General bridging information
Hi, I had bridge_cfg set to xl0:0,vmnet1:0 and bridge to 1 on 4.5-STABLE and it was working fine, but the only problem I had was that I couldn't ping my FreeBSD's xl0 IP from the vmware/win2k, both OSes were unable to talk to eachother using any protocol. (AFAIK..) Now on 4.7 bridge_cfg is null and ether.bridge=0, my vmware is working AND also able to see my xl0 IP. I recently noticed that the netgraph control utility creates a node at startup by the vmware.sh script; ngctl list: Name: ngctl545Type: socket ID: 000f Num hooks: 0 Name: vmnet_bridgeType: bridge ID: 0004 Num hooks: 3 Name: vmnet1 Type: ether ID: 0002 Num hooks: 1 Name: xl0 Type: ether ID: 0001 Num hooks: 2 My questions is: was my routing problem between the two OSes caused by this? and was I conflicting the bridge in anyway by linking it manually (xl0:0,vmnet1:0) while it was controlled by netgraph? thanks, Ed. -- Edmond Baroud UNIX Systems Admin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint 140F 5FD5 3FDD 45D9 226D 9602 8C3D EAFB 4E19 BEF9 UNIX is very user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Problems with a C application that changes users and run 'screen -x'
You're not running the executable as `root'. Since you are not the superuser, you do not have permissions to operate on the pseudo-tty that login attempts to work with, and this is why you get the following error message: This is as I expected. And I dont know of a way to get around it. Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check. Three possibilities that you might wish to investigate further are: 1. Write a shell script that does the equivalent of the system() call you are using now. This should be fairly easy and will work fine if you execute the script from a root shell. I dont think that this will work. The super-user has nothing to do with the process that needs to be run. The user that logs in is not privliged, and the account that he is becomming is not privlidged either. 2. Fix your program by removing the bad use of `'. Done. Thanks for the comment on this. I noticed a warning from g++ about this today. 3. Avoid using system() which I vaguely recall being described with a lot of bad words in various places and use fork(), exec(), _exit(), waitpid() and exit() instead. How would I do this with exec. According to the man page for exec I have only a few options. int execl(const char *path, const char *arg, ...); int execlp(const char *file, const char *arg, ...); int execle(const char *path, const char *arg, ...); int exect(const char *path, char *const argv[], char *const envp[]); int execv(const char *path, char *const argv[]); int execvp(const char *file, char *const argv[]); Can you point me to the right documentation to learn about the exec functions provided by unistd.h? Allthough I am not familiar with unistd.h at all, I did do a little bit of expermentation. Here is my new code: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include unistd.h int main(int argc, char* pszArgs[]) { int result, result2; result= execlp(/usr/bin/su, ppp, -m); result2=execlp(/usr/local/bin/screen, -x); return result + result2; } bash-2.05$ g++ run-ppp.c bash-2.05$ ./a.out bash-2.05$ I am a little supprised that nothing appeared to have happened. Perhaps I am running these improperly. Am I using the correct exec command? Can you demonstrate how this should work? What else could execlp(args) needs to say? - Giorgos Thanks for your time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
FIXED: fdisk and HD's larger than 2GB
Would you believe it was a jumper on the HD that was causing all the problems. The HD is setup as the primary IDE master, but the jumper settings on the HD were not configured as such. Once the correct jumper settings were in place fdisk behaved normally. I'd like to add that I bought the PC as is from a friend, and so figured this kind of thing would already have been sorted. I won't make that kind of assumption again. So the good news is that I now have more than 2G to play with. The bad news is that seeing as I installed an OS while the jumpers were not configured correctly, this seems to have corrupted sections of the disk. So be warned: make sure your HD jumper settings are correct for the HD's position! Regards Dg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Problems with a C application that changes users and run 'screen-x'
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Aaron Burke wrote: 3. Avoid using system() which I vaguely recall being described with a lot of bad words in various places and use fork(), exec(), _exit(), waitpid() and exit() instead. How would I do this with exec. According to the man page for exec I have only a few options. int execl(const char *path, const char *arg, ...); int execlp(const char *file, const char *arg, ...); int execle(const char *path, const char *arg, ...); int exect(const char *path, char *const argv[], char *const envp[]); int execv(const char *path, char *const argv[]); int execvp(const char *file, char *const argv[]); Can you point me to the right documentation to learn about the exec functions provided by unistd.h? Allthough I am not familiar with unistd.h at all, I did do a little bit of expermentation. Here is my new code: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include unistd.h int main(int argc, char* pszArgs[]) { int result, result2; result= execlp(/usr/bin/su, ppp, -m); result2=execlp(/usr/local/bin/screen, -x); return result + result2; } bash-2.05$ g++ run-ppp.c bash-2.05$ ./a.out bash-2.05$ I am a little supprised that nothing appeared to have happened. Perhaps I am running these improperly. Am I using the correct exec command? Can you demonstrate how this should work? What else could execlp(args) needs to say? - Giorgos Thanks for your time. I think execlp is writing over your current process. So first your process is exchanged with ppp, then ppp is exchanged with screen. You have to make a copy of your current process, a.out, by using fork, and then exchange the process image in this copy using execlp. I suggest you read more about those functions Giorgos mentioned: fork, execlp, waitpid, and exit. Best regards, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with P
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:03:25 +0200 From: Asker [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do you think about changing GENERIC or just the kernel in installation floppies in the future releases of FreeBSD? I think it will be very useful because ADSL (therefore PPPoE protocol) is very frequent method of connecting with Internet Service Provider in our days. ADSL doesn't necessarily mean PPPoE. At least here in Estonia PPPoE seems to be on its way out and the bulk of ISPs providing ADSL use just Ethernet without any PPP. P.S. FTP installation use much less internet traffic than 4 huge ISO files' downloading. There is no need to download 4 huge ISO files. All you really need is the one mini-ISO, ca 200 MB. -- Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Those who can't write, write manuals. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
ports upgrade
Hello! If I cvsup'd ports what will I need in order to make my new ports to work? I mean I should make a buildworld? Thanks! -- Iulian ROMTELECOM. OM Network. IN Management Center To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: starting ppp on boot up
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:47:33PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 06:59:18AM +, P. U. Kruppa wrote: Hi! I have a well working user ppp configuration, which I run manually by # ppp -nat -ddial adsl What is the simpliest way to start this automatically on boot up? By adding the following lines into your /etc/rc.conf: ppp_enable=YES ppp_mode=ddial ppp_profiles=adsl You might want ppp_nat=YES in there as well Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Problems with a C application that changes users and run 'screen-x'
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Paul Everlund wrote: Found an error in my reply... On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Aaron Burke wrote: [big snip] I think execlp is writing over your current process. So first your process is exchanged with ppp, then ppp is exchanged with screen. You have to make a copy of your current process, a.out, by using fork, and then exchange the process image in this copy using execlp. Correction... Your a.out process is replaced with ppp, then nothing else happens, as screen never is called du to the replacement. Best regards, Paul Best regards, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: ports upgrade
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 18:11:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! If I cvsup'd ports what will I need in order to make my new ports to work? I mean I should make a buildworld? no you wont just installs portupgrade (ports/sysutils/portupgrade), and then run portupgrade -R your_port_name -- char*p=char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);};main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} -- Anonymous msg12690/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ports upgrade
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:11:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! If I cvsup'd ports what will I need in order to make my new ports to work? I mean I should make a buildworld? Thanks! You will often be able to build most or all of your new ports without building the world, because cvsup-ing has updated the ports skeletons. However, occasionally an updated port will depend on something in your system having been updated, so building world would be necessary to avoid breakage. Therefore, unless building the world would be a problem (takes too long, don't want to take the machine offline, etc.), doing so avoids any potential difficulty. -- Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: /etc/mail/access list to DENY spam?
