Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Francisco Torres
It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to jail for
pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova mar...@radonlake.comwrote:

 Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
 impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris Disneyland, I
 think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures and the
 like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real' Snow
 White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character, and
 she was escorted off the grounds.

 I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.

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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Francisco Torres
This is the quote

I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a replica
pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/



-*J. G. Ballard http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to jail for
 pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
 simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova mar...@radonlake.comwrote:

 Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.comwrote:


 Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
 impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris Disneyland, I
 think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures and the
 like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real' Snow
 White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character, and
 she was escorted off the grounds.

 I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.

 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com

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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread David Tetzlaff
 I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a replica 
 pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy Warhol! 

Or evidence for Baudrillard's claim that such coul-be differences don't make a 
difference anymore. Is conceptual art still possible in the Society of the 
Simulacral? Or is all human behavior now conceptual art? The problem with 'The 
Matrix' as cultural commentary is it's assertion that a Red Pill could actually 
exist.

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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Gawthrop, Rob
And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until arrested.
He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

Rob


On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is the quote
 
 I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a replica
 pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
 Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/
 
 
 
 -*J. G. Ballard http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to jail for
 pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
 simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
 mar...@radonlake.comwrote:
 
 Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
 impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris Disneyland, I
 think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures and the
 like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real' Snow
 White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character, and
 she was escorted off the grounds.
 
 I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.
 
 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Francisco Torres
And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until arrested.
He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

In some places (like in my country) you could be killed by the po-lice for
less


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gawthrop, Rob
rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.ukwrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

 Rob


 On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the quote
 
  I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a replica
  pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
  Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/
 
 
 
  -*J. G. Ballard 
 http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to jail
 for
  pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
  simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
  mar...@radonlake.comwrote:
 
  Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
  impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris
 Disneyland, I
  think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures and
 the
  like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real'
 Snow
  White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character,
 and
  she was escorted off the grounds.
 
  I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.
 
  all best,
  Mark Street
  www.markstreetfilms.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Francisco Torres
''The problem with 'The Matrix' as cultural commentary is it's assertion
that a Red Pill could actually exist.''
Hollywood wants us to believe in the red pill and such.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 In some places (like in my country) you could be killed by the po-lice for
 less


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk
  wrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

 Rob


 On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the quote
 
  I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a
 replica
  pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
  Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/
 
 
 
  -*J. G. Ballard 
 http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to jail
 for
  pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
  simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
  mar...@radonlake.comwrote:
 
  Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
  impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris
 Disneyland, I
  think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures
 and the
  like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real'
 Snow
  White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character,
 and
  she was escorted off the grounds.
 
  I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.
 
  all best,
  Mark Street
  www.markstreetfilms.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread john tuzcu
yes francisco!

don't know what country you were referring to, but in amerika if you're
black or brown and doing this kind of thing you would be gunned down
immediately by the cops if racist vigilantes didn't kill you first...


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 In some places (like in my country) you could be killed by the po-lice for
 less


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk
  wrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

 Rob


 On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the quote
 
  I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a
 replica
  pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
  Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/
 
 
 
  -*J. G. Ballard 
 http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to jail
 for
  pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
  simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
  mar...@radonlake.comwrote:
 
  Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
  impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris
 Disneyland, I
  think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures
 and the
  like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real'
 Snow
  White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character,
 and
  she was escorted off the grounds.
 
  I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.
 
  all best,
  Mark Street
  www.markstreetfilms.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread graeme hogg


I wonder, isnt the red pill actually God, from a certain viewpoint, re:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/hollywoods-hidden-hostility-to-atheism.html


''The problem with 'The Matrix' as cultural commentary is it's assertion
that a Red Pill could actually exist.''
Hollywood wants us to believe in the red pill and such.
[cleardot.gif]


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
wrote:
  And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video
  where he
  bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it
  until arrested.
  He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

In some places (like in my country) you could be killed by the po-lice
for less


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gawthrop, Rob
rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk wrote:
  And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen
  video where he
  bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with
  it until arrested.
  He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

  Rob


  On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres
  fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

   This is the quote
  
   I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually,
  to fire a replica
   pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been
  working for Andy
 Warhol!
 http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/



 -*J. G. Ballard
http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres
fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was
sent to jail for
 pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the
ultimate
 simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe
monarch...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
 mar...@radonlake.comwrote:

 Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street
mstreet...@gmail.comwrote:


 Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a
woman
 impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris
Disneyland, I
 think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for
pictures and the
 like until security guards approached and said she wasn't
the 'real' Snow
 White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy
character, and
 she was escorted off the grounds.

 I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.

 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com

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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Francisco Torres
I live in Puerto Rico, according to the US DOJ PR is the US jurisdiction
with the most violent and corrupt police force. Worse than LA or Las Vegas.
The police kills people for jaywalking.

