Re: key barriers

2003-06-16 Thread Scott Kupferschmidt
Hello,

FreeBSD should be able to support any newer java version without
problems.  Most people compile from ports, however there should be
something available -- you should find out what his version needs actually
are, and base off that.

Also, FreeBSD is immune to many exploits that are known to have caused
havoc with Linux.  It is possible to upgrade the system to the newest
version, however if it's a rather old install you'll have to do it
carefully.  You can always cvsup an install, however I do believe there
were many differences between FreeBSD 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x now especially
with libs.

Sincerely,

Scott Kupferschmidt


On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Thanjee Neefam wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 I have a friend who is a Debian Linux user and I have been having a
 discussion with him about using FreeBSD. He wrote me a list of his
 concerns with changing to FreeBSD. I don't want to give him any incorrect
 answers or incorrect information. So could someone more knowledgable than
 me please give me some precise answers on the following points.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 from email
 
 I like that a certain *BSD is getting funding from DARPA; the 
 enhancements I was reading about sounded impressive.
 
 The key barrier to FreeBSD is java.  I go to 
 http://www.freebsd.org/java/ and the main text says FreeBSD supports 
 1.1.8, which isn't good enough for my needs.
 
 However, there is also a 1.4 link on that page, but that page says the 
 FreeBSD version is currently missing features.
 
 This is the second key issue.  I know of someone who runs an old 
 open-source OS (about 3 versions behind the current), who doesn't know 
 how to patch his box unless he downloads 4 or so CDs.  That box was 
 recently compromised and the fix that person performed was to rebuild 
 the machine with the same old OS, and recover data from tape.
 
 I like being able to browse to www.debian.org/security and to know that 
 on certain days as many as 5 patches are released.  And that with a 
 single command I can apply all the patches I need.
 
 Now, FreeBSD has a similar page freebsd.org/security but it doesn't list 
 as many bugs.  Does that mean FreeBSD has fewer holes?  Or does it mean 
 it takes longer to fix them in FreeBSD?  Or that people are not testing 
 the security of BSD as much as Debian?  I don't know.
 
 At the top of the debian security page is directions on how to apply all 
 relevent patches.  There is no such information on the FreeBSD security 
 page (that I could see, correct me if I am wrong).  Instead the 
 directions are attached to the Security Advisory, and involve 
 recompiling your operating-system/kernal and rebooting (at least it did 
 for the two I checked 'openssl' and 'syncookies' SA for 4.8
 
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Re: Sendmail Authentication Problem

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 08:40:04PM -0500, Gary K Stinnett Jr wrote:
 I have been trying to get smtp authentication to work with Sendmail
 
 I have looked over and tried many times to install sasl and go through
 the directions on the following freebsd web page 
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html
 
 When I get to the point of make sendmail I get the following error
 
 At the end of the make process I get 
 
   CC: /usr/src/lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a: No such file or
 directory
   CC: /usr/src/lib/libsm.a: No such file or directory
   *** Error code 1

You're talking about doing the compilation step as shown in section
20.9.4 of the handbook:

  4 Recompile sendmail by executing the following commands:

# cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail
# make cleandir
# make obj
# make
# make install

The compile of sendmail should not have any problems if /usr/src
has not been changed extensively and the shared libraries it needs
are available.

There's an implicit assumption there that you've previously done a
'make buildworld' and you have a complete set of object files and so
forth under /usr/obj.  As it is, your compilation fails because there
are some other parts of the source that need to be compiled before you
can do this part.
 
 This is a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.8.  I have not changed anything
 except installing apache, qpopper, and webmin.

In your case, instead of compiling as shown in that section, try
rebuilding the whole world.  That's going to be time consuming but
it's the easiest and most certain way to get a successful result:

# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld
# cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail
# make install

Carry out all of the other steps as shown in the Handbook.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Can I delete a partition (or is it a slice?)

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:11:25PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
 I have a chance to get my hands on a 4-GB hard drive that's being replaced 
 by a 40-GB drive. My other machine really needs more space (it also has a 
 4-GB drive), and I'd like to move the /usr/home slice (or is it partition?) 
 to the new(er) HDD and delete the /usr/home slice from the older drive. I 
 presume the space would then be available to the /usr partition (the two 
 are adjacent and /usr/home was created after /usr). Would deleting the 
 slice cause my partition table to be rewritten with disastrous results?

So long as the /usr/home partition follows the /usr partition, you
should be able to merge the two by judicious use of 'disklabel -e'.
Then use growfs(8) to expand the filesystem into the new space.  If
the partitions are ordered the other way round then you're pretty much
going to have to backup the /usr partition to tape, wipe both the /usr
and /usr/home partitions, rebuild the filesystem on the merged area
using newfs(8) and restore from the backup.

Of course, wiping out the /usr partition will remove a large number of
tools that you might need for doing the backup and restore.  You can
do this using only the tools available in /bin and /sbin --- ie. use
dump(8) and restore(8), but you might find it easier to boot from disk
2 of the install media -- the live filesystem image -- and mount your
harddrives from there.
 
 Or would it be better to set up three slices, for /, /var, and /usr, on the 
 new drive, transfer the data from the old drive with backup and restore, 
 backing up the contents of /usr/home to a tarball on the new drive, then 
 repartition the old drive with a single slice, /usr/home, and copy the 
 backup tarball?

That will work too, at the cost of some juggling the disks around so
that everything remains bootable.  If you're moving the root
partition, make sure that you set up /etc/fstab with the correct
device names before you try and reboot.  Or copy the /, /var and /usr
partitions, and then rejumper and swap master and slave disks.
Recovering from an incorrect fstab is painful.
 
 Also, since these two drives would be on the same cable, would using tar to 
 transfer the data be faster than backup and restore?

No -- any differences in speed between different utilities are going
to be inconsequential compared to other considerations: tar(1) lives
in /usr/bin, which is part of what you're going to be modifying.
Better to use tools from outside that area.

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Re: key barriers

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Thanjee Neefam wrote:
The key barrier to FreeBSD is java.  I go to 
http://www.freebsd.org/java/ and the main text says FreeBSD supports 
1.1.8, which isn't good enough for my needs.

However, there is also a 1.4 link on that page, but that page says the 
FreeBSD version is currently missing features.
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/java.html
I haven't used Java on FreeBSD much, but I didn't find anything missing
when I did.  I'm sure there are others better suited to answer this, however.
This is the second key issue.  I know of someone who runs an old 
open-source OS (about 3 versions behind the current), who doesn't know 
how to patch his box unless he downloads 4 or so CDs.  That box was 
recently compromised and the fix that person performed was to rebuild 
the machine with the same old OS, and recover data from tape.
I can't imagine what that person was thinking?  But you say old open-source
OS ... if it was FreeBSD, then the admin was a fool.
I have several boxes I admin, and keeping them up to date is easy.  If
you let a machine slip so far behind that you can't easily update it, then
it's your own fault.  If no security problems force you to update earlier,
you should be able to update once a year with no problems and stay reasonably
current.
I like being able to browse to www.debian.org/security and to know that 
on certain days as many as 5 patches are released.  And that with a 
single command I can apply all the patches I need.

Now, FreeBSD has a similar page freebsd.org/security but it doesn't list 
as many bugs.  Does that mean FreeBSD has fewer holes?
I guess.  If Debian's security page has more listed, then Debian has more
holes.  All the known holes in FreeBSD are listed there.
Or does it mean 
it takes longer to fix them in FreeBSD?
Heavens no.  FreeBSD fixes problems as fast or faster than any other
project I'm aware of.
Or that people are not testing 
the security of BSD as much as Debian?
Well, I don't know how much testing the Debian folks do, but FreeBSD is
heavily used and abused by a lot of people.  If security it a major
concern, then you should use OpenBSD, which is the most secure system
out there, period.
At the top of the debian security page is directions on how to apply all 
relevent patches.  There is no such information on the FreeBSD security 
page (that I could see, correct me if I am wrong).  Instead the 
directions are attached to the Security Advisory, and involve 
recompiling your operating-system/kernal and rebooting (at least it did 
for the two I checked 'openssl' and 'syncookies' SA for 4.8
This is how things are done on FreeBSD.  If you can apply a patch to the
kernel without rebooting in Debian, then the Debian folks are far ahead of
anything I've seen!
Besides, different security issues may require different levels of activity
to patch, so trying to give one set of rules for every single security patch
would be difficult, impossible, or inaccurate.  A patch to the kernel will
definately require a reboot, while a patch to inetd would require rebuilding
inetd and doing killall inetd; inetd and save you the reboot.  Trying to
make one set of instructions for all patches would have to be lowest
common denominator, thus telling the user to reboot after patching inetd,
when that's not needed.
I've never had any complaints with the upgrade your source to the latest
security patch version, rebuild the OS and reboot system of fixing flaws.
On the slowest machines I admin, this can still be done before lunchtime
and the actual downtime is less than 15 minutes.
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Re: more transparent proxy and squid questions.

2003-06-16 Thread Andrew Thomson
i'm still having issues here..

has anyone else got transparent proxy going with firewall and squid on
different boxes??

anyway, from the squid faq, does this apply to freebsd these days??

