooked Beauty in person at well over 350 venues, I've 
witnessed every conceivable kind of screening condition and not once has 
someone complained about it being out of focus, grainy, oddly colored, or 
having the wrong aspect ratio. Despite our best intentions, it's impossible to 
cover every sort of viewer experience. I'm not suggesting that we completely 
surrender to our increasing fragmented media landscape. But to try and offer a 
range of distro possibilities and options and hold lightly to any of them 
working perfectly--all this coming from a first class control freak!


In closing, I went to the cinema with a new friend a couple nights ago, who 
confessed he prefers watching movies at home on his 

Re: [Frameworks] Films on Farming

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Any list of experimental films on farming should begin and end with Hybrid by 
Monteith McCollum. Hybrid embodies farming in style and content, and is one of 
the most influential films on my own work, particularly in terms of rhythm and 
sound. In fact, Monteith created the sound design for my film, Crooked Beauty.


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[Frameworks] Whisper Raputre Video Installation @ Creativity Explored, SF Tonight

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

A video installation of selected excerpts from my in-progress doc-opera, 
Whisper Rapture, can be seen tonight along with an exhibition of multiple art 
mediums by Creativity Explored staff:

TRADING SPACES - A Creativity Explored Staff Exhibition
Opening Reception
Thursday, November 3, 2016
7:00 pm to 9:00 pm
3245  16th Street, San Francisco, CA 94103
More information:
https://www.creativityexplored.org/events/exhibitions?date=2016-11-03#event3249


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[Frameworks] New Trailer for Whisper Rapture

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Please in/joy a new 2-minute trailer for my in-progress film, Whisper Rapture:


http://whisperrapture.com/videos/


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Re: [Frameworks] Docs With Expressive Dramatizations

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Thanks to one and all for your suggestions. To clarify some questions/points 
that were raised/made:


By 'expressive dramatizations', I did not intend to refer to 'docu-dramas', or 
clips appropriated from fiction films as illustrations within documentaries. So 
the question of where the clip or scene came from, while interesting, is not 
relevant to what I'm seeking. Unfortunately, I don't have a good memory archive 
of films, so the only example that came to mind in my initial request was, 'The 
Act of Killing'. But I know there are innumerable other examples.


I recently saw a new doc on the life of Norman Lear, which featured 'flash back 
dramatizations' of a child siting on a sound stage in a very sparsely 
constructed home; a wall here or there, a suspended window, colored shadows, a 
b/w motion picture projection of a memory, etc. This is the best memory I could 
muster, but I didn't mention it because it's still not quite as expressive as I 
had in mind. Rather than 're-staged', perhaps 'staged' would have been a good 
descriptor. Or 'expressively staged'--yes, I think that works best for what I'm 
looking for. Regardless, I've been compiling quite a list between Frameworks 
and Doculink and when I find a couple good examples, I'll post them as 
illustrations for what I'm seeking, and that might breed more suggestions.


While I'm very particular about word choices, and how their denotation and 
connotation can be mediated by context, I typed 'docs' rather than 
'documentaries' while writing my post simply as a matter of short hand while 
typing. I'll leave it all if you'd like to bandy the differences between the 
two. Or the implication that verite implies truth. All one need do is consult 
the numerous interview in Scott MacDonald's brilliant compendium of interviews 
on the intersection of avant garde and documentary genres for how the 
documentaries have evolved in practice and by extension, definition. I also 
adore Herzog's insistence that anything that moves the film towards a 'deeper 
truth' is fair game, no matter how re/constructed.


Here's a really old, short essay I wrote--telling titled, 'Manipulations'--for 
a program of experimental docs I curated back in 2001 in Singapore. I think the 
basic principles still hold true so I'm linking it here for whatever relevance 
to the discussion may be gleaned: 
http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/manipulations.htm


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[Frameworks] Docs With Expressive Dramatizations

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm researching docs that feature expressive dramatizations, either as brief 
interstitial moments or extended scenes such as 'The Act of Killing'. I look 
forward to any and all suggestions.


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[Frameworks] Seeking Small Home Recording Studio Space in LA / San Diego

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm seeking a small home studio in Los Angeles and/or San Diego for recording a 
voice only interview. Not looking for comprehensive set up, just a space that 
is sound proof, with a digital recorder and professional mic for recording 
voice.


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[Frameworks] Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I've been poking around online for a complete transcription of the Cinema 16 
"Poetry and Film: A Symposium" from October 28, 1953, but cannot find it. Any 
leads out there?


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[Frameworks] 2 Video Installation Questions

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

1)  For a wall mounted, flat monitor gallery installation, what is the most 
efficient, low foot print means of bringing a looping digital video image to 
the screen via a file rather than a dvd player? Also, recommendations for 
particular types and models of monitors?