Red Pill -God
Hollywood wants us to believe in God, the free market, the sanctity of
mother hood, patriotism, the purity of childhood, sacred fatherhood, the
virtues of family, the nobility of rebels, etc,etc,etc... ANYTHING as long
as we believe in something.
The moment we stop believing any and all predigested ''ideas'' they will be
history.
Here is a course of action: harden, worsen, accelerate decadence. Adopt
the perspective of active nihilism, exceed the mere recognition-be it
depressive or admiring-of the destruction of all values. Become more and
more incredulous. Push decadence further still and accept, for instance, to
destroy the belief in truth under all its forms. Lyotard


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM, john tuzcu jtu...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes francisco!

 don't know what country you were referring to, but in amerika if you're
 black or brown and doing this kind of thing you would be gunned down
 immediately by the cops if racist vigilantes didn't kill you first...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 In some places (like in my country) you could be killed by the po-lice
 for less


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gawthrop, Rob 
 rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk wrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

 Rob


 On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the quote
 
  I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a
 replica
  pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
  Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/
 
 
 
  -*J. G. Ballard 
 http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres 
 fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to
 jail for
  pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
  simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
  mar...@radonlake.comwrote:
 
  Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
  impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris
 Disneyland, I
  think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures
 and the
  like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the
 'real' Snow
  White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy
 character, and
  she was escorted off the grounds.
 
  I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.
 
  all best,
  Mark Street
  www.markstreetfilms.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-07 Thread Gawthrop, Rob
It was Mexico City


On 07/03/2014 20:11, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 I live in Puerto Rico, according to the US DOJ PR is the US jurisdiction
 with the most violent and corrupt police force. Worse than LA or Las Vegas.
 The police kills people for jaywalking.

 Red Pill -God
 Hollywood wants us to believe in God, the free market, the sanctity of
 mother hood, patriotism, the purity of childhood, sacred fatherhood, the
 virtues of family, the nobility of rebels, etc,etc,etc... ANYTHING as long
 as we believe in something.
 The moment we stop believing any and all predigested ''ideas'' they will be
 history.
 Here is a course of action: harden, worsen, accelerate decadence. Adopt
 the perspective of active nihilism, exceed the mere recognition-be it
 depressive or admiring-of the destruction of all values. Become more and
 more incredulous. Push decadence further still and accept, for instance, to
 destroy the belief in truth under all its forms. Lyotard


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM, john tuzcu jtu...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes francisco!

 don't know what country you were referring to, but in amerika if you're
 black or brown and doing this kind of thing you would be gunned down
 immediately by the cops if racist vigilantes didn't kill you first...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 In some places (like in my country) you could be killed by the po-lice
 for less


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gawthrop, Rob 
 rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk wrote:

 And there was Francis Alys' re-enactments twin screen video where he
 bought a gun and bullets and paraded down the street with it until
 arrested.
 He then re-enacted it with police collaboration.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Ty4TTAX48

 Rob


 On 07/03/2014 15:26, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is the quote

 I thought it was a wonderfully conceptual act actually, to fire a
 replica
 pistol at a figurehead -- the guy could have been working for Andy
 Warhol!  http://www.quoteland.com/quote/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/26948/



 -*J. G. Ballard 
 http://www.quoteland.com/author/J-G-Ballard-Quotes/1637/*


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Francisco Torres 
 fjtorre...@gmail.comwrote:

 It reminds me of JG Ballard commenting on the guy who was sent to
 jail for
 pointing a toy gun at the Queen. Ballard said it was the ultimate
 simulacrum, a make believe attempt on a make believe monarch...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mariya Nikiforova
 mar...@radonlake.comwrote:

 Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman
 impersonated a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris
 Disneyland, I
 think it was Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures
 and the
 like until security guards approached and said she wasn't the
 'real' Snow
 White.  She argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy
 character, and
 she was escorted off the grounds.

 I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.

 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com



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[Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-06 Thread Mark Street
Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman impersonated
a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris Disneyland, I think it was
Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures and the like until
security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real' Snow White.  She
argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character, and she was
escorted off the grounds.

I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.

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Mark Street
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Re: [Frameworks] Disney Paris imposter

2014-03-06 Thread Mariya Nikiforova
Real Snow White by Pilvi Takala!


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Street mstreet...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does anyone know the name of a film (Dutch?) in which a woman impersonated
 a Disney character in the parking lot of Paris Disneyland, I think it was
 Snow White. She greeted children, posed for pictures and the like until
 security guards approached and said she wasn't the 'real' Snow White.  She
 argued:  How can someone be a 'real' fantasy character, and she was
 escorted off the grounds.

 I saw it at EMAF about 5 years ago.

 all best,
 Mark Street
 www.markstreetfilms.com

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