I found this ironic: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 20 05:25:11 2002 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 04:20:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Fri, 20 Dec 2002 04:20:19 -0800 (PST) from mx2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.225] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 5.0.0 We brook zero SPAM) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: OOPS....Re: ipf - IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK ...This is not working as predicted! Help?
--- Fernando Gleiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Keith Spencer wrote: sorry guys the copy paste mucked up on me... Here is the full rule set I am using... But the questions I sent in my previous mail remain unanswered. post the answers and maybe I can tell what's wrong. #ifdef WILDGUESS if you are using user ppp, the outside interface is tun0, *not* ed0 if that is the case, change ed0 into tun0 in the rules, reload and tell me if that works #endif OK Guys...sorry to be a pain but here goes Thanks Keith +IPF.RULES + # # Outside Interface # # # Allow out all TCP, UDP, and ICMP traffic keep state on it # so that it's allowed back in. # # If you wanted to do egress filtering...here's where you'd do it. # You'd change the lines below so that rather than allowing out any # arbitrary TCP connection, it would only allow out mail, pop3, and http # connections (for example). So, the first line, below, would be # replaced with: # pass out quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 keep state # pass out quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = 110 keep state # pass out quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 keep state # ...and then do the same for the remaining lines so that you allow # only specified protocols/ports 'out' of your network # pass out quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any keep state pass out quick on tun0 proto udp from any to any keep state pass out quick on tun0 proto icmp from any to any keep state block out quick on tun0 all #--- # Block all inbound traffic from non-routable or reserved address spaces #--- block in log quick on tun0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in log quick on tun0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in log quick on tun0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in log quick on tun0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback block in log quick on tun0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback block in log quick on tun0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any #DHCP auto-config block in log quick on tun0 from 192.0.2.0/24 to any #reserved for doc's block in log quick on tun0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any #Sun cluster interconnect block in quick on tun0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any #Class D E multicast # # Allow bootp traffic in from your ISP's DHCP server only. # #pass in quick on tun0 proto udp from X.X.X.X/32 to any port = 68 keep state # # If you wanted to set up a web server or mail server on your box # (which is outside the scope of this howto), or allow another system # on the Internet to externally SSH into your firewall, you'd want to # uncomment the following lines and modify as appropriate. If you # have other services running that you need to allow external access # to, just add more lines using these as examples. # # If the services are on a box on your internal network (rather than # the firewall itself), you'll have to add both the filter listed below, # plus a redirect rule in your /etc/ipnat.rules file. # pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state keep frags #pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from X.X.X.X/32 to any port = 22 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to 203.36.104.241 port = 2 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to 203.36.104.241 port = 22 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on tun0 proto udp from any to 203.36.104.241 port = 22 keep state pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = 443 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on tun0 proto udp from any to any port = 443 keep state pass in quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to 203.36.104.241 port = 3306 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on tun0 proto udp from any to 203.36.104.241 port = 3306 keep state # # Block and log all remaining traffic coming into the firewall # - Block TCP with a RST (to make it appear as if the service # isn't listening) # - Block UDP with an ICMP Port Unreachable (to make it appear # as if the service isn't listening) # - Block all remaining traffic the good 'ol fashioned way
Re: OOPS....Re: ipf - IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK ...This is not working as predicted! Help?
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-20 23:28:01 +1100: --- Fernando Gleiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Keith Spencer wrote: your MUA screws the message text. get a better one. sorry guys the copy paste mucked up on me... Here is the full rule set I am using... OK Guys...sorry to be a pain but here goes Thanks Keith ... # # Allow out all TCP, UDP, and ICMP traffic keep state on it # so that it's allowed back in. it's wrapped againg. get a better MUA or place the ruleset on web, and post the url -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is a pps file?
On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 11:37:02PM -0500, David Banning wrote: Someone from the Netherlands sent me a pps file. Anyone know what type of file that is? Powerpoint Slideshow format. Grrr... Yeuch! -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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Re: Running X-clients on remote hosts.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:44:17AM +0100, dick hoogendijk wrote: How to make X listen on the network depends on how you start the X server. If you use startx(1), then you just need to invoke it as: startx -listen_tcp Hmm, well, this definately does not work for me ;-/ So, what happens if you try and start X listening on the network? What version of XFree86 do you have installed? You need at least XFree86-clients-4.2.0_1 according to my reading of the CVS logs: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/Makefile?rev=1.96content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup It should be pretty obvious if your startx(1) understands the -listen_tcp flag just by reading the script. Of course, if it doesn't understand the -listen_tcp flag then it probably defaults to listening on the network anyhow. What does: netstat -an | grep '\.60[0-9][0-9]' or sockstat | grep ':60[0-9][0-9]' return? How about: ps -axwww | grep /usr/X11R6/bin/X You need for something to be listening at about port 6000+n (where n is zero or more, but usually less than 20) in order to have any hope of running X over the network. If X *is* listening for network connections, then I'd start looking at firewall rulesets or the like to discover what's blocking the traffic. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Mounting XP partition
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:37:53PM +0200, Wayne Swart wrote: Hi everyone, me again :) I have mounted a ntfs(WinXP) partition on my freebsd box, but i am unable to write anything to it? Any ideas? Check the WRITING section of man mount_ntfs. There are limits on writing to NTFS. Thanks Wayne To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
chown broken??