...Compile and run a version of Squid which accepts connections for other
addresses. For some operating systems, you need to have configured and
built a version of Squid which can recognize the hijacked connections
and discern the destination addresses. For Linux this seems to work
automatically. For *BSD-based systems, you probably have to configure
squid with the --enable-ipf-transparent option. (Do a make clean if you
previously configured without that option, or the correct settings may
not be present.)...

i'm trying to use ipfw for my fwd'ing from the firewall to the proxy
server.

thanks,

ajt.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 07:25:26AM +0300, Rapier wrote:
   From what you've said you have natd enabled,instead of redirecting with ipfw 
 you shoud redirect with natd!man natd
 
 
 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:41:05 +1000
 Andrew Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 09:47:09AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
   
   Yes.  You've got the right idea.
   
  
  hmm.. i have encountered some difficulties ;) so now i'm seeking some
  more advice..
  
  i have the following rules on my firewall:
  
  10561 skipto 11000 ip from 192.168.1.2 to any
  10562 fwd 192.168.1.2,3128 tcp from 192.168.1.3 to any 80
  
  keeping in line with my example, 1=fwall, 2=squid, 3=user
  
  the skipto is in there so we go through nat and get a proper ip.
  
  i never see any packets get to the squid box though..
  
  ipfw show indicates matching packets
  ipfw show 10561 10562
  10561   5342331306 skipto 11000 ip from 192.168.1.2 to any
  10562   2520120960 fwd 192.168.1.2,3128 tcp from 192.168.1.3 to any 80
  
  a tcpdump on the squid box looking out for port 3128 shows nothing, although
  the ipfw shows matches..
  
  i'll keep digging around but any more tips would be appreciated on this
  setup.
  
  thanks,
  
  andrew.
  
  
  
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freebsd 4.2

2003-06-16 Thread #ZOU ZIXUAN#
Hi, all
   who knows from where I can download freebsd 4.2? I need it urgently for my project. 

Best regards 
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Centre For Multimedia And Network Technology
School Of Computer Engineering
Nanyang Technological University
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freebsd 4.2

2003-06-16 Thread #ZOU ZIXUAN#
Hi, all
   who knows from where I can download freebsd 4.2? I need it urgently for my project. 

Best regards 
Zou ZiXuan 
PhD candidate,  
Centre For Multimedia And Network Technology
School Of Computer Engineering
Nanyang Technological University
N4-1c-08, Nanyang Avenue
Singapore 639798
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Re: freebsd 4.2

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:15:04PM +0800, #ZOU ZIXUAN# wrote:
 Hi, all
who knows from where I can download freebsd 4.2? I need it urgently for my 
 project. 


http://www.freebsdmirrors.org/FBSDsites.php3?showi386ISO=do

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Moving users

2003-06-16 Thread Richard Beyer
Excellent!  Thanks Ruben.

Cheers,
Richard


On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Ruben de Groot wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:40:02PM +1000, Richard Beyer typed:
  Hi,
 
  I need to move users from one machine to another and keep their passwords
  intact.
 
  I've added a test user to Server-Source and a test user to
  Server-Destination and copied the password hash from
  /etc/master.password on Server-Source and pasted it into master.password
  on Server-Destination, but the login fails.

 Have you rebuild the password database after modifying master.passwd ?

 pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

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Re: Strange problem with make clean

2003-06-16 Thread Alessandro de Manzano
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 00:06:50 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 03:59:06PM +0200, Alessandro de Manzano wrote:

[...]

This means that either /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl
or /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl have the openssl file,
where it's supposed to be a directory in /usr/obj/...

rm -r /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl

Great, it worked fine on all my machines :)

Note that make clean is only guaranteed to work if the
object tree was populated using this same sources; everything

So I should have made at least a buildworld before ?

else is not guaranteed to work, and make cleandir is
advised instead, though even this may break when the types
of some files change from file to directory, like has
happened with /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl/openssl.

good, well to know :)

Many thanks again!





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Re: Moving users

2003-06-16 Thread Jonathan
Richard Beyer wrote:
Excellent!  Thanks Ruben.

Cheers,
Richard
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Ruben de Groot wrote:

On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:40:02PM +1000, Richard Beyer typed:
[snip]I've added a test user to Server-Source and a test user to
Server-Destination and copied the password hash from
/etc/master.password on Server-Source and pasted it into master.password
on Server-Destination, but the login fails.
Have you rebuild the password database after modifying master.passwd ?

pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd
Instead of editing master.passwd directly, you might want to consider 
using vipw instead, which will do both the edit and the password file 
rebuild, saving your keyboard from wear :)

- J

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RE: * FreeBSD AntiVirus Solutions *

2003-06-16 Thread Doron Shmaryahu
Hi,

Go check out inflex from www.pldaniels.com. Faster more reliable and a whole
lot easier to run.

This in conjunction with nod32 is pretty awesome !!

Kind Regards

Doron Shmaryahu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Moran
Sent: 15 June 2003 11:34 PM
To: Martin Schweizer
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: * FreeBSD AntiVirus Solutions *

Martin Schweizer wrote:
 Hello Bill
 
 I've read your posting about Sophos and FreeBSD. I'm also interessted
about 
 it. How do you use it: on clients, on servers or on mail servers?

Currently we're only using it as a mail server solution, via Amavis.
The cost of the individual client setups has convinced all our clients to go
with something cheap, like Norton, so we haven't deployed it to the desktop
yet.

 
 Am Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:50:19PM -0400 Bill Moran schrieb:
 
Olivier Nicole wrote:

We have noticed that Kaspersky and Sophos are placed at your web site
but 
we
wonder if we have any other / new alternatives more then these two SW ?

We've been using Kaspersky for more than a year, no problem with the
product itself, but the sales team is a bit unresponsive (don't expect
them to warn you when you need to renew your licence, had to threaten
them to get them replying to me, etc.)

I can't recommend Kaspersky.  I had a bad experience with them, the
product
never worked, and they stopped responding to all communications when we
told them we wanted our money back.  Being overseas, there was little we
could do but bite the bullet.

Sophos has been running ever since then.  It's fast and reliable.  It's
definately expensive, but they seem to do a real good job of having up-to-
date profiles of all viruses.  We automatically d/l and install updates
nightly and have never had a problem.
 
 


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RE: How do I change the envelope from address in sendmail

2003-06-16 Thread Doron Shmaryahu
Hi,

Have you double checked that it did build a new sendmail.cf file. Also you
can directly edit sendmail.cf.


Kind Regards

Doron Shmaryahu

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Sent: 14 June 2003 03:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I change the envelope from address in sendmail

[sorry Jon, I'm trying to do 5 things at once and forgot to CC the list]

Jonathan Chen wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 08:33:07PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
 
 [...]
 
howtos I found, but it doesn't seem to be helping.  What's the proper way
to
get sendmail to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 You have to add the following into your /etc/mail/`hostname`.mc file.
 
 MASQUERADE_AS(domain.com)
 FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

Thanks, but this hasn't helped.  Any suggestions on what I could be doing
wrong?

I added the two lines above to my .mc file and did a 'make; make restart' in
the /etc/mail directory.  The results are the same.  My .mc file is stock
otherwise except I've defined a SMART_HOST.

Any ideas?


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RE: more transparent proxy and squid questions.

2003-06-16 Thread Doron Shmaryahu
Hi,

This is relatively easy if you set the gateway of the other machine to be
your squid box. Otherwise you have no way of hijacking the connections !!
Also this could be done via a access list on a router.

Kind Regards 

Doron Shmaryahu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 16 June 2003 08:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: more transparent proxy and squid questions.

i'm still having issues here..

has anyone else got transparent proxy going with firewall and squid on
different boxes??

anyway, from the squid faq, does this apply to freebsd these days??

...Compile and run a version of Squid which accepts connections for other
addresses. For some operating systems, you need to have configured and
built a version of Squid which can recognize the hijacked connections
and discern the destination addresses. For Linux this seems to work
automatically. For *BSD-based systems, you probably have to configure
squid with the --enable-ipf-transparent option. (Do a make clean if you
previously configured without that option, or the correct settings may
not be present.)...

i'm trying to use ipfw for my fwd'ing from the firewall to the proxy
server.

thanks,

ajt.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 07:25:26AM +0300, Rapier wrote:
   From what you've said you have natd enabled,instead of redirecting
with ipfw you shoud redirect with natd!man natd
 
 
 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:41:05 +1000
 Andrew Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 09:47:09AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
   
   Yes.  You've got the right idea.
   
  
  hmm.. i have encountered some difficulties ;) so now i'm seeking some
  more advice..
  
  i have the following rules on my firewall:
  
  10561 skipto 11000 ip from 192.168.1.2 to any
  10562 fwd 192.168.1.2,3128 tcp from 192.168.1.3 to any 80
  
  keeping in line with my example, 1=fwall, 2=squid, 3=user
  
  the skipto is in there so we go through nat and get a proper ip.
  
  i never see any packets get to the squid box though..
  
  ipfw show indicates matching packets
  ipfw show 10561 10562
  10561   5342331306 skipto 11000 ip from 192.168.1.2 to any
  10562   2520120960 fwd 192.168.1.2,3128 tcp from 192.168.1.3
to any 80
  
  a tcpdump on the squid box looking out for port 3128 shows nothing,
although
  the ipfw shows matches..
  
  i'll keep digging around but any more tips would be appreciated on this
  setup.
  
  thanks,
  
  andrew.
  
