Re: spam

2001-12-23 Thread Riccardo Torrini

On 22-Dec-2001 (22:23:24/GMT) aaron wrote:

[...removed CC: because I suppose all subscribed this list...]


 any address found in the archives is automatically subscribed

Any address found N times (where N  reasonably high number, like
10, because we can not really assume that the archives are clean).


 b) distribute power of moderation (*)

We can adopt Wf2Q+ from Luigi for this  :-)


Riccardo.

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Re: spam

2001-12-23 Thread mikem

my 2 cents worth,

I don't think the effort is worth the reward. If the frequency increases, then
the issue should be revisited. 

If we do decide this problem merits action...

A simple solution would be to restrict posts to subscribers of the lists
(-questions could be an exception). Another simple solution (if we are using
mail filters) is to designate a group of people as spam watchers. When they
spot a spam they forward it to a special addres ( i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]),
which then includes it in some sort of filter recipe.

The disadvantage of such a scheme is that only subsequent spams from the 
poster or containing the same (body|header) are filtered. That is, the spam
gets through to th list the first time. The advantage is that this whole process 
is only triggered when a spam is spotted. The other solutions have the 
disadvantage of being triggered on every post or every post by a non-subscriber.
I would venture to guess that most non-subscriber posts are legitimate. Besides,
most people are too busy to take on moderator roles.

Although this solution obviously provides less than 100% spam free lists, I 
think it will prove itself pretty effective because I've noticed that
most spams get sent to the list more than once-- the recent Linus Torvalds...
spam comes to mind.

Ok, my 2 cents worth has gone on too long :-)

mikem.



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nsswitch with nss daemon and proxy

2001-12-23 Thread Martin Blapp


Hi Jacques,

I've read that you've stopped working on our nsswitch
implememtation. But now that CURRENT has been delayed for
one year, it would be a really good time to finish
your work.

Not only because a working nss_ldap would be a great thing,
also for a working samba winbind. This feature in Samba2.2.2
is working in Linux and Solaris only at the moment. :-((

If I can help you somewhere with your work, just tell me.

Martin

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Re: spam

2001-12-23 Thread Julian Elischer

I meant anyone who is subscribed as a starting point,
and going forwards, anyone referenced in an email and not explicitly
NACK'd


On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Riccardo Torrini wrote:

 On 22-Dec-2001 (22:23:24/GMT) aaron wrote:
 
 [...removed CC: because I suppose all subscribed this list...]
 
 
  any address found in the archives is automatically subscribed
 
 Any address found N times (where N  reasonably high number, like
 10, because we can not really assume that the archives are clean).
 
 
  b) distribute power of moderation (*)
 
 We can adopt Wf2Q+ from Luigi for this  :-)
 
 
 Riccardo.
 
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2001-12-23 Thread Norton Kitagawa

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Logitech iFeel Optical USB Mouse cannot be attached.

2001-12-23 Thread Raman Ng

Hello all,

I have already sent a mail about this problem before. 
I am a newbie of 
FreeBSD.  This time I  attached the dmesg output and
kernel configuration for 
you all.

I am using Asus A7V mb, Athlon 1.1 GHz CPU, 512 Mb
RAM.  Whenever the kernel 
boot up, the message device_probe_and_attach: ums0
attach returned 6.  
Details can refer to the attached detail..  This
problem is similar to PR 
misc/30373 and there is no one handle it at all.  I
have tried FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE, 4.5-PRERELEASE and
5.0-CURRENT (which is cvsup a month ago) and the
problem is still persisted.

I can use this mouse without any problem with Windows
and Linux.  Please give 
me any clue if I can solve this problem.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Raman

--- dmesg output ---
Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,
1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Dec 23 01:55:47 HKT
2001
root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STABLE_DEBUG
Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1109.89-MHz 686-class
CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x642  Stepping = 2
 