2)  A hotel I'm consulting with wants to PROJECT a video image onto a wall. The 
throw is about 12 feet with the projected image being about 5 or 6 feet across. 
They do NOT wish to use a monitor. The projector will be permanently installed 
on a raised platform and we'd like to keep the footprint as small as possible. 
So do we use a very small dvd player or is there a way to play a looping 
digital file through a projector? I'd also appreciate recommendations for small 
projector models.

Please email me off list (in addition to on list for everyone else) as I'm 
hoping to get some suggestions, particularly on question 2, by midday pacific 
coast time.

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[Frameworks] San Francisco June Sublet Available

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

San Francisco bedroom in large art co-op available June 4 to June 11 while I'm 
out of town on a shooting safari. Please contact me off-list for details.

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[Frameworks] Bruce Baillie's, 'Here I Am'

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

My short rumination on filmmaker Bruce Baillie's film, 'Here I Am', just posted 
here: 

http://aaroncutler.tumblr.com/post/144293761364/communal-filmmaking-bruce-baillies-work-still

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[Frameworks] Seeking Paid Car Ride for Film Shoot in Columbia, SC

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If you live in Columbia, South Carolina, or know someone who lives 
there, please check out this paid car ride request for an upcoming film 
excursion:

http://columbia.craigslist.org/rid/5574009520.html

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[Frameworks] Michael Sicinski Contact

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If anyone has an email contact for the writer/critic, Michael Sicinski, please 
contact me off-list.

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[Frameworks] Canon Camera Problem

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I have a Canon 5D Mark lll. Was shooting time-lapse of the moon, one frame 
every 6 seconds. About 20 minutes into the sequence, the camera suddenly shut 
down. I thought my CF card had filled up, or the battery had run out. But when 
the camera wouldn't turn back on after changing the card and battery, I took 
off the lens and saw that the mirror had locked up. Any ideas as to why this 
may have happened and how to remedy it?

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[Frameworks] Seeking Stephanie Gray's Email

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Can someone please send me Stephanie Gray's email, off list? Phone number as 
well, if you feel comfortable doing so.

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[Frameworks] Upgrading Mac Tower for optimal FCP 7 performance

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

My current project will likely be my last project on FCP 7. My Mac tower is 
rather ancient and it's starting to make ticking noises--sounds like a door 
latch--that I've never heard before. It's likely the hard drive, so I'm going 
to take it in for replacement shortly so that my unit doesn't crash, mid-edit. 
I'm seeking advice as to what additionally upgrades I can do to optimize my 
tower for this project in terms of speed and safety, as I'm editing from a pool 
of infinitely more images than any prior project--well over 2,500. My pool of 
images and project files are backed up on two additional drives.I believe I'm 
maxed out on RAM.  Not looking for a comprehensive overhaul as I will likely 
sell this computer after this project.  Here's the specs:

OSX 10.6.8
Processor 2 x 2.66 Ghz
Dual Core Intel Xeon
Memory 66GB, 667 Mhz DDR2 FB-DIMM
4 cores

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[Frameworks] Video Projector Recommendation

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

A community center that is screening one of my films would like to 
invest up to $1,000 in a video projector. So I'd appreciate any 
recommendations for brands/models based on your personal experience or general 
familiarity
 with such devices, including the optimal components or functions I 
should look for. 

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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films on Farming/ Agriculture

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'Hybrid' by Monteith McCollum is a masterpiece:  
http://www.monteithmccollum.com/#!recent-works/cay5
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[Frameworks] Music & Mental Health Doc-Opera

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

The website for my in-progress music & mental health doc-opera, 
Whisper Rapture, is now live. Work sample, interviews, and more just a 
click away:  www.whisperrapture.com

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[Frameworks] Font Suggestions

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Anyone out there with a broad knowledge of typefaces? If so, I'm looking for 
suggestions for my soon-to-be-live, new website. Please contact me off-list for 
details. Not look for design or logo advice, just font suggestions for the 
mast-head.

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[Frameworks] Fonts

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Anyone out there with a broad knowledgeable of fonts and typefaces? If so, 
please contact me off list. I have a question about stylistic choices for a 
logo.

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[Frameworks] Crooked Beauty Free to View on Vimeo

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm
 happy to announce that Crooked Beauty, my poetic documentary about the 
life and mental health activism of Icarus Project co-founder Jacks 
McNamara is now available for anyone to view on Vimeo here:  

https://vimeo.com/28315394

Please
 note that this is for private, home use only. University and college use 
requires the purchase of an educational rate DVD, and conferences and festivals
 must seek my permission. As a cinema artist, I'd appreciate your 
not projecting this Vimeo file at community gatherings as it will look 
terrible. Please use the Mad Dance DVD instead, thanks for 
understanding! 

The DVD not only includes two additional short 
films, but features Crooked Beauty in 5 international languages, and is 
available here: 

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[Frameworks] Experimental 'Doc-Opera' & Cello-Vocal Event in SF

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm presenting a short excerpt from my in-progress lyrical doc-opera, Whisper 
Rapture: A Bonfire Madigan Suite, about the life and music of visionary 
avant-cellist-vocalist and radical mental health activist, Madigan Shive. The 
event will primarily feature two musical sets by Shive. 
Location: Studio Valencia, 455A Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94103
Date: Friday, September 11, 2015
Doors: 7pm 
Concert/Screening: 7:30pm
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[Frameworks] An Evening of Art Activism featuring...