  
  
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/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1607: dereferencing pointer toincomplete type

2003-06-16 Thread Duke, Brian
I cannot seem to rebuild my kernel. I wanted to get my sound card working so I 
included the device   pcm directive in my kernel config and I got an error as below..
I could use a hand here if somone has seen this kind of error.
Here is the end of the output of the failed compile 
rain# cd /usr/src
rain# make buildkernel KERNCONF=RAINBUILD

error:

=== en
cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DENABLE_BPF  -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls 
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline 
-Wcast-
qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-   -I. -I@ -I@/dev 
-I@/../include -fno-common -g -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-ffre
estanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions 
-std=c99 -c /usr/
src/sys/pci/if_en_pci.c
cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DENABLE_BPF  -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls 
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline 
-Wcast-
qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-   -I. -I@ -I@/dev 
-I@/../include -fno-common -g -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-ffre
estanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions 
-std=c99 -c /usr/
src/sys/dev/en/midway.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c: In function `en_get_vccs':
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1474: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1474: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1479: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1480: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1488: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1492: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1493: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1493: `ATMIO_FLAG_PVC' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1493: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1493: for each function it appears in.)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1494: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1495: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1497: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1497: `ATMIO_AAL_5' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1499: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1499: `ATMIO_AAL_0' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1500: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1500: `ATMIO_TRAFFIC_UBR' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1501: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1502: increment of pointer to unknown structure
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1502: arithmetic on pointer to an incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c: In function `en_ioctl':
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1591: `SIOCATMGETVCCS' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1600: `SIOCATMGVCCS' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1606: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1607: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1607: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAINBUILD.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
rain#

My FreeBSD version number
5.1 cvsup with new STANDARD-SUPFILE and PORTS-SUPFILE 


The contents of /var/run/dmesg/boot 
syncing disks, buffers remaining... 1 1
done
Uptime: 5h20m12s
Rebooting...
Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun  5 02:55:42 GMT 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc0689000.
Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter TSC  frequency 597405320 Hz
CPU: Intel Pentium III (597.41-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
  
Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 268435456 (256 MB)
avail memory = 253681664 (241 MB)
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00ede10
pcib0: Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge at pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0: 

mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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Hi !

Is there an equivalent of /etc/mtab (from Linux) in FreeBSD ?
I have a script which besides doing a lot of things, must mount a 
filesystem if it is not already mounted, so I wanted to use an mtab 
like file to check my mount status.

Thanks.

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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Julien Gabel
 I have a script which besides doing a lot of things, must mount a
 filesystem if it is not already mounted, so I wanted to use an mtab
 like file to check my mount status.

With the mount(8) command?
# mount [-v|-p]

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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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On Monday 16 June 2003 11:32, Julien Gabel wrote:
 With the mount(8) command?
 # mount [-v|-p]

Yes, this is what I was thinking about, but I just wanted to know if an 
mtab equivalent existed :)

Thanks.

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help installing sun java on freebsd -5.1

2003-06-16 Thread sweetleaf

I am running netscape v.7.0.2 that i d/l from netscape.com under the linux emulation 
on freebsd-5.1. I would like to use the chat features a yahoo and be able to do online 
banking which requires java. Netscape redirected me to suns page to d/l the java below:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/install-s1s4-linux.html

I am trying to follow the install instruction but i keep getting the error this binary 
is not executable. As mentioned above i am following their instructions:

3. ype: chmod 777 j2sdk-1_4_1_02-s1studio_ce-4u1-bin-linux.bin to change permissions 
on that file to allow execution.

Run the installer.

1. Type the following command from the directory where you placed the installation 
file:

j2sdk-1_4_1_02-s1studio_ce-4u1-bin-linux.bin



i have also tried chmod a+x but the same results.

Thanks in advance.

ps:

 I would also like to install realplayer 8. again netscape sent me to realplayer.com 
to d/l the linux distro. its a rpm format so i installed rpm from the linux section on 
ftp.freebsd.org. rpm -i realplayer.rpm gives a bunch of lib dependency issues. Is 
their a special package from the linux emulation section that i need to install?


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Freebsd.org.tr

2003-06-16 Thread Ozdemircili Ozgur CIV 425 ABS/SGST
Dear sirs,

I have been using Freebsd for like 4 years and am a fan of the operating
system.When I checked www.freebsd.org.tr I have gotten a dns error which
means it is not registered.Is there any way I can translate your page into
Turkish and be a mirror of your site?
I have checked the country list in your web page too but couldn`t see Turkey
there either.
I`ll look forward to hearing from you.

Ozgur Ozdemircili
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RE: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Barnes
Hi,

What you might be looking for is /etc/fstab ...

HTH
Ian

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 Yes, this is what I was thinking about, but I just wanted to know if an 
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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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On Monday 16 June 2003 12:44, Ian Barnes wrote:
 What you might be looking for is /etc/fstab ...

Hum, no, fstab is not mtab, it does not say which filesystem are 
mounted.
But thanks.

Antoine
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Re: Can't mount ad0s2 - sourced

2003-06-16 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:58, Brian Astill wrote:
 On Mon, 19 May 2003 02:52 pm, Andy Farkas wrote:
Sure there is [a solution]. Show us what fdisk and disklabel say.

 referring to my being unable to access ad0s2 from FBSD.
 The drive is partitioned DOS-DOS-FBSD.

 If I set up the partitions Primary1-Primary2-Primary3, WinNT hides
 Primary2, and I have to unhide using Partition Magic every time I
 boot into that hateful OS.  However, I CAN acess Primary2 from FBSD.
 If I set up the partitions Primary1-Logical1-Primary2, WinNT is happy,
 but Logical1 cannot be mounted by FBSD.


Never had occassion to use this but:-

It's my understanding that so called logical partitions/slices are available 
to FreeBSD as slice 5, 6 ...
Thus you should be able to mount the elusive partition as ad0s5.
Of course you'll probably need to first make the device:-
  #cd /dev
  #./MAKEDEV ad0s5

 herewith details of the latter case:
 As you can see, fdisk can see the extended partition, but not the
 logical partition inside it. (tho' windoze is happy)

 #fdisk /dev/ad0
 *** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
 parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
 cylinders=1027 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

 Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
 cylinders=1027 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

 Media sector size is 512
 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
 Information from DOS bootblock is:
 The data for partition 1 is:
 sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS ( 32MB))
 start 63, size 2056257 (1004 Meg), flag 80 (active)
 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
 end: cyl 127/ head 254/ sector 63
 The data for partition 2 is:
 sysid 5,(Extended DOS)
 start 2056320, size 2088450 (1019 Meg), flag 0
 beg: cyl 128/ head 0/ sector 1;
 end: cyl 257/ head 254/ sector 63
 The data for partition 3 is:
 sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
 start 4144770, size 12353985 (6032 Meg), flag 0
 beg: cyl 258/ head 0/ sector 1;
 end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
 The data for partition 4 is:
 UNUSED


Since logical slices are rather like primary slices
but referenced from a primary slice or another logical slice,
rather than the MBR, they can usually be viewed by 
pointing fdisk at a slice instead of the entire disk:
  #fdisk /dev/ad0s2

Malcolm


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Re: quick question please

2003-06-16 Thread Jonathan Arnold
i know this might be common question but id really like to know, why 
your logo is a small devil? please reply thanks.
See:

http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html

For the History of the BSD Daemon

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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday 16 June 2003 11:32, Julien Gabel wrote:
  With the mount(8) command?
  # mount [-v|-p]
 
 Yes, this is what I was thinking about, but I just wanted to know if an 
 mtab equivalent existed :)

What does mtab contain that the output of mount(8) doesn't?
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truss man doesn't show *anything*

2003-06-16 Thread Steve Coile
I've just installed a new software package that includes manual pages.
When I try to read the pages with man -M path page, I'm told the
manual page doesn't exist.  When I use truss man -M path page,
truss generates *NO* output.  Is that normal?

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Re: truss man doesn't show *anything*

2003-06-16 Thread Sondre Rønjom
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Steve Coile wrote:

 I've just installed a new software package that includes manual pages.
 When I try to read the pages with man -M path page, I'm told the
 manual page doesn't exist.  When I use truss man -M path page,
 truss generates *NO* output.  Is that normal?

have you tried 'man truss'. Should be no magic there. I'm not sure of what 
you expect 'truss man -M path page' to do for you, but I'm quite sure 
you are twisting things around here. If truss manual page has been 
correctly installed you should be able to read the man page with 'man 
truss'. 'truss -help' would probably give you the closest to your 'truss 
man -M path page'. But maybe I don't know what the heck I'm talking 
about :)

/sondre 
 

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Re: truss man doesn't show *anything*

2003-06-16 Thread Viktor Lazlo


On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Steve Coile wrote:

 I've just installed a new software package that includes manual pages.
 When I try to read the pages with man -M path page, I'm told the
 manual page doesn't exist.  When I use truss man -M path page,
 truss generates *NO* output.  Is that normal?

Are you able to view normal manpages?

Cheers,

Viktor
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Sysinstall hangs during probing....

2003-06-16 Thread Dave Bloodgood
Ive tried 4.7, 4.8, 5.0 and 5.1R ( and maybe more earlier )...System is

ABIT BG-7 MB, 512M RAM, P4 CPU 2.26 GHz, onboard realtec lan, onboard sound, 6 USB, no 
firewire
internal graphics is disabled, 2 serial, 1 parallel port
MSI GF4 4200 video, 64 MB RAM
PCI hardware modem

NO ISA slots ( and no ISA boards ! )

During boot-up, no driver is attached to internal vga, SMBus or Multimedia - these are 
all recognized, and it says no driver is attached.

I have a USB keyboard and have tried setting hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1 and have gone 
thru the other hints, disabling
all hardware that isnt in machine ( and isnt already disabled ).

Am able to run redhat linux, at least to the point of partitioning it, and have 
installed NETBSD (1.6.1) with success

Have been loyal to freebsd for quite a while, am frustrated by inability to install 
on this machine

HELP !

Dave
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MPD automation trouble

2003-06-16 Thread Paul
Hello, All.