Features=0x183f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR
  AMD Features=0xc044b18,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!
real memory  = 536788992 (524208K bytes)
avail memory = 518246400 (506100K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xc0389000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f1750
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: VIA 8363 (Apollo KT133) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge
at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: NVidia model 0110 graphics accelerator at 0.0
irq 11
isab0: VIA 82C686 PCI-ISA bridge at device 4.0 on
pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: VIA 82C686 ATA66 controller port
0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd400-0xd41f
irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0
uhci0: LegSup = 0x003b
uhci_run: setting run=0
uhci_run: done cmd=0x80 sts=0x20
uhci_run: setting run=1
uhci_run: done cmd=0x81 sts=0x0
usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00,
addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd000-0xd01f
irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0
uhci1: LegSup = 0x0010
uhci_run: setting run=0
uhci_run: done cmd=0x80 sts=0x20
uhci_run: setting run=1
uhci_run: done cmd=0x81 sts=0x0
usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00,
addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci_device_request: not done, ii=0xc104f680
uhub2: ALCOR Generic USB Hub, class 9/0, rev
1.10/1.00, addr 2
uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
uhci_device_intr_transfer: not done, ii=0xc104f620
uhci_waitintr: timeout
uhci_idone: error, addr=3, endpt=0x00, status
0x50BABBLE,STALLED
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 01
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 01
ums0: Logitech, Inc. iFeel Mouse, rev 1.00/1.01, addr
3, iclass 3/1
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 074
device_probe_and_attach: ums0 attach returned 6
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 01
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 01
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 04
uhci_waitintr: timeout
usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 04
chip1: VIA 82C686 ACPI interface at device 4.4 on
pci0
rl0: RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX port 0xa400-0xa4ff
mem 0xd580-0xd58000ff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ff:60:0b:b8
miibus0: MII bus on rl0
rlphy0: RealTek internal media interface on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX,
100baseTX-FDX, auto
pcm0: Creative EMU10K1 port 0xa000-0xa01f irq 5 at
device 10.0 on pci0
pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x104c, dev=0x8020) at
13.0 irq 9
atapci1: Promise ATA100 controller port
0x8000-0x803f,0x8400-0x8403,0x8800-0x8807,0x9000-0x9003,0x9400-0x9407
mem 0xd400-0xd401 irq 10 at device 17.0
on pci0
ata2: at 0x9400 on atapci1
ata3: at 0x8800 on atapci1
orm0: Option ROMs at iomem
0xc-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xc,0xd-0xd27ff on
isa0
fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7
irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port
0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
0xa-0xb on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: 

Re: Logitech iFeel Optical USB Mouse cannot be attached.

2001-12-23 Thread Jon Parise

On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 04:43:55AM -0800, Raman Ng wrote:

 I am using Asus A7V mb, Athlon 1.1 GHz CPU, 512 Mb
 RAM.  Whenever the kernel 
 boot up, the message device_probe_and_attach: ums0
 attach returned 6.  
 Details can refer to the attached detail..  This
 problem is similar to PR 
 misc/30373 and there is no one handle it at all.  I
 have tried FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE, 4.5-PRERELEASE and
 5.0-CURRENT (which is cvsup a month ago) and the
 problem is still persisted.
 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/30373

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Minimal patch for -CURRENT to build

2001-12-23 Thread David Wolfskill

Please note that I am taking no position regarding whether Matt's sio
changes should remain or be backed out.

That said, the following was the minimal change I found necessary to
get today's -CURRENT to build:

Index: sio.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/src/sys/dev/sio/sio.c,v
retrieving revision 1.356
diff -u -r1.356 sio.c
--- sio.c   23 Dec 2001 02:48:25 -  1.356
+++ sio.c   23 Dec 2001 16:24:20 -
@@ -2168,7 +2168,7 @@
 * without producing silo overflow errors.
 */
com-fifo_image = t-c_ospeed = 4800
- ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | FIFO_RX_MEDHI;
+ ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | FIFO_RX_MEDH;
 #ifdef COM_ESP
/*
 * The Hayes ESP card needs the fifo DMA mode bit set


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Re: spam

2001-12-23 Thread Thomas Hurst

* mikem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I don't think the effort is worth the reward. If the frequency
 increases, then the issue should be revisited.

 If we do decide this problem merits action...

How about filtering list messages through spamassassin?  Anything that
matches can get bounced so false positivies get noticed and spammers
remove it from the list cos it appears inactive.

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Re: Minimal patch for -CURRENT to build

2001-12-23 Thread Matthew Dillon


:Please note that I am taking no position regarding whether Matt's sio
:changes should remain or be backed out.
:
:That said, the following was the minimal change I found necessary to
:get today's -CURRENT to build:

Ha!  My original commit was correct.  My bruce-backout commit was
flawed.  Wonderful.  What do we do now?

-Matt

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Re: Logitech iFeel Optical USB Mouse cannot be attached.

2001-12-23 Thread Doug White

Dropping -stable crosspost.

For those of you with this mouse -- we really need the output of 'usbdevs
-v' with the mouse attached.

I'm betting that this isn't a standard USB mouse and requires a special,
proprietary driver. :(

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Slow performance of a recent -current/X

2001-12-23 Thread Andrei Popov

Not sure whether this better belongs to -current or -questions...
 
