localization management tool which works in FreeBSD
Hello, Is ther some localization management tool which runs in FreeBSD and supports - connectors to CVS or SVN (i.e. pulls/stores the source and translated files there) - extracts text pieces for translations from various file formats, like XML, HTML, PO, ASCII, ... presents these extracted strings for translation and writes the target file with the translated strings; - keeps somehow track of already translated text pieces and offers the translation nextime the (modified) source file is opened again; - does some checks, for example if the length of the translated string will fit, some kind of aspell/ispell checks, ... - export/import of extracted strings and its translation to give a way the work of translation to translators; - GUI Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
Steve Bertrand said the following on 08/26/2009 01:33 AM: In this case, OP, look for: - directories named as such: -- ... -- . .. -- . . -- etc, particularly under: -- /var/tmp -- /tmp -- or anywhere else the [gu]id of the webserver could possibly write to Thanks for the comments, Steve. This has indeed been the case here: there was a bunch of files installed by user 'www' (the webserver) in a directory called ., in /tmp ; the script itself was in /tmp Someone has suggested to me that the vulnerability might have been in the RoundCube webmail package which I had installed: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-0413 Cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerability in RoundCube Webmail (roundcubemail) 0.2 stable allows remote attackers to inject arbitrary web script or HTML via the background attribute embedded in an HTML e-mail message. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://www.lim.nl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
Colin Brace wrote: CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: Are these files available in a tarball someplace public, for those of us who enjoy performing autopsies on virii? Sure thing: http://silenceisdefeat.com/~cbrace/www_badstuff.gz this tarball contains tmpfile which is the misbehaving script as well as the contents of a directory called ., which has a bunch of source code and so on. As indicated earlier, this stuff was installed by user 'www'. It should be unpacked in an empty directory. Oops, I missed six more files written by www to /tmp. Here they are: http://silenceisdefeat.com/~cbrace/www_badstuff-2.gz - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/what-www-perl-script-is-running--tp25112050p25149271.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
Colin Brace wrote: CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: Are these files available in a tarball someplace public, for those of us who enjoy performing autopsies on virii? ah, another directory found in /tmp with files written by www called .bash/ Contents here: http://silenceisdefeat.com/~cbrace/www_badstuff-3.gz Sorry about the multiple tarballs. - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/what-www-perl-script-is-running--tp25112050p25149559.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Removing firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 from system
I recently installed openoffice.org-3.1.0_2 on my system. For some reason it brought in firefox-2 also. I all ready had Firefox-3.5 installed. I do not want or need two different installations of Firefox on my system. Firefox-2 appears to be required by these programs. /var/db/pkg $ pkg_info -R firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 Information for firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1: Required by: gegl-0.0.22_6 gimp-2.6.6,2 gimp-app-2.6.6_3,1 gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_2 gimp-help-2.4.2_1 librsvg2-2.26.0_1 I am not sure why these programs require Firefox-2 since Firefox-3.5 was installed prior to their installation. Is there any way I can safely remove Firefox-2 and force the use of Firefox-3.5 instead without breaking anything? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Harp not on that string. William Shakespeare, Henry VI ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE3 -- KDE4
On Friday 07 August 2009 16:12:03 Andrew Gould wrote: Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in resource consumption? As I see it, KDE4 fell in the Vista trap. I tried KDE4 and was showered with eye candy effects, some of which couldn't even be disabled. Also, quite a few features I used in KDE3 were missing from KDE4. I never understood the need for transparent windows. If you're working in a window you want to concentrate on its contents, not on stuff that's happening beneath it. It breaks the flow. I think it's indicative of the ritalin-generation of teens who can't concentrate for two minutes and need to constantly tweet about nonsense. Geez, I'm getting old ;-) In my time, we didn't have color screens. We had machine code on the bare metal, and a USER PORT to hook up your hardware. Greetings, -- The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across the Internet is simply amazing. - Vinod Valloppillil http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween4.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Firefox 3.5...
I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? Thanks for any thoughts. Peter Harrison. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com:
--On Tuesday, August 25, 2009 08:30:17 -0500 Colin Brace
c...@lim.nl
wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
You can add an ipfw rule to prevent the script from calling
home,
which
will effectively render it neutered until you can track down
and
actually
_fix_ the problem.
Mike Bristow above wrote: The script is talking to
94.102.51.57 on
port
7000. OK, so I how do I know what port the script is using for
outgoing
traffic on MY box? 7000 is the remote host port, right?
FWIW, here are my core PF lines:
pass out quick on $ext_if proto 41
pass out quick on gif0 inet6
pass in quick on gif0 inet6 proto icmp6
block in log
That is to say: nothing is allowed in unless explicitly allowed
Everything allowed out.
(plus some ipv6 stuff I was testing with a tunnel)
The problem with blocking outbound ports is that it breaks things
in
odd
ways.
For example, your mail server listens on port 25 (and possibly
465 as
well) but
it communicates with connecting clients on whatever ethereal port
the
client
decided to use. If the port the client selects happens to be in
a
range
that
you are blocking, communication will be impossible and the client
will
report
that your mail server is non-responsive.
You're doing it wrong. Block on the destination port _only_ and
you
don't
care about the ephemeral ports.
What ports would you block then when you're trying to run a
webserver?
My point (which is presented in examples below) is that you block
everything
and only allow what is needed (usually only dns and ntp, possibly smtp
if
the web server needs to send mail)
That single statement above was directed specifically at the comment
about
it being impossible to predict (and thus block) ephemeral source ports.
He's
right about that, and that's why filtering on the destination port is
the
more common practice.
Of course, that caused me to create an email that seems to contradict
itself, if you don't notice that it's two answers to two different
comments.
My point was that it's unfeasible to block by destination point. You can
only block by destination port if it's a known quantity, and the
destination
port is ephemeral in the question I posed(which what the OP had an issue
with).
Please read the entire email before you respond. My last example below
demonstrates how to do what you call unfeasible.
It's much easier to block outgoing ports for services you *don't*
want to
offer, but, if the service isn't running anyway, blocking the
port is
non-productive.
You're obviously misunderstanding me completely. Your not blocking
incoming
connections, your preventing outgoing ones, which means there _is_
no
service running on your local machine.
For example, a server that is _only_ web (with SSH for admin) could
have
a ruleset like:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port
{25,587,465,22}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto tcp from me to any port {25} keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port {53,123}
keep
state
block all
(note that's only an example, there may be some fine points I'm
missing)
One thing that had not yet been mentioned when I posted my earlier
comment,
is that this system is a combination firewall/web server. That
makes
the
rules more complicated, but the setup is still possible:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port {80} keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port {53,123}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if from $internal_network to any all keep
state
block all
Which allows limited outgoing traffic originating from the box
itself,
but allows unlimited outgoing traffic from systems on
$internal_network.
