Re: From Rumiancev Alexander
On 2005-04-01 23:29, RUmiancev A.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Which make ? /usr/bin/make ns# make -v GNU Make 3.80 That's wrong. Your /usr/bin/make executable should be BSD make, not GNU make. Have you installed GNU make with --prefix=/usr/bin lately? The correct /usr/bin/make binary is the BSD make, which should print some $FreeBSD: lines when you run the following command: % $ ident /usr/bin/make | head % /usr/bin/make: % $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crti.S,v 1.6 2002/05/15 04:19:49 obrien Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtn.S,v 1.5 2002/05/15 04:19:49 obrien Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/common/crtbrand.c,v 1.4 2003/10/17 15:43:13 peter Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c,v 1.13 2004/08/15 16:18:51 dfr Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/make/arch.c,v 1.60 2005/03/23 12:56:15 harti Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/make/buf.c,v 1.34 2005/03/22 07:42:51 harti Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/make/compat.c,v 1.56 2005/03/16 16:02:09 harti Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/make/cond.c,v 1.43 2005/03/23 12:56:15 harti Exp $ % $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/make/dir.c,v 1.52 2005/03/23 12:56:15 harti Exp $ Why this line ? .if !defined(S) Because this is valid in BSD make, but not in GNU make. 2) Have you changed your PATH recently or sym-linked GNU make to 'make'? No! But onces, when I am working in the system at root, couse some rebooting. Just it! I can't understand what you're trying to say :-/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multyple gateway or load balancing on two channels
Am Samstag, 2. April 2005 09:26 schrieb ' : Hello. How I use subject without help of providers side (wthout BGP, pptp etc.). You can use pf for multihomed routers, if you just want to use multiple lines for downloads. If you want to provide Webservices or anything similar with more than one line for redundancy/load balancing you have to BGP peer with your providers. But like said, if you just want to use multiple lines for connections from inside to the inet, look for rules like: pass in on $LAN route-to ($IF1 IP1) from $1stsubnet to any pass in on $LAN route-to ($IF2 IP2) from $2ndsubnet to any -Harry Thanks. Mar'yan Petryshyn. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp8sEJbnCwrk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: i did it again
On 2005-04-01 23:46, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 11:57 AM, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-04-01 03:46, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so termcap is like a x server but then for terminals ? Not really. The termcap(5) manpage describes this in (hopefully) adequate detail: % The termcap file is a data base describing terminals, used, for % example, by vi(1) and ncurses(3). Terminals are described in % termcap by giving a set of capabilities that they have and by % describing how operations are performed. Padding requirements % and initialization sequences are included in termcap. isnt that the same as xserver does for xclients telling the clients what they can and cant do ? In some ways yes, in other ways no. The X servers do a better job of abstracting away some hardware features than termcap. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: It bugs me... NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you going to do? See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :) The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user. Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly have no idea what you are doing. -- Best regards, Chris When in doubt, mumble. When in trouble, delegate. When in charge, ponder. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found FreeBSD Error :
Dear sir, I was installing freebsd many time with many packages like apache or radius server ...BUT after few days when i want to install new packages i always fail by gzip and error was : gzip fail to decompress i have take a new install of freebsd but in packges installing (tar or gzip) i have found this error. please help me how to solw my error .thanks __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found FreeBSD Error :
Dear sir, I was installing freebsd many time with many packages like apache or radius server ...BUT after few days when i want to install new packages i always fail by gzip and error was : gzip fail to decompress i have take a new install of freebsd but in packges installing (tar or gzip) i have found this error. please help me how to solw my error .thanks __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found FreeBSD Error :
Dear sir, I was installing freebsd many time with many packages like apache or radius server ...BUT after few days when i want to install new packages i always fail by gzip and error was : gzip fail to decompress i have take a new install of freebsd but in packges installing (tar or gzip) i have found this error. please help me how to solw my error .thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports compile error cvsup (libtool15)
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Mar 31, 2005 3:47 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed 5.3 base and ports on a new pc. Then i wanted to install cvsup-without-gui but it gives me a compile error at libtool15 ? Any ideas how to fix it ? how do you install base, ports and cvsup from cd ? Some advice (In a nice way) Read the Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html) Then, read it again, and finally - one last time. 80% of your questions can and will be answered if you only take the time to read, digest, and unsderstand. -- Best regards, Chris People will buy anything that is one to a customer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which mail server is the best for me?
I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xdmcp using gdm not working...
Hi! I've installed gnome 2.10 (as you know from my old post regarding the gnome power tools package). It works except for one thing... I've used xdm configured for xdmcp on my home LAN to connect from my Win box to FreeBSD. On the Win box I use Cygwin/X at it works fine... But now I've switched to gdm and it does not work anymore. I've enabled xdmcp in gdm.conf and made and verified the changes to hosts.allow. What happens is that it seems to open the connection but closes it instantly. I've tried about any setting I can change in Cygwin but I don't think the problem is there because I tried to use the chooser in gdm locally on the FreeBSD box and the same thing happens there... I've read gdm.conf a couple of times and Google'd to no avail... If I switch back to xdm it works again but I would like to use gdm... Any hints? Regards, Per ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
Kiffin Gish wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? Why not go the websites of all you mentioned. Read how to set each one up, read what the pitfalls are of each, then determine how much time you want to spend running one. -- Best regards, Chris If at first you don't succeed, blame it on your supervisor. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
Kiffin Gish wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? But to answer you - if you want fast, no frills, nothing fancy, Sendmail/qopper - I prefer Postfix, but then you may not wish to spend the time learning all the nifty things you can do with it. Postfix can be a chore - as with any mail server. It's all up to you and how much you are willing to invest. -- Best regards, Chris If at first you don't succeed, blame it on your supervisor. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I found FreeBSD Error :
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 12:50:45AM -0800, mansour ameri wrote: Dear sir, I was installing freebsd many time with many packages like apache or radius server ...BUT after few days when i want to install new packages i always fail by gzip and error was : gzip fail to decompress i have take a new install of freebsd but in packges installing (tar or gzip) i have found this error. please help me how to solw my error .thanks First, don't send your questions three times, we can read your email just fine the first time. Second, show use the exact command you're trying and the exact error you receive. It's important to be as specific as you can when reporting problems, because we can't read your mind. Kris pgpd79e4qJKwy.pgp Description: PGP signature
ntpd and ntp.conf
Hi! I am trying to configure my ntpd to sync my computer clock, but I can't figure ut how to do it. I don't want to use ntpd -q and just sync it on computer startup, because the clock drifts too much. How do I manage to get a properly configured ntpd without giving the whole world access to it? Thanks beforhand! Regards //Niclas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpd and ntp.conf
Niclas Zeising wrote: Hi! I am trying to configure my ntpd to sync my computer clock, but I can't figure ut how to do it. I don't want to use ntpd -q and just sync it on computer startup, because the clock drifts too much. How do I manage to get a properly configured ntpd without giving the whole world access to it? Thanks beforhand! Regards //Niclas man ntpd -- Best regards, Chris Washing your car to make it rain doesn't work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipfilter problems
Two days ago I've switched the firewall on my FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE router from ipfw to ipfilter. The firewalls are not my speciality and ipfilter looked simplier way to do NAT with firewall, because it separates NAT rules from filtering rules. The router has two interfaces rl0 (192.168.0.254/24) and rl1 (82.137.64.106/29, 192.168.5.1/24, 10.1.6.2/24). The ipfilter is compiled in kernel: == options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK /etc/ipnat.conf map rl1 192.168.0.1/27 - 82.137.64.106/32 /etc/ipf.rules pass in quick on lo0 pass out quick on lo0 pass out quick on rl0 all pass in quick on rl0 all pass in quick on rl1 proto tcp from 192.168.5.1/24 to 192.168.5.1 port = 80 flags S keep state pass in quick on rl1 proto tcp from 192.168.5.1/24 to 192.168.5.1 port = 3128 flags S keep state # local counter-strike server. No NAT. pass in quick on rl1 from 192.168.5.1/24 to 192.168.0.50 keep state block in quick on rl1 from 192.168.5.1/24 to any pass out quick on rl1 all keep state The problem On 192.168.0.0/24 network I have 6 machines. The router itself is an old 166 MHz Pentium box, but load averages are not bigger than 10%. When one of the machins makes dns lookup (the dns server is on outside - 62.73.78.2) it fails with timeout in about 9 of 10 times. ipfstat -t shows that a rule is created - something like this: Source IP Dest IPST PR pkts.bytes 192.168.0.4,1029 62.73.78.2,53 0/0 udp 165 9992 Any help will be appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