The situation is like this: I run a recent current (cvsup'ed on Fri Dec 21)
with drm (0.9.4).  X 4.1.0_10 has been compiled locally with Matrox drivers
from Matrox site (1.4.3, to match X4.1.x).  This has also been done around  
the same time as the last cvsup.
 
Hardware-wise the machine is a dual Celleron-500 A-Bit BP-6 with 256Mb RAM.
Hard drives are IBM DTLA-307020 and Western Digital AC14200R.  IBM is not
used in DMA mode (never works -- kernel resets a device a few times
after read failures then freezes), but in PIO.  Graphics is Matrox MGA450 with
64Mb VRAM, AGP.

The problem is that now, at somewhat sporadic intervals, the machine behaves
like a drunken monkey -- in X cursor would suddenly perform with a 'delayed'
effect -- slowly following a trajectory it was supposed to draw in no time,
windows refresh (especially window decorations) with a noticable delay.

This never happened before, and I am somewhat at a loss trying to pin point
the cause of it.  vmstat(8) has not shown anything particularly interesting,
top(1) does not help either...

Therfore this mail -- has anybody seen similar behavior?  I would suspect the
hard drive (IBM), but swap is barely used and there's next to no  hard drive
activity in many cases when I saw this...  I've also heard that Matrox is
not behaving too well under FreeBSD -- but there were no problems before.

Thanks for comments/suggestions  please reply to my email address, as I am 
not on -questions.

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Re: Minimal patch for -CURRENT to build

2001-12-23 Thread Gerhard Sittig

On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 09:57 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
 
 [ the sio.c FIFO commit ]
 
 Ha!  My original commit was correct.  My bruce-backout commit was
 flawed.  Wonderful.  What do we do now?

Correct the patch to switch between 14 and 8 bytes trigger level
while leaving the default at 14 (the previous behaviour) and
providing a sysctl to lower it to 8 -- and maybe point to the
sysctl in the overflow printf.

This would leave the cannary for increased latency intact.  It
will continue to work if latency is (again) where it's meant to
be.  It will cause as little interrupt load as necessary for
the regular case.  Plus it will make those setups bitten by
the overflow work without recompiling a kernel (read even
problematic cases work out of the box with a one line addition
to /etc/sysctl.conf).

What else could one want?  I understand that the extra cost of
a sysctl applies only when querying or setting it.  Referencing
the value is just a normal variable access.  Please tell me if
I'm wrong.


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21 in /bin/sh

2001-12-23 Thread KT Sin

Just ran make world this morning and 21 fd redirection stopped working
for /bin/sh.

$ ls /bad/file  /dev/null 21
ls: /bad/file: No such file or directory

21 is used extensively in the /etc/rc* bootup scripts. Now, the bootup
screen is cluttered with unwanted messages.

Any idea?

kt

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Re: 21 in /bin/sh

2001-12-23 Thread Mike Barcroft

KT Sin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Just ran make world this morning and 21 fd redirection stopped working
 for /bin/sh.
 
 $ ls /bad/file  /dev/null 21
 ls: /bad/file: No such file or directory
 
 21 is used extensively in the /etc/rc* bootup scripts. Now, the bootup
 screen is cluttered with unwanted messages.
 
 Any idea?

AFAIK, this was fixed.  Check the commit logs for sh(1).

Best regards,
Mike Barcroft

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Re: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libutil.so.3: Undefinedsymbol __stdoutp

2001-12-23 Thread M. Warner Losh

: Warner, could you please add __stdoutp to the 20010919 entry, and
: a hint to put COMPAT4X=true to /etc/make.conf to the 20010924 entry?

Done.

Warner

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Re: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libutil.so.3: Undefinedsymbol __stdoutp

2001-12-23 Thread M. Warner Losh

 Warner, could you please add __stdoutp to the 20010919 entry, and
 a hint to put COMPAT4X=true to /etc/make.conf to the 20010924 entry?

Actually, you only need the first one.  You don't need COMPAT4X=true
all the time, so I'm a little reluctant to include that.  Lemme know
how I can improve what I just committed.

Warner

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Re: Dropping bsd.man.mk support from bsd.kmod.mk

2001-12-23 Thread M. Warner Losh

 I'd like to drop bsd.man.mk support from bsd.kmod.mk,
 because I was told by someone (peter?) that this is
 the right direction.  :-)

We use it slightly at Timing Solutions, but it is more of a pain than
a blessing.  More of our module Makefiles have NOMAN than don't, by a
wide margin.

Warner

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