I use MPD under FreeBSD 4.7.
Now i needed to automate management of the MPD and i find out strange behavior of MPD 
(3.13):
One my program (myserver) transmits some set of commands for MPD via stdout, which is 
redirected
to MPD's stdin by shell:
command line: # myserver | mpd
One or two commands from this set are executed by mpd immediately, but other commands 
from
set hang somewhere until myserver sends to MPD another command's set, after that 
previouse
commands are successfully executed by MPD and new commands hang somewhere again.
When i use command like # myserver | cat, full set of commands is printed to console.
I want to understand why this happens and where commands hang.
Help me to solve the this problem, please.

Paul

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OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
This weekend I installed KDE and noticed that the OpenGL screen savers were
incredibly slow.  It is clear that the graphic accelleration provided by my
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card is not being used.  I found a site that had
drivers apparently for FreeBSD, but it didn't seem to work.  I am running
FreeBSD 5.1.  Are there adequate drivers out there to support this?

Tom Veldhouse

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Re: Can't mount ad0s2 - sourced

2003-06-16 Thread Brian Astill
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:42 pm, Malcolm Kay wrote:

 Sure there is [a solution]. Show us what fdisk and disklabel
 say.
 
  referring to my being unable to access ad0s2 from FBSD.
  The drive is partitioned DOS-DOS-FBSD.
  If I set up the partitions Primary1-Primary2-Primary3, WinNT
  hides Primary2, and I have to unhide using Partition Magic
  every time I boot into that hateful OS.  However, I CAN acess
  Primary2 from FBSD. 
  However, If I set up the partitions
  Primary1-Logical1-Primary2, WinNT is happy, but Logical1 cannot be
  mounted by FBSD.

 Never had occassion to use this but:-
 It's my understanding that so called logical partitions/slices are
 available to FreeBSD as slice 5, 6 ...
 Thus you should be able to mount the elusive partition as ad0s5.

Agreed.  Sorry, been there, done that. Doesn't work if I use 
Primary/Logical/Primary. /dev/ad0s5 exists.

 #mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/edrive
doesn't work, either,  if I use Primary/Logical/Primary.  /dev/ad0s2 
does exist.

thinks I wonder what would happen if I tried to mount ad0s2a?
tests Neither ad0s2a not ad0s2e succeed :-(
Keeps saying invalid argument - /dev/ad0s2a and e both exist, so does 
/mnt/edrive.
So I'm stuck.

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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Massimiliano Stucchi
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:59:31 +0200
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 On Monday 16 June 2003 12:44, Ian Barnes wrote:
  What you might be looking for is /etc/fstab ...
 
 Hum, no, fstab is not mtab, it does not say which filesystem are 
 mounted.
 But thanks.

Well, it shows how many filesystems are mounted at boot time on a
determined machine, and these are usually the same that are kept mounted
all the time. I would either use /etc/fstab or a stripped output from
the mount command, but these are only my 0.02euro...

Ciao ciao

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pptpclient don't work with MPD

2003-06-16 Thread Paul
Hello, All.

I use MPD as VPN-server under FreeBSD 4.7.
When VPN client runs under windows(2000, XP) all right,
when VPN client is MPD and runs under FreeBSD all right too,
when VPN client is pptpclient from ports collection and runs under FreeBSD,
connection between MPD-server and pptpclient successfully stands up, but DON'T WORK.
i.e. when i try to ping another end of VPN-connection i get next logs:

VPN-server machine, mpd.log:
Jun  9 14:07:35 vpnserver mpd: [pptp] rec'd unexpected protocol 0x8e3b on link -1, 
rejecting
Jun  9 14:07:36 vpnserver mpd: [pptp] rec'd unexpected protocol 0x0047 on link -1, 
rejecting
Jun  9 14:07:37 vpnserver mpd: [pptp] rec'd unexpected protocol 0x006d on link -1, 
rejecting

VPN-client machine, ppp.log
Jun  9 14:03:05 vpnclient ppp[90176]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(17) 
state = Opened
Jun  9 14:03:05 vpnclient ppp[90176]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x8e3b 
(unrecognised protocol) was rejected!
Jun  9 14:03:06 vpnclient ppp[90176]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(18) 
state = Opened
Jun  9 14:03:06 vpnclient ppp[90176]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x0047 (DCA 
Remote Lan) was rejected!
Jun  9 14:03:07 vpnclient ppp[90176]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(19) 
state = Opened
Jun  9 14:03:07 vpnclient ppp[90176]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x006d 
(unrecognised protocol) was rejected!

When i use PoPToP as VPN-server and MPD as VPN-client i get analogious results...

If somebody could connect MPD and pptpclient help me please.

Paul
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Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
You actually found a site that had drivers for FreeBSD? I was under the
impression that such a thing didn't exist. Basically this card has no 3d
acceleration support in FreeBSD.

Ken

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

 This weekend I installed KDE and noticed that the OpenGL screen savers were
 incredibly slow.  It is clear that the graphic accelleration provided by my
 ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card is not being used.  I found a site that had
 drivers apparently for FreeBSD, but it didn't seem to work.  I am running
 FreeBSD 5.1.  Are there adequate drivers out there to support this?

 Tom Veldhouse

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Re: Can't mount ad0s2 - sourced

2003-06-16 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:42, Brian Astill wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:42 pm, Malcolm Kay wrote:
  Sure there is [a solution]. Show us what fdisk and disklabel
  say.
  
   referring to my being unable to access ad0s2 from FBSD.
   The drive is partitioned DOS-DOS-FBSD.
   If I set up the partitions Primary1-Primary2-Primary3, WinNT
   hides Primary2, and I have to unhide using Partition Magic
   every time I boot into that hateful OS.  However, I CAN acess
   Primary2 from FBSD.
   However, If I set up the partitions
   Primary1-Logical1-Primary2, WinNT is happy, but Logical1 cannot be
   mounted by FBSD.
 
  Never had occassion to use this but:-
  It's my understanding that so called logical partitions/slices are
  available to FreeBSD as slice 5, 6 ...
  Thus you should be able to mount the elusive partition as ad0s5.

 Agreed.  Sorry, been there, done that. Doesn't work if I use
 Primary/Logical/Primary. /dev/ad0s5 exists.

  #mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/edrive
 doesn't work, either,  if I use Primary/Logical/Primary.  /dev/ad0s2
 does exist.

 thinks I wonder what would happen if I tried to mount ad0s2a?
 tests Neither ad0s2a not ad0s2e succeed :-(
 Keeps saying invalid argument - /dev/ad0s2a and e both exist, so does
 /mnt/edrive.
 So I'm stuck.

I must say I find this surprising; I wonder whether Partition Magic
has done something to the boot record of the extended partition,
especially the partition table.

What does:
 # fdisk /dev/ad0s2
report?

Malcolm

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Re: truss man doesn't show *anything*

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 04:59:11AM -0400, Steve Coile wrote:
 I've just installed a new software package that includes manual pages.
 When I try to read the pages with man -M path page, I'm told the
 manual page doesn't exist.  When I use truss man -M path page,
 truss generates *NO* output.  Is that normal?

man(1) is a SUID executable:

% ls -la /usr/bin/man 
-r-sr-xr-x  1 man  wheel  29752 May 23 21:59 /usr/bin/man*

Hence truss(1) and other process tracing software like gdb(1) will
refuse to show you it's inner workings on the grounds of system
security.

Cheers,

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got load 1 but no CPU state is showing?

2003-06-16 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi,

On a lightly loaded server top is misbehaving: it continuously shows all
CPU states at 0.0% yet my load varies from 0.50 to about 3. Is there
any explanation for this?

Obviously, my kernel + world are in sync, running 4.8-RELEASE.
Rebuilding top did no good.

--Stijn

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-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2124087 May  5 17:14 /kernel
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  kmem 32744 May  5 17:11 /usr/bin/top

last pid: 54025;  load averages:  1.43,  1.50,  1.30   up 34+06:36:08  16:06:31
152 processes: 1 running, 151 sleeping
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% idle
Mem: 144M Active, 376M Inact, 189M Wired, 42M Cache, 86M Buf, 1440K Free
Swap: 1536M Total, 91M Used, 1445M Free, 5% Inuse

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZERES STATETIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
53988 stijn 28   0  2104K  1240K RUN  0:03  0.00%  0.00% top

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Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php

The binary drivers do not work, presumably because they were compiled with
gcc-2.95.2?  I think the modules for X (not the kernel modules) are supposed
to be portable between platforms (i.e. Linux and FreeBSD).  However, you can
CVS source and try to build from there, but I have had no luck as I have not
been able to login:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ati]$
cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gatos login
Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gatos
CVS password:
cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

I have the drivers working great under Linux using Gentoo ... but I would
like my workstation to be FreeBSD for the obvious reason ... but I need
accellerated OpenGL support.

Tom Veldhouse

- Original Message -
From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: FreeBSD-Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro


 You actually found a site that had drivers for FreeBSD? I was under the
 impression that such a thing didn't exist. Basically this card has no 3d
 acceleration support in FreeBSD.

 Ken

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

  This weekend I installed KDE and noticed that the OpenGL screen savers
were
  incredibly slow.  It is clear that the graphic accelleration provided by
my
  ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card is not being used.  I found a site that
had
  drivers apparently for FreeBSD, but it didn't seem to work.  I am
running
  FreeBSD 5.1.  Are there adequate drivers out there to support this?
 
  Tom Veldhouse
 
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Re: got load 1 but no CPU state is showing?

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Load averages and current load are two different things.  I suspect you
didn't catch it when it was busy.

Tom Veldhouse

- Original Message -
From: Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: got load  1 but no CPU state is showing?

Hi,

On a lightly loaded server top is misbehaving: it continuously shows all
CPU states at 0.0% yet my load varies from 0.50 to about 3. Is there
any explanation for this?

Obviously, my kernel + world are in sync, running 4.8-RELEASE.
Rebuilding top did no good.