Hello I just hosed one of my boxes by recursively setting all my file permissions incorrectly: $ su $ cd /data $ chown -R andrew:wheel * $ chown -R andrew:wheel .* For some reason the last command was interpreted as: $ chown -R andrew:wheel /* I just cvsuped to 4.7 a few days ago, still running 4.7-RELEASE GENERIC kernel. Why does the behaviour of chown change when u r root? Surely this is a bug? And what the hell is this crap in the man page about -R: -R Change the user ID and/or the group ID for the file hierarchies rooted in the files instead of just the files themselves. As always, any assistance is appreciated! Cheers, -- Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:22:32AM +1100, Andrew Cutler wrote: Hello I just hosed one of my boxes by recursively setting all my file permissions incorrectly: $ su $ cd /data $ chown -R andrew:wheel * $ chown -R andrew:wheel .* That matches ... Ceri -- My ancestors help the bold sons! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
Hi, On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:22:32AM +1100, Andrew Cutler wrote: I just hosed one of my boxes by recursively setting all my file permissions incorrectly: $ su $ cd /data $ chown -R andrew:wheel * This is all ok. $ chown -R andrew:wheel .* This isn't. For some reason the last command was interpreted as: $ chown -R andrew:wheel /* No, it was interpreted by your shell as: # chown -R andrew:wheel . .. .foo .bar other files starting with . Note the second entry, '..'. This translates to the directory above the one you are rooted in, as usual. In effect you recursively chown'ed every directory on your system, just as you asked. Why does the behaviour of chown change when u r root? It doesn't, only when you try this as a normal user you don't have the permissions to change ownership of /. Surely this is a bug? No, it isn't. And what the hell is this crap in the man page about -R: -R Change the user ID and/or the group ID for the file hierarchies rooted in the files instead of just the files themselves. It is another way of saying that chown will update ownership recursively, although I admit it is worded rather badly. HTH, --Stijn -- I really hate this damned machine I wish that they would sell it. It never does quite what I want But only what I tell it. msg12708/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: starting ppp on boot up
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Scott Mitchell wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:47:33PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 06:59:18AM +, P. U. Kruppa wrote: Hi! I have a well working user ppp configuration, which I run manually by # ppp -nat -ddial adsl What is the simpliest way to start this automatically on boot up? By adding the following lines into your /etc/rc.conf: ppp_enable=YES ppp_mode=ddial ppp_profiles=adsl You might want ppp_nat=YES in there as well In the meantime I found # man and copied/edited this - working - /usr/local/etc/rc.d - script: --- #!/bin/sh - # #initialization/shutdown script for pppd case $1 in start) /usr/sbin/ppp -nat -ddial adsl echo -n ' pppd' ;; stop) kill `cat /var/run/foo.pid` echo -n ' pppd' ;; *) echo unknown option: $1 - should be 'start' or 'stop' 2 ;; esac -- Does this do anything substantially different to your idea? Uli. *---* *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *---* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
I realise that now, but why does chown not ignore the match since most other commands simply return? . is a directory -- ignored .. is a directory -- ignored This inconsistency is not logical. On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 00:26, Ceri Davies wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:22:32AM +1100, Andrew Cutler wrote: Hello I just hosed one of my boxes by recursively setting all my file permissions incorrectly: $ su $ cd /data $ chown -R andrew:wheel * $ chown -R andrew:wheel .* That matches ... Ceri -- Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:36:36AM +1100, Andrew Cutler wrote: I realise that now, but why does chown not ignore the match since most other commands simply return? . is a directory -- ignored .. is a directory -- ignored This inconsistency is not logical. It is not inconsistent, the -R flag has told it to wend it's way through the directory hierarchy. And chown unadorned can change the ownerships of a directory as well. Maybe you want a flag that own recurses down the hierarchy and not up it ... ? Anyway the behaviour is consistent with other system commands that take a recursion flag (cp for example). Remember, sympathy is not abundant when mistakes are made as root .. since we have all been there .. :) or :( .. depending on your point of view. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
Thus spake Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I realise that now, but why does chown not ignore the match since most other commands simply return? . is a directory -- ignored .. is a directory -- ignored This inconsistency is not logical. rm makes a special case for '.' and '..' specifically to avoid this kind of foot-shooting. It gets away with it because it doesn't make much sense to remove your current directory, much less its parent. Unfortunately, you can't really do the same thing for chown because people sometimes do say 'chown -R foo .' and really mean it. Since the '.*' is expanded by the shell, chown has no way of knowing what was really meant. (BTW, the example I gave shows you how to do what you were trying to do, without the problems you ran into.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On 21 Dec 2002, Andrew Cutler wrote: I realise that now, but why does chown not ignore the match since most other commands simply return? . is a directory -- ignored .. is a directory -- ignored This inconsistency is not logical. It is not inconsistenct. chown can operate on directories. '.' and '..' are just like any other directory on the system. Fer To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-21 00:59:24 +1100: So without further embarrassment, does anyone have any idea on what is the quickest and easiest way to correct the file ownership issues that I'm currently experiencing ? restore from backup. if you don't backup, then reinstall. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:59:24AM +1100, Andrew Cutler wrote: Thanks for everyone's quick responses. I'm not going to delve any deeper as to why chown, chmod etc match .. for .* when other commands do not. I'm sure this is ground that has been covered many times before. And I'm sure its the sort of mistake that you only make once. (In fact now that I think about it I'm sure there is a discussion of this issue in FreeBSD Unleashed/SAMS) And in starting this thread I feel like I've just committed some sort of UNIX newbie fopar. :) So without further embarrassment, does anyone have any idea on what is the quickest and easiest way to correct the file ownership issues that I'm currently experiencing ? mtree -U [insert other options here] Ceri -- May the ire of my ancestors bring your last day! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
- Original Message - From: Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: chown broken?? Hello I just hosed one of my boxes by recursively setting all my file permissions incorrectly: $ su $ cd /data $ chown -R andrew:wheel * $ chown -R andrew:wheel .* For some reason the last command was interpreted as: $ chown -R andrew:wheel /* Nope; the recursion includes .. here: / in your case, as others already pointed out. I must say, though, that while I understand this behaviour, one can argue on what exactly recursive is to mean here. Intuitively, the definition of the current sub-directory and all sub-directories below the current directory (and that for each subdirectory) seems the correct one. Which would exclude .., as this is not a sub-directory of the current directory, but the parent. But this behavior is not inconsistent; try cp -R .*, and you will find it does the same. :) - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:12:17PM +0100, Mark wrote: I must say, though, that while I understand this behaviour, one can argue on what exactly recursive is to mean here. Intuitively, the definition of the current sub-directory and all sub-directories below the current directory (and that for each subdirectory) seems the correct one. Which would exclude .., as this is not a sub-directory of the current directory, but the parent. Not really. It recurses through the directories named on the command line, of which '..' happens to be one. Ceri -- By Moradin, I shall avenge the devastation of my beards! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
help me plz
We are living in Pakistan we went to almost all specialist Doctors related to Fatmia's problems but Doctors suggest us to take Fatmia abroad for treatment we tried are best since she was one Day old. her first Doctor was Dr. G.A. Shah (Ortho). Know she is 10 years old during 10 years we consult about her to all senior Doctors available in Pakistan but no one suggest that her treatment is available here we worked for her treatment by near our country like Russia, India etc, but we didnt received encouraging response form these Countries. I tried on Email for my child treatment and hopping so that institute and people like yours can help us. Because it is a matter of humanity by your effort one could live healthy life which is a gift of God and I thing when the world is such advance my child has a right to live like other healthy child and it is not only the parents duty its a duty of institute and people like yours. Who are working for such kind of patients? It is a duty of humanity its a duty of every person who have a loving heart. My child is 10 know and we have very little time for her treatment. She is a baby child and I have to face so many feminine problems in near further. I want to tell you one thing that in our Country the basic needs like Pamper of her age are not available. I request you to plz help me in favor of her treatment being mother its my request to all the world for help. A MOTHER. ISHRAT TARIQ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FIXED: fdisk and HD's larger than 2GB
At 11:18 AM 12.20.2002 +, David Gethings wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 11:15, Laszlo Vagner wrote: western digital is notorious for that, what brand are you using? just curious. Maxtor something-or-other. Dg Beware of Quantum Fireballs -- bought two of the 40GBers and the jumpers would NOT work properly -- according to the BIOS on several different machines tried. Had to do the opposite of the diagrams for mastering, but slaves would NOT work period on either one. One died after a couple of months -- brand new! Moved the survivor to a less-important machine to do test routine duties -- peeling potatoes and shelling peas! Never again Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
- Original Message - From: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: chown broken?? On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:12:17PM +0100, Mark wrote: I must say, though, that while I understand this behaviour, one can argue on what exactly recursive is to mean here. Intuitively, the definition of the current sub-directory and all sub-directories below the current directory (and that for each subdirectory) seems the correct one. Which would exclude .., as this is not a sub-directory of the current directory, but the parent. Not really. It recurses through the directories named on the command line, of which '..' happens to be one. Yes, the directories named on the command line within the CURRENT directory. Technically, . and .. are entries within the current directory (try: od -c .), and they have inode numbers too. But that does not deter me from deeming it a bit counter-intuitive to consider .. a directory of the current directory. :) Especially in the context of recursion. - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Mounting XP partition