I think it'd be worth it to check out postfix. sendmail is insecure, and qmail is just too much of a pain in the ass to get working. postfix can take a bit of time, but it runs well once you've got it working. The only thing I've found is that whenever I upgrade ports, it breaks. It's actually something things it depends on (authlibmysql, authdaemon) that break, because certain config files get overwritten. Never figured that out, and it always causes me a headache when I upgrade. On Apr 2, 2005 2:09 AM, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 02:57 -0700, Pat Maddox wrote: I think it'd be worth it to check out postfix. sendmail is insecure, and qmail is just too much of a pain in the ass to get working. postfix can take a bit of time, but it runs well once you've got it working. The only thing I've found is that whenever I upgrade ports, it breaks. It's actually something things it depends on (authlibmysql, authdaemon) that break, because certain config files get overwritten. Never figured that out, and it always causes me a headache when I upgrade. On Apr 2, 2005 2:09 AM, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands Hey, All i can say is http://www.qmailrocks.org it has very simple guide for freebsd and linux distro's. its very easy to follow and there is a very helpful mailing list if you get stuck... So for my vote its Qmail :) See ya. Grant. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
My main complaint with qmail is that it's not very standard. The core of qmail hasn't been updated in a couple years (I think that's right, correct me if I'm wrong), so in order to update it or add functionality, you have to apply a bunch of patches from a bunch of sources. I like the fact that postfix is all centralized. On Apr 2, 2005 3:01 AM, Orb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 02:57 -0700, Pat Maddox wrote: I think it'd be worth it to check out postfix. sendmail is insecure, and qmail is just too much of a pain in the ass to get working. postfix can take a bit of time, but it runs well once you've got it working. The only thing I've found is that whenever I upgrade ports, it breaks. It's actually something things it depends on (authlibmysql, authdaemon) that break, because certain config files get overwritten. Never figured that out, and it always causes me a headache when I upgrade. On Apr 2, 2005 2:09 AM, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands Hey, All i can say is http://www.qmailrocks.org it has very simple guide for freebsd and linux distro's. its very easy to follow and there is a very helpful mailing list if you get stuck... So for my vote its Qmail :) See ya. Grant. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ndis : can't re-use a leaf (bustype) ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using freebsd 5.3-rel-p6 and am trying to get my wi-fi card going. But no luck so far... I have all the needed files for ndis (the ndis_driver_data.h in /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis) and have recompiled the kernel : # Support for NDIS (for the Z-Com XG-602MB mini pci card) optionsNDISAPI devicendis optionsIPFILTER optionsIPFILTER_LOG But my dmesg says: ... ndis0: PRISM 802.11g Wireless Adapter mem 0xfa40-0xfa401fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 can't re-use a leaf (BusType)! ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: init handler failed device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 ... A kldstat gives : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ kldstat -v | grep ndis ~253 ndisapi ~261 pci/ndis ~262 cardbus/ndis ifconfig shows no ndis0 at all... :-( Any hints on how to get this thing going ? Thx, Beni. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCTonn98oeEzEDrEcRAv5NAKCwCupyZWf0iv67IXMEZWR1SSNzigCdFjxu EGszy7NcoQuRcPH6E14ZIcA= =1uFo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*attaching* a file to /usr/bin/mail message
Does anyone happen to know how you would *attach* *not readin the contents of, but actually *attach*) a file using /usr/bin/mail? On my system mail has no -a (attach) flag, and some Googling told me mailx might solve the problem, but /usr/bin/mailx just invokes mail Regards TIA, -Colin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
On 2005-04-02 02:57, Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 2:09 AM, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? I think it'd be worth it to check out postfix. sendmail is insecure, and qmail is just too much of a pain in the ass to get working. postfix can take a bit of time, but it runs well once you've got it working. ``Sendmail is insecure'' is a broad statement that is no longer true, but let's put that aside for a while. The Sendmail version included in the base system of FreeBSD can handle the load of 10-20 users (the projected load of the original poster's machine) just fine. Help about configuring Sendmail can be found in the Handbook, the lists archives of this list and teh excellent articles posted by online journalists like Michael Lucas, Dan Langille, and others. Some useful references are: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/13 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200411/keeping_freebsd_up-to-date.html http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200301/esa3.html http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200302/rancid.html [...] A Google search for FreeBSD sendmail will reveal thousands more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *attaching* a file to /usr/bin/mail message
On 2005-04-02 14:08, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone happen to know how you would *attach* *not readin the contents of, but actually *attach*) a file using /usr/bin/mail? Not very easily, is one answer. You can probably get away with uuencode output filtered to the standard input of mail(1), but that's not really a MIME attachment. On my system mail has no -a (attach) flag, and some Googling told me mailx might solve the problem, but /usr/bin/mailx just invokes mail Other mail user agents do have a -a flag though. At least mail/mutt does and I've used it successfully in the past. If you are not stuck with mail(1) only, you can always use mutt for this. mutt -a /path/to/file [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *attaching* a file to /usr/bin/mail message
On Apr 2 at 15:47, Giorgos Keramidas launched this into the bitstream: On 2005-04-02 14:08, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone happen to know how you would *attach* *not readin the contents of, but actually *attach*) a file using /usr/bin/mail? Not very easily, is one answer. You can probably get away with uuencode output filtered to the standard input of mail(1), but that's not really a MIME attachment. On my system mail has no -a (attach) flag, and some Googling told me mailx might solve the problem, but /usr/bin/mailx just invokes mail Other mail user agents do have a -a flag though. At least mail/mutt does and I've used it successfully in the past. If you are not stuck with mail(1) only, you can always use mutt for this. mutt -a /path/to/file [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not stuck with mail, I use it with some shell scriptsbut yeah, I guess I could use muttthere's an idea I hadn't previously considered. Thanks!!! Regards, -Colin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From Rumiancev Alexander
On 2005-04-02 15:01, ?.? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you installed GNU make with --prefix=/usr/bin lately? Yes. GNU make 3.80 have been installed! Can I do smf that my system must work, I mean make can good works ? Please do not remove the freebsd-questions list from the Cc: of the thread. This way, others who may find the thread interesting in the future will not be able to find all the posts in the archives. I've fixed the quoting in your reply too, since it was messed up by your mailer :-/ It's a bad idea to overwrite /usr/bin/make as you seem to have done. The canonical way of forcing packages to use GNU make instead of BSD make is to set MAKE in your environment: % setenv MAKE gmake $ MAKE=gmake ; export MAKE I don't know what parts of /usr you have overwritten, but you might get everything related to BSD make to work again by installing BSD make again. If you have a /usr/obj tree around from a relatively recent buildworld, you can install BSD make manually by copying files from /usr/obj: # install -m 0555 -o root -g wheel \ /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/make/make /usr/bin If you don't have a /usr/obj tree around, copying a make binary from an existing installation in another machine may work too. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From Rumiancev Alexander
rumiancev-psu wrote: Hello! I have a problem! I have the FreeBSD 5.3. And some day ago, when I wrote command make the output was ... ! , , . : ) www.opennet.ru ) -. , freebsd-questions . , Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ``Sendmail is insecure'' is a broad statement that is no longer true, but let's put that aside for a while. However, it should also be pointed out that, historically, sendmail has at times, been more trouble than its worth. It does have a rather long history of being difficult to configure, and vulnerable. While it has gotten better, id like to throw my $0.02 in here and say, postfix is a nice elegant solution to the whole thing. I run postfix in darwin. Postfix is a drop in replacement of sendmail, offers (IMO) better options, more security, and in my experience, better documentation than sendmail. It also seems to play better with spam and anti virus add ons. I don't want to start a religious war here, but, sendmail in my experience has been more about overthinking the plumbing, and really isint geared towards novices. In short, you will find that postfix documentation is more in english and sendmail is more in geek. Which is fine and dandy. Ultimately both scale about the same, as postfix can be dropped into a sendmail environment and quickly converted. Postfix is like sendmail, without the blood, sweat and tears. If you want to get up and running, with 10-20 users, with a minimum of fuss, and really solid, non arcane documentation, id go with postfix. It's a great project, well updated, well supported, and much lauded. I would *not* recommend sendmail to anyone supporting a low user amount, in my opinion, the time/trouble to fiddle with sendmail is not worth it. Period, end of story. =) But, again, that's just my $0.02. Dont take my word for it however, look at both http://www.sendmail.org and http://www.postfix.org. The documentation differences, and indeed, style in which its presented, alone should sell you on postfix. =) I have zero experience with qmail, so I can't comment on it. I know people who use it have good things to say about it. Including some of the web based administration of it. -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ndis0 no carrier