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

...visionary cellist-vocalist Madigan Shive and an 
exclusive in-progress preview of the lyrical documentary about her life and 
music, 
'Whisper Rapture: A Bonfire Madigan Suite' by Ken Paul Rosenthal.
 
 Friday, September 11, 2015, 7:30pm to 9pm

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[Frameworks] Seeking Video Projector Loan for 1 Evening

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Free admission for you and a friend to a house concert of visionary 
cellist-vocalist Madigan shive and in-progress preview of the lyrical 
documentary I'm making about her life and music in exchange for use of your 
video projector and/or screen for the event:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1586665694913617/

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[Frameworks] Redux: Da-Lite Projection Screen

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Da-Lite Projection Screen for Sale - $15
Screen is old but mechanically good.
Slightly yellow but projection light would likely mitigate that.
Pick up in San Francisco preferred.
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[Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Super 8 Sound in Burbank, CA sells *new* battery packs for the Beaulieu 4008. 
Hopefully, it will work for the 4008ZM4. If not, I imagine they'd have a 
solution. Ask for Phil. Here's the link:  

http://www.pro8mm.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=01Product_Code=ACC_POWERKIT1Category_Code=accessories

Also, not terribly long ago, around the turn of the century, the Widescreen 
Centre in London made new belt battery packs for super 8 Beaulieu cameras. 
However I just did a search on their (rather ungainly) website and could find 
nothing. You might wish to write to them. 
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[Frameworks] The Last Reel

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As cinemas across the United States transition to digital projectors, 
this short documentary celebrates the beauty of traditional 
35-millimeter film:

http://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/10003626202/the-last-reel.html

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[Frameworks] Six Free, 1-Quart Photochemical Datatainers in SF

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I have six free, 1-quart photochemical datatainers, first come first served in 
San Francisco only. No shipping, sorry...Ken
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[Frameworks] Seeking source for this quote:

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“The closer movies
  come to representing reality, the worse they fail at representing
  the world.”

I think it's by Alexander Kluge, but not certain.

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[Frameworks] Killer Conference!!! Call for Papers

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Forwarded from: travis-vo...@uiowa.edu
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:38:14 +
Subject: [VisEv] The Berkeley Conference on Precarious Aesthetics



Call for Papers







The Berkeley Conference on Precarious Aesthetics 

UC Berkeley, October 15-17, 2015



The conference will be hosted by Berkeley Center for New Media in collaboration 
with the Department of Film  Media at UC Berkeley and the research project The 
Power of the Precarious Aesthetic at
 The Department of Media, Cognition and Communication, University of 
Copenhagen.  



Submission Deadline: May 1, 2015. See details below.



Confirmed speakers include:

Tom Gunning, University of Chicago

Christine Ross, McGill University

Abigail De Kosnik, UC Berkeley

Jeffrey Skoller, UC Berkeley

Jacob Gaboury, Stony Brook University

W. J. T. Mitchell, University of Chicago



Is it … always an advantage to replace an indistinct picture by a sharp one? 
Isn't the indistinct one often exactly what we need? (Ludwig Wittgenstein, 
Philosophical Investigations) 



In spite of technological advances striving for greater clarity and resolution, 
visuals that counteract such perfection may never have been more appreciated. 
Feature films, photography, documentaries, televisual images, music videos, 
video
 games, artists’ films and new digital media are currently saturated with 
images that, in various ways, are blurred, noisy and non-transparent. They 
invite us to see the world, yet at the same time, they obstruct our view, often 
to dazzling effect. By operating
 at the mercy of bodies and/or technologies that are unstable and liable to 
fail, mediation is here rendered precarious. Such cases raise a host of 
distinct but related questions such as:

• How can it be that the blurry image is often preferred over the sharp one? 
Why is the indistinct image, as suggested by Wittgenstein, “often exactly what 
we need”? What might we need such images for? How do they operate in various 
domains,
 media and genres? How can precarious mediation be deployed to rhetorical, 
aesthetic and political effect? How does it potentially inscribe forms of 
precarious existence – precarious life?

• How do the transformative repercussions of a digitalized media culture 
intersect with the present surge in precarious mediation? How do analogue and 
digital media materialities come forth in such cases, and how are relations 
between authenticity,
 simulation and fakery played out?

• How is the presence of the camera itself inscribed through traces that point 
back to its alleged mode of production and the circumstances of recording? How 
might the embodied camera inscribe an ethics of the gaze, or trace attitudes 
toward
 danger and risk for the filming subject and those being filmed? Can the camera 
take on a life of its own, be subject to terror, fear or death?