Hi everyone, me again :) I have mounted a ntfs(WinXP) partition on my freebsd box, but i am unable to write anything to it? My understanding is that is the current state of ntfs support. You can read from, but not write to ntfs slices. I don't know if writing ability is being worked on. jerry Any ideas? Thanks Wayne To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:48:41PM +0100, Mark wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:12:17PM +0100, Mark wrote: I must say, though, that while I understand this behaviour, one can argue on what exactly recursive is to mean here. Intuitively, the definition of the current sub-directory and all sub-directories below the current directory (and that for each subdirectory) seems the correct one. Which would exclude .., as this is not a sub-directory of the current directory, but the parent. Not really. It recurses through the directories named on the command line, of which '..' happens to be one. Yes, the directories named on the command line within the CURRENT directory. Technically, . and .. are entries within the current directory (try: od -c .), and they have inode numbers too. But that does not deter me from deeming it a bit counter-intuitive to consider .. a directory of the current directory. :) Especially in the context of recursion. You're saying that chown -R 700 /tmp doesn't work then ? Ceri -- Face the fire of a 250 pound woman! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Mounting XP partition
Jerry McAllister said: Hi everyone, me again :) I have mounted a ntfs(WinXP) partition on my freebsd box, but i am unable to write anything to it? My understanding is that is the current state of ntfs support. You can read from, but not write to ntfs slices. I don't know if writing ability is being worked on. You can write to... smbfs allows full rw capability. I run a backup job on my linux/freebsd servers every night and back the resultant tars up on my windows xp box via smbfs mount. Works like a charm. Anthony To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: starting ppp on boot up
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:31:20PM +, P. U. Kruppa wrote: In the meantime I found # man and copied/edited this - working - /usr/local/etc/rc.d - script: --- #!/bin/sh - # #initialization/shutdown script for pppd case $1 in start) /usr/sbin/ppp -nat -ddial adsl echo -n ' pppd' ;; stop) kill `cat /var/run/foo.pid` echo -n ' pppd' ;; *) echo unknown option: $1 - should be 'start' or 'stop' 2 ;; esac -- Does this do anything substantially different to your idea? No -- I expect that the command line actually executed will be the same in either case. I guess the advantage of the script is that you have the 'stop' option as well, which you don't get with rc.conf. On the other hand, it's one more script you have to maintain. Personally I'd go with the rc.conf variables and use pppctl to shut down the daemon if I ever needed to, but I think it's down to personal preference at this point. Cheers, Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
please don't cc me, I'll pick up your reply from the list. # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-20 12:39:31 -0300: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote: apart from what others said about wildcard substitution: roman@freepuppy /usr 1005:1 ls -l .* zsh: no matches found: .* roman@freepuppy /usr 1006:1 zsh (at least with my settings) would protect you from yourself in this situation. And will prevent you from doing it when you really need it :) any problem with this? cd .. chmod -R . zsh's behavior actually allows you to chmod only dotfils/dotdirs: roman@freepuppy ~/tmp 1013:0 echo .* .htaccess .mail .vim roman@freepuppy ~/tmp 1014:0 -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote: any problem with this? cd .. chmod -R . zsh's behavior actually allows you to chmod only dotfils/dotdirs: roman@freepuppy ~/tmp 1013:0 echo .* .htaccess .mail .vim roman@freepuppy ~/tmp 1014:0 Because zsh's * never matches a dot at the begining. I am used to sh's semantics, I know what * expands to, and proceed acording to that. Fer -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
41upgrade.tgz and 42upgrade.tgz gone??
Has anyone seen: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/Latest/41upgr ade.tgz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/Latest/42upgr ade.tgz These files appear to have disappeared. Can someone tell me where they are? I wanted the latest ones to go with the entire 4x stable ports collection. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly as I'm not on the list. Thanks! Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
IPX and ppp0 (tun0)
Hello guys, I wonna know is it possible to send ipx frames trough the tun0 interface. Indeed I need to bind my local network through the leased line to another LAN where is a Nowell NetWare 4.11. I can't use pure IP, only IPX over IP, coz soft wich I should use on the NetWare works only with IPX :( Any ideas? -- Best regards, uzzver21 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Changing console refresh rate
This is getting quiet frustrating :-) I don't want to use X, because I like to use my lovely console :) Plus I'm only on a P233. I've compiled SC_PIXEL_MODE into my kernel, which means I can use vidcontrol to set the resolution to 800x600. Fantastic! Well, almost. When this happens, my video refresh rate drops to from 70Hz (at the default 640x400) to 60Hz. I've found a hack to vesa.c that switches the mode to 1024x768, grabs the refresh rate (100Hz) then switchs to 800x600 and applies it. This is a big messy, plus my monitor only just supports 100Hz. Does anyone know how I can set the *refresh rate* of the console, instead of having to live with the graphics card's default for that resolution? I'm sure it might be possible, I can't find anything about it though. Please help !! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Tape Backup
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:33:11AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: If your usage justifies the cost, you might want to consider DLT or LTO type drives. They handle the load with less failure and higher capacity and data rates. I'm using Sony AIT-2 and it works great. The benefit of using AIT is that you don't need to clean your tape drive at all, and it also in a continuous development with AIT-3 has been launched (100/200 capacity). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: problem with installing new ports
please let me know if i MUST hold a connection to the internet during the installations.if so, is there a way to avoid that connection? Download the tarball into /usr/ports/distfiles. Then do # cd /usr/ports/audio/mpeg123 # make all install clean To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: starting ppp on boot up
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Scott Mitchell wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:31:20PM +, P. U. Kruppa wrote: In the meantime I found # man and copied/edited this - working - /usr/local/etc/rc.d - script: --- #!/bin/sh - # #initialization/shutdown script for pppd case $1 in start) /usr/sbin/ppp -nat -ddial adsl echo -n ' pppd' ;; stop) kill `cat /var/run/foo.pid` echo -n ' pppd' ^^^ Thanks Scott, now that you explained what this thing should do I found out that it should be kill ... /tun*.pid ... Uli. ;; *) echo unknown option: $1 - should be 'start' or 'stop' 2 ;; esac -- Does this do anything substantially different to your idea? No -- I expect that the command line actually executed will be the same in either case. I guess the advantage of the script is that you have the 'stop' option as well, which you don't get with rc.conf. On the other hand, it's one more script you have to maintain. Personally I'd go with the rc.conf variables and use pppctl to shut down the daemon if I ever needed to, but I think it's down to personal preference at this point. Cheers, Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message *---* *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *---* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: problem with installing new ports
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:23:01AM -0800 Ali Nasseh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i run freebsd 4.5 stable and when i try to install a new port like mpg123 it fails. my command to system and it's response is here: [...] mpg123-0.59r-pl1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. This is an important directory for ports! mpg123-0.59r-pl1.tar.gz is the name of the tarball it cannot find. Attempting to fetch from http://www.mpg123.de/mpg123/. Attempting to fetch from http://www-ti.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/~hippm/mpg123/. Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/unix/audio/mpg123/. Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/unix/audio/mpg123/. Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/mpg123. *** Error code 1 [...] please let me know if i MUST hold a connection to the internet during the installations.if so, is there a way to avoid that connection? Um, yes, you do need to be connected, unless you already have the required tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles. --thank you for any help Your ports system was trying to remotely fetch a mpg123 tarball. (There are several tarballs here, actually, since there are patches to apply.) It couldn't find one at the proper revision level (4.5-stable will be a little behind the times, probably). All you need to do is find the proper version of mpg123 from an ftp site somewhere and copy it to /usr/ports/distfiles. step 1: cat /usr/ports/audio/mpg123/distinfo. | sed 's/^.*(\(.*\)).*$/\1/g' This should return about four filenames. step 2: google search for the exact tarball name uncovered from the previous command. It should be found at http://www.mpg123.de/cgi-bin/sitexplorer.cgi?/mpg123/ step 3: copy said tarballs to /usr/ports/distfiles and try making the port again. Also, see the handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook/) and read the chapter about the ports system. -- David S. Jackson[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them is a match. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FIXED: fdisk and HD's larger than 2GB
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:29:56 -0600, Jack L. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 11:18 AM 12.20.2002 +, David Gethings wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 11:15, Laszlo Vagner wrote: western digital is notorious for that, what brand are you using? just curious. Maxtor something-or-other. Dg Beware of Quantum Fireballs -- bought two of the 40GBers and the jumpers would NOT work properly -- according to the BIOS on several different machines tried. Had to do the opposite of the diagrams for mastering, but slaves would NOT work period on either one. One died after a couple of months -- brand new! Moved the survivor to a less-important machine to do test routine duties -- peeling potatoes and shelling peas! Never again I'm not a sysadmin at work but I know several, who told me they had to change out all the Quantum Fireballs here at our 1000-seat campus. They were dropping like flies and it wasted too much of everyone's time replacing them one-by-one as they failed. Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FIXED: fdisk and HD's larger than 2GB
Beware of Quantum Fireballs -- bought two of the 40GBers and the jumpers would NOT work properly -- according to the BIOS on several different machines tried. Had to do the opposite of the diagrams for mastering, but slaves would NOT work period on either one. One died after a couple of months -- brand new! Moved the survivor to a less-important machine to do test routine duties -- peeling potatoes and shelling peas! Never again I'm not a sysadmin at work but I know several, who told me they had to change out all the Quantum Fireballs here at our 1000-seat campus. They were dropping like flies and it wasted too much of everyone's time replacing them one-by-one as they failed. FYI, I have had problems with fireballs and bigfoots. Check this page out, we are not alone... http://www.driveservice.com/bestwrst.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
xdm setup for dummies?