Hi, on my Dell D800 with FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE I've managed to build and load the ndis modules, and gotten as far as the ndis0 device showing up on ifconfig. However, I can't seem to get a 'carrier tone', and the SSID doesn't stick. I actually have a DHCP server, so eventually I want to move the ifconfig-stuff to dhclient.conf but for now I just want to get the status to change for the device. Does anybody have a clue about what I'm missing or doing wrong here? dmesg ndis0: Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card mem 0xfafec000-0xfafedfff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci2 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:90:4b:62:47:92 ndis0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ifconfig ndis0 inet IP netmask 255.255.0.0 http://255.255.0.0 ssid SSID nwkey KEY channel 11 ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ifconfig ndis0 ndis0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe62:4792%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 ether 00:90:4b:62:47:92 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid channel 11 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 rtsthreshold 2312 protmode CTS wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:40-bit sysctl -a | grep ndis hw.ndis_filepath: /compat/ndis dev.ndis.0.%desc: Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card dev.ndis.0.%driver: ndis dev.ndis.0.%location: slot=3 function=0 dev.ndis.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x14e4 device=0x4324 subvendor=0x1028 subdevice=0x0001 class=0x028000 dev.ndis.0.%parent: pci2 dev.ndis.0.RoamDelta: 1 dev.ndis.0.MPC: 1 dev.ndis.0.RadioState: 0 dev.ndis.0.PowerSaveMode: 2 dev.ndis.0.PLCPHeader: 0 dev.ndis.0.frag: 2346 dev.ndis.0.rts: 2347 dev.ndis.0.NetworkAddress: dev.ndis.0.antdiv: -1 dev.ndis.0.BTCoexist: 1 dev.ndis.0.FrameBursting: 0 dev.ndis.0.Afterburner: 0 dev.ndis.0.gpio0: -1 dev.ndis.0.gpio1: -1 dev.ndis.0.gpio2: -1 dev.ndis.0.gpio3: -1 dev.ndis.0.EnableLEAP: 1 dev.ndis.0.Interference_Mode: -1 dev.ndis.0.ccx_rm: 1 dev.ndis.0.ccx_rm_limit: 300 dev.ndis.0.Country: US dev.ndis.0.Channel: 11 dev.ndis.0.WME: 0 dev.ndis.0.WZCCoexist: 0 dev.ndis.0.abcap: 1 dev.ndis.0.RoamTrigger: -70 dev.ndis.0.11HNetworks: 0 dev.ndis.0.IBSSGMode: 0 dev.ndis.0.IBSSGProtection: 2 dev.ndis.0.LegacyMode: 0 dev.ndis.0.band: 0 dev.ndis.0.BandPref: 0 dev.ndis.0.AssocRoamPref: 0 dev.ndis.0.RateA: 0 dev.ndis.0.Rate: 0 dev.ndis.0.ApCompatMode: 0 dev.ndis.0.10280001: Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card dev.ndis.0.Environment: 1 dev.ndis.0.NdisVersion: 0x00050001 dev.ndis.0.BusType: 5 dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber: 5 dev.ndis.0.ForcePIO: UNSET dev.ndis.0.NoRadio: UNSET dev.ndis.0.AdapterDesc: UNSET dev.ndis.0.DriverDesc: UNSET dev.ndis.0.Brand: UNSET dev.ndis.0.WPA: UNSET dev.ndis.0.IBSSLink: UNSET dev.ndis.0.PwrOut: UNSET dev.ndis.0.BadFramePreempt: UNSET dev.ndis.0.scan_channel_time: UNSET dev.ndis.0.scan_unassoc_time: UNSET dev.ndis.0.scan_home_time: UNSET dev.ndis.0.scan_passive_time: UNSET dev.ndis.0.scan_passes: UNSET dev.ndis.0.EnableAutoConnect: UNSET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
device_polling
I was building a new kernel today and came across an option I had not seen before. I googled some and concluded that options device_polling / options HZ=1000 would be a better way for my realtec network cards than the default interupt driven.. Is this correct?? Would it be better to have this polling in the kernel? (fbsd-4.11-stable) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Hi, My ISP provides me with a fixed IP address and a registered hostname. I use a Sitecom DC-207 that serves as a plain router, NAT and 4-port switch, to connect three Windows PCs and one FreeBSD PC simultaneously to the internet. The router gets the fixed IP address, whereas my FreeBSD system gets IP 192.168.123.1 with a fake hostname. The router is configured to redirect the usual TCP/IP server ports to the FreeBSD PC (e.g. ports 22, 25, 80 etc.), which makes the FreeBSD PC a kind of virtual server for my fixed IP address. One of the problems I encounter is this: Sendmail on the FreeBSD PC cannot deliver email, because there seems to be a DNS issue, because the FreeBSD PC does not have an official IP hostname. How do I configure my FreeBSD PC so, that sendmail thinks the PC has the official IP address/hostname provided by my ISP, which is actually used by the router? Or should I follow a different configuration scheme for achieving these goals? Thanks, Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 2, 2005 10:50 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: It bugs me... NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you going to do? See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :) The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user. Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly have no idea what you are doing. -- Best regards, Chris When in doubt, mumble. When in trouble, delegate. When in charge, ponder. I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD server behind router-NAT; how to configure sendmail?
Am Samstag, 2. April 2005 18:07 schrieb Rob: Hi, My ISP provides me with a fixed IP address and a registered hostname. I use a Sitecom DC-207 that serves as a plain router, NAT and 4-port switch, to connect three Windows PCs and one FreeBSD PC simultaneously to the internet. The router gets the fixed IP address, whereas my FreeBSD system gets IP 192.168.123.1 with a fake hostname. The router is configured to redirect the usual TCP/IP server ports to the FreeBSD PC (e.g. ports 22, 25, 80 etc.), which makes the FreeBSD PC a kind of virtual server for my fixed IP address. One of the problems I encounter is this: Sendmail on the FreeBSD PC cannot deliver email, because there seems to be a DNS issue, because the FreeBSD PC does not have an official IP hostname. You can set the following ine /etc/mail/yourhostname.domain.mc define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `host.name.fq')dnl host.name.fq is what ever your provider registred for your IP. Make sure there's also a correct A record for that hostname, eg. if it is spam.refuse.org then `host spam.refuse.org` must return your IP and `host IP` must return spam.refuse.org. If you don't have /etc/mail/yourhostname.domain.mc then you should cd to /etc/mail and type make, after you edited the file make all install restart You also may want to define masquerading, like: MASQUERADE_AS(`yourdomain.org') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`internal.domain.sth')dnl FEATURE(limited_masquerade)dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') -Harry How do I configure my FreeBSD PC so, that sendmail thinks the PC has the official IP address/hostname provided by my ISP, which is actually used by the router? Or should I follow a different configuration scheme for achieving these goals? Thanks, Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp4rvJ465864.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 10:50 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: It bugs me... NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you going to do? See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :) The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user. Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly have no idea what you are doing. -- Best regards, Chris When in doubt, mumble. When in trouble, delegate. When in charge, ponder. I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :) That is by far the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Name me one OS that allows yoo to pull crap like that and not have issues. -- Best regards, Chris If the faulty part is in stock, it didn't need replacing in the first place. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports compile error cvsup (libtool15)
On Apr 2, 2005 10:52 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Mar 31, 2005 3:47 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed 5.3 base and ports on a new pc. Then i wanted to install cvsup-without-gui but it gives me a compile error at libtool15 ? Any ideas how to fix it ? how do you install base, ports and cvsup from cd ? Some advice (In a nice way) Read the Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html) Then, read it again, and finally - one last time. 80% of your questions can and will be answered if you only take the time to read, digest, and unsderstand. Are you refering to this ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html Becuase now it works ? PS So here i am thinking base and ports and just a little program like cvsup would not ask much compiling time. (buzzer) MUEET!!! (/buzzer) I dont know excatly how many dependency's cvsup has but it has allot... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports compile error cvsup (libtool15)
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 10:52 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Mar 31, 2005 3:47 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed 5.3 base and ports on a new pc. Then i wanted to install cvsup-without-gui but it gives me a compile error at libtool15 ? Any ideas how to fix it ? how do you install base, ports and cvsup from cd ? Some advice (In a nice way) Read the Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html) Then, read it again, and finally - one last time. 80% of your questions can and will be answered if you only take the time to read, digest, and unsderstand. Are you refering to this ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html Becuase now it works ? PS So here i am thinking base and ports and just a little program like cvsup would not ask much compiling time. (buzzer) MUEET!!! (/buzzer) I dont know excatly how many dependency's cvsup has but it has allot... If you don't like to compile - use the packages. If you don't know what they are, they are binaries. Mostly intended for the users that don't wish to deal with cvsuping the ports tree nor intend on useing the ports tree. Packages are good for systems that have some what limited disk space. Also good for the user that does not wish to get to know FreeBSD. -- Best regards, Chris The early worm deserves the bird. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 2, 2005 7:06 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 10:50 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: It bugs me... NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you going to do? See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :) The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user. Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly have no idea what you are doing. -- Best regards, Chris When in doubt, mumble. When in trouble, delegate. When in charge, ponder. I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :) That is by far the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Name me one OS that allows yoo to pull crap like that and not have issues. Freebsd does so far :) i already moved the /root directory delete some /.hidenfiles and just about to get rit of /stand if Erick tells me my single user mode will still work , and it is only needed by sysinstall. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail
On Apr 2, 2005 8:03 AM, Ben Munat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Just use the mail command. (the man page for mail is smaller) i read man mail and there is nothing about attachments in mail unless reading a file includes reading a movie file ? Why don't you just use your favorite mua to send it? What about using something like icq, ymessenger, etc? Against my religion Any other mail clients that are a bit more teletubie because mail looks like is made by the same guy vi made. Not sure if you're asking for recommendations or just complaining about mail programs, but... Do you have a mail program installed? What are you using to write your mails to this list? Just use that to send the movie. If you're just using sendmail and that's the problem, are you running a windowing envrionment? If so, kde and gnome come with mail clients, I believe. Also, thunderbird is a good mail program from the mozilla folks. If you're not running a windowing environment, pine and mutt are command line mail programs that both do attachments (and how to do so is clearly indicated in the man page). b I use gmail and for some reason it doesnt want to sent it ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console mail client
On Apr 2, 2005 8:21 AM, Wayne K9DI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 07:20:04AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: So the one i could found where -elmo -cone -mutt -pine -mail ...SNIP... Wich one do you use ? I use Mutt. Mutt is a MUA, and needs to be used in conjunction with other apps like fetchmail, and your choice of MTA (like exim, postfix and others). Procmail is a very handy mail filtering app. I was introduced to Mutt by a friend who is totally blind. Sincerely and Respectfully Yours Wayne M. Scace k9bsd (at) k9di (dot) org so if i understand it corectly the hole mail thingie is based on -a mail client (mutt) -a mail sender (sendmail) -a mail storage (postfix) -a mail receiver (fetchmail) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpd and ntp.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-02, Chris scribbled these curious markings: How do I manage to get a properly configured ntpd without giving the whole world access to it? Thanks beforhand! Regards //Niclas man ntpd Better yet, check out the Handbook section. Much easier to understand than the manual. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCTtiyk/lo7zvzJioRAgjgAKCCkxa0d2mvEFs5+fBBtLpt9zuFJQCgk1j/ ahE3ffgtKE5lgXnqLwybSDc= =A0bp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console mail client
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 8:21 AM, Wayne K9DI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 07:20:04AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: So the one i could found where -elmo -cone -mutt -pine -mail ...SNIP... Wich one do you use ? I use Mutt. Mutt is a MUA, and needs to be used in conjunction with other apps like fetchmail, and your choice of MTA (like exim, postfix and others). Procmail is a very handy mail filtering app. I was introduced to Mutt by a friend who is totally blind. Sincerely and Respectfully Yours Wayne M. Scace k9bsd (at) k9di (dot) org so if i understand it corectly the hole mail thingie is based on -a mail client (mutt) -a mail sender (sendmail) -a mail storage (postfix) -a mail receiver (fetchmail) Not entirly ... Mutt, pine, elm, etc. can be made to use your ISP's smtp and pop server (for example). If you wish to run a mailserver, you need both pop and smtp servers (assuming you don't want to use imap etc.) Mutt, Pine, Elm, mail - are mail clients. The sending and rec. engines would be the likes of sendmail, postfix, qpopper, qmail, etc. Fetchmail on the otherhand, is a device that pulls your mail from your ISP (for example) and brings it local. -- Best regards, Chris If we learn by our mistakes, I'm getting one hell of an education!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *attaching* a file to /usr/bin/mail message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-02, Colin J. Raven scribbled these curious markings: I'm not stuck with mail, I use it with some shell scriptsbut yeah, I guess I could use muttthere's an idea I hadn't previously considered. If you're doing scripting, why not use an actual scripting language, and some tools actually designed to do what you're trying to do? For example, Perl has MIME::Lite, which does exactly what you want -- and not much else. I've used it to automate sending email based on the output of make test. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCTtoGk/lo7zvzJioRArQJAJ9JC2uM3P7+vHtChU3qhV/c0GBbIACgnObf JXdlF8zucP10wfTfZGl5kDE= =sflC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console mail client
Chris wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 8:21 AM, Wayne K9DI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 07:20:04AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: So the one i could found where -elmo -cone -mutt -pine -mail ...SNIP... Wich one do you use ? I use Mutt. Mutt is a MUA, and needs to be used in conjunction with other apps like fetchmail, and your choice of MTA (like exim, postfix and others). Procmail is a very handy mail filtering app. I was introduced to Mutt by a friend who is totally blind. Sincerely and Respectfully Yours Wayne M. Scace k9bsd (at) k9di (dot) org so if i understand it corectly the hole mail thingie is based on -a mail client (mutt) -a mail sender (sendmail) -a mail storage (postfix) -a mail receiver (fetchmail) Not entirly ... Mutt, pine, elm, etc. can be made to use your ISP's smtp and pop server (for example). If you wish to run a mailserver, you need both pop and smtp servers (assuming you don't want to use imap etc.) Mutt, Pine, Elm, mail - are mail clients. The sending and rec. engines would be the likes of sendmail, postfix, qpopper, qmail, etc. Fetchmail on the otherhand, is a device that pulls your mail from your ISP (for example) and brings it local. If you are unsure what these do, one way is to go to the ports tree of these apps, read the Makefile or the pkg_desr. Most of the time then have a URL listed where you might gain information in the forms of an FAQ, install process, etc. -- Best regards, Chris At the end of the semester you will recall having enrolled in a course at the beginning of the semester -- and never attending. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Binary search to track down a problem
Hi! I am trying to track down a problem with my laptop which was introduced somewhere between the release of 5.2.1 and 5.3 most likely related to ACPI (the laptop does not shut itself off when running halt -p). Before complaining about the problem itself, I'd like to gather as much information as possible or maybe even fix it myself. Currently, I am trying to find out when exactly the problem started with a method others have described as the 'binary search aproach' in the past. I have set up a jail environment with make installworld DESTDIR=... and with sources checked out from CVS. Inside the jail, I rebuild world, install world, build the kernel and install the kernel (still inside the jail). Then, from the host system, I copy the kernel from the jail's root directory to /boot and reboot to see whether or not the problem still is there. Then, I delete /usr/src from the jail and checkout the sources from the appropriate date and do the full buildworld, installworld, buildkernel and installworld again. Since rebuilding world and kernel including the clean step takes an awful long time I am wondering if there is something I can do to speed things up a bit? I am not so much worried about going from older to newer sources since this case can be handled by following /usr/src/UPDATING closely but rather the other way around. I have tried to manually build and install /usr/sbin/config inside the jail with a 5.3-Stable world and then build the older 5.2.1 kernel only. However I ran into some make errors so I figured I will go the fail safe path but that path really annoys me due to its slowness. Regards, Phil. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ndis0 no carrier
Mathias Bergqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on my Dell D800 with FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE I've managed to build and load the ndis modules, and gotten as far as the ndis0 device showing up on ifconfig. However, I can't seem to get a 'carrier tone', and the SSID doesn't stick. I actually have a DHCP server, so eventually I want to move the ifconfig-stuff to dhclient.conf but for now I just want to get the status to change for the device. Does anybody have a clue about what I'm missing or doing wrong here? dmesg ndis0: Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card mem 0xfafec000-0xfafedfff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci2 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:90:4b:62:47:92 ndis0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ifconfig ndis0 inet IP netmask 255.255.0.0 http://255.255.0.0 ssid SSID nwkey KEY channel 11 ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists I don't get what you mean with http://255.255.0.0 , but I think your ifconfig parameters are wrong. I use ifconfig ndis0 ssid ec60bfg3b4 wepkey 1:0x12345678911234567891123456 wepmode on to set up the encryption, then ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.49 to set the IP. Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 8:03 AM, Ben Munat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Just use the mail command. (the man page for mail is smaller) i read man mail and there is nothing about attachments in mail unless reading a file includes reading a movie file ? Why don't you just use your favorite mua to send it? What about using something like icq, ymessenger, etc? Against my religion Any other mail clients that are a bit more teletubie because mail looks like is made by the same guy vi made. Not sure if you're asking for recommendations or just complaining about mail programs, but... Do you have a mail program installed? What are you using to write your mails to this list? Just use that to send the movie. If you're just using sendmail and that's the problem, are you running a windowing envrionment? If so, kde and gnome come with mail clients, I believe. Also, thunderbird is a good mail program from the mozilla folks. If you're not running a windowing environment, pine and mutt are command line mail programs that both do attachments (and how to do so is clearly indicated in the man page). b I use gmail and for some reason it doesnt want to sent it ? Sorry... remember you saying that... and duh, I could look at the email address. I'd just install pine or mutt. b ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some kind of intranet update system for FreeBSD?
Hello! I know this has been brought up a number of times and I doubt that it is the right place to post to or even a right subject to raise, but still. It seems we lack some update system in FreeBSD. I have only 2 freebsd boxes, one serving as an internet gateway for the other. And whenever I want to update the latter one, I think about all the traffic that I'm gonna waste and CPU time to build and my own time to get some distros from one machine to another. I dream about a server running on my main machine, which gets queries from intranet freebsd boxes that want to be updated. The server negotiates with each client and acts as requested: 1.1) fetches a binary package, or 1.2) fetches a source package, or 1.3) finds a binary/source in its cache, and 2) builds a package if needed, and 3) gives binary/source to the client Is that so difficult? C'mon guys, just one step forward to perfection :) Very best wishes, Andrew P. P.S.: M$ SUS 1.x sucks so hard that I can't even find the right words to describe it. Sorry :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which mail server is the best for me?