I've done this with great success. In fact, I had a fun time where
a
client in question was infected with viruses out the wazoo, but the
viruses never spread off their
Can partitions span more than one drive?
Now that I've got my rsnapshot backup server working beautifully, backing up several servers to a central backup server (I like this a lot), I have a problem... I built my backup server from a machine I had lying around. It has two 140G hard drives. I dedicated one drive to a /backup partition. Unfortunately, that is now running at 88% capacity... i.e., only 16G left... Now that I know this approach is going to work, I'm going to run out and buy a big drive. Question: is it possible to just expand my existing /backup partition to encompass both the current drive and the new drive? I'm guessing not, since Chapter 8 in Absolute FreeBSD says that a partition is part of a slice, which is part of a physical drive, but maybe some bright person has come up with an app that overcomes that limitation. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE3 -- KDE4
On August 26, 2009 06:50:00 am Michiel Overtoom wrote: On Friday 07 August 2009 16:12:03 Andrew Gould wrote: Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in resource consumption? As I see it, KDE4 fell in the Vista trap. I tried KDE4 and was showered with eye candy effects, some of which couldn't even be disabled. Also, quite a few features I used in KDE3 were missing from KDE4. I never understood the need for transparent windows. If you're working in a window you want to concentrate on its contents, not on stuff that's happening beneath it. It breaks the flow. I think it's indicative of the ritalin-generation of teens who can't concentrate for two minutes and need to constantly tweet about nonsense. Geez, I'm getting old ;-) In my time, we didn't have color screens. We had machine code on the bare metal, and a USER PORT to hook up your hardware. Greetings, The need for semi-transparent windows is a big question in my mind too. I suspect it has been implemented because it is possible, and initially looks 'cool'. But it seems to be a distraction from actually doing useful work. Much better to turn it off, IMHO. -- Mike Jeays http://www.jeays.ca http://www.rotarycpmm.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RSEC installation, anyone tried?
Hi folks, did anyone tried to install rsec on freebsd 7.2? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can partitions span more than one drive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Almberg wrote: Now that I've got my rsnapshot backup server working beautifully, backing up several servers to a central backup server (I like this a lot), I have a problem... I built my backup server from a machine I had lying around. It has two 140G hard drives. I dedicated one drive to a /backup partition. Unfortunately, that is now running at 88% capacity... i.e., only 16G left... Now that I know this approach is going to work, I'm going to run out and buy a big drive. Question: is it possible to just expand my existing /backup partition to encompass both the current drive and the new drive? I'm guessing not, since Chapter 8 in Absolute FreeBSD says that a partition is part of a slice, which is part of a physical drive, but maybe some bright person has come up with an app that overcomes that limitation. Thanks: John Hi John, I haven't done much with any of these solutions yet, but I think each one can do what you want, with various pros/cons: Vinum: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/vinum-vinum.html RAID0 striping: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/RAID0,_Software,_How_to_setup ZFS: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html Hope that helps get you started, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFKlTNy0sRouByUApARAuIfAKCSSxrcZxS7t4U1dZZOdZ6Taoxs8gCgrLrC BFLKz7VNBHEYTpoTQ25jnm8= =pM8t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote:
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com:
--On Tuesday, August 25, 2009 08:30:17 -0500 Colin Brace
c...@lim.nl
wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
You can add an ipfw rule to prevent the script from
calling
home,
which
will effectively render it neutered until you can track
down
and
actually
_fix_ the problem.
Mike Bristow above wrote: The script is talking to
94.102.51.57 on
port
7000. OK, so I how do I know what port the script is using
for
outgoing
traffic on MY box? 7000 is the remote host port, right?
FWIW, here are my core PF lines:
pass out quick on $ext_if proto 41
pass out quick on gif0 inet6
pass in quick on gif0 inet6 proto icmp6
block in log
That is to say: nothing is allowed in unless explicitly
allowed
Everything allowed out.
(plus some ipv6 stuff I was testing with a tunnel)
The problem with blocking outbound ports is that it breaks
things
in
odd
ways.
For example, your mail server listens on port 25 (and
possibly
465 as
well) but
it communicates with connecting clients on whatever ethereal
port
the
client
decided to use. If the port the client selects happens to be
in
a
range
that
you are blocking, communication will be impossible and the
client
will
report
that your mail server is non-responsive.
You're doing it wrong. Block on the destination port _only_
and
you
don't
care about the ephemeral ports.
What ports would you block then when you're trying to run a
webserver?
My point (which is presented in examples below) is that you block
everything
and only allow what is needed (usually only dns and ntp, possibly
smtp
if
the web server needs to send mail)
That single statement above was directed specifically at the
comment
about
it being impossible to predict (and thus block) ephemeral source
ports.
He's
right about that, and that's why filtering on the destination port
is
the
more common practice.
Of course, that caused me to create an email that seems to
contradict
itself, if you don't notice that it's two answers to two different
comments.
My point was that it's unfeasible to block by destination point. You
can
only block by destination port if it's a known quantity, and the
destination
port is ephemeral in the question I posed(which what the OP had an
issue
with).
Please read the entire email before you respond. My last example below
demonstrates how to do what you call unfeasible.
It's much easier to block outgoing ports for services you
*don't*
want to
offer, but, if the service isn't running anyway, blocking the
port is
non-productive.
You're obviously misunderstanding me completely. Your not
blocking
incoming
connections, your preventing outgoing ones, which means there
_is_
no
service running on your local machine.
For example, a server that is _only_ web (with SSH for admin)
could
have
a ruleset like:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port
{25,587,465,22}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto tcp from me to any port {25}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port
{53,123}
keep
state
block all
(note that's only an example, there may be some fine points I'm
missing)
One thing that had not yet been mentioned when I posted my
earlier
comment,
is that this system is a combination firewall/web server. That
makes
the
rules more complicated, but the setup is still possible:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port {80}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port
{53,123}
Re: what www perl script is running?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote:
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com:
--On Tuesday, August 25, 2009 08:30:17 -0500 Colin Brace
c...@lim.nl
wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
You can add an ipfw rule to prevent the script from
calling
home,
which
will effectively render it neutered until you can track
down
and
actually
_fix_ the problem.