Hello, I have been struggling with setting up an X host and X terminals for a few weeks now. I figure it's time to stop and ask for directions :) I have a FBSD 4.7R server which I intend to host X sessions from. It has the libraries for Xfree86 4.2.0 and runs icewm. (X does work, but isn't normally running given it's headless most of the time) The terminals are also running 4.7R, but use Xfree86 3.3.6 due to limited RAM. I have manually started icewm and redirected it to the terminals successfully - which works great until the terminals are powered down. Currently, I start xinit at boot, which sorta works but I still have to ssh into the server and redirect the DISPLAY. It's also kind of ugly :) I would like to simply boot the X terminals, and have them immediately start xdm and display a login to the server. I don't want anyone to be able to log into the terminal locally, and there is only one server - so I don't need a chooser. So far, I have modified the Xsessions to exec icewm. I have added all of the hosts to the Xaccess file (though I understand this shouldn't be necessary in a XDMCP broadcast environment), and written a startup script to launch xdm. Another snag is that the terminals use DHCP. I would almost prefer that the X terminals look for the server, rather than the server broadcast. The server has a static IP, so I wouldn't mind hard coding this into their configurations. Ironically, the xdm broadcast does appear to be working somewhat - I have a linux system in the Xaccess list which shows a login prompt... On top of the current WM! (I just minimize it) Any help would be greatly appreciated, Seth Henry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FIXED: fdisk and HD's larger than 2GB
At 12:20 PM 12.20.2002 -0600, Chad Albert wrote: Beware of Quantum Fireballs -- bought two of the 40GBers and the jumpers would NOT work properly -- according to the BIOS on several different machines tried. Had to do the opposite of the diagrams for mastering, but slaves would NOT work period on either one. One died after a couple of months -- brand new! Moved the survivor to a less-important machine to do test routine duties -- peeling potatoes and shelling peas! Never again I'm not a sysadmin at work but I know several, who told me they had to change out all the Quantum Fireballs here at our 1000-seat campus. They were dropping like flies and it wasted too much of everyone's time replacing them one-by-one as they failed. FYI, I have had problems with fireballs and bigfoots. Check this page out, we are not alone... http://www.driveservice.com/bestwrst.htm Well, I be darn! I have since standardized with Seagates and glad to see them rated at the top of the good list here too. Used to use only Seagates at one time and then drifted. Thanks for the info Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Networking hardware question
Hi, For one week, I have the responsability to administrate a LAN in a society where there's at least 5 swithes and 1 hub connected together in chain. I heard that plugging too many hubs or swithes in chain can cause network stability problems. Is that right, and what can I do. I have been adviced to put a bridge station between twoo switches in the chain, but I didn't succeeded in configuring the twoo interfaces (twoo RTL 8139 cards) on the same network adress (for exemple 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 cards in the same box...) and making a bridge. I compiled my kernel with the BRIDGE option, and I put sysct.net.link.bridge_cfg=rl0:0,rl1:0 in sysctl.conf. Im I on the rigt way, and if not so on, what ca I do ? Thanks a lot ! _ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Networking hardware question
Hi Christophe, On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 18:47, Christophe Simon wrote: Hi, For one week, I have the responsability to administrate a LAN in a society where there's at least 5 swithes and 1 hub connected together in chain. I heard that plugging too many hubs or swithes in chain can cause network stability problems. Is that right, and what can I do. I have been adviced to put a bridge station between twoo switches in the chain, but I didn't succeeded in configuring the twoo interfaces (twoo RTL 8139 cards) on the same network adress (for exemple 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 cards in the same box...) and making a bridge. I compiled my kernel with the BRIDGE option, and I put sysct.net.link.bridge_cfg=rl0:0,rl1:0 in sysctl.conf. Im I on the rigt way, and if not so on, what ca I do ? Thanks a lot ! Not sure for others, but I seem to recall that 3COM Office Desktop switches actually do specify the max number of units you can daisy-chain together. Not sure about bridging though.., sorry. Stcey _ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
blank saver question
Hello, I am working on adapting FreeBSD to a Compaq IA-1. The display on this system is not DPMS compliant, so shutting off the backlight requires writing to a PCI register. I currently have a small C program which I can use to manipulate this register from the command line, and I would like to either integrate, or call, this code from the blanksaver module. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about how it works to change it. Could someone give me some tips on how to do this? Is it as simple as simply adding the code to the blank_saver() function, and adding the appropriate header and include files? I'm a bit nervous mucking in modules, as I understand they can cause problems that are hard to recover from. If it is, this would be a good place to initialize all of the front panel LED's as well :) Thanks, Seth Henry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: problem with installing new ports
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David S. Jackson wrote: step 2: google search for the exact tarball name uncovered from the previous command. It should be found at http://www.mpg123.de/cgi-bin/sitexplorer.cgi?/mpg123/ step 3: copy said tarballs to /usr/ports/distfiles and try making the port again. This method will work just fine, however: Please be aware that if you do not continue to update your ports tree, eventually the same problem will happen to every port you attempt to install. The problem will also arise that when you go to the site to download the tarball and you notice that there is a newer version that contains bug fixes, security patches or general performance/enhancements. If you get the new version rather than the version that is specified in your Makefile, you will have MD5 Checksum issues. It is still in your and your computers best interst to update your ports tree, keeping you safe from other nasty issues. :) Good luck. ~Shane pgp key: http://www.freebsdhackers.net/pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+A2yQtGSLUf7ussURAs9VAJwJKzg43u8Lu5ob28ossHF636wQSwCfVqNm nsOx/x2xqSCo8QpqZAuUiFc= =qVRc -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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Re: PortUpgrade
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:28:17PM +0100, Pierrick Brossin wrote: Hi ! I 'portupgrade -a' my system and figured out that it is recompiling every new port. It's taking a vry long time to do so. Is there a way to specify to portupgrade to get the compiled package instead of compiling everything ? Thank you -- Pierrick Brossin Read the man page for portupgrade. Note the -P and -PP options. Nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
on 12/20/02 7:39 AM, Fernando Gleiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote: apart from what others said about wildcard substitution: roman@freepuppy /usr 1005:1 ls -l .* zsh: no matches found: .* roman@freepuppy /usr 1006:1 IOW, the behavior is actually shell- (and shell configuration-) dependent. Yes, because wildcard expansion is done by the shell. zsh (at least with my settings) would protect you from yourself in this situation. And will prevent you from doing it when you really need it :) I don't know zsh, but if it has a setting that prevents wildcard expansion from including .. as a match for .* that strikes me as an all-around good thing. When do you _really_need_ .* to match .. ? You could in such a situation type .. explicitly, just as you would often add .* when * does not work. One possible approach with some nice consistency would be: * matches:foo but not .foo .* matches:.foobut not ..foo (and not ..) Of course to remain fully consistent with this approach (by one interpretation), foo* would not match foo.foo - rather you would have to type foo.* or foo*.* according to your needs. This might fail to meet expectatons in more situations than the ones it fixes. That aside, even an interpretation of .* that allows ..fo but simply disallows only .. still strikes me as an all-around good thing. Anyone hurt by this (at least on the command line) can simply add .. explicitly to the list. Maybe it would be an improvement to unix if this change were made to all shells, or even just to go into prompt for y mode when hitting .. in this one case (if the shell is interactive). Kurt Bigler Fer -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
adduser ownership of mounted home directory
I am trying to put user's home directories onto a mounted windows share (mounting via smbfs). When I run the adduser script (and specify /mountedshare/username as the home directory) it doesn't set the ownership of the home directory to the user. Root still owns the folder. If I add a user to the usual /home directory it works fine. Here is what the regular home directory shows for permissions: # cd /home # ls -l drwxr-xr-x 2 test test 512 Dec 20 13:45 test Here is what the mounted share shows for permissions: # cd /mountedshare # ls -l drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Dec 19 10:18 test2 Do I need to chmod the mountedshare to a particular value to get the ownership to work? Is there something else about the mountedshare that I need to change, maybe in fstab? Many thanks, Adam Lofstedt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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Re: PortUpgrade