--Stijn

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Re: got load 1 but no CPU state is showing?

2003-06-16 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:14:39AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 Load averages and current load are two different things.  I suspect you
 didn't catch it when it was busy.

I know, but I've been running top for about 15 minutes now, and it consistently
shows 0.0%. I can also assume that top has gotten in sync with somehow, but
then again I have more than 1 runnable process on average over the last
15 minutes, so I would suspect that some other process should also get some
CPU.

And of course I also ran top on other terminals -- could they all be in sync
at the same time or something?

--Stijn

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we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and
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CUPS printer installation problem

2003-06-16 Thread Bogdan Mihalcea
Hello!

I have compiled and installed the CUPS package (cups, cups-base, 
cups-lpr, cups-pstoraster). All went well, I had no errors whatsoever. 
After, I tried to install (add) my printer with the command  # kprinter 
(Add Printer wizard, under KDE). In spite of the fact that the 
foomatic-db package is also installed, when I try to install my local 
printer (on the parallel port), the Printer Model  Selection dialog box 
is empty, and I have no printers in my database.
It would be of great help for me if you could give me a hint how to 
solve the problem, because I can not use my printer under FreeBSD at 
all. I'm using FreeBSD 5.1 at home, but I have the same problems at 
office, where I use FreeBSD 4.8.
Thank you very much and excuse me for the trouble I'm causing.

Best regards,
Bogdan M.


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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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On Monday 16 June 2003 13:50, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 What does mtab contain that the output of mount(8) doesn't?

Nothing, it was just an easy way to parse, that's all.
Thanks.

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Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
Those drivers are not for 3D support. Those are for getting things like TV
out on laptops and cards that have it to work.

Ken

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

 http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php

 The binary drivers do not work, presumably because they were compiled with
 gcc-2.95.2?  I think the modules for X (not the kernel modules) are supposed
 to be portable between platforms (i.e. Linux and FreeBSD).  However, you can
 CVS source and try to build from there, but I have had no luck as I have not
 been able to login:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ati]$
 cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gatos login
 Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gatos
 CVS password:
 cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

 I have the drivers working great under Linux using Gentoo ... but I would
 like my workstation to be FreeBSD for the obvious reason ... but I need
 accellerated OpenGL support.

 Tom Veldhouse

 - Original Message -
 From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:00 AM
 Subject: Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro


  You actually found a site that had drivers for FreeBSD? I was under the
  impression that such a thing didn't exist. Basically this card has no 3d
  acceleration support in FreeBSD.
 
  Ken
 
  On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 
   This weekend I installed KDE and noticed that the OpenGL screen savers
 were
   incredibly slow.  It is clear that the graphic accelleration provided by
 my
   ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card is not being used.  I found a site that
 had
   drivers apparently for FreeBSD, but it didn't seem to work.  I am
 running
   FreeBSD 5.1.  Are there adequate drivers out there to support this?
  
   Tom Veldhouse
  
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Re: got load 1 but no CPU state is showing?

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Any chance you are running an SMP system?  You might be seeing the usage of
only one CPU?

Tom Veldhouse

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To: Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: got load  1 but no CPU state is showing?

On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:14:39AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 Load averages and current load are two different things.  I suspect you
 didn't catch it when it was busy.

I know, but I've been running top for about 15 minutes now, and it
consistently
shows 0.0%. I can also assume that top has gotten in sync with somehow, but
then again I have more than 1 runnable process on average over the last
15 minutes, so I would suspect that some other process should also get some
CPU.

And of course I also ran top on other terminals -- could they all be in sync
at the same time or something?

--Stijn

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Re: mtab

2003-06-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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 Well, it shows how many filesystems are mounted at boot time on a
 determined machine, and these are usually the same that are kept
 mounted all the time. I would either use /etc/fstab or a stripped
 output from the mount command, but these are only my 0.02euro...

Well, the different drives that need to be mounted are not in fstab.
But nevermind, I'll find a way with the output of mount -p.

Thanks.

Antoine
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SMP+HT Problem

2003-06-16 Thread AAP-IT
We have a Dell Precision 450 with 2 Xeon processors with HyperThreading
turned on. I've recompiled the kernel with SMP and hyperthreading support,
and it detects the 4 CPUs.

However after a soft reboot (ctrl+alt+del or reboot) it only detects 2 of
them. I have to do a hard reboot again to make it see all 4 cpus.

Here's the message after soft reboot:
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!

And here's the message after a hard reboot:
SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!


Using 4.8-RELEASE

Thanks,
Ali

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Re: got load 1 but no CPU state is showing?

2003-06-16 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:25:24AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 Any chance you are running an SMP system?  You might be seeing the usage of
 only one CPU?

Nope, UP only.

--Stijn

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install help needed on the probing side of things

2003-06-16 Thread robert harpham
Hi

i decided to instlll FreeBSD 5 onto my file server due to upgraing main hard drive etc 
etc..


when i try 2 run the CD all boots fine, pres enter then start probing my hardware and 
it gets to the IDE device find my 2hard drivers, CD Rom fine, then just locks up like 
dosnt do anythink left it for a long time but just sits there. pres the num lock keys 
they work ligh on and off. but does go any thera on the instll..

i had linux turbolinux on there before and it ran fine.

i have bin over my bios 2 check driver setting but everythink seems right

any one elce had this problem?

i have tryed 2 dif CD-ROM drivers 2, Liton and a acer 40x drive
both get 2 same point. also tryed with 1 HDD only

any one have any idea

many thanks
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What programs are installed..?

2003-06-16 Thread Alvaro Rosales R.
Hi guys is there a way to know which progrmas have been installes 
in a FReeBSD box?.

Thanks for your answers.
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Re: What programs are installed..?

2003-06-16 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:13:23 -0500
Alvaro Rosales R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Hi guys is there a way to know which progrmas have been installes 
 in a FReeBSD box?.

pkg_info will give you a list of installed packages. See the man page
for details on the various options.

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skip version

2003-06-16 Thread Ülkü SAYILAN
Hi,

 I have made cvsup my 4.7 FreeBSD machine, as a result of cvsup,
 version turned to 4.8 but I want to skip version in between 4.7 and 5.1
 What can I do?
 

  

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  herself. First, by asserting herself as a personality, and not as a sex commodity. 
  Second, by refusing the right of anyone over her body; by refusing to bear
  children, unless she wants them, by refusing to be a servant to God, the State, 
society, 
  the husband, the family, etc., by making her life simpler, but deeper and
  richer. That is, by trying to learn the meaning and substance of life in all its
  complexities; by freeing herself from the fear of public opinion and public 
condemnation.
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Re: install help needed on the probing side of things

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
robert harpham wrote:
Hi

i decided to instlll FreeBSD 5 onto my file server due to upgraing main hard drive etc etc..

when i try 2 run the CD all boots fine, pres enter then start probing my hardware
 and it gets to the IDE device find my 2hard drivers, CD Rom fine, then just locks
 up like dosnt do anythink left it for a long time but just sits there. pres the num
 lock keys they work ligh on and off. but does go any thera on the instll..
i had linux turbolinux on there before and it ran fine.

i have bin over my bios 2 check driver setting but everythink seems right

any one elce had this problem?

i have tryed 2 dif CD-ROM drivers 2, Liton and a acer 40x drive
both get 2 same point. also tryed with 1 HDD only
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Re: Booting takes too long. Why? (/ was not properly dismounted)

2003-06-16 Thread Rohit
Thanks for your help Jud, you are absolutely right. With issuing the halt 
command, there are no excessive delays in booting. Inface booting is really 
fast.

Thanks

Rohit


On Saturday 14 June 2003 20:04, Jud wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:28:23 +0530, Shantanu Mahajan

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  | I shutdown using the shutdown -h now command
  | or reboot using reboot now
 
  did you try 'halt'?
  what msg. do you see after the shutdown is complete?

 From the halt(8) man page:

 Normally, the shutdown(8) utility is used when the system needs to be
 halted or restarted, giving users advance warning of their impending doom
 and cleanly terminating specific programs.

 From the shutdown(8) man page:

 The following options are available:
  -h  The system is halted at the specified time.

 So Rohit is in fact using 'halt' in the way it is normally invoked, as an
 option to 'shutdown.'  Is there a reason that 'halt' without 'shutdown'
 would be preferable in this case?

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5.x usb gphoto

2003-06-16 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Howdy list,

I'm trying to get gphoto2 to connect to my digital
camera as a NON root user. (it works fine when root,
but that's a security risk)

Under 4.x, all I had to do was make the appropriate
USB devices group readable and writeable, then add
users to the appropriate group (operator, usually).

Under 5.x, I'm having more trouble. The /dev/usb*
devices have the appropriate group permissions out
of the box, but I apparently also need group write
permission to the /dev/ugen* devices.

Here are the ugen permissions when my camera is attached
to the usb port:

[11:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[/etc]# ls -al /dev/ugen*
crw-r--r--  1 root  operator  114,   0 Jun 13 09:07 /dev/ugen0
crw-r--r--  1 root  operator  114,   1 Jun 13 09:07 /dev/ugen0.1
crw-r--r--  1 root  operator  114,   2 Jun 13 09:07 /dev/ugen0.2


The problem is that I'm unfamiliar with devfs, and
I can't figure out how to get the ugen devices to
appear with group writable permissions.


Any help appreciated! Thanks.

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Re: skip version

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Ülkü SAYILAN wrote:
Hi,

 I have made cvsup my 4.7 FreeBSD machine, as a result of cvsup,
 version turned to 4.8 but I want to skip version in between 4.7 and 5.1
 What can I do?
You need to specify RELENG_5_1 in your cvsup file when you cvsup.