Mike Bristow above wrote: The script is talking to
94.102.51.57 on
port
7000. OK, so I how do I know what port the script is using
for
outgoing
traffic on MY box? 7000 is the remote host port, right?
FWIW, here are my core PF lines:
pass out quick on $ext_if proto 41
pass out quick on gif0 inet6
pass in quick on gif0 inet6 proto icmp6
block in log
That is to say: nothing is allowed in unless explicitly
allowed
Everything allowed out.
(plus some ipv6 stuff I was testing with a tunnel)
The problem with blocking outbound ports is that it breaks
things
in
odd
ways.
For example, your mail server listens on port 25 (and
possibly
465 as
well) but
it communicates with connecting clients on whatever ethereal
port
the
client
decided to use. If the port the client selects happens to be
in
a
range
that
you are blocking, communication will be impossible and the
client
will
report
that your mail server is non-responsive.
You're doing it wrong. Block on the destination port _only_
and
you
don't
care about the ephemeral ports.
What ports would you block then when you're trying to run a
webserver?
My point (which is presented in examples below) is that you block
everything
and only allow what is needed (usually only dns and ntp, possibly
smtp
if
the web server needs to send mail)
That single statement above was directed specifically at the
comment
about
it being impossible to predict (and thus block) ephemeral source
ports.
He's
right about that, and that's why filtering on the destination port
is
the
more common practice.
Of course, that caused me to create an email that seems to
contradict
itself, if you don't notice that it's two answers to two different
comments.
My point was that it's unfeasible to block by destination point. You
can
only block by destination port if it's a known quantity, and the
destination
port is ephemeral in the question I posed(which what the OP had an
issue
with).
Please read the entire email before you respond. My last example below
demonstrates how to do what you call unfeasible.
It's much easier to block outgoing ports for services you
*don't*
want to
offer, but, if the service isn't running anyway, blocking the
port is
non-productive.
You're obviously misunderstanding me completely. Your not
blocking
incoming
connections, your preventing outgoing ones, which means there
_is_
no
service running on your local machine.
For example, a server that is _only_ web (with SSH for admin)
could
have
a ruleset like:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port
{25,587,465,22}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto tcp from me to any port {25}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port
{53,123}
keep
state
block all
(note that's only an example, there may be some fine points I'm
missing)
One thing that had not yet been mentioned when I posted my
earlier
comment,
is that this system is a combination firewall/web server. That
makes
the
rules more complicated, but the setup is still possible:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port {80}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port
{53,123}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if from $internal_network to any all
keep
state
block all
Which allows limited outgoing traffic originating from the box
itself,
but allows
Firefox 3.5 on FBSD
Hi, Well, I installed firefox 3.5 on my box at home but it wasn't working correctly. Every time I'd start it I'd get, Bad system call (core dump), or something similar. Does anyone here run firefox 3.5 on their box? If so, what is the trick? Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Serial console trouble: loader and login works, but no kernel messages
On Aug 23, 2009, at 14:18, Thomas Backman wrote: First off: Not subscribed to this list, please make sure to Cc me if you don't reply directly. :) Anyway, I finally got my null modem cable, and plugged in in between a machine running 8.0-BETA2 and one running WinXP using Hyperterminal. My settings: /boot/loader.conf: boot_multicons=YES boot_serial=YES comconsole_speed=115200 console=comconsole,vidconsole /etc/ttys: # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. ttyu0 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100 on secure /boot.config (which is read properly): -Dh -S115200 Anything wrong in the above? Hyperterminal is set to 115200 bps, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit, and no flow control (if that's the correct translation to English). On the serial console, I go from the screen with the FreeBSD logo, with single-user options etc. (which works fine), and then nothing, until a login tty pops up (which also works fine). The main, if not only, reason I want a serial console is to be able to use it for single user mode, DDB, and so on. All kernel messages, and all rc messages are seen only on the graphics card; the serial console receives nothing but the / boot.config: -Dh ..., the logo screen, and then the login screen, during startup and *nothing* at all during shutdown. Also, I'm able to login and use the system both via the serial console and via the graphics card/keyboard... Is this supposed to be? I'm not complaining, I just got the impression it was one or the other. Any advice on how to get the kernel/rc messages etc. to the serial console (only or as well)? Regards, Thomas OK, so to rule out any installation-related problems, I booted from a bootonly install CD (a May ~5th snapshot of 8.0-CURRENT), with boot - h -S115200. Same thing: bootloader stuff on the serial console, kernel messages on the local computer only - and very slowly, at that, I'd say about one line a second. You could very easily see the characters being written to the screen. Am I the only one having these problems? It'd suck to buy a rather expensive (probably because they're pretty rare these days, plus I had to order from abroad) null modem cable and have it be completely useless. Regards, Thomas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:44:41 Adam Vande More wrote: [450 lines including multiple signatures and twelve levels of quoting, all to say:] Specifically what am I confused on? Or are you just going to continue with the personal attacks? You've offered no technical rebuttal, simply insults. Please, take it to email - or at least learn to trim (ideally both). No, please keep it on the list. I really, really want to see what concensus you reach. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can partitions span more than one drive?
RW wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:45:47 -0400 John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: Question: is it possible to just expand my existing /backup partition to encompass both the current drive and the new drive? I'm guessing not, since Chapter 8 in Absolute FreeBSD says that a partition is part of a slice, You can join 2 partitions into 1 with gconcat. OTOH that would wipe any existing data as you would need to put a new filesystem on the combined partition. No, you can always use growfs to expand the filesystem. But of course, the usual warnings apply, read carefully the growfs manual... Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5 on FBSD
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:21:57AM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote: Hi, Well, I installed firefox 3.5 on my box at home but it wasn't working correctly. Every time I'd start it I'd get, Bad system call (core dump), or something similar. Does anyone here run firefox 3.5 on their box? If so, what is the trick? kldload sem See the 20090628 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Removing firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 from system
Add WITH_GECKO=libxul to your /etc/make.conf and run portmaster -o to replace firefox with firefox35. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq226.html#q1 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmastersektion=8apropos=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE+and+Ports On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Jerryges...@yahoo.com wrote: I recently installed openoffice.org-3.1.0_2 on my system. For some reason it brought in firefox-2 also. I all ready had Firefox-3.5 installed. I do not want or need two different installations of Firefox on my system. Firefox-2 appears to be required by these programs. /var/db/pkg $ pkg_info -R firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 Information for firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1: Required by: gegl-0.0.22_6 gimp-2.6.6,2 gimp-app-2.6.6_3,1 gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_2 gimp-help-2.4.2_1 librsvg2-2.26.0_1 I am not sure why these programs require Firefox-2 since Firefox-3.5 was installed prior to their installation. Is there any way I can safely remove Firefox-2 and force the use of Firefox-3.5 instead without breaking anything? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Harp not on that string. William Shakespeare, Henry VI ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5...