On Saturday 02 April 2005 04:09 am, Kiffin Gish wrote: I would like to setup a mail server but am a little confused about whether to use sendmail, qmail, postfix or whatever. Basically my web server is a simple one to be used for personal use with maybe no more than a 10-20 mail accounts. What are the advantages and/or disadvantages of each choice, and where can I find more information comparing them? I prefer Courier. It is similar to qmail, but it doesn't require all the patching that it takes to make qmail usable. And unlike qmail, it attempts to comply with email standards. http://www.courier-mta.org /usr/ports/mail/courier - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console mail client
Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so if i understand it corectly the hole mail thingie is based on -a mail client (mutt) -a mail sender (sendmail) -a mail storage (postfix) -a mail receiver (fetchmail) As Chris said, not quite. The place to _begin_ on all this is is the Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-using.html I'm assuming you are on a machine linking to an ISP's smtp and pop3 servers? To set up e-mail as God intended what you need in brief is A. A mail transport agent - sendmail OR postfix, (or exim or even qmail) but not both. This will hand off the e-mail once you have posted it and will take care of one part of its journey into your computer/s. B. A Mail reader/composer, an MUA, mail user agent. Lots of these to choose from, mutt or elm being old standbyes. C. Something to fetch the mail if you are using your ISP's pop3 server Fetchmail is good. D. Something to sort the mail - procmail is a good mail processor Coming in the process is something like:- Fetchmail - sendmail/postfix - procmail - mutt There are opportunities for filtering spam at different points in this chain. The outward move is simpler mutt - sendmail - your ISP OR you can use something like Mozilla Thunderbird which is an all-in-one mail system by itself, and is possibly easier to set up. Good luck! atb Glyn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
snip I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :) That is by far the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Name me one OS that allows yoo to pull crap like that and not have issues. Freebsd does so far :) i already moved the /root directory delete some /.hidenfiles and just about to get rit of /stand if Erick tells me my single user mode will still work , and it is only needed by sysinstall. I suggest /sbin now and at a later stage /boot. There's already a /bin, right, who needs an /sbin. Do keep /usr/doc and /usr/share/man for emergencies. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.3 auto starting NFS by error
I just installed 5.3 production release version and did not select nfs server or nfs client during the install but nfs still gets installed. When I issue the ps -x command I see that nsfiod 0, 1, 2 ,4 is running. Is this still part of a dirty release process? This is consuming unnecessary system resources. I though this was reported as bug during 5.0 development? What gives here??? Am I missing some technical reason for NFS being forced on the default install process. Shouldn't this simple install error have this been corrected before 5.3 left development?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On 02 Apr Danny Pansters wrote: I suggest /sbin now and at a later stage /boot. There's already a /bin, right, who needs an /sbin. Do keep /usr/doc and /usr/share/man for emergencies. LOL* But I don't think our guy is gonna understand your humorous reply. Personally I hardly can believe he is really /this/ dumb, but after reading lots of his words, I'm not sure anymore. He's even worse than Anthony (he knew some things). This guy knows nothing and pretents to be willing to learn. I doubt that. Has he read manuals? Has he read the handbook as suggested? Don't think so. He's fooling around; he's fooling us. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Danny Pansters wrote: snip I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :) That is by far the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Name me one OS that allows yoo to pull crap like that and not have issues. Freebsd does so far :) i already moved the /root directory delete some /.hidenfiles and just about to get rit of /stand if Erick tells me my single user mode will still work , and it is only needed by sysinstall. I suggest /sbin now and at a later stage /boot. There's already a /bin, right, who needs an /sbin. Do keep /usr/doc and /usr/share/man for emergencies. Dan Are we to assume you are joking? -- Best regards, Chris The longer you wait in line, the greater the likelihood that you are standing in the wrong line. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Saturday 02 April 2005 22:24, Chris wrote: Are we to assume you are joking? Yes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Danny Pansters wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2005 22:24, Chris wrote: Are we to assume you are joking? Yes. I did like the idea of rm -r /boot -- Best regards, Chris The only game that can't be fixed is peek-a-boo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Saturday 02 April 2005 08:56, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 2, 2005 10:50 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: It bugs me... NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you going to do? See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :) The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user. Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly have no idea what you are doing. -- Best regards, Chris When in doubt, mumble. When in trouble, delegate. When in charge, ponder. I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :) Gert, seriously, what on earth are you doing? I've seen you on this list for a while ... has someone broken into your mail account and is writing these messages, posing as you? If not, I sort of understand your point, as in the general curiosity of hacking a system, but I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. There should at least be a goal or purpose to this, right? - jt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blanking the console
OK, probably a stupid question. I can't find it though. Sorry. How can I blank the screen on the console (terminal). Something like the linux setterm -blank 60 which will blank the screen after 60 seconds of inactivity. There must be a (freebsd) equivalent, but what is it? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Gert Cuykens wrote: You might want to check your init_path in loader.conf, in /boot/defaults/loader.conf it is set to /sbin/init:/sbin/oinit:/sbin/init.bak:/stand/sysinstall it would be sensible to replace /stand/sysinstall by /rescue/init What happens if i leave /stand/sysinstall and put nothing in return ? How will singel user look like ? The same. /stand/sysinstall starts the installer, it's the last thing the loader will try if everything else fail, then it must be because you have no system and would like to install one - right? But then, you might as well use an install disc. Asuming you have a working system there is really no use for /stand. All the files in /stand are hardlinks to the /stand/boot_crunch file. Some people like sysinstall as a postconfiguration tool, and documen- tation refers to this. But you can run it from /usr/sbin/sysinstall On the other hand it surprises me that /rescue/init is not in the init_path, for system recovery it is far more usefull than sysinstall, it will give you a single user like system with a shell. So, if you can't stand /stand - go ahead delete it - but don't sue me if you some day need it :-) Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:13:11 +0200 Erik Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people like sysinstall as a postconfiguration tool, and documen- tation refers to this. But you can run it from /usr/sbin/sysinstall I can't. Nor have I something like '/rescue/init' So I assume you're taking me (us?) on? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blanking the console
Am Samstag, 2. April 2005 23:11 schrieb dick hoogendijk: OK, probably a stupid question. I can't find it though. Sorry. How can I blank the screen on the console (terminal). Hmmm, clear is not what you mean? Something like the linux setterm -blank 60 which will blank the screen after 60 seconds of inactivity. There must be a (freebsd) equivalent, If you mean a screensaver, that can be done with `vidcontrol -t 60` or per config file in /etc/rc.conf blanktime=60 but you have to define a screensaver before. For example with saver=blank in /etc/rc.conf. For a list see `ls -l /boot/kernel/*_saver.ko` -Harry but what is it? pgpX8J80OD91m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Building /stand from /usr/src
How does one build all of the goodies in /stand from /usr/src? I have a FreeBSD system that was originally installed with FreeBSD 4.7. I've upgraded the system to 4.11 using cvsup and make world, but /stand/sysinstall still seems to think it's on a 4.7 system, and tries to find files on remote FTP server in the 4.7 trees. Thanks, Patrick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blanking the console
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, dick hoogendijk wrote: OK, probably a stupid question. I can't find it though. Sorry. How can I blank the screen on the console (terminal). Something like the linux setterm -blank 60 which will blank the screen after 60 seconds of inactivity. There must be a (freebsd) equivalent, but what is it? kldload blank_saver (loads the blank screensaver kernel module) vidcontrol -t N (sets the timeout time to N seconds) You can set these as boot-up default using /stand/sysinstall . Look for post-install configuration, console. -- Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 03:18:56PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed 5.3 production release version and did not select nfs server or nfs client during the install but nfs still gets installed. When I issue the ps -x command I see that nsfiod 0, 1, 2 ,4 is running. Is this still part of a dirty release process? This is consuming unnecessary system resources. I though this was reported as bug during 5.0 development? What gives here??? Am I missing some technical reason for NFS being forced on the default install process. Shouldn't this simple install error have this been corrected before 5.3 left development?? Try to calm down, and give us enough details to investigate your problem, e.g. a copy of your /etc/rc.conf. Kris pgp918oU8rGWn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Building /stand from /usr/src
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:23:01 -0800 patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one build all of the goodies in /stand from /usr/src? I have a FreeBSD system that was originally installed with FreeBSD 4.7. I've upgraded the system to 4.11 using cvsup and make world, but /stand/sysinstall still seems to think it's on a 4.7 system, and tries to find files on remote FTP server in the 4.7 trees. From the handbook: 19.4.12 Update /stand # cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall # make all install Note: This step is included only for completeness. It can safely be omitted -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipfilter problems