• How does the present surge in precarious mediation relate to more lasting 
negotiations of blindness and insight, opacity and transparency, vagueness and 
clarity, tactility and opticality, the visible and the invisible? How does it 
relate
 to tensions between embodied and disembodied modes of perception, suspensions 
and prolongations of perception, to doubt, to concealment and to iconoclasm? If 
pictures want something, do they now want to hurt themselves, to stage the life 
and death of their
 media materialities, to boost the lure of their ruinous decay?

The challenge for the delineation of a precarious aesthetics is to understand 
the operational logics of precarious mediation, which is why we need to 
interrogate this mediation historically, theoretically and philosophically.

We invite explorations of the questions above. These explorations may also 
involve issues such as:



• Precarious art and the notion of precarious life

• Intersections of past and present

• Mediated memories and nostalgia

• Mourning and melancholia

• The medium as message

• Hot and cool media

• The attraction of ruinous media

• Perfect imperfection 

• Poetic precision

• The enigmatic

• The sublime

• Medial and human error, finitude

• The dynamics between perfection and imperfection

• Contingency and chance

• Bootleg aesthetics

• “Poor images” and the tension between high and low resolution 

• Medium-specific noise

• Noise in image and sound, glitch

• Intermedial tensions

• Temporal versus spatial disruptions of mediation

• An erotics of concealment and revelation, in image, sound, narrative

• The dynamic between transparency and opacity 

• The dynamic between the disembodied and embodied camera gaze 

• The dynamic between the omniscient and the situated camera gaze

• Uses of extra-diegetic versus diegetic cameras

• The camera as an actor that can live and die

• The appeal of chaos

• Epistemological and poetic vagueness

• Finitude, obsolescence



Beyond the conference in October selected papers will be invited to take part 
in a special issue of the Journal of Visual Culture as well as an edited book.

[Frameworks] The Whisper Rapture Blog is Launched!

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

On
 today's confluence of super full moon, solar eclipse, and Spring 
Equinox, I'm happy to launch my weapon of mass construction: The Whisper
 Rapture Blog -- a mindful memoir that charts the evolution of my lyrical music 
documentary, Whisper Rapture: A Bonfire Madigan Suite:   
http://whisperrapture.com/

In/joy!  Ken

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[Frameworks] Super 8 to 35mm Optical Blowup

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I'm surprised no one mentioned the master; Bill Brand. Here's his website:  
http://www.bboptics.com/biography.html

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[Frameworks] URGENT: Peter Forgacs Contact ASAP

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I sadly missed the Peter Forgacs appearance here in San Francisco this past 
week, and am told he is leaving town Tuesday morning. If anyone has his email, 
or contact information for his host here in San Francisco, I'd be very 
grateful. Please contact ASAP ---  off-list  ---

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[Frameworks] Six, 1-Quart Photo Chemical Datatainers

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Six, 1-quart photo chemical datatainers. Brand new. $4 for all six. Pick up in 
San Francisco only.
Please email me off list!
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[Frameworks] Prominar Anamorphic Lens for Sale

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

This is a big, rather heavy lens. When you twist the lens barrel and ring in 
opposite direction, the distortion affect can only be described as what 
Brakhage employed heavily in, 'Dog Star Man'. Glass is clean

$15 plus shipping. I'd prefer to sell it to someone here in San Francisco to 
save myself a trip to the post office, but am open to shipping.

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[Frameworks] Sound EQ

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Nakamichi BX-1, 2-Head Cassette Deck - $75

Excellent working condition

Silver finish, excellent cosmetic condition




















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[Frameworks] Place to Crash Sat. Night in Oakland/Berkeley, CA

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Any Oakland or Berkeley, California Frameworkers out there whose couch I could 
crash on this Saturday night? If so, please contact me as soon as possible off 
list. Thanks so much! Ken

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[Frameworks] Sekonic Studio Deluxe ll L-398M Light Meter for Sale

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Brand new, mint condition, never used. Please email me off-list for price...Ken

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[Frameworks] FREE Film EQ for SF Pickup Only

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I have some leftover remnants from my film eq garage sale which folks are 
welcome to pick up from me for FREE in San Francisco. Please contact me 
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- 39 x
Hervic Super 8mm Tape Splices  






















- Elmo
Viewer Type 100 Daylight Viewer (*connects to front of Elmo Super 8 projector.
NOTE: attachment bracket is bent, but viewer is in perfect condition)  
























- 1-reel 35mm metal
developing tank  *good for snip tests  

- Canon C-67 lens
cap  *fits 1014XLS camera

- Hurricane Jumbo air
bulb  

- 1 x Toshiba 49mm B40 C
filter in hard plastic case 





- 19-foot combination
mic/remote cord for super 8mm cameras  

- 14-foot combination
mic/remote cord for Elmo super 8mm cameras 























-
Canon BM 10,17-inch telescoping mic for super 8 cameras, hot shoe mount, in
original case   *untested but makes for a great prop mic
  





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[Frameworks] Seeking Scott Dorsey

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Hi Scott, I accidentally deleted your email address--though I do have your 
snail mail address. Hope you hear from you soon and I'll get a shipping quote 
for your eq to you on Monday. Thanks, Ken

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[Frameworks] PS: Part 2: 16mm Super 8mm Garage Sale‏

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Also have these:

- 39 x Hervic Super 8mm Tape Splices $5
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[Frameworks] Film EQ Garage Sale – 16mm, Super 8mm, and more...