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:32:09 +0100 Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.net wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? I used: pkg_delete -dfv Firefox 3.0.11,1 It worked fine. Then build and install the new version. Depending on how you manage your ports, you might need to run something like: pkgdb -Ffuv after installing the new port. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5...
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 11:32 +0100, Peter Harrison wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? Thanks for any thoughts. Should be, or if you use portupgrade: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202568.html Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bill Moran
wmo...@potentialtech.com
wrote:
In response to Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com:
--On Tuesday, August 25, 2009 08:30:17 -0500 Colin Brace
c...@lim.nl
wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
You can add an ipfw rule to prevent the script from
calling
home,
which
will effectively render it neutered until you can
track
down
and
actually
_fix_ the problem.
Mike Bristow above wrote: The script is talking to
94.102.51.57 on
port
7000. OK, so I how do I know what port the script is
using
for
outgoing
traffic on MY box? 7000 is the remote host port, right?
FWIW, here are my core PF lines:
pass out quick on $ext_if proto 41
pass out quick on gif0 inet6
pass in quick on gif0 inet6 proto icmp6
block in log
That is to say: nothing is allowed in unless explicitly
allowed
Everything allowed out.
(plus some ipv6 stuff I was testing with a tunnel)
The problem with blocking outbound ports is that it
breaks
things
in
odd
ways.
For example, your mail server listens on port 25 (and
possibly
465 as
well) but
it communicates with connecting clients on whatever
ethereal
port
the
client
decided to use. If the port the client selects happens
to be
in
a
range
that
you are blocking, communication will be impossible and
the
client
will
report
that your mail server is non-responsive.
You're doing it wrong. Block on the destination port
_only_
and
you
don't
care about the ephemeral ports.
What ports would you block then when you're trying to run a
webserver?
My point (which is presented in examples below) is that you
block
everything
and only allow what is needed (usually only dns and ntp,
possibly
smtp
if
the web server needs to send mail)
That single statement above was directed specifically at the
comment
about
it being impossible to predict (and thus block) ephemeral
source
ports.
He's
right about that, and that's why filtering on the destination
port
is
the
more common practice.
Of course, that caused me to create an email that seems to
contradict
itself, if you don't notice that it's two answers to two
different
comments.
My point was that it's unfeasible to block by destination point.
You
can
only block by destination port if it's a known quantity, and the
destination
port is ephemeral in the question I posed(which what the OP had
an
issue
with).
Please read the entire email before you respond. My last example
below
demonstrates how to do what you call unfeasible.
It's much easier to block outgoing ports for services you
*don't*
want to
offer, but, if the service isn't running anyway, blocking
the
port is
non-productive.
You're obviously misunderstanding me completely. Your not
blocking
incoming
connections, your preventing outgoing ones, which means
there
_is_
no
service running on your local machine.
For example, a server that is _only_ web (with SSH for
admin)
could
have
a ruleset like:
pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to me port
{25,587,465,22}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto tcp from me to any port
{25}
keep
state
pass out quick on $ext_if proto upd from me to any port
{53,123}
keep
state
block all
(note that's only an example, there may be some fine points
I'm
missing)
One thing that had not yet been mentioned when I posted my
earlier
comment,
is that this system is a combination firewall/web
Re: Can partitions span more than one drive?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:45:47 -0400 John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: Question: is it possible to just expand my existing /backup partition to encompass both the current drive and the new drive? I'm guessing not, since Chapter 8 in Absolute FreeBSD says that a partition is part of a slice, You can join 2 partitions into 1 with gconcat. OTOH that would wipe any existing data as you would need to put a new filesystem on the combined partition. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what www perl script is running?
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:44:41 Adam Vande More wrote: [450 lines including multiple signatures and twelve levels of quoting, all to say:] Specifically what am I confused on? Or are you just going to continue with the personal attacks? You've offered no technical rebuttal, simply insults. Please, take it to email - or at least learn to trim (ideally both). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Removing firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 from system
Jerry ges...@yahoo.com writes: I recently installed openoffice.org-3.1.0_2 on my system. For some reason it brought in firefox-2 also. I all ready had Firefox-3.5 installed. I do not want or need two different installations of Firefox on my system. Firefox-2 appears to be required by these programs. /var/db/pkg $ pkg_info -R firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 Information for firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1: Required by: gegl-0.0.22_6 gimp-2.6.6,2 gimp-app-2.6.6_3,1 gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_2 gimp-help-2.4.2_1 librsvg2-2.26.0_1 I am not sure why these programs require Firefox-2 since Firefox-3.5 was installed prior to their installation. Is there any way I can safely remove Firefox-2 and force the use of Firefox-3.5 instead without breaking anything? It's not using the firefox2 executable, but for gecko support. You will need to rebuild each port from which you want to remove the dependency. Some time soon, the Makefile support will change to using www/libxul instead of its current system. If you want to make an equivalent change before then, you can put WITH_GECKO=libxul in your make.conf and rebuild the dependent ports. See bsd.gecko.mk for more information, or just keep an eye on it to see when the changes come into the tree. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
question about security updates
I was wondering in the case of openssl: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:08.openssl.asc Corrected: 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7, 7.2-PRERELEASE) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7_2, 7.2-RC2) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7_1, 7.1-RELEASE-p5) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7_0, 7.0-RELEASE-p12) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_6, 6.4-STABLE) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_6_4, 6.4-RELEASE-p4) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_6_3, 6.3-RELEASE-p10) CVE Name: CVE-2009-0590 I see that in release 7_2, that this was corrected. Does this mean that if I were to download the 7.2 iso, that this patch would already be applied to this release? To me, it seems that anything that isn't *-RELEASE-p? would be applied to the distributed iso, but I could be wrong. Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:51:41PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: Buy spinrite, no matter what. It's OS/FS independent. it works on the bits stored on the magnetic platters, NOT on a filesystem. TiVo, Linux, BSD and Mac OSX drives are treated the same. Bits on a magnetic platter. It's recovery stems from the randomization and movement of the head to the sector in question that allows it to salvage any bits it can (for example, other recovery will abandon 512bytes if 1 bit cannot be read. spinrite will recover 512bytes-1bit to a hard drive's spare sector once spinrite says i'm done working with this sector.) It leads to a very successful rate. (Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with spinrite.) 512bytes-1bit may be read back, but you can't be sure that those are the correct bytes! IIRC, sectors are usually protected by some kind of ECC. Simply ignoring the ECC and reading raw magnetic data will all too often result in corrupt sectors. Of course, if you have out-of-band error correction or at least error detection mechanisms (like .PAR or md5/sha1 checksums), raw magnetic recovery is better than nothing, if you're desperate. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Serial console trouble: loader and login works, but no kernel messages
On Aug 26, 2009, at 18:04, Danny Braniss wrote: you need to set hint.uart.0.flags=0x10 danny I already tried that (in /boot/loader.conf); it shows up in dmesg (and didn't before), but still no luck. Regards/thanks, Thomas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5...