From the man page: -P --use-packages Use packages instead of ports whenever available. portupgrade searches the local directories listed in PKG_PATH for each package to install or upgrade the current installation with, and if none is found, pkg_fetch(1) is invoked to fetch one from a remote site. If it doesn't work either, the port is used. Hi ! I 'portupgrade -a' my system and figured out that it is recompiling every new port. It's taking a vry long time to do so. Is there a way to specify to portupgrade to get the compiled package instead of compiling everything ? Thank you -- Pierrick Brossin IT Employee 15, Ch. du Château, 1422 Grandson, Switzerland Tel Prof: +41-327201423 Mobile Priv: +41-794137145 Mail Prof: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail Priv: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
In the last episode (Dec 20), Giorgos Keramidas said: On 2002-12-20 14:00, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last episode (Dec 20), Kurt Bigler said: I don't know zsh, but if it has a setting that prevents wildcard expansion from including .. as a match for .* that strikes me as an all-around good thing. zsh's rules are that no filename generation pattern ever matches the files `.' or `..'. There is also a GLOB_DOTS option that when set makes * match files starting with a dot as well. You can enable GLOB_DOTS for a single pattern by using a glob qualifier: *(D) That's no good either. How does someone `chmod 700 .' with zsh then? `chmod 700 .', of course :) The rule only applies to wildcards (i.e. filename generation patterns). -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
ppp over usb
Is it possible to run ppp between 2 freebsd boxes over a usb connection? If so, what's needed to wire them together, some sort of usb cross-over cable? Michael grant To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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Re: problem with installing new ports
If there is an easier way to make pkgdb -F complete its job successfully and not terminate with errors, I'm all ears by the way. :-) I'm not too sure on this one. I don't really use any of the `pkg' utilities ;) Someone else might be able to help with that. well... if your package db has gotten way out of sync with your ports collection, it creates a nightmare that only time and effort will fix. You have a couple options, both equally suck, but have their merits as well. option 1: find the new dependancies or delete the dependancy if it no longer exists... once completed, use `portversion -l ''` to see which installed ports have newer versions available. use portupgrade to get them current. takes forever but usually works...just be careful when changing dependancies, option 2: remove as many old ports as possible, especically if they are not used/needed much and get your collection down to a small level, then move up to option 1. This method is easier, but not necessarily an option on many systems. its nice for workstations and cleaning the system out, not so good if a production box that requires all ports that are installed... once pkgdb -F can be run without errors, cvsup, use `portsdb -Uu` then check for old ports using `portversion -l ''`. from this point on, you should have a clean system. to keep it clean, either always run pkgdb -F after installing a port, or always use `portinstall -N` to install your ports, which will update pkgdb on its own... portupgrade is pretty much an all or nothing port... if you use it religiously, its great... if you forget about it, its a hassle later on down the road. its a great port but works best on fresh installs... its a little harder to deal with if you have already installed a lot of ports. just my $.02 .daniel.schrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Pike Spontanious reboot or crash
Have an odd one - looking for ideas. Have a 4.7-STABLE system running on a 1.8Ghz P4 with 256MB - works wonderfully - make buildworld takes 20 minutes, quite nice. For some time I've been trying to get a working copy of Pike (http://pike.ida.liu.se/) running on this box without much success. Whenever I try to make a current version the machine will chug away for a few minutes and the system will suddenly reboot or the kernel will crash. First thing that comes to mind of course is a cooling problem - but as I mentioned, buildworld works great - as do other larger projects - so that seems unlikely. Next thing that comes to mind is a memory problem - but same response - it seems unlikely given that this is the only package that causes this to happen. Not really any tracks to study - most recent release of Pike is 7.4 and that seems to be causing reboots - 7.3 was causing the kernel halts. Any thoughts appreciated. -Darren Darren Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Mounting XP partition
On Friday 20 December 2002 08:18 am, Anthony Abby wrote: Jerry McAllister said: Hi everyone, me again :) I have mounted a ntfs(WinXP) partition on my freebsd box, but i am unable to write anything to it? My understanding is that is the current state of ntfs support. You can read from, but not write to ntfs slices. I don't know if writing ability is being worked on. You can write to... smbfs allows full rw capability. I run a backup job on my linux/freebsd servers every night and back the resultant tars up on my windows xp box via smbfs mount. Works like a charm. Anthony To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Here here! -- Thomas Connolly President Electrosoft Solutions, Inc. Phone: (970) 222-7844 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: compact flash use
I took a look at the adapter, and it appears to support multiple formats. This could be the source of your problem. I use a much simpler CF - IDE adapter for programming FreeBSD images to CF devices for use in embedded systems. My adapter has an IDE header, CF slot and LED - that's it. CF devices can operate in true ATA mode. Perhaps your adapter is operating it in some other mode? this was exactly the problem. the adapter i had included a chipset to make the device act as removable media. i have since purchased and installed: http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/display_product.cfm?product_id=21 all is well now: root@fw-1[~]% dmesg | grep ad ad1: 307MB DEM ATA FLASH [624/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO4 and as a sidenote, setting up freebsd to use rc.diskless2 was a breeze. -randall -- :// randall s. ehren :// voice 805.893.5632 :// systems administrator:// isber|survey|avss.ucsb.edu :// institute for social, behavioral, and economic research To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Pike Spontanious reboot or crash
In the last episode (Dec 20), Darren Henderson said: Have a 4.7-STABLE system running on a 1.8Ghz P4 with 256MB - works wonderfully - make buildworld takes 20 minutes, quite nice. For some time I've been trying to get a working copy of Pike (http://pike.ida.liu.se/) running on this box without much success. Whenever I try to make a current version the machine will chug away for a few minutes and the system will suddenly reboot or the kernel will crash. If you get a kernel panic, enable crashdumps and post a stack trace. http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html There's nothing in the regular pike build that should cause any system problems. A testsuite run (make verify) might cause your system to run out of resources (processes or memory, depending on the test), but shouldn't panic the system either. The pikefarm page only has one FreeBSD-4.7 machine building pike-7.4, and it looks like it's got an m4 problem during the testsuite run, but it does build. http://pike.ida.liu.se/development/pikefarm/7.4.xml -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
print server (USB)
Hello, I was reading the lpd man pages (and the web), but I did not find anything related to simultaneus printing. Sorry if this is a too lame question... I currently got two print servers (running 4.6.2 and lpd), one for each parallel printer, and since I have to substitute one printer (no longer works properly) I was thinking about buying two USB ones (same model) and put them plus the parallel on just one server to attend the demand. Does lpd manages the three queues at the same time, printing simultaneus in all three printers? I read at the lpd manual that I can route print jobs to other printer so I could make a balance on the load having two equal USB printers. Does anyone have any experience/tips about it? BTW machine I am planning to run it is a P-133 with 64MB ram. Is it good enough for handling three queues? (I know that just one runs smoothly...) thanks Paulo Roberto __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update 3 September 1999 This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? === Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people
The Complete FreeBSD, third edition: errata and addenda
Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition Last revision: 2 August 1999 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. You'll find this information on page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of Contents). See the end of this document for instructions on how to find the errata for an older version. You can get the current document in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printingout,at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a Page 1 The Complete FreeBSD bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page ii ___ The instructions on page ii (opposite the title page) tell you to look at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2 for the errata list. That's wrong. Look at this list. Pages 190 and 191 _ The description is not very clear about which text appears when booting from floppy for initial install, and which appears when booting normally. The procedure is very similar, but there are some differences. Add the following text after the heading Boot messages: You'll boot your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system. Later, after the system is installed, you'll boot from hard disk. The procedure is almost identical, so we'll look at both versions in the following examples. Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with: If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see: Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: When you insert the MFS root floppy and press Enter, you see more twirling batons, then the UserConfig screen appears. UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration After the kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c option to the boot loader: Page 206 The bottom two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file Page 2 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition nfs_client_enable=YES # This host is an NFS client (or NO). nfs_server_enable=YES # This host is an NFS server (or NO). Page 265 The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver. The scsi program is no longer available in FreeBSD 3.x. Instead, use the camcontrol program. Replace the text with:. Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by allocating an alternate sector for the data. IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation. Usually it is turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not. When installing a new disk, you should check that the parameters ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enable) and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on. For example, to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter: # camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3 # scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3 This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one specified in the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the
The Complete FreeBSD, second edition: errata and addenda
Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Last revision: 21 June 1999 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997. If you have this book, please check this list. If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996, please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This same file is also available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/. This list is available in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printingout,at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a Page 1 The Complete FreeBSD bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] General changes ___ o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the following command to find process information: $ ps aux | grep foo Unfortunately, ps is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator upon which it is working. This command usually works fine on a relatively wide xterm, but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate exactly the information you're looking for, so you end up with no output. You can fix that with the w option: $ ps waux | grep foo Thanks to Sue Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this information Location of the sample files On the 2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM). The 2.2.5 CD-ROM came out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM as a single gzipped tar file /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz. It contains the following files: drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/ drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt Page 2 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata To extract one of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter: # cd /usr/share/doc # tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt See page 209 for more information on using tar. These files are an early version of what is described in the book. I'll put up some updated
Re: Tape Backup
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:33:11AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: If your usage justifies the cost, you might want to consider DLT or LTO type drives. They handle the load with less failure and higher capacity and data rates. I'm using Sony AIT-2 and it works great. The benefit of using AIT is that you don't need to clean your tape drive at all, and it also in a continuous development with AIT-3 has been launched (100/200 capacity). Yah, we have several AIT systems here too and are having pretty good luck with them too - though, I can't support the NEVER have to clean the tape drive. Rarely, yes, but Never, no. jerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
ELF docs
Where I can find some docs about the freebsd elf binary structure ? I'm interested in more detailed docs (C examples would be great). thanks P.S. Please include my mail when responding, because I'm not subscribed for the mailing list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: du -sh inconsistant with df -h
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul: You hit the nail right on the head! I did a lsof +L1 and found stunnel taking up a huge (2148999) amount of space. Killed it, restarted it and all my space is back! Now, the question is why does it keep accumulating all that space and how can I prevent that from happening. Quick addendum: I had stunnel on debug level 7 which was logging a tremendous amount of information since it records each and every connection; I have many users check their mail via a tunneled pop connection every 1-3 minutes! As you can imagine, the log files were enormous. Wiping the logs and dialing the debug level down to 4 fixed the problem nicely. Hope this helps someone else. Happy holidays to all! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 Comment: This message has been digitally signed by Mike Loiterman iQA/AwUBPgPRl2jZbUnRudGOEQKsowCg+Yig3H1E+MfddfGQBIk1NQo08VkAn3Uz xDmnOSKmyg8ctznns37K14Jl =Oswk -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: 41upgrade.tgz and 42upgrade.tgz gone??
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:55:07AM -0600, Jay West wrote: Has anyone seen: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/Latest/41upgr ade.tgz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/Latest/42upgr ade.tgz These files appear to have disappeared. Can someone tell me where they are? I wanted the latest ones to go with the entire 4x stable ports collection. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly as I'm not on the list. They are not produced or supported any more. Kris msg12783/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: Pike Spontanious reboot or crash
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Dan Nelson wrote: If you get a kernel panic, enable crashdumps and post a stack trace. Thanks for the reply - with the current combination of version I haven't seen a panic, just the reboot. Was seeing the panics with 4.7, 4.6 and 4.5 of STABLE and versions of pike between 7.2 and 7.4. Tried build on a couple of other systems and it doesn't reboot - must be something about the box, just can't think what though. Does have raid controller etc - much fancier motherboard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: problem with installing new ports
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 04:30:24PM -0600 Daniel Schrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well... if your package db has gotten way out of sync with your ports collection, it creates a nightmare that only time and effort will fix. You have a couple options, both equally suck, but have their merits as well. option 1: find the new dependancies or delete the dependancy if it no longer exists... once completed, use `portversion -l ''` to see which installed ports have newer versions available. use portupgrade to get them current. takes forever but usually works...just be careful when changing dependancies, option 2: remove as many old ports as possible, especically if they are not used/needed much and get your collection down to a small level, then move up to option 1. This method is easier, but not necessarily an option on many systems. its nice for workstations and cleaning the system out, not so good if a production box that requires all ports that are installed... once pkgdb -F can be run without errors, cvsup, use `portsdb -Uu` then check for old ports using `portversion -l ''`. from this point on, you should have a clean system. to keep it clean, either always run pkgdb -F after installing a port, or always use `portinstall -N` to install your ports, which will update pkgdb on its own... portupgrade is pretty much an all or nothing port... if you use it religiously, its great... if you forget about it, its a hassle later on down the road. its a great port but works best on fresh installs... its a little harder to deal with if you have already installed a lot of ports. This has been one of the most helpful and practical pieces of advice I have ever gotten from this terrific list. Thank You! I'll start planning this operation. (Option 2 first, then Option 1.) (The portsdb is really still a mystery to me, and after letting it get so far out of synch as it is, I hope that I too can have a clean system again without reinstalling from scratch!) The advice above seems so good that I didn't trim it; I hope someone else can get as much help out of it as I have and therefore felt it's worth leaving intact. :-) -- David S. Jackson[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Life is divided into the horrible and the miserable. -- Woody Allen, Annie Hall To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
How can I config Netgear MA401 PCMCIA card?