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Everything is in excellent working order, and in
good-to-excellent cosmetic condition, unless otherwise noted. Please email
me--off-list only--for details. I am based in San Francisco, so prices do
not include shipping. I feel rather sad to let these cherished pieces go, as I
put so much love into tracking them down. But they have been hibernating for
years, and deserve to be used by film lovers and lovers of film. BONUS: Each 
person
who makes a  purchase will receive one
free Mad Dance Mental Health Trilogy DVD (see Mad Dance web link below). I can
send you pictures of the pieces you're interested in but I expect to receive
dozens of inquiries, so please be patient until I can reply. However, if anyone
would like a PDF of the entire list, I can send that to you immediately upon
request...Thanks! Ken 

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16mm

- Kodak Pageant 250S 16mm sound projector (NOTE: pedestal is loose)  $150 

- 16mm Moviescope  $50

- 16mm 4-Gang Syncronizer $35

- 16mm Splicer $40

- Bag of 16mm splicing tape: 5 x clear
unperforated, 2 x clear double-perf, 2 x white double-perf $10

- Bag of 16mm leader: 1 x 100ft. white single perf, 2 x 100ft. Clear
double perf, black leader short ends  $8

- Projector Lens: Graflex 2-inch, f1.6, SOMCO  $8

- Projector Lens: Graflex 2-inch, f1.6, Somtar  $8

- 2 x 400 foot metal 16mm reels  $5

- 4 x 150 foot 5 inch plastic reels 
$4

- 14 x 16mm 3.5 inch plastic reels 
$10 

- 7 x 16mm 3.5 inch metal daylight spools  $6

- 3 x Double 8mm 2 inch plastic reels 
$1

- 1 x 4 inch plastic FPC core and 1 x 3 inch plastic core  $1

- 12 x 16mm animated titles, each one is 4 feet long  $5

SUPER 8mm 

- Sankyo Sound XL-620 Supertronic Super 8mm Camera in original Kodak
camera bag, includes 9v power adapter $150

- Bolex 18-5L Projector with original instruction book $90

- Super 8mm 2-Gang Syncronizer  $20

- Elmo Motorized Super 8mm Sound Editor 912/S  $90  

- Minolta S5 Viewer Editor  $70

- Spare Hood/Glass for Minolta S5 Viewer Editor  $5

- 2 x Eumig SERIE 600 Daylight Viewer (*connects to front of Eumig Mark
610D projector) $25/each

- Elmo Viewer Type 100 Daylight Viewer (*connects to front of Elmo Super
8 projector. NOTE: attachment bracket is bent, but viewer is in perfect
condition)  $15

- 3 x Wurker Super 8 Splicers  $45/each

- Sankyo Interval Timer, ½ to 60-second intervels, rotary dial, hot shoe
mount, in original case  $10

- Craig Regular 8mm Junior Rewinds, includes plastic super 8mm core
adapters $10

- 19-foot combination mic/remote cord for super 8mm cameras  $10

- 14-foot combination mic/remote cord for Elmo super 8mm cameras  $8

- 12-foot remote cord for super 8mm cameras  $5

- Canon BM 10,17-inch telescoping mic for super 8 cameras, hot shoe
mount, in original case (NOTE: untested)  $5  

- Elmo EC-101 Electret Condenser Mic (NOTE: untested)  $4  

- Re-loadable Super 8 cartridge, Russian 
$10

- Bag of 28 x 50ft S8mm reels, 3 x 100ft S8 reels, and 1 x 150ft S8 reel—all
plastic $15

- The coolest tin metal 50-foot Super 8mm reel you ever saw $1

- Sankyo CME1100 Macro Titler, includes 9 x mattes in 35mm slide mounts,
in original case $5

- 8 x assorted Kodachrome super 8mm titles, each one is 17 inches long  $5

- 20 feet of SMPTE Super 8 registration target in original tin can  $5

- 9 x regular 8mm to super 8mm plastic spindle/reel adapters  $1

OTHER

- Polaroid Instant One Step Camera 
$25

- Keson Industries 50-foot crank fiberglass measure tape  $10

- 2 x Whirlwind Accusonic 16-foot male to female XLR cables  $11
for both 

- 1 x Whirlwind Accusonic 3-foot male to female XLR cable  $4

- Kodak Cine Exposure Calculator T8-133, in original case with
instructions  $1

- 2-foot heavy duty cable release, dial lock  $5

- Duplikin ll 16 to 35mm Printer by Century Optics C3750  $15

- Tiffen Professional Series 9 Filter, 8 Yellow 2, in hard case  $5

- Canon C-67 lens cap  $1

- 6-foot XLR to mono mini plug  $5

- Hurricane Jumbo air bulb  $1

- American Cinematographer Manual, 8th Edition  $5

- 1 x 35mm 3.5 inch daylight spool 
$1

- iMic USB Stereo Audio Device, connects mic and other sound input
devices to computers, includes CD Rom  $3