2009/8/26 Wayne Sierke w...@au.dyndns.ws: On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 11:32 +0100, Peter Harrison wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? Thanks for any thoughts. Should be, or if you use portupgrade: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202568.html 2nd'd. portupgrade -o www/firefox35 firefox\* worked perfectly here. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5...
2009/8/26 Wayne Sierke w...@au.dyndns.ws: On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 11:32 +0100, Peter Harrison wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? Thanks for any thoughts. Should be, or if you use portupgrade: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202568.htm l 2nd'd. portupgrade -o www/firefox35 firefox\* worked perfectly here. yep it compiles fine on amd64 freebsd 7.2 p3. However when launched it asks for you to accept a cookie from some strange site. I denied the cookie permission and firefox35 immediately shut down. david ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Serial console trouble: loader and login works, but no kernel messages
At 12:10 PM 8/26/2009, Thomas Backman wrote: danny I already tried that (in /boot/loader.conf); it shows up in dmesg (and didn't before), but still no luck. Try adding it to /boot/device.hints eg hint.uart.0.at=isa hint.uart.0.port=0x3F8 hint.uart.0.flags=0x10 hint.uart.0.irq=4 hint.uart.1.at=isa hint.uart.1.port=0x2F8 Or, if you want to use loader.conf, try hw.uart.console=io:0x3f8 ---Mike Regards/thanks, Thomas ___ freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications,m...@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:10:38 +0200 cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:51:41PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: Buy spinrite, no matter what. It's OS/FS independent. it works on the bits stored on the magnetic platters, NOT on a filesystem. TiVo, Linux, BSD and Mac OSX drives are treated the same. Bits on a magnetic platter. It's recovery stems from the randomization and movement of the head to the sector in question that allows it to salvage any bits it can (for example, other recovery will abandon 512bytes if 1 bit cannot be read. spinrite will recover 512bytes-1bit to a hard drive's spare sector once spinrite says i'm done working with this sector.) It leads to a very successful rate. (Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with spinrite.) 512bytes-1bit may be read back, but you can't be sure that those are the correct bytes! IIRC, sectors are usually protected by some kind of ECC. Simply ignoring the ECC and reading raw magnetic data will all too often result in corrupt sectors. Of course, if you have out-of-band error correction or at least error detection mechanisms (like .PAR or md5/sha1 checksums), raw magnetic recovery is better than nothing, if you're desperate. -cpghost. I have used Spinrite several times with excellent results. In fact, I recently used it to recover a Laptop drive that had become unusable. Spinrite tries to turn off ECC if possible. It is not the cheapest product; however, it works better than anything else I have tried on bonked discs. Use it on its highest recover level and it will recover the drive; although it may take a while. http://www.grc.com/intro.htm -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Lord, defend me from my friends; I can account for my enemies. Charles D'Hericault ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Serial console trouble: loader and login works, but no kernel messages
On Aug 26, 2009, at 18:16, Mike Tancsa wrote: Or, if you want to use loader.conf, try hw.uart.console=io:0x3f8 ---Mike That solved it! Thanks a lot!! :) Regards, Thomas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: question about security updates
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:08:17AM -0700, Jason wrote: I was wondering in the case of openssl: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:08.openssl.asc Corrected: 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7, 7.2-PRERELEASE) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7_2, 7.2-RC2) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7_1, 7.1-RELEASE-p5) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_7_0, 7.0-RELEASE-p12) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_6, 6.4-STABLE) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_6_4, 6.4-RELEASE-p4) 2009-04-22 14:07:14 UTC (RELENG_6_3, 6.3-RELEASE-p10) CVE Name: CVE-2009-0590 I see that in release 7_2, that this was corrected. Does this mean that if I were to download the 7.2 iso, that this patch would already be applied to this release? It would not be in the ISO. That does not get changed after it is released. But if you do an update (CSUP) to RELENG_7_2 eg put the line *default tag=RELENG_7_2 in your supfile, then that will download the security updates. You then need to do the builds as it tells in the handbook. Make sure you read and understand the procedures in the handbook. It will all work just fine. I have done it many times. But, don't try to shortcut or make guesses about the procedures in the handbook. Then you will be off in space and it will leave something screwed up. That is why the handbook was written and one of the things that makes FreeBSD superior. jerry To me, it seems that anything that isn't *-RELEASE-p? would be applied to the distributed iso, but I could be wrong. Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:46:50PM -0600, Kelly Martin wrote: plugging the drive in and accessing it, I heard those tell-tale signs of hard drive failure: clicks and pops and other unusual noises, so I know that it has some damage. I hate those sounds, having heard them on failing drives too many times before. If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to get a good copy. My question: what kind of checks and/or repair tools should I run on the damaged drive after it's mounted? As others have mentioned, first make a copy (with the disk unmounted) of the partitions on that disk with dd, saving them to another drive. That way you can experiment with the data without further deterioration of the original. I ran dd and it took over 20 hours to complete. In fact it just finished this evening, after running all day. Lots of FAILURE errors were reported along the way, enough to fill two console screens or more. And of course to complicate things I didn't have a spare drive as an output device that was the *same size*, so I used a smaller drive thinking that it wouldn't matter since the source drive wasn't full anyway. I have no idea if data is scattered around on the FFS filesystem such that cloning a mostly empty, larger drive onto something smaller might lose data... I searched Google and couldn't find the answer, so I proceeded anyway. It doesn't matter now though, as I have a new drive now and another plan. Using dd you make a block-for block copy; dd doesn't know about filesystems. You could pipe the output from dd through a compression program like gzip or bzip2. That could yield a smaller image. But you'd have to