Angelin Lalev wrote: Two days ago I've switched the firewall on my FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE router from ipfw to ipfilter. The firewalls are not my speciality and ipfilter looked simplier way to do NAT with firewall, because it separates NAT rules from filtering rules. The router has two interfaces rl0 (192.168.0.254/24) and rl1 (82.137.64.106/29, 192.168.5.1/24, 10.1.6.2/24). The ipfilter is compiled in kernel: == options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK /etc/ipnat.conf map rl1 192.168.0.1/27 - 82.137.64.106/32 /etc/ipf.rules pass in quick on lo0 pass out quick on lo0 pass out quick on rl0 all pass in quick on rl0 all pass in quick on rl1 proto tcp from 192.168.5.1/24 to 192.168.5.1 port = 80 flags S keep state pass in quick on rl1 proto tcp from 192.168.5.1/24 to 192.168.5.1 port = 3128 flags S keep state # local counter-strike server. No NAT. pass in quick on rl1 from 192.168.5.1/24 to 192.168.0.50 keep state block in quick on rl1 from 192.168.5.1/24 to any pass out quick on rl1 all keep state The problem On 192.168.0.0/24 network I have 6 machines. The router itself is an old 166 MHz Pentium box, but load averages are not bigger than 10%. When one of the machins makes dns lookup (the dns server is on outside - 62.73.78.2) it fails with timeout in about 9 of 10 times. ipfstat -t shows that a rule is created - something like this: Source IP Dest IPST PR pkts.bytes 192.168.0.4,1029 62.73.78.2,53 0/0 udp 165 9992 Any help will be appreciated. Well, the short answer is: there is no keep state in the line pass in quick on rl0 all the dns reply you get back times out because your default rule is block and there is nowhere in the in rules for rl1 that allows the reply back. Some recomendations: 1) I have a bit of dificulty understanding your network setup - why do you have two private networks on your external interface? May scetch in a diagram. 2) Having default block can be done by adding the rules block in all block out all in the op of the ruleset rather than compile in the kernel. It makes it explicit. It also means that you can connect if no rules are pressent - this is usefull for installing while the machine is behind a gateway. Anyway, with your pass in all rules, you have almost effectively disabled the default block anyway. 2) For your security, in all pass rules, state from and to even if it is any it makes it more explicit. Split on protocols for security and control. 3) At least when setting up your firewall, use log in all block rules and enable ipmon, then you can see where your packets are blocked. 4) Use groups to structure your rules, and group them accordingly visually. It makes them easier to manage and for large rulesets optimises the firewall. 5) Always keep state! Doing so, all out rules only apply to the gateway itself, it makes the ruleset shorter and firewall faster. 6) You probably want to enable the ftp-proxy in your nat-rule and define which port-ranges are used for nat'ed connections. and a lot more you'll learn along the way :-) Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Saturday 02 April 2005 23:19, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:13:11 +0200 Erik Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people like sysinstall as a postconfiguration tool, and documen- tation refers to this. But you can run it from /usr/sbin/sysinstall I can't. Nor have I something like '/rescue/init' -STABLE (5.X) does or should. What used to be /stand is now (sort of) /rescue. If you have 4.X you'll still have /stand. If you updated through cvsup for a long time you might have both. In that case /stand is indeed a leftover. The sysinstall binary was moved to /usr/bin. /rescue is in principle independent of sysinstall. They're statically compiled binaries that can be used in case your (now dynamic, that is linked to libraries residing elsewhere, not with libraries built-in) root is broken or so. You could run, e.g. /rescue/ls. Everything in /rescue is the same statically built binary but they're not the same as the sysinstall binary. With 4.X this was so but not anymore with 5.X. Hope that clarified, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
dick hoogendijk wrote: Some people like sysinstall as a postconfiguration tool, and documen- tation refers to this. But you can run it from /usr/sbin/sysinstall I can't. Nor have I something like '/rescue/init' So I assume you're taking me (us?) on? I don't know which system you're on. Both are present on 5.3 and -CURRENT. Now, it's some time ago I installed, it may be added later as I have rebuilt my world with updated sources. Anyway, regarding /stand/sysinstall, you can safely delete it unless you use it for configuration/installation tasks. Now, I just looked at the dates on my directories, it seems a new /stand was installed last time I installed world - so you'll have to get rid of it again and again :-) Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Chris wrote: I did like the idea of rm -r /boot I hate that / in the beginning - can I get rid of it by 'rm -r /'? Really, while I can sometimes find it intertaining to wonder and discuss the reasons for whatever wierdness people my prefer, and see the discussion to go off track. I think we should just answer the question and if you can't do that, let it go. Some people want to order their socks according to colour, and if they are out of order their life is a missery. If this kind of person comes to me and ask if he can order his sock drawer according to colour, I'd say sure, your sock drawer will function perfectly with your socks ordered according to colour - as long as I can keep mine disordered according to your scheme. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some kind of intranet update system for FreeBSD?
Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this has been brought up a number of times and I doubt that it is the right place to post to or even a right subject to raise, but still. It seems we lack some update system in FreeBSD. I have only 2 freebsd boxes, one serving as an internet gateway for the other. And whenever I want to update the latter one, I think about all the traffic that I'm gonna waste and CPU time to build and my own time to get some distros from one machine to another. I dream about a server running on my main machine, which gets queries from intranet freebsd boxes that want to be updated. The server negotiates with each client and acts as requested: 1.1) fetches a binary package, or 1.2) fetches a source package, or 1.3) finds a binary/source in its cache, and 2) builds a package if needed, and 3) gives binary/source to the client Is that so difficult? C'mon guys, just one step forward to perfection :) Are you able to run NFS? If you share /usr/ports across all the machines, and build packages on the main server, everything will work pretty much the way you described... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
My rc.conf only contains the default serial mouse statements and the usbd_enable statement. I also get this msg in the boot log Mounting NFS file systems The only way to stop the 4 nfsoid tasks is issue a kill command on their task number every time you boot the system or recompile the kernel and remove the nfs statements in the kernel source. Answering no to the 2 questions in stand/sysinstall about nfs client and server should have prevented those nfs tasks from starting at boot time like in the 4.x releases. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 03:18:56PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed 5.3 production release version and did not select nfs server or nfs client during the install but nfs still gets installed. When I issue the ps -x command I see that nsfiod 0, 1, 2 ,4 is running. Is this still part of a dirty release process? This is consuming unnecessary system resources. I though this was reported as bug during 5.0 development? What gives here??? Am I missing some technical reason for NFS being forced on the default install process. Shouldn't this simple install error have this been corrected before 5.3 left development?? Try to calm down, and give us enough details to investigate your problem, e.g. a copy of your /etc/rc.conf. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help getting connected
Ok, I have built the ndis and if_ndis as described in the handbook. I have brought the interface up with: ifconfig ndis0 up ssid NAME wepmode on wepkey KEY It seens fine, except my IP address still shows up as 0.0.0.0. Also, I have to use DHCP. How would I bring the two NDIS modules at boot time, and set the ssid and wep key also using DHCP to get my IP address. I did create a file named /etc/resolv.conf with the following data: domain comcast.net nameserver x.x.x.x nameserver x.x.x.x What am I missing? ADjr __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf synproxy and fragments
On Apr 2, 2005 12:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running 5.3 stable. I've recently switched from ipfilter to pf to take advantage of the traffic shaping, and I've run into something I don't understand. I read the documentation on the synproxy option and it sounded good to me, so I replaced my keep state rules with synproxy state. After doing this, I noticed that my filesharing programs stopped downloading. I switched back to keep state for the rules that handled my filesharing traffic and the problem went away. Today my brother called and told me that he couldn't get to my website anymore because his firewall said that my http service was sending a fragment attack. I replaced synproxy state with keep state for the rules pertaining to httpd and the problem went away. Specifically, the http traffic rule was (formatted): pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 80 flags S/SAFR synproxy state queue(http_out,ack_out) Having tried a few other firewalls in the past, I know that some of them don't like fragmented packets at all. This week's events make me believe that pf's synproxy option is causing my server to send out fragments, and those fragments aren't well-received. Is this normal with synproxy? Am I misusing synproxy? Is this just a coincidence? In http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-03/2760.html somebody reported a similar problem. Maybe you could try his solution by leaving out flags S/SAFR =Adriaan= ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
video resolution with kde
I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on my laptop (Dell Latitude D600) and set up KDE 3.3. When I go into the desktop configuration, the only screen size I have is 640x480. What do I need to do to get a higher resolution? I believe the video card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, but I can't seem to find FreeBSD drivers for it. Sorry if I didn't include enough info here, I am very new to this. Thanks, Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ipmon logging
After testing with 5.3 on my workbench box it seems that ipfilter has changed between 4.11 and 5.3. The syslog.conf logging statement oflocal0.* /var/log/security is only valid for the ipfilter in the 4.x versions of Freebsd. security.* /var/log/security is only valid for the ipfilter in the 5.3 version and greater of Freebsd. The official handbook is written for 4.11 release. It needs to be updated for the 5.3 5.4 releases -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ipmon logging from the FAQ: 1. # I have IPMon logging to syslog, but syslog doesn't log anything, why not? IPF logs as local0 so you'll want something to the effect of: local0.debug /var/log/ipf.log in your syslog.conf. NOTE: There has to be atleast one TAB in that line, not just spaces. It doesnt do this though, I think, I could mistaken. In my rc.conf file I have ipmon_flags=Ds and the line in syslog.conf from above (I've also tried local0.* /var/log/ipf.log in syslog.conf) which should do what it says above. All this is documented in the Handbook. However, ipmon uses the security facility instead of local0. This means that whenever something is logged by ipmon, it gets loged to /var/log/security. If I change ipmon_flags=Ds to ipmon_flags=D /var/log/ipf.log it works perectly. However, when newsyslog rotates the file when it gets to 100k, ipmon stops logging. When I run nmap I normaly get a bunch of stuff logged. When newsyslog rotates the file it adds logfile turned over due to..., and then nothing gets logged after that. So I know that it stops logging after newsyslog rotates the log. I've been reading through the newsyslog.conf man page, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. There is a new write up of IPF in the official manual that explains in detail how to get ipmon to log to separate file. You have to give more technical details about what you have done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:50 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipmon logging According to every website I've read so far ipmon uses local0 as the facility name. However, on my FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 box, it logs to the security facility. The man page (in both 5.2.1 and 5.3) for ipmon, with -s for logging to syslog says, The default facility when compiled and installed is security. Can anyone explain this? I'd like ipmon to log to a separate file so it doesn't fill up the security log. I've tried having ipmon log directly to a file, and not using syslog, but it stops logging when newsyslog rotates the file. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could or should do? Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file mode on dynamicly created cua/tty devices