- Portable Electronic Keyboard 4.5 x 17 inches, 37 keys, 22 rhythm 
orchestra effect buttons, 4 custom drummer buttons, takes 4 x 1.5v batteries  
$10

- SONY Professional Walkman Stereo Cassette Recorder WM-D6C, with power
adaptor, Sony ECM 909A stereo mic, instructions, carrying case, strap, 2 sealed
cassette tapes  $30

- Metal desktop 3-leg folding mic stand, metal, raises to 12 inches,
with mic holder  $5

- 1-reel 35mm metal developing tank 
$3

- Fuji Film FinePix A825 Digital Camera, 8.3 mega pixels, 4x optical
zoom, incl. SD card and instruction manual 
$5

- Regular 8mm, Phantom of the Opera The Unmasking’, 25-feet, b/w  $2

- Hand Processing dip/agitation rod 
$1

- 15 x Roscoe E-Colour  Formatt Filter swatch sets  $10
for entire set

- 1 x Toshiba 

[Frameworks] Storage for 7363

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I have several 400 ft. 16mm rolls of 7363. Best to long term store in my fridge 
or my freezer?

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[Frameworks] More 16mm Ektachrome Filmstock for Sale

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Refridgerated and sealed:

- 7240 Ektachrome 1 x 400 ft. $100

- 7285 Ektachrome 2 x 400 ft. $100/ea OR $175 for both
If interested, please send me your mailing address. I'd like to ship today.

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[Frameworks] 16mm Ektachrome Sold

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Sorry folks, the rest of the Ektachrome sold right out...Ken

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[Frameworks] All Film Stock Sold

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

All the film stock has sold and will be shipped shortly, thanks for your 
patience.

I'll be selling (quite sadly) much of my film equipment shortly, so please stay 
tuned!

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[Frameworks] Updated Film Stock List

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Here is an updated list of the film stock I am selling. It's been selling 
rather quickly, so please contact me off-list as soon as you can with your 
requests. Again, everything has 
been carefully double-wrapped in plastic and zip lock bags, and stored 
in the fridge/freezer. All stocks are sealed and unopened unless noted 
otherwise. Everything is very reasonably priced to sell. I'm based in San 
Francisco, so shipping is additional. Please forward this to anyone you feel 
might be interested. Cheers! Ken
 
 35mm
 - EXR 3378E Sound Recording Film, 1 x 1200 feet
 - High Contrast Pan Intermediate Film S0-331 (Estar Base) 2 x 400 feet
 
 16mm
 - 7222 Double-X Negative, 200 foot (*short end)
 - 7245 Ektachrome  50D Negative, 1 x 100 feet
 - 7205 250D, 2 x 100 feet (the seal on *one roll* is broken, but that roll is 
unexposed)
 - Kodachrome 25, 3 x 100
 - 7272 Color Internegative Film, 1 x 1200 feet
 - 7272 Color Internegative Film, 1 x 1200 feet (*minus 100 feet)

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[Frameworks] REDUX: Updated Filmstock List w/Prices

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Here's a list of what I have left with prices. I'm 
receiving a ton of inquiries and everything is going fast. So please 
email me off-list as soon as you can with what you're interested in, including 
your 
mailing address. I'm going to the post office shortly where I'll find 
out the shipping cost, then I'll get right back to you. Once I receive 
your payment, then I'll ship, ideally today.

Thanks! Ken
35mm
 - EXR 3378E Sound Recording Film, 1 x 1200 feet - $70
 - High Contrast Pan Intermediate Film S0-331 (Estar Base, similar to 
2369/5369) 2 x 400 feet - $100 (*for both)
 
 16mm
 - 7222 Double-X Negative, 200 foot (*short end) - $25
 - 7245 Ektachrome  50D Negative, 1 x 100 feet - $25
 - 7205 250D, 1 x 100 feet - $25 
- 7205 250D, 1 x 100 feet (*seal is broken, but the roll is unexposed) - $20
- Kodachrome 25, 3 x 100 - $10 each
 - 7272 Color Internegative Film, 1 x 1200 feet - $300
 - 7272 Color Internegative Film, 1 x 1200 feet (*minus 100 feet) - $275

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[Frameworks] Final Stock Update - Super Reduced Prices

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm down to the last few rolls, so I've dropped the prices on everything. 
Kodachrome can be hand-processed as B/W into  quite a beautiful mess. I have 
the instructions, if desired. Here's some information on the Hi-Con. It's 35mm 
and I imagine it would work splendidly for ray-o-gram's. (*Prices do not 
include shipping from San Francisco):