uncompress it in order to use it. Or you could try just copying the filesystems separately. E.g. copy from ad4s1f instead of the whole ad4. That way you can split the data over several files which you can store in different places. I'm going to try dd a second time, but this time I'll use ddrescue as some people suggested and I'll make the target drive an identical-sized 500 Gbyte drive, which I purchased today. I imagine it will take a long time to create this cloned disk... hopefully with fewer errors than dd gave me, though we'll see. I hope you get a good copy, but it doesn't sound too likely. I'm not a hardware expert, but if the disk is really breaking down in the hardware or electronics, it is not inconceivable that even reading might further deteriorate it. If you do not get a good 1:1 copy, you'll have extra errors in your data! Depending on the options you give dd, it will either skip blocks with errors or fill it with zeroes or other characters. See the piece of the manual page of fsck_ufs that describes the 'noerror' conversion. Indeed some of the partitions seem to be beyond repair. In particular my /var partition is totally fubar'ed. When using fsck_ffs I got all sorts of errors when trying to repair the partition, things like: BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE So I used the -b option suggested in the man page, fsck_ffs -y -b 160 /dev/ad0s1d and it ran and fixed a few things, but then stopped with the following error: fsck_ufs: cannot alloc 4294967292 bytes for inoinfo The meaning of errors is explained in Appendix A of Fsck - The UNIX File System Check Program. You can find it this as /usr/share/doc/smm/03.fsck/paper.ascii.gz MySQL databases are normally stored in /var/db/mysql. But then I remembered my MySQL server was actually running in a Jail environment, and therefore it was located at /usr/jails/myjail/var/db/mysql instead of /var/db/mysql, and therefore the jailed MySQL database was on a totally different partition. Lucky! And I was also very lucky that I could mount the large /usr partition in read-only mode and copy off the most critical files I needed, starting with the database. No errors on that part of the disk so far, at least with the few critical files I've copied over. Whew! Congratulations! Until just a few minutes ago I didn't think there'd be a happy ending. But I've got the most critical data copied over now, the rest can wait. I'm going to go run dd a second time (well, ddrescue) now and then start work on the copy once it finishes, in a day or two. Time to start thinking about a solid backup strategy as well. :-) Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpOcLejmqquP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problem syncing Palm TX with jpilot on FreeBSD 8.0-BETA3
Hello, I am running FreeBSD 8.0-BETA3 amd64 and am having trouble syncing my Palm TX with jpilot. This used to work with 7.2-STABLE amd64 and I suspect I'm just not using the usb: connection correctly but have not been able to find a solution by searching the archives. I am running a custom kernel with device uvisor commented out, though the same problem occurs if I recompile with uvisor included. When I plug in the Palm TX I get the following at the end of dmesg output: ugen0.4: Palm, Inc. at usbus0 ugen0.4: Palm, Inc. at usbus0 (disconnected) If I tell jpilot to sync with a Palm at usb: I get the following error message: dlp_OpenConduit() failed Sync canceled Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_OPEN_CONDUIT Finished. I also have the following in my /etc/devfs.rules: add path 'ugen*' unhide mode 0660 group operator and I am a member of the operator group. What should I set to get hotsync working? Thanks all in anticipation, Tony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can partitions span more than one drive?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:45:47AM -0400, John Almberg wrote: Question: is it possible to just expand my existing /backup partition to encompass both the current drive and the new drive? I'm guessing not, since Chapter 8 in Absolute FreeBSD says that a partition is part of a slice, which is part of a physical drive, but maybe some bright person has come up with an app that overcomes that limitation. You could use gconcat, but you'd have to partition, label and newfs this new combined device which would render your current data unreadable. And on a concatenated disk the risk of failure is increased. If one of the two drives dies, you'll lose all data. If you want to combine disks, use some form of RAID to protect yourself from a dying disk. :-) Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgppeqDozSi8w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem syncing Palm TX with jpilot on FreeBSD 8.0-BETA3
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 06:54:25PM +0100, Tony McC wrote: Hello, I am running FreeBSD 8.0-BETA3 amd64 and am having trouble syncing my Palm TX with jpilot. This used to work with 7.2-STABLE amd64 and I suspect I'm just not using the usb: connection correctly but have not been able to find a solution by searching the archives. I am running a custom kernel with device uvisor commented out, though the same problem occurs if I recompile with uvisor included. When I plug in the Palm TX I get the following at the end of dmesg output: ugen0.4: Palm, Inc. at usbus0 ugen0.4: Palm, Inc. at usbus0 (disconnected) If I tell jpilot to sync with a Palm at usb: I get the following error message: dlp_OpenConduit() failed Sync canceled Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_OPEN_CONDUIT Finished. I also have the following in my /etc/devfs.rules: add path 'ugen*' unhide mode 0660 group operator and I am a member of the operator group. What should I set to get hotsync working? I think you have to add the following add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator It seems that the new libusb in 8.x doesn't use the ugen devices anymore, it uses the new /dev/usb/* devices. Adding the above fixed gphoto2 for me on 8-BETA2. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp2jmRHxCqqj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Firefox 3.5...
Wednesday, 26 August 2009 at 23:54:12 +0930, Wayne Sierke said: On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 11:32 +0100, Peter Harrison wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? Thanks for any thoughts. Should be, or if you use portupgrade: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202568.html OK thanks, I'll check that out. Peter. Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5...
Wednesday, 26 August 2009 at 11:55:38 -0400, ill...@gmail.com said: 2009/8/26 Wayne Sierke w...@au.dyndns.ws: On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 11:32 +0100, Peter Harrison wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? Thanks for any thoughts. Should be, or if you use portupgrade: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202568.html 2nd'd. portupgrade -o www/firefox35 firefox\* worked perfectly here. Thanks for confirming. Peter . -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5...