Roland, thanks. Kris, I'd read man devfs, but couldn't wrap my head around it in the time available. The comments in this email are for the benefit of future readers. I solved my issue my implementing a ruleset as Roland had suggested in his webpage, and applied the ruleset. And yes, the man page helped me through this process. * /etc/devfs.rules [chuck_usb=10] add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'cua*' mode 0666 * /etc/rc.conf # Set the default devfs ruleset. devfs_system_ruleset=chuck_usb * This is a sample of what I did at the commandline. # /sbin/devfs rule -s 10 add path 'cua*' mode 0666 # /sbin/devfs ruleset 10 apply # ls -laF /dev/cua* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 12, 152 Apr 2 14:00 /dev/cuaU0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 12, 155 Apr 1 00:38 /dev/cuaU0.init crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 12, 154 Apr 1 00:38 /dev/cuaU0.lock crw--- 1 root wheel 12, 70 Apr 1 00:38 /dev/cuad0 crw--- 1 root wheel 12, 65 Apr 1 00:38 /dev/cuad0.init crw--- 1 root wheel 12, 64 Apr 1 00:38 /dev/cuad0.lock I wasn't able to correctly add path directly. #devfs add path 'cua*' mode 0666 devfs: unknown command: add # devfs rule add path 'cua*' mode 0666 devfs rule: ioctl DEVFSIO_RADD: Input/output error Now I can hotsync and backup my Palm with Kpilot. Yay! On Apr 2, 2005 1:10 AM, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:12:05PM -0800, Randy Primeaux wrote: How do I set file mode to 0666 on dynamicly created devices, such as cua* and tty* ? With devfs(8). To set the permissions from the command line, use devfs add path 'cua*' mode 0666 This setting is lost at reboot, unless you put it in /etc/devfs.rules. See my freebsd page at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ for a more thorough explenation. Roland -- R.F. Smith /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ /No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 3, 2005 2:42 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? oh i forgot /cdrom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
Gert Cuykens wrote: FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? Dont forget rm -r /boot -- Best regards, Chris An optimist is a person who looks forward to marriage. A pessimist is a married optimist! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? Dont forget rm -r /boot but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ipmon logging
I figured it was something like that. I read the man page for newsyslog and well not knowing very much about proccesses and stuff, I just skipped over the pid part. After doing some reading I figured out I had to put in the path to the pid. Now when newsyslog rotates the log file it restarts (or relaods or something) ipmon. RTFM realy helps. After testing with 5.3 on my workbench box it seems that ipfilter has changed between 4.11 and 5.3. The syslog.conf logging statement oflocal0.* /var/log/security is only valid for the ipfilter in the 4.x versions of Freebsd. security.* /var/log/security is only valid for the ipfilter in the 5.3 version and greater of Freebsd. The official handbook is written for 4.11 release. It needs to be updated for the 5.3 5.4 releases -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ipmon logging from the FAQ: 1. # I have IPMon logging to syslog, but syslog doesn't log anything, why not? IPF logs as local0 so you'll want something to the effect of: local0.debug /var/log/ipf.log in your syslog.conf. NOTE: There has to be atleast one TAB in that line, not just spaces. It doesnt do this though, I think, I could mistaken. In my rc.conf file I have ipmon_flags=Ds and the line in syslog.conf from above (I've also tried local0.* /var/log/ipf.log in syslog.conf) which should do what it says above. All this is documented in the Handbook. However, ipmon uses the security facility instead of local0. This means that whenever something is logged by ipmon, it gets loged to /var/log/security. If I change ipmon_flags=Ds to ipmon_flags=D /var/log/ipf.log it works perectly. However, when newsyslog rotates the file when it gets to 100k, ipmon stops logging. When I run nmap I normaly get a bunch of stuff logged. When newsyslog rotates the file it adds logfile turned over due to..., and then nothing gets logged after that. So I know that it stops logging after newsyslog rotates the log. I've been reading through the newsyslog.conf man page, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. There is a new write up of IPF in the official manual that explains in detail how to get ipmon to log to separate file. You have to give more technical details about what you have done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:50 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipmon logging According to every website I've read so far ipmon uses local0 as the facility name. However, on my FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 box, it logs to the security facility. The man page (in both 5.2.1 and 5.3) for ipmon, with -s for logging to syslog says, The default facility when compiled and installed is security. Can anyone explain this? I'd like ipmon to log to a separate file so it doesn't fill up the security log. I've tried having ipmon log directly to a file, and not using syslog, but it stops logging when newsyslog rotates the file. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could or should do? Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 3, 2005 2:52 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? Dont forget rm -r /boot but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue i changed the fstab for the cdrom to /mnt and the compat and dist was empty so now my / looks like FX-53R ls bin dev etc libexec procsbintmp var bootentropy lib mnt rescue sys usr FX-53R i need some advice on the /rescue and /sys doh ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 05:31:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rc.conf only contains the default serial mouse statements and the usbd_enable statement. I also get this msg in the boot log Mounting NFS file systems The only way to stop the 4 nfsoid tasks is issue a kill command on their task number every time you boot the system or recompile the kernel and remove the nfs statements in the kernel source. Answering no to the 2 questions in stand/sysinstall about nfs client and server should have prevented those nfs tasks from starting at boot time like in the 4.x releases. NFS support will be dynamically loaded if you specify NFS mounts in your /etc/fstab. Is this the case? Kris P.S. Please don't top-post. pgp1eOdpKyNOp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 3, 2005 3:02 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 2:52 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? Dont forget rm -r /boot but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue i changed the fstab for the cdrom to /mnt and the compat and dist was empty so now my / looks like FX-53R ls bin dev etc libexec procsbintmp var bootentropy lib mnt rescue sys usr FX-53R i need some advice on the /rescue and /sys doh ? i also noticed /proc is empty but i read in the manual /proc Process file system; see procfs(5), mount_procfs(8). better ask Eric i was thinking before removing ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i delete /stand ?
On Apr 3, 2005 3:09 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 3:02 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 2:52 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: FX-53R rm -r /stand FX-53R ls bin cdrom dev entropy lib mnt rescue sys usr bootcompat distetc libexec procsbintmp var FX-53R Doesnt this look much better :) Next what do i have to do to remove /compat /sys and /rescue ? Dont forget rm -r /boot but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue i changed the fstab for the cdrom to /mnt and the compat and dist was empty so now my / looks like FX-53R ls bin dev etc libexec procsbintmp var bootentropy lib mnt rescue sys usr FX-53R i need some advice on the /rescue and /sys doh ? i also noticed /proc is empty but i read in the manual /proc Process file system; see procfs(5), mount_procfs(8). better ask Eric i was thinking before removing The folowing may be a tricky one how to move the /entropy to /boot/entropy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
This is a standard vanilla install from mini.iso cd with all the sysinstall questions answered as no. I have not made any changes to any /etc files. What was delivered in the install is what the current content is. The /etc/fstab as delivered does not have any nfs mounts. This is not a configuration error on my part. This is how the 5.3 system gets installed for cd. This is a problem with how the sysinstall process configures the system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 05:31:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rc.conf only contains the default serial mouse statements and the usbd_enable statement. I also get this msg in the boot log Mounting NFS file systems The only way to stop the 4 nfsoid tasks is issue a kill command on their task number every time you boot the system or recompile the kernel and remove the nfs statements in the kernel source. Answering no to the 2 questions in stand/sysinstall about nfs client and server should have prevented those nfs tasks from starting at boot time like in the 4.x releases. NFS support will be dynamically loaded if you specify NFS mounts in your /etc/fstab. Is this the case? Kris P.S. Please don't top-post. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
su: illegal option -- s
FreeBSD 4.11-Stable, bash 2.05. I am getting an error when I try to launch a daemon script manually as root, or in /usr/local/etc/rc.d: -su-2.05b# /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh -su-2.05b# su: illegal option -- s usage: su [-] [-flm] [-c class] [login [args]] the perms on it are: -su-2.05b# ls -la /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2750 Mar 29 19:57 /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh it is related to a web based application. The line in the script that calls this is: su -s /bin/sh -c $KohaZ3950Shell - $RunAsUser The su man page indicates that the -s option isnt supportedhow can I edit this so this function works?? --karl __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device_polling
dick hoogendijk wrote: I was building a new kernel today and came across an option I had not seen before. I googled some and concluded that options device_polling / options HZ=1000 would be a better way for my realtec network cards than the default interupt driven.. Is this correct?? Would it be better to have this polling in the kernel? (fbsd-4.11-stable) I would say yes. Check man polling for extra info. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 08:43:47PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a standard vanilla install from mini.iso cd with all the sysinstall questions answered as no. I have not made any changes to any /etc files. What was delivered in the install is what the current content is. The /etc/fstab as delivered does not have any nfs mounts. This is not a configuration error on my part. This is how the 5.3 system gets installed for cd. This is a problem with how the sysinstall process configures the system. The GENERIC (i.e. default) kernel is configured to allow NFS client support, which means that the nfsiod kernel processes are spawned at boot time. If you don't want this, reconfigure your kernel to disable the NFS client support. Or don't, because the resource usage is negligible. Kris P.S. You're still top-posting. If you can't be bothered to format your posts properly, I won't bother to help you. pgpeJT53wOj6J.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: su: illegal option -- s
In the last episode (Apr 02), Karl Agee said: FreeBSD 4.11-Stable, bash 2.05. I am getting an error when I try to launch a daemon script manually as root, or in /usr/local/etc/rc.d: -su-2.05b# /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh -su-2.05b# su: illegal option -- s usage: su [-] [-flm] [-c class] [login [args]] The line in the script that calls this is: su -s /bin/sh -c $KohaZ3950Shell - $RunAsUser The su man page indicates that the -s option isnt supportedhow can I edit this so this function works?? That's really weird su syntax there. Try su - $RunasUser -c $KohaZ3950Shell -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
page fault when starting system with new hard disk