Note that:
a) I'm not sure it's possible to cvsup from 4 to 5.  I seem to remember
   the developers talking about the build tools on 4 not able to build
   a version 5 system.  See the archives for the freebsd-current@ mailing
   list.
b) 5 is not ready for production use yet.  Read the early adopters guide
   before you upgrade to 5.
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Running a rand or random script

2003-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
I need to run a script, perhaps using FBSD's 'rand' or 'random' command (or
any other) that will generate one single 5-digit number 'at random' between
1-9

Anyone have thoughts on how to do this??

Many thanks for any suggestions.

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
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Re: Running a rand or random script

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:15:17AM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 I need to run a script, perhaps using FBSD's 'rand' or 'random' command (or
 any other) that will generate one single 5-digit number 'at random' between
 1-9
 
 Anyone have thoughts on how to do this??

perl -e 'printf %0.5d\n, int(rand(9) + 1);'

Assuming that range is inclusive.

Cheers,

Matthew

Nb. Don't use srand() explicitly --- perl will auto-seed the PRNG from
/dev/urandom if left to it's own devices.

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Help with syslogd problem.

2003-06-16 Thread chris
I just did world as now when i reboot my pc i get a kernel panic which
seems to be caused by syslogd.

===Panic
Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02348b2
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xda9549b4
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xda9549c4
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 17767 (syslogd)
trap number = 18
panic: integer divide fault

syncing disks, buffers remaining... 290 290 286 286 286 286 286 286
286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286 286
giving up on 240 buffers
Uptime: 27s
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort
-- Press a key on the console to reboot,
-- or switch off the system now.
i can reproduce this panic everytime by just typing in syslogd in the
console prompt


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Re: Running a rand or random script

2003-06-16 Thread Simon Barner
Hi,

 I need to run a script, perhaps using FBSD's 'rand' or 'random' command (or
 any other) that will generate one single 5-digit number 'at random' between
 1-9
 
 Anyone have thoughts on how to do this??

Don't know about a shell way to do this, but what about this tiny
C program (compile and link with gcc -c -o r.o  gcc -or r.o)

#include stdlib.h
#include time.h
 
int main (int argc, char *argv[]) {
srandomdev();
/* use this on non-BSD systems:
srandom(time (0));
*/

unsigned int r = random () % 9 +1;
printf (%d\n, r);

return r;
}

Cheers,
 Simon
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install PHP4

2003-06-16 Thread Alvaro Rosales R.
Hi guys I want to install PHP4 from the ports tree, but  when I try to do it I  get a 
menu that doesn't have te option I need , I want to add tds support to my php 
installation,. How can I add that option to this menu? or how can I install it ?
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RE: Running a rand or random script

2003-06-16 Thread Barry Byrne
jot -r 5 0 9 | rs -g 0 5

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 I need to run a script, perhaps using FBSD's 'rand' or 'random' 
 command (or
 any other) that will generate one single 5-digit number 'at 
 random' between
 1-9
 
 Anyone have thoughts on how to do this??
 
 Many thanks for any suggestions.
 
 Best regards,
 Jack L. Stone,
 Administrator
 
 SageOne Net
 http://www.sage-one.net
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Re: Running a rand or random script

2003-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 05:32 PM 6.16.2003 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:15:17AM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 I need to run a script, perhaps using FBSD's 'rand' or 'random' command (or
 any other) that will generate one single 5-digit number 'at random' between
 1-9
 
 Anyone have thoughts on how to do this??

perl -e 'printf %0.5d\n, int(rand(9) + 1);'

Assuming that range is inclusive.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

Nb. Don't use srand() explicitly --- perl will auto-seed the PRNG from
/dev/urandom if left to it's own devices.

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  Savill Way

Matthew: Your one-liner is just exactly what I needed. THANKS!

Best regards,
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Re: Running a rand or random script

2003-06-16 Thread Simon Barner

Whoops, did too much C++ programming these days, in C this should really
be:

#include stdlib.h
#include time.h
 
int main (int argc, char *argv[]) {
unsigned int r;

srandomdev();
/* use this on non-BSD systems:
srandom(time (0));
*/

r = random () % 9 +1;
printf (%d\n, r);

return r;
}
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Re: make buildworld failed

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 08:34:18PM +0400, ??? ?? wrote:
 Hi, All.
 
 On machine with FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE I was done next steps:
 
 Edit /usr/local/etc/CVSUP.conf for next settings:
 
 *default host=cvsup4.ru.FreeBSD.org
 *default base=/var/cvsup
 *default prefix=/var/cvsup
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 #*default compress
 src-all

[...]

 /var/cvsup/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/mis
 c.c -o misc.o
 cc1: warnings being treated as errors
 In file included from
 /usr/obj/var/cvsup/src/i386/usr/include/openssl/ui_compat.h:63,
  from
 /usr/obj/var/cvsup/src/i386/usr/include/openssl/des_old.h:439,
  from
 /usr/obj/var/cvsup/src/i386/usr/include/openssl/des.h:101,
  from
 /var/cvsup/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/enc
 rypt.h:64,
  from
 /var/cvsup/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/mis
 c.c:53:
 /usr/obj/var/cvsup/src/i386/usr/include/openssl/ui.h:220: warning:
 function declaration isn't a prototype
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /var/cvsup/src/secure/lib/libtelnet.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /var/cvsup/src/secure/lib.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /var/cvsup/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /var/cvsup/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /var/cvsup/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /var/cvsup/src.
 
 Full log file on http://www.nashe.ru/mk_bworld.log (~6.1Mb)
 /etc/make.conf is on http://www.nashe.ru/make.conf

You seem to be missing a version of gcc on your 4.4-RELEASE system
that is good enough to cope with the header files for the latest
version of the OpenSSL crypto library. Line 220 of openssl/ui.h reads:

int UI_ctrl(UI *ui, int cmd, long i, void *p, void (*f)());

which is a perfectly good function prototype.  Try setting:

NO_OPENSSL=  true

in your /etc/make.conf, compile and upgrade to 4.8-STABLE, then take
the NO_OPENSSL line out of /etc/make.conf and recompile to get all of
the crypto-goodness back again.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: truss man doesn't show *anything*

2003-06-16 Thread Fernando Gleiser
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Steve Coile wrote:

 I've just installed a new software package that includes manual pages.
 When I try to read the pages with man -M path page, I'm told the
 manual page doesn't exist.  When I use truss man -M path page,
 truss generates *NO* output.  Is that normal?

Yes. It is normal. man is SUID and you can't trace (via ktrace, truss
or a debugger) a SUID executable, unless you're root.


Fer

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Re: got load 1 but no CPU state is showing?

2003-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
Stijn Hoop wrote:
On a lightly loaded server top is misbehaving: it continuously shows all
CPU states at 0.0% yet my load varies from 0.50 to about 3. Is there
any explanation for this?
Maybe.  :-)  I was going to say that on fast machines, it's not unusual for 
processes which start up and then finish quickly to go away before top sees 
them, but you still see the effect in the aggregate system load.  However, that 
doesn't explain this line:

 CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% idle

Clutching at straws, maybe top can't read /dev/kmem or something?
Try doing a MAKEDEV all in /dev...
-Chuck



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Re: Help with syslogd problem.

2003-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
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[ ... ]
i can reproduce this panic everytime by just typing in syslogd in the
console prompt
Reproducable problems are wonderful, considering the alternatives.  :-)
Enable system crash dumps, and then follow:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html

...to get a backtrace from the system panic.

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Re: Moving users

2003-06-16 Thread Don Dela Rosa
reject


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RE: install PHP4

2003-06-16 Thread John Straiton
If you are referring to FreeTDS support so that you can connect to a
MSSQL database, use the Sybase-CT option in that menu.

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 Hi guys I want to install PHP4 from the ports tree, but  when 
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5.1-Rel and COMPAT_OLDPCI

2003-06-16 Thread Michael C. Cambria

Hi,

I use 4.8-Stable day to day, but setup a system to get my feet wet with
5.1-Release.  A driver I need to use, lmc, is new to 5.1.  On 4.x I use
the driver from the support page of LanMedia (now SBEI).

The lmc driver will not build.  It needs COMPAT_OLDPCI defined in the
kernel.  This option doesn't seem to be supported anymore.  UPDATING has
an entry stating that OLDPCI (and OLDISA) are needed for drivers that
haven't been modified to newbus.  OLDISA is still supported (according
to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES), but using options COMPAT_OLDPCI causes
the kernel compile to fail.

A search on OLDPCI returns several matches in the -current archives
stating that one needs this option defined.  I can find nothing that
says the option went away (nor what (if anything) replaced it).

Am I SOL with this driver?  I'm surprised that the lmc driver would be
formally added to FreeBSD with the 5.1-Release but not in a usable
form.  The source code expects OLDPCI to be defined.  I just can find
out how to enable it.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
MikeC
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Re: What programs are installed..?

2003-06-16 Thread W. D.
At 10:18 6/16/2003, Miguel Mendez, wrote:
314834.jpg Re What programs are installed.emsfile://D:\Programs\Eudora\attach\Re 
What programs are installed.ems 0880.0002 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:13:23 -0500
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Hi,

 Hi guys is there a way to know which progrmas have been installes 
 in a FReeBSD box?.

pkg_info will give you a list of installed packages. See the man page
for details on the various options.

Thanks for this--very helpful.  Does anyone know how to tell what
the options/programs compiled into the kernel are?


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Using kevent to catch laptop disk I/O culprit?

2003-06-16 Thread George Hartzell

I'm working on keeping my laptop disk spun down and am using the
process of elimination to figure out who's always spinning up the
disk.