Wednesday, 26 August 2009 at 10:37:48 -0400, Jerry said: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:32:09 +0100 Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.net wrote: I've Firefox 3.0.11,1 on my 7.2-release system at the moment. Anyone offer some advice on moving up to 3.5? Is it as simple as pkg_delete'ing 3.0 and then installing 3.5? I used: pkg_delete -dfv Firefox 3.0.11,1 It worked fine. Then build and install the new version. Depending on how you manage your ports, you might need to run something like: pkgdb -Ffuv after installing the new port. Thanks Jerry. I tend to build ports on one machine and then install packages on another so I'll be doing it with packages, but thanks for the info. Peter. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:07:41PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:46:50PM -0600, Kelly Martin wrote: plugging the drive in and accessing it, I heard those tell-tale signs of hard drive failure: clicks and pops and other unusual noises, so I know that it has some damage. I hate those sounds, having heard them on failing drives too many times before. If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to get a good copy. Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back years. To the exent it does work, it might give Kelly enough time to attempt recovery. If more time is required, he can try and find a creative workaround for the 5 meter max length for USB cables. Also, experimenting with dry ice or acetone baths might prove to be interesting, or at least educational. ;-) -- George ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: snip If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to get a good copy. Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back years. Interesting. To the exent it does work, it might give Kelly enough time to attempt recovery. If more time is required, he can try and find a creative workaround for the 5 meter max length for USB cables. Also, experimenting with dry ice or acetone baths might prove to be interesting, or at least educational. ;-) Acetone and electronics are _not_ a good mix! Acetone is extremely flammable. It evaporates easily and can form explosive mixtures in air over a wide range of concentrations. Not to mention that it would degrade/destroy printed circuit boards; acetone breaks down the resin that binds the glass fibers in the laminates! Not as fast as n-Methyl-2-pyrrolidone, bus fast enough. I remember this special non-condictive 3M fluid that can be used to cool electronics. A group of hackers dunked a complete PC minus the case and power supply in this stuff. The fluid itself was cooled with liquid nitrogen. They everclocked it something wicked. Not very practical though. :-) Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpXZwydo45KR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:23:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: snip If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to get a good copy. Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back years. Interesting. To the exent it does work, it might give Kelly enough time to attempt recovery. If more time is required, he can try and find a creative workaround for the 5 meter max length for USB cables. Also, experimenting with dry ice or acetone baths might prove to be interesting, or at least educational. ;-) I remember this special non-condictive 3M fluid that can be used to cool electronics. A group of hackers dunked a complete PC minus the case and power supply in this stuff. The fluid itself was cooled with liquid nitrogen. They everclocked it something wicked. Not very practical though. :-) A number of supercomputers from Cray and Control Data and maybe some other places used this sort of thing on some experimental systems. I don't know if any ever were put in to commercial production. They submerged who boards in to it and then supercooled the fluid. I don't remember the chemical names. The fluid was a relative of Freon and held sufficient levels of oxygen to support lung breathers. They used to have a tank with a live mouse submerged in it bouncing around and seeming to have no trouble not choking or drowning. A variation of it was also researched as a blood substitute for some special medical needs. I don't know how far that went.I know it is not all fantasy because I saw the live mouse. I didn't try the blood substitute. jerry Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:13:48 -0700, George Davidovich free...@optimis.net wrote: Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back years. I heared a similar suggestion from a guy who tried to get the protection code out of a car radio. :-) To the exent it does work, it might give Kelly enough time to attempt recovery. If more time is required, he can try and find a creative workaround for the 5 meter max length for USB cables. 5 meters? I always thought USB is specified for 2 meters only. I've never seen a 5 meters long USB cable, by the way. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:45:40PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:23:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: I remember this special non-condictive 3M fluid that can be used to cool electronics. A group of hackers dunked a complete PC minus the case and power supply in this stuff. The fluid itself was cooled with liquid nitrogen. They everclocked it something wicked. Not very practical though. :-) A number of supercomputers from Cray and Control Data and maybe some other places used this sort of thing on some experimental systems. I don't know if any ever were put in to commercial production. They submerged who boards in to it and then supercooled the fluid. I don't remember the chemical names. I do, but have no idea why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorohexane The fluid was a relative of Freon and held sufficient levels of oxygen to support lung breathers. They used to have a tank with a live mouse submerged in it bouncing around and seeming to have no trouble not choking or drowning. A variation of it was also researched as a blood substitute for some special medical needs. I don't know how far that went.I know it is not all fantasy because I saw the live mouse. I believe you. I saw a similar scene in a movie, so I already knew it had to be true. Bonus points for anyone that can add to this thread's collection of off-topic but semi-interesting trivia and name the movie. I didn't try the blood substitute. How do you save a drowning mouse? Use mouse to mouse resuscitation. Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal instead. -- George ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Aug 26, 2009, at 14:14:51, George Davidovich wrote: I believe you. I saw a similar scene in a movie, so I already knew it had to be true. Bonus points for anyone that can add to this thread's collection of off-topic but semi-interesting trivia and name the movie. What is The Abyss for 1000, Alex? :) Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: hard disk failure - now what?
I had a laptop years ago that started to die, but seemed to work OK when first removed from a cold car. After an hour or so it would die. I eventually put it in the freezer long enough to get what I needed off the drive, so in some cases I would agree that cold is good! -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:13 PM To: George Davidovich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard disk failure - now what? On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:13:48 -0700, George Davidovich free...@optimis.net wrote: Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back years. I heared a similar suggestion from a guy who tried to get the protection code out of a car radio. :-) To the exent it does work, it might give Kelly enough time to attempt recovery. If more time is required, he can try and find a creative workaround for the 5 meter max length for USB cables. 5 meters? I always thought USB is specified for 2 meters only. I've never seen a 5 meters long USB cable, by the way. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:14:51PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: A number of supercomputers from Cray and Control Data and maybe some other places used this sort of thing on some experimental systems. I don't know if any ever were put in to commercial production. They submerged who boards in to it and then supercooled the fluid. I don't remember the chemical names. I do, but have no idea why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorohexane The fluid was a relative of Freon and held sufficient levels of oxygen to support lung breathers. They used to have a tank with a live mouse submerged in it bouncing around and seeming to have no trouble not choking or drowning. A variation of it was also researched as a blood substitute for some special medical needs. I don't know how far that went.I know it is not all fantasy because I saw the live mouse. I believe you. I saw a similar scene in a movie, so I already knew it had to be true. Bonus points for anyone that can add to this thread's collection of off-topic but semi-interesting trivia and name the movie. I vaguely remember a movie with it in, but I saw it in person at Cray headquarters back when. I didn't try the blood substitute. How do you save a drowning mouse? Use mouse to mouse resuscitation. Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal instead. Only with the asparagus. jerry -- George ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:30:59 -0500, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: I had a laptop years ago that started to die, but seemed to work OK when first removed from a cold car. After an hour or so it would die. I eventually put it in the freezer long enough to get what I needed off the drive, so in some cases I would agree that cold is good! That really sounds like a thermal problem (defective cooling)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: hard disk failure - now what?