FreeBSD 4.11-stable. details: FreeBSD enterprise 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 30 22:07:15 PST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEWKERNEL_20050130 i386 Put a new hard disk is my system today, and setup partitions for storing data files iso's etc. it is setup as a slave drive on the ide channel the master drive that freebsd lives on. It is a seagate barracuda 160 gb ata100. When I boot, I get this error: (couldnt write all of this down and it kept going:) ad7: Read commmand timeout tag=0 (something) -resetting (does this a few times with some other output) Then I get this: Fatal Trap12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =0x7800bc fault code=supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer =0x8:0xc01d72ec stack pointer = 0x10:0xc03698ec frame pointer = (same evil hex code) code segment = base0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def 32,1, gran1 processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, fopl=0 current process= idle interupt mask = hio trap number= 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... done rebooting in 15 seconds --karl __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
I think your missing the whole point. It's not suppose to be doing this. This is a release build error. In the 4.x releases the kernel had NFS support complied into the default kernel, but when you have no NFS statements in rc.conf those tasks in question are not auto spawned. Why would this behavior be changed in 5.3 to one that consumes resources. It has to be a mistake. If what you assert is true then when doing a source update to 5.3 why does these nfs tasks not auto spawn there. You assertion that its designed to work that way it just plain silly and only means you know not what you talk about. Time to submit another bug report so maybe its gets fixed in 5.4 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 08:43:47PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a standard vanilla install from mini.iso cd with all the sysinstall questions answered as no. I have not made any changes to any /etc files. What was delivered in the install is what the current content is. The /etc/fstab as delivered does not have any nfs mounts. This is not a configuration error on my part. This is how the 5.3 system gets installed for cd. This is a problem with how the sysinstall process configures the system. The GENERIC (i.e. default) kernel is configured to allow NFS client support, which means that the nfsiod kernel processes are spawned at boot time. If you don't want this, reconfigure your kernel to disable the NFS client support. Or don't, because the resource usage is negligible. Kris P.S. You're still top-posting. If you can't be bothered to format your posts properly, I won't bother to help you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3 auto starting NFS by error
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:25:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think your missing the whole point. It's not suppose to be doing this. This is a release build error. In the 4.x releases the kernel had NFS support complied into the default kernel, but when you have no NFS statements in rc.conf those tasks in question are not auto spawned. Why would this behavior be changed in 5.3 to one that consumes resources. It has to be a mistake. No, it's just intentionally different behaviour (check the source code history). If you're really that concerned about the minuscule resource usage involved, then you'd surely want to build your own stripped down kernel anyway to remove the many other things in GENERIC that you don't need, together with NFS_CLIENT. If what you assert is true then when doing a source update to 5.3 why does these nfs tasks not auto spawn there. They do, if you have NFS_CLIENT enabled in your kernel. You assertion that its designed to work that way it just plain silly and only means you know not what you talk about. *laughs* Right, that must be it, Bob. Time to submit another bug report so maybe its gets fixed in 5.4 It's not broken. Kris P.S. Third request not to top-post, next time you're going in my killfile. pgpmC4hWidldQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
question
To whom it may concern, I tried installing freeBSD, but I think I might have ruined the installation, because now when I try booting up my computer it says something like - Invalid Partition Invalid Partition No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: Invalid Partition No /kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: What should I do to fix this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI RAGE Mobility [9700]
Any way to get an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 working with 3D acceleration ? Andrew Heyn wrote: I would like to state that at one point, I did get this to work. This was also a long time ago, when the patches mentioned in some of the proceeding links had to be done.. (which were and probably still are XFree86 specific) http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/news.html http://am-productions.biz/docs/fujitsu-p2110.php leads to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building I noticed that I had to make sure I rebuilt mach64.ko and some of the X libraries regarding dri if I was to upgrade the kernel. Note this from the Wiki: The DRM is shipped with the kernel, so you shouldn't need to build it. If you choose to, simply run make make install from the drm/bsd directory. This is contrary to the suggestion to install ports/graphics/drm. The building referred to above is within the X tree. The history to the mach64 dri support may be of interest: http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/news.html (already gave this link) You can always (if you are patient) contact anholt who is rather busy on freenode.net in #dri. Beware, I asked a question there, and fixed it myself before I got an answer. Hope this helps more than my other post. It still sucked pretty bad once I got DRI working with my mach64, but... It was better... Thanks! Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Busby Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:23 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: ATI RAGE Mobility On Monday 28 March 2005 20:25, Edwin Mons wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:20:50 +0200, Edwin Mons wrote: I'm trying to enable DRI on my IBM ThinkPad A20m, which has an ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x rev 100 GPU onboard. I succesfully installed the mach64 DRM module, which shows the following lines in my dmesg: drm0: Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2X port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf420-0xf4200fff,0xf500-0xf5ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xf800 64MB info: [drm] Initialized mach64 1.0.0 20020904 on minor 0 However, when I start X.org 6.8.2, it doesn't show anything about DRM in the logfiles (attached). glxinfo reports it doesn't use Direct Rendering as well. Attached is my xorg.conf, as well. My questions: 1) does anybody know if it is possible to have DRI on this configuration at all, and 2) how does one get it to work? from kernel LINT file # DRM options: # mgadrm:AGP Matrox G200, G400, G450, G550 # tdfxdrm: 3dfx Voodoo 3/4/5 and Banshee # r128drm: ATI Rage 128 # radeondrm: ATI Radeon up to 9000/9100 # DRM_DEBUG: include debug printfs, very slow # # mga requires AGP in the kernel, and it is recommended # for AGP r128 and radeon cards. device mgadrm device r128drm device radeondrm device tdfxdrm options DRM_DEBUG You may need to add the device mgadrm Hope it helps. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question
Reinstall from scratch using cd install disk. Keep trying until you get it correct. That's how you learn FreeBSD. Follow instructions from this url http://freebsd.easyasthat.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan O'Donnell Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:02 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: question To whom it may concern, I tried installing freeBSD, but I think I might have ruined the installation, because now when I try booting up my computer it says something like - Invalid Partition Invalid Partition No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: Invalid Partition No /kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: What should I do to fix this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: su: illegal option -- s
Dan: Thanks, this seems to have worked. --karl --- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last episode (Apr 02), Karl Agee said: FreeBSD 4.11-Stable, bash 2.05. I am getting an error when I try to launch a daemon script manually as root, or in /usr/local/etc/rc.d: -su-2.05b# /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh -su-2.05b# su: illegal option -- s usage: su [-] [-flm] [-c class] [login [args]] The line in the script that calls this is: su -s /bin/sh -c $KohaZ3950Shell - $RunAsUser The su man page indicates that the -s option isnt supportedhow can I edit this so this function works?? That's really weird su syntax there. Try su - $RunasUser -c $KohaZ3950Shell -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:30:13 -0500 fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reinstall from scratch using cd install disk. Keep trying until you get it correct. That's how you learn FreeBSD. Follow instructions from this url http://freebsd.easyasthat.co.uk/ Is there something wrong with the installation instructions at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html I keep seeing you recommend that site (yours?) as the instructions to follow. If there's something lacking in the official instructions, wouldn't it be better to update those so they get a proper peer review? Best regards, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan O'Donnell Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:02 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: question To whom it may concern, I tried installing freeBSD, but I think I might have ruined the installation, because now when I try booting up my computer it says something like - Invalid Partition Invalid Partition No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: Invalid Partition No /kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: What should I do to fix this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device
On Mar 31, 2005 3:34 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is boot0 a bootmanager ? I booted cd2 went into fixit mode did mount /dev/ad1 /mnt cd /mnt/boot fdisk -B -b /dev/ad1 boot0 fdisk ask me to write boot record i said yes fdisk ask me to write partition table i said no but i still dont have my freebsd bootmanager back and windows get loaded :( what did i do wrong ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device
On Apr 3, 2005 7:22 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 31, 2005 3:34 AM, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is boot0 a bootmanager ? I booted cd2 went into fixit mode did mount /dev/ad1 /mnt cd /mnt/boot fdisk -B -b /dev/ad1 boot0 fdisk ask me to write boot record i said yes fdisk ask me to write partition table i said no but i still dont have my freebsd bootmanager back and windows get loaded :( what did i do wrong ? i did it again but i answert 2 times yes now i have a boot manager this time but only f1 (windows) works when i press f2 nothing happens ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question
Randy Pratt wrote: Is there something wrong with the installation instructions at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html I keep seeing you recommend that site (yours?) as the instructions to follow. If there's something lacking in the official instructions, wouldn't it be better to update those so they get a proper peer review? Don't know if I'm out of topic here, but 2.12 Advanced Installation Guide seems to be out-of-date for 5.X install. Also, nobody seems to know how to create 5.X install floppies for headless machines. When I asked for it, all I got were the 4.X solutions, which, I think, do not work for 5.X. Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPFILTER and NFS
Howdy, Trying to get IPFILTER and NFS working. A google search didn't show much about my specific issue. With ipfilter working, nfs initially works, until someone tries to login. Then it stops working. With my firewall down on the NFS-CLIENT machine, it works fine. Any ideas? It appears to be an issue with random ports Thanks, Matt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]