So far, I've put /tmp on an mfs, and I just installed Robert Sexton's
hw.ata.suspend patch from the freebsd-mobile archives.

I'm slowly killing off and/or fine tuning various daemons to see if
they're responsible for all of the IO, and it occured to me that
the kevent/kqueue stuff might be a great way to actually see who's
writing what, when.

Has anyone written the necessary parts to get this kind of a simple
filesystem trace?

g.


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Re: Gnumeric2 Won't Print Properly

2003-06-16 Thread Scott Reese
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 05:36, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
   What version of Gnumeric are you using?  How do you know what font is
   being used for printing?
  
  I'm using version 1.1.19 (upgraded to this version last night hoping 
  to fix the problem, but no joy).  I know what font it's using because 
  the font it's using is a highly stylized true type font that I have 
  installed and it's pretty distinctive.  Curiously, in further poking 
  around, I've noticed that if I double-click on a text field in the 
  spreadsheet, the text in the cell that I've selected becomes the 
  sylized font (called Abaddon) and when I deselect it, it goes back to 
  Helvetica which is what I've told it to use in the first place.  This 
  is very curious behavior.
 
 I agree.  I have 1.1.19, and I can't reproduce this behavior.  I have a
 spreadsheet done in Arial.  My default font is Bitstream Serif.  When I
 click on a cell, the cell remains Arial.  Only when I select
 Format-Cell-Font can I turn it to something else.  Printing also seems
 to work quite well to HP LaserJets.

I'm printing to a laserjet via cups, but the problem isn't with the
printer.  The wrong data is being sent to the printer (this is evident
from the print preview).

 You may want to comb through gconf-editor, and look at the Gnumeric
 settings, and see if something jumps out at you as being strange.  If
 so, click on the key, and select Unset key.  (For example, under
 /apps/gnumeric/printing).

I saw nothing in there that looked strange.  Actually, I didn't see
anything having to do with fonts at all.  I'm quite stumped by
this...could it be something that only happens on 5.x (I'm running
5.1-RELEASE...not sure if I remembered to mention that before).

Thank you for the tips and suggestions and I'll keep trying to get this
to work right.

-Scott

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software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread mell miller
hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering going that way, 
but before i go much further i have what is likely a stupid question but since in the 
past i've disregarded such questions thinking they were unimportant or that the answer 
was obvious only to later regret it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all 
software and hardware is window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this 
mean bsd users are left out in the cold or are there alternative releases or is most 
software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, mell miller wrote:

 hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering
 going that way, but before i go much further i have what is likely a
 stupid question but since in the past i've disregarded such questions
 thinking they were unimportant or that the answer was obvious only to
 later regret it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all software and
 hardware is window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this
 mean bsd users are left out in the cold or are there alternative
 releases or is most software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?

Hi,
There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do require Windows
as some of the work the hardware would normally do is handeled on the CPU.
However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware I've chucked at
it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work to but normally
it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware you have got I'm
sure we can help you

Rgds

Rus

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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 Hi,
 There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do require Windows
 as some of the work the hardware would normally do is handeled on the CPU.
 However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware I've chucked at
 it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work to but normally
 it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware you have got I'm
 sure we can help you

Yeah, you should be fine as long as you don't expect 3d acceleration on
the latest video cards. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, along with anything from
9500 up don't have 3d acceleration support, and anything later than a
geforce 4 from nvidia is missing 3d support as well.

Ken

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RE: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 I have the ATI Raedon 7500 all in wonder, and finding out if the tv
 tuner works in freebsd or not has been quite fruitless so far.

Google for gatos.

Ken

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  To: Rus Foster
  Cc: mell miller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: software/hardware question
 
 
   Hi,
   There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do
  require Windows
   as some of the work the hardware would normally do is
  handeled on the CPU.
   However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware
  I've chucked at
   it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work
  to but normally
   it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware
  you have got I'm
   sure we can help you
  
  Yeah, you should be fine as long as you don't expect 3d
  acceleration on
  the latest video cards. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, along with
  anything from
  9500 up don't have 3d acceleration support, and anything later than a
  geforce 4 from nvidia is missing 3d support as well.
 
  Ken
 
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Re: install PHP4

2003-06-16 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-06-16 11:45:48 -0500:
 Hi guys I want to install PHP4 from the ports tree, but  when I try to
 do it I  get a menu that doesn't have te option I need , I want to add
 tds support to my php installation,. How can I add that option to this
 menu? or how can I install it ?

I take it you mean FreeTDS. Choose one of the Sybase options.

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[no subject]

2003-06-16 Thread esayer1
FreeBSD-

What ports do i need to open in my firewall to run SSH?

E-mail me back
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Re: your mail

2003-06-16 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   FreeBSD-

   What ports do i need to open in my firewall to run SSH?

You will need port 22/tcp open

Rgds

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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread heikki soerum
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
Kenneth Wayne Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have the ATI Raedon 7500 all in wonder, and finding out if the tv
  tuner works in freebsd or not has been quite fruitless so far.
 
 Google for gatos.
Except that the Gatos drivers i general need an patched linux DRM kernel
module and/or at least the Video4Linux linux kernel subsystem.
To my knowledge freebsd doesn't support either.
(Although I'm a bit outdated since i gave up on gatos and
ATI-tuners/video inn/out chipsetts about a year ago.)

Ixian.

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getting config from a kernel [was: Re: What programs areinstalled..?]

2003-06-16 Thread Roman Neuhauser
don't hijack others' threads; you can start your own for free.

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-06-16 12:32:51 -0500:
 Thanks for this--very helpful.  Does anyone know how to tell what
 the options/programs compiled into the kernel are?
 
provided you have

options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE

in your kernel, you can use this:

strings -n3 /kernel | sed -ne '/^___/s///p'


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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 Except that the Gatos drivers i general need an patched linux DRM kernel
 module and/or at least the Video4Linux linux kernel subsystem. To my
 knowledge freebsd doesn't support either. (Although I'm a bit outdated
 since i gave up on gatos and ATI-tuners/video inn/out chipsetts about a
 year ago.)


I've had it working fine on my FreeBSD machine.

Ken

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RE: Sysinstall hangs during probing....

2003-06-16 Thread Doron Shmaryahu
Hi,


You have not mentioned where it dies but looking at your hardware spec it
may possibly be a udma setting !!

Kind Regards

Doron Shmaryahus

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Subject: Sysinstall hangs during probing

Ive tried 4.7, 4.8, 5.0 and 5.1R ( and maybe more earlier )...System is

ABIT BG-7 MB, 512M RAM, P4 CPU 2.26 GHz, onboard realtec lan, onboard sound,
6 USB, no firewire
internal graphics is disabled, 2 serial, 1 parallel port
MSI GF4 4200 video, 64 MB RAM
PCI hardware modem

NO ISA slots ( and no ISA boards ! )

During boot-up, no driver is attached to internal vga, SMBus or Multimedia -
these are all recognized, and it says no driver is attached.

I have a USB keyboard and have tried setting hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1 and
have gone thru the other hints, disabling
all hardware that isnt in machine ( and isnt already disabled ).

Am able to run redhat linux, at least to the point of partitioning it, and
have installed NETBSD (1.6.1) with success

Have been loyal to freebsd for quite a while, am frustrated by inability
to install on this machine

HELP !

Dave
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Working on PR's

2003-06-16 Thread Rus Foster
Hi All,
I'm looking for non-critical PR to work on and wonder if someone would
mind lending me a a bit of guidnace for my first time?

Rgds

Rus

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Compiling C code

2003-06-16 Thread Ronnie Clark
Hello all, 

I am trying to compile some C code and I get the
following errors:
windows.h: No such file or directory

Is there a library that I can install on my FreeBSD
4.8 STABLE box to fix these silly errors???

Thanks in advance for the help,
Ron Clark

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Re: Compiling C code

2003-06-16 Thread Kliment Andreev
 I am trying to compile some C code and I get the
 following errors:
 windows.h: No such file or directory

Are you sure that the program is not Windows specific?
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Please wrap your lines around 72 characters or so.  See:
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
mell miller wrote:
hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering going
 that way, but before i go much further i have what is likely a stupid
 question but since in the past i've disregarded such questions thinking
 they were unimportant or that the answer was obvious only to later regret
 it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all software and hardware is
 window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this mean bsd users
 are left out in the cold or are there alternative releases or is most
 software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html

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4.8 and NIS enabled client spawning listening UDP ports per process

2003-06-16 Thread brian
Howdy All


I have a very weird issue.

Im running a 4.8 Release box as a NIS client and for every process that
either logs in or changes running as user a Listening UDP port is created.

Im putting some sample output from ps sockstat and lsof to show what I
mean.  The problem is these UDP ports are listening ports bound to all
interfaces.

It appears to be releated to NIS because when i uncomment the +(etc)
from the passwd and group files it goes away for any newly started
processes.   I dont even have to turn off ypbind.

Ive tried to put ypbind in secure mode and well as non broadcast mode and
the same results happen.

Any ideas as to what this is? More importantly, any idea of how to get rid
of it?