35mm
- High Contrast Pan Intermediate Film S0-331 (Estar Base) 2 x 400 feet  $75 for 
all 800 feet

16mm
- 7222 Double-X Negative, 200 foot (*short end)   $20
- 7245 Ektachrome  50D Negative, 1 x 100 feet   $20
- Kodachrome 25, 3 x 100  $5/each
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[Frameworks] Whoops: Final Stock Update - Super Reduced Prices

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

H

I'm down to the last few rolls, so I've dropped the prices on everything. 
Kodachrome can be hand-processed as B/W into  quite a beautiful mess. I have 
the instructions, if desired. Here's some information on the Hi-Con:

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum379/105771-fs-kodak-so-331-like-2369-5369-high-contrast-pan-intermediate-film-100-rolls.html
 

It's 35mm and I imagine it would work splendidly for ray-o-gram's. (*Prices do 
not include shipping from San Francisco):

35mm
- High Contrast Pan Intermediate Film S0-331 (Estar Base) 2 x 400 feet  $75 for 
all 800 feet

16mm
- 7222 Double-X Negative, 200 foot (*short end)   $20
- 7245 Ektachrome  50D Negative, 1 x 100 feet   $20
- Kodachrome 25, 3 x 100  $5/each
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[Frameworks] Film Stock For Sale

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm selling the following rolls of Super 8, 16mm, and 35mm film stock. The 16mm 
and 35mm stock has been carefully double-wrapped in plastic and zip lock bags, 
and stored in the fridge/freezer. The super 8mm stock has been kept relatively 
cool in a closet. All stocks are sealed and unopened unless noted otherwise. 
Please contact me off-list with all reasonable offers. I'm based in San 
Francisco, so shipping is additional. Please forward to anyone you feel might 
be interested. Cheers! Ken

35mm
- EXR 3378E Sound Recording Film, 1 x 1200 feet
- High Contrast Pan Intermediate Film S0-331 (Estar Base) 2 x 400 feet

16mm
- 7222 Double-X Negative, 3 x 100 feet
- 7222 Double-X Negative, 200 foot (*short end)
- 7231 Plus-X, 1 x 400 feet 
- 7240 Ektachrome Reversal, 4 x 100 feet
- 7285 Ektachrome 100D Reversal, 3 x 100 feet
- 7239 Ektachrome 1 x 100 feet
- 7245 Ektachrome  50D, 1 x 100 feet
- 7205 250D, 2 x 100 feet (the seal on *one roll* is broken, but the roll is 
unexposed) - Kodachrome 25, 3 x 100
- 7272 Color Internegative Film, 1 x 1200 feet
- 7272 Color Internegative Film, 1 x 1200 feet (*minus 100 feet)

Super 8
- 7285 Ektachrome 100D Reversal, 7 x 50 foot cartridges
- 7217 Vision 2, 200T, Negative, 2 x 50 foot cartridges
- Wittnerchrome 25, Reversal, 2 x 50 foot cartridges
- 7266 Tri-X, Reversal, 3 x 50 foot cartridges
- 7265 Plus-X, Reversal, 1 x 50 foot cartridge
- 7277 4-X, Reversal, 2 x 50 foot cartridges

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[Frameworks] For Sale: 'Frame Master Pressure Plate for Super 8'

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

The 'Frame Master' is a hard, highly polished chrome-plated piece of brass that 
fits into the pressure plate of any Super 8 cassette. This precision formed 
piece improves picture sharpness and steadiness both horizontally and 
vertically. It also greatly reduces the likelihood of the Super 8 cassette's 
plastic pressure window causing scratches on the base side of the film.

Andec Film in Germany sells this for 120 Euro, or US $161:
http://www.andecfilm.de/en/e_s8_pressureplate.htm

Mine is brand new, only used once, and I'm selling it for $75 shipping included 
in the US, first come first served. Please email me off list.

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[Frameworks] Canon 5D Mark lll Users in Seattle

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

If you live in Seattle and are very familiar with the Canon 5D Mark lll, I'd be 
happy to trade you lunch for some hands on instruction while I'm in town on 
July 31 and August 1. I've got a basic grasp of the camera's workings, but 
would like some more detailed tutoring. Please email me off line with your 
phone number, thanks!  Ken

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[Frameworks] Kickstarter Consult for Filmmakers

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'm officially launching my Kickstarter Consultancy practice for filmmakers who 
wish to present their projects with clear and beautifully articulated 
descriptions, goals, and outcomes. Details at:http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festivals in General

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

While volumes can be written on the logistical, psychological, bureaucratic, 
nepotistic, and economic challenges and limitations of entering film festivals 
in this day and age, I'd like to share one personal motivation and one anecdote.