hello! I want to install my netgear MA401 card into my freebsd4.5 sytem. I modified the config file of kernel according to the manual of wl, but, my netgear MA401 wireless card did not work. I do not know why? is there any available new driver of netgear MA401 in freebsd 4.5?:) Thank you :) Boxuan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.
The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the connection with my Internet Servise Provider. Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted via ethernet. If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE. For this to work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC. You will need to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies. Ok, so in my situation the installation of FreeBSD is impossible. What do you think about changing GENERIC or just the kernel in installation floppies in the future releases of FreeBSD? I think it will be very useful because ADSL (therefore PPPoE protocol) is very frequent method of connecting with Internet Service Provider in our days. Read the other peoples' posts. It seems I was incorrect in my statement. Despite the lack of a set of kernel modules on the floppies, PPPoE is still supported. Randy Pratt posted a link to a doc he wrote on getting PPPoE working within sysinstall. Ok, I found Randy Pratt's message in [EMAIL PROTECTED], thank you and thanks to Randy. I will try his method. But I think it will be a great idea to add PPPoE into the sysinstall menu. Then the method will be no to so tricky and abnormal. P.S. FTP installation use much less internet traffic than 4 huge ISO files' downloading. Depending on what you're installing, yes. Personally, I prefer to have everything local during an install. I've never liked the idea of connecting to the internet as root, and that's exactly what you do when doing an FTP install. I partially agree with you, to have everything local is better but if it was possibly I was not asked the question about PPPoE/PPTP and FTP installation. Also I don't think FTP installation through the internet is as security risky as you draws. You have no port listening during the installation, you use just FTP client to download the files. What kind of attack could you be exposed and what root's role will be? Only DoS attacks I think, some kind of flood for example. And if you download ISO files the chances of the DoS are worsen? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
- Original Message - From: Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: Re: chown broken?? Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the directories named on the command line within the CURRENT directory. Technically, . and .. are entries within the current directory (try: od -c .), and they have inode numbers too. But that does not deter me from deeming it a bit counter- intuitive to consider .. a directory of the current directory. :) Especially in the context of recursion. The manpage explicitly mentions neither directories or recursion, Indeed; and I was going to mention this too, as the man page seems to have gone out of its way to avoid the word recursion and directrory. -R Change the user ID and/or the group ID for the file hierarchies rooted in the files instead of just the files themselves. Then I looked at the man page for cp -R .*, which acts like chown -R .*, and read: -R If source_file designates a directory, cp copies the directory and the entire subtree connected at that point. Now, see, this is legible to me. :) - Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
How do you suspend and resume a remote shell session?
Howdy All, Does anyone know of a method to suspend and resume a telnet / SSH session. I know that it is possible to suspend and resume a serial console session, but is there any way to do it remotely using SSH? Essentially I'd like to be able to disconnect my session and then reconnect,say a day later and return to the same console session. TIA -- Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: How do you suspend and resume a remote shell session?
In the last episode (Dec 21), Andrew Cutler said: Does anyone know of a method to suspend and resume a telnet / SSH session. I know that it is possible to suspend and resume a serial console session, but is there any way to do it remotely using SSH? Essentially I'd like to be able to disconnect my session and then reconnect,say a day later and return to the same console session. ports/misc/screen -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Help With Custom Kernel
I am building a custom kernel so I can use my sound card. I am building it the ``traditional'' way. And when I type the second make comand It ends with the fallowing: -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x137f): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13a5): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13be): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x13ce): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x13e7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1431): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x143a): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x144d): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1468): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x151f): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x153d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x157e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x159f): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x15a7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x18c5): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x18d5): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x19d1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1ad8): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1ae9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1b03): more undefined references to `xpt_done' follow *** Error code 1 Any help would geratly be appreceated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Help With Custom Kernel
Please read the comments in the kernel config file: device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da You need to have 'device scbus' and 'device da' in your kernel to enable USB mass storage (umass) support. -- Matt Emmerton - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Help With Custom Kernel I am building a custom kernel so I can use my sound card. I am building it the ``traditional'' way. And when I type the second make comand It ends with the fallowing: -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x137f): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13a5): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x13be): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x13ce): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x13e7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1431): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x143a): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x144d): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1468): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x151f): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x153d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x157e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x159f): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x15a7): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x18c5): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x18d5): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x19d1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1ad8): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1ae9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1b03): more undefined references to `xpt_done' follow *** Error code 1 Any help would geratly be appreceated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: chown broken??
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 07:49:27PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: Thus spake Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andrew Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: chown broken?? On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:12:17PM +0100, Mark wrote: I must say, though, that while I understand this behaviour, one can argue on what exactly recursive is to mean here. Intuitively, the definition of the current sub-directory and all sub-directories below the current directory (and that for each subdirectory) seems the correct one. Which would exclude .., as this is not a sub-directory of the current directory, but the parent. Not really. It recurses through the directories named on the command line, of which '..' happens to be one. Yes, the directories named on the command line within the CURRENT directory. Technically, . and .. are entries within the current directory (try: od -c .), and they have inode numbers too. But that does not deter me from deeming it a bit counter-intuitive to consider .. a directory of the current directory. :) Especially in the context of recursion. So you want 'chown foo ..' to fail, as a special case? As I mentioned before, rm gets away with this because you don't want to remove the parent of the directory you're currently in. (Actually, some rm implementations *will* let you shoot yourself in the foot.) But it's perfectly reasonable to chown '..', even recursively, so chown can't make any assumptions. I object to going around and documenting this caveat in the manpages for every single utility that supports recursion through a directory tree. It doesn't really belong there, it belongs in a ``How to use the shell'' tutorial. The way Unix traditionally does parameter expansion makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot in at least a dozen ways, and this is just one of them. There is a little comfort-factor trick for all of this, that I use a lot on those paranoid days, execute the command first with an echo in front of it, then you will see what is going to happen..for example: [admin@willow]:~$ echo chown cls:cls .* chown cls:cls . .. .bash_history .bashrc .cshrc .forward .login .login_conf .mail_aliases .mailcap .mailrc .muttrc .procmailrc .profile .rhosts .shrc .signature .ssh [admin@willow]:~$ Of course this may not be 100% the truth if the program you are echoing makes a special case of . etc. But it does show you what the shell will expand your command line to. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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