Thanks
-=Brian

--Applicable rc.conf entries--
nisdomainname=nisdomain
nis_client_enable=YES
nis_client_flags=-m -S nisdomain,192.168.0.20

--sample ps awux entries-
root  189  0.0  0.1   952  656  d0  Is+  10:28AM   0:00.07
/usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0
www   191  0.9  2.1 12428 10808  ??  S10:28AM   0:00.44
/usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start -DSSL
www   192  0.2  1.8 10664 8968  ??  S10:28AM   0:00.34
/usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start -DSSL
www   193  0.0  2.4 13832 12296  ??  S10:28AM   0:01.41
/usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start -DSSL
www   194  0.9  2.1 12332 10728  ??  S10:28AM   0:00.47
/usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start -DSSL
root  221  0.0  0.5  5708 2484  ??  I10:30AM   0:00.54 sshd: brian
[priv] (sshd)
brian 223  0.0  0.5  5700 2532  ??  S10:30AM   0:00.69 sshd:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (sshd)
brian 224  0.0  0.2  1120  936  p0  Is   10:30AM   0:00.47 -bash (bash)
root  229  0.0  0.2  1116  956  p0  S10:30AM   0:00.93 -su (bash)
postfix   366  0.0  0.3  2280 1352  ??  S10:43AM   0:00.07 proxymap -t
unix -u
postfix   368  0.0  0.3  2272 1348  ??  S10:43AM   0:00.15
trivial-rewrite -n rewrite -t unix -u

--- results of sockstat -4 | grep udp -
www  httpd  241   16 udp4   *:984 *:*
www  httpd  238   16 udp4   *:989 *:*
brianbash   2244 udp4   *:1068*:*
briansshd   2236 udp4   *:995 *:*
root sshd   2217 udp4   *:996 *:*
www  httpd  194   16 udp4   *:1005*:*
www  httpd  193   16 udp4   *:1008*:*
www  httpd  192   16 udp4   *:1007*:*
www  httpd  191   16 udp4   *:1006*:*
www  httpd  190   16 udp4   *:1009*:*
brianimapd  1884 udp4   *:1010*:*
root snmpd  1856 udp4   *:161 *:*
postfix  qmgr   1789 udp4   *:1012*:*
postfix  pickup 1779 udp4   *:1013*:*
root ypbind  814 udp4   *:1017*:*
daemon   portmap 793 udp4   *:111 *:*
bind named   763 udp4   *:53  *:*
bind named   76   20 udp4   192.168.0.2:53*:*
bind named   76   22 udp4   127.0.0.1:53  *:*
root syslogd 734 udp4   *:514 *:*


results of lsof | grep UDP -
syslogd73root4u  IPv4   0xd5220e000t0UDP *:syslog
named  76bind3u  IPv4   0xd5220d400t0UDP *:domain
named  76bind   20u  IPv4   0xd5220c800t0UDP
homestar.home.towles.com:domain
named  76bind   22u  IPv4   0xd5220bc00t0UDP
localhost.home.towles.com:domain
portmap79  daemon3u  IPv4   0xd5220b000t0UDP *:sunrpc
ypbind 81root4u  IPv4   0xd5220a400t0UDP *:1017
pickup177 postfix9u  IPv4   0xd52209800t0UDP *:1013
qmgr  178 postfix9u  IPv4   0xd52208c00t0UDP *:1012
snmpd 185root6u  IPv4   0xd52208000t0UDP *:snmp
imapd 188   brian4u  IPv4   0xd52207400t0UDP *:1010
httpd 190 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52205c00t0UDP *:1009
httpd 191 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52203800t0UDP *:1006
httpd 192 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52204400t0UDP *:1007
httpd 193 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52205000t0UDP *:1008
httpd 194 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52202c00t0UDP *:1005
sshd  221root7u  IPv4   0xd52212800t0UDP *:vsinet
sshd  223   brian6u  IPv4   0xd52213400t0UDP *:pop3s
bash  224   brian4u  IPv4   0xd52214000t0UDP
*:instl_bootc
httpd 238 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52214c00t0UDP *:ftps-data
httpd 241 www   16u  IPv4   0xd52216400t0UDP *:984



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Re: Working on PR's

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 08:39:26PM +0100, Rus Foster wrote:

 I'm looking for non-critical PR to work on and wonder if someone would
 mind lending me a a bit of guidnace for my first time?

When you say PR, I'm pretty sure you mean Problem Reports, and not
Public Relations.  Even so, that still covers an awful lot of
ground. What sort of thing do you want to work on?  I mean, are you
looking for heavyweight kernel programming? Porting the latest JDK?
Rewriting the install system?

If you want to work your way into FreeBSD development, a good place to
start is this, and the other FreeBSD mailing lists.  There's quite a
few problems that pop up that can be solved by fairly easy patches.
Submitting a stream of PRs with patches for those problems will earn
you karma.  Then there's the documentation project: that's a
relatively accessible part of the system to get into if you can write
coherently.  Or there's the ports system.  Volunteers to become
maintainer for one or more ports -- or to write and maintain new ports
-- are always in demand.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Compiling C code

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Ronnie Clark wrote:
Hello all, 

I am trying to compile some C code and I get the
following errors:
windows.h: No such file or directory
Is there a library that I can install on my FreeBSD
4.8 STABLE box to fix these silly errors???
Yes, Microsoft Windows.

Programs written to run in the Windows GUI include this header
file to get the functions needed to create buttons and windows
and input boxes and all the other parts of the Windows GUI.
This header does not exist in FreeBSD (or any Unix that I know
of).  You either have to obtain a compatibility library (I don't
know of any) or rewrite the GUI part to use X-windows or some
other interface.
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering going 
 that way, but before i go much further i have what is likely a stupid 
 quesion but since in the past i've disregarded such questions thinking 
 they were unimportant or that the answer was obvious only to later regret 
 it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all software and hardware is 
 window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this mean bsd users 
 are left out in the cold or are there alternative releases or is most 
 software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?

While it is true that hardware makers target their stuff at windoz,
and many of them don't bother to make drivers for FreeBSD, the FreeBSD
community is very active in trying to keep up with the latest hardware.
Generally, most hardware except some very esoteric and/or cheaply
thrown together stuff is aupported by FreeBSD.New drivers and
updates of existing ones are becoming available all the time.  

As for software, last count I heard there are over 7000 ports available 
free for FreeBSD.  Many of those are very good, well made and reliable.
I expect you are mostly thinking of desktop and office stuff.  There are 
equivalents for most things and some of them are even superior to those 
that come with Win - word processors, spreadsheets, etc.   Some can be
a little disappointing and some require a little extra work to get
going and get looking just like you want.  But, it can be done.

If you are talking about server software, what is avialable for FreeBSD 
generally is far superior to what is available in the MS world.  Web 
servers, DNS, NAT, Firewall, proxy, network disk, etc, etc.

jerry
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free?

2003-06-16 Thread Valerie Andrewlevich
I'm a bit confused -- your website clearly states that freeBSD is a free
OS, yet each of the sites that offer the CD charge money for it.  Am I
missing something here?
 
thanks,
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Re: free?

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 I'm a bit confused -- your website clearly states that freeBSD is a free
 OS, yet each of the sites that offer the CD charge money for it.  Am I
 missing something here?

It's free to download, or you can buy cd's. Usually as far as I know, the
CD's come with some other extras as well.

Ken

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[no subject]

2003-06-16 Thread esayer1
FreeBSD-

I have a Firewall and i want to open port 22 for SSH for two different IP
adresses and it won't let me do this.  I need these two computers to be SSH
clients but i don't know how to make it work with the Firewall.  Also where
can i get a non-zip version of PuTTy for FreeBSD.

Email me back

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Re: free?

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Valerie Andrewlevich wrote:
I'm a bit confused -- your website clearly states that freeBSD is a free
OS, yet each of the sites that offer the CD charge money for it.  Am I
missing something here?
FreeBSD is free.
The CD is not free.
That simple.  Once you have purchased a CD you welcome to copy it or install
it as many times as you wish.  Spending a few dollars on a CD is one way that
many people contribute to the FreeBSD project.
Or you can download it off the Internet, if you have a fast enough connection
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Re: free?

2003-06-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I'm a bit confused -- your website clearly states that freeBSD is a free
 OS, yet each of the sites that offer the CD charge money for it.  Am I
 missing something here?

Yes.   You are missing that those companies that are shipping CDs are
recovering costs and supporting the FreeBSD organization by offering
a more convenient (for some) way of acquiring the FreeBSD distribution.

If you want it free with no charge, follow the instructions on the
site for downloading either the floppy images and putting them on 
floppy disk or the ISO image and burning it on CD and using one of
these sets to install the whole FreeBSD _for free_ over the net.
You do not have to buy a Cd set (other than some blanks for your
own burning) to get FreeBSD.

jerry

  
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dualboot, first fbsd, then xp

2003-06-16 Thread Tobias Roth
Hi

Is it save to install WinXP after FreeBSD? My IBM recovery cd goofed
up my WinXP and I'd like to reinstall XP only and keep my existing
FreeBSD slices intact. Same goes for the MBR, of course.

And yes, I will back up my data in any case, but I'd still hate it if
I had to set up my whole system again.

thanks in advance, t.
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Re: SSH/firewall problems (was: no subject)

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Please add a decent subject line to your posts:
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
	FreeBSD-

I have a Firewall and i want to open port 22 for SSH for two different IP
adresses and it won't let me do this.
We're going to need more detail on exactly how you're doing this.  Send detailed
information on the IP addresses you want to allow access, as well as what firewall
program you're using (IPFW? ipf?) and your current firewall rules.
The short answer, however, is that you open port 22 for the IPs that you want to
allow access.
Before you do this, however, turn _OFF_ the firewall and make sure you can access
via ssh.  If not, then the firewall has nothing to do with your problem.
I need these two computers to be SSH
clients but i don't know how to make it work with the Firewall.
It depends on which firewall you're using.  Please send specifics.

Also where
can i get a non-zip version of PuTTy for FreeBSD.
There is no such thing.  FreeBSD ships with an ssh client (called ssh)  You
don't need PuTTY.  PuTTY was developed for Windows.
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