I began entering festivals on the cusp of a time when sending in one's entry on 
a 16mm reel was soon to be precluded by mini-dv tapes and DVDs. Given that my 
lifelong singular vocational goal (since first grade!) was to teach, festival 
entry and acceptance from the outset was all about beefing up my resume in 
order to appear as a working artist. After a 10-year teaching career, I've 
spent the last four as a touring artist-activist, endeavoring and enjoying far, 
far more personal, professional, and monetary satisfaction than any number of 
festival acceptances or appearances could ever offer me. In short, being one's 
own 'traveling film festival' is evermore attractive in the face of competing 
entries, the lack of accountability, and a host of other problematic issues 
already broached on this forum that preclude the worthiness of entering 
festivals.

All that said, I still enter festivals with a more pointed eye towards those 
that thematically and historically support work of the nature I am entering, 
again, largely with the intention to support my applications for grants, 
residencies, and other related professional endeavors. Funny thing is, though 
I'm making the strongest work of my career (as measured by critical and popular 
response), my festival acceptance rate has shrunk considerably even as the 
award rate has increased. Most alarming is that some festivals that have 
traditionally accepted all of my earlier, less evolved work have full on 
stopped accepting my more recent work. 

As an example, one higher profile experimental fest didn't accept a piece that 
I finished this past October. So for only the second time in my career, I 
decided to followup with the festival. I received an exceedingly generous note 
from the festival director saying they (I'm being gender neutral here) had 
previewed 75 per cent of the entries but not mine, and would personally review 
my film. Well, they fell over themselves with praise for my piece, so I asked 
why it had not been accepted. Turns out that the other 25 per cent of entries 
was farmed out to a group of non-filmmaking students to preview! The director 
(whom I should point out was only in their second year as director) was aghast 
and admitted to being in the process of turning things around for the better. 
Furthermore, they pre-accepted my film for the following year. 

Point is, this is a well-established festival in the experimental world. How 
long had it been farming out previews to students, let alone non-filmmaking 
ones?! Please don't ask me to name the festival. Some years back, I named 
another even more reknowned fest in this forum that suddenly stopped showing my 
work after screening almost all my early pieces, and my attempts to follow up 
created a lot of unnecessarily bad blood between myself and the fest, resulting 
in what appears to be an unrepairably burnt bridge.

Sorry for the long post, comrades. I've been trying to hold off sharing any of 
my experience over the course of this thread as it the festival game as been 
just that: a game with winners and losers, alas. But to conclude on an up note: 
festivals at their heart are about collectively sharing and experiencing work 
with our audiences. So as a working antidote for our festival entry blues, why 
not conscious exploration of the wealth of possibilities for true independence 
that are available to filmmakers today thanks to the relative merits of 
technology and the internet. Personally, I have no interest in the internet as 
a site for online festivals and screenings. But as a means of building 
audiences, distribution and sales, and researching venues and institutions in 
person screening presentations, the internet has been indispensable. There's 
also a ton of micro cinemas and artist-curators out there--many of whom walk 
the virtual hallowed halls of this forum--that program work in a more 
thematically and interpersonally conscientious manner. 

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[Frameworks] Such Suite Dreams: Week 3

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Hello Frameworkers, 
As we enter week 3 of our Kickstarter campaign, I’d like to point out the 
significant mental health component to our symphony of song and cinema, Whisper 
Rapture: A Bonfire Madigan Suite.
In-between each song, we will hear Icarus Project collective founding member 
Madigan Shive reading from her chapter in the groundbreaking anthology, ‘Live 
Through This: On Creativity and Self-Destruction’. Her story of trauma and 
transformation is the narrative core from which the music will emerge.
Like most of our prior work, Whisper Rapture is fundamentally a social justice 
project that merges art, music, and mental health activism. Your support will 
help us bring healing and hope to communities in need. No donation amount is 
too small, and our thank you gifts are phenomenal! 
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[Frameworks] Final Cut 7 in Mavericks

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Has anyone had any experience editing with Final Cut 7 in Mavericks?

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[Frameworks] Symphony of Song Cinema: Week 2

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Thanks to many of you, our poetic documentary project, Whisper Rapture, 
featuring the music, readings and writings of renowned chamber punk 
cellist-vocalist-activist Madigan Shive is almost 50% funded after the first 
week of our Kickstarter launch! 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/912847805/whisper-rapture-a-bonfire-madigan-suite
 

Please help us bring this transcendent film straight to your hearts by making a 
humble donation today, and forwarding this note to your friends and colleagues 
far and wide.

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[Frameworks] Need One Blue Ray Disc for Screening

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

I'd like to make one blue ray disc for an upcoming screening. Is there anyone 
in San Francisco or the East Baythat can do this very affordably or for a 
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[Frameworks] New Lyrical Doc-Music Hybrid

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Please take just a few minutes to check out my new lyrical documentary-music 
hybrid project, and share as you see fit.   
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/912847805/whisper-rapture-a-bonfire-madigan-suite
Thanks, Ken   ___
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[Frameworks] New Lyrical Doc-Music Hybrid

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Please take just a few minutes to check out my new lyrical documentary-music 
hybrid project, and share as you see 
fit:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/912847805/whisper-rapture-a-bonfire-madigan-suiteMany
 thanks, Ken


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