Naw, I don't recall the POST error exactly, but from what I remember it couldn't find a boot device. Could've been the controller, but from what I recall I swapped the drive (later) and all was good. I really don't recall though - I could've put the bad drive in a good laptop and fixed it that way - really don't recall details. Wish I could fix some other problems by throwing them in a freezer! -Original Message- From: Polytropon [mailto:free...@edvax.de] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:54 PM To: Gary Gatten Cc: George Davidovich; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard disk failure - now what? On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:30:59 -0500, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: I had a laptop years ago that started to die, but seemed to work OK when first removed from a cold car. After an hour or so it would die. I eventually put it in the freezer long enough to get what I needed off the drive, so in some cases I would agree that cold is good! That really sounds like a thermal problem (defective cooling)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:07:41 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to get a good copy. There's an additional problem: Let's assume dd creates an 1:1 copy of the file system in its actual state - nobody guarantees that this file system is fully intact, or can be repaired. I have (!) the problem myself that I got the dd copy from the partition holding my home directory just fine, but the file system itself is damaged in such a state that fsck_ffs cannot repair it. At least, I could get data off it - EXCEPT my home directory, sadly. But that's not a (physical) disk problem, but a file system related one. Using dd you make a block-for block copy; dd doesn't know about filesystems. You could pipe the output from dd through a compression program like gzip or bzip2. That could yield a smaller image. But you'd have to uncompress it in order to use it. I'm often told that hard disks are cheap today, and it's much more relaxing operating on a plain image than on a compressed one. Or you could try just copying the filesystems separately. E.g. copy from ad4s1f instead of the whole ad4. That way you can split the data over several files which you can store in different places. That is the encouraged method. In case you have separated file systems, it's a quite optimum case. For example, you don't need to mess around with a 20 GB /tmp partition if you intendedly want to lose its data. I hope you get a good copy, but it doesn't sound too likely. I'm not a hardware expert, but if the disk is really breaking down in the hardware or electronics, it is not inconceivable that even reading might further deteriorate it. In case of such hardware defects that causes growing problems, it's wise to get the data (1st) as fast as possible and (2nd) as accurate as possible - before the disk completely dies. In such a case, it's still possible to recover data, e. g. to mount the disks (the cylinders or platters) into another drive unit. But if the disks are defective theirselves... If you do not get a good 1:1 copy, you'll have extra errors in your data! Depending on the options you give dd, it will either skip blocks with errors or fill it with zeroes or other characters. See the piece of the manual page of fsck_ufs that describes the 'noerror' conversion. As far as I remember, dd_rescue or ddrescue can handle such problems. In case of errors, they retry and keep reading. fsck_ufs: cannot alloc 4294967292 bytes for inoinfo The meaning of errors is explained in Appendix A of Fsck - The UNIX File System Check Program. You can find it this as /usr/share/doc/smm/03.fsck/paper.ascii.gz When I tried to repair my defective partition in another system with less RAM, I got a similar error: cannot alloc 1073796864 bytes for inoinfo The real (usual) error is fsck_4.2bsd: bad inode number 306176 to nextinode It seems that more RAM is needed to store information. Time to start thinking about a solid backup strategy as well. :-) The correct time to do so is BEFORE you start storing data. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
Gary Gatten wrote: I had a laptop years ago that started to die, but seemed to work OK when first removed from a cold car. After an hour or so it would die. I eventually put it in the freezer long enough to get what I needed off the drive, so in some cases I would agree that cold is good! -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:13 PM To: George Davidovich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard disk failure - now what? On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:13:48 -0700, George Davidovich free...@optimis.net wrote: Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back years. I heared a similar suggestion from a guy who tried to get the protection code out of a car radio. :-) To the exent it does work, it might give Kelly enough time to attempt recovery. If more time is required, he can try and find a creative workaround for the 5 meter max length for USB cables. 5 meters? I always thought USB is specified for 2 meters only. I've never seen a 5 meters long USB cable, by the way. Aloha, Off Topic but very funny as well as interesting. I have a usb cable that I bought it on line and have used it for a small video camera that is 15 meters long and it works OK. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Information on Setting up a Jailed Webserver
Hello, I have a small site which runs PostgreSQL, Nginx, and PHP. I'm looking into running nginx inside a jailed host on my server for security reasons (eg, if there is a hole in a php script). The website root is actually a working copy of my subversion repository. I have svnserve running through OpenVPN. My plan would be to have svnserve and OpenVPN running on the main system, and nginx/php running inside a jail. I was wondering if it would be somehow possible to run a command on the main system that updates the svn working copy inside the jail for nginx to serve. Would I need to do the svn up over tcp/ip from the jail to the main system? Or can I somehow update it via file://path/to/main/repo? I've never used or setup a jail before, so how everything works is a bit confusing to me. Right now, I use an svn post-commit hook to update the www working copy. Also, how memory-intensive is a jail? I'm willing to run postgresql in another jail as well if it wouldn't be too memory-intensive. And possibly even an IRC server. I'm running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3. Thank you for the suggestions, advise, and criticisms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Information on Setting up a Jailed Webserver
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:59 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I have a small site which runs PostgreSQL, Nginx, and PHP. I'm looking into running nginx inside a jailed host on my server for security reasons (eg, if there is a hole in a php script). The website root is actually a working copy of my subversion repository. I have svnserve running through OpenVPN. My plan would be to have svnserve and OpenVPN running on the main system, and nginx/php running inside a jail. I was wondering if it would be somehow possible to run a command on the main system that updates the svn working copy inside the jail for nginx to serve. Would I need to do the svn up over tcp/ip from the jail to the main system? Or can I somehow update it via file://path/to/main/repo? The second method, it's quite easy. I've never used or setup a jail before, so how everything works is a bit confusing to me. Right now, I use an svn post-commit hook to update the www working copy. Also, how memory-intensive is a jail? Very light when compared to other virtualization methods. Usually, most setups won't run things that require a lot disk io in virtual systems, but jails are an exception. Practically native speed, it's easier to understand jails by thinking of them as an enhanced chroot enviro rather than a virtualization instance. I'm willing to run postgresql in another jail as well if it wouldn't be too memory-intensive. And possibly even an IRC server. If you're going to run multiple jails, look at /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail I'm running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3. Keep in mind jail needs to run same kernel as host. If you upgrade base system, do so with every jail as well. Thank you for the suggestions, advise, and criticisms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Information on Setting up a Jailed Webserver
Hi, On 27 August 2009 am 11:10:37 Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:59 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.comwrote: Also, how memory-intensive is a jail? Very light when compared to other virtualization methods. jails share the kernel but not the world. So, there will be only one kernel loaded but all libraries in use will be loaded individually by each jail when needed. Jails need some more disk space as the world, all libraries needed and all applications needed are installed individually in each jail. This can be minimised with proper planning of what runs it what jail. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Information on Setting up a Jailed Webserver
may be it will better to imagine that jail is a different computer, so if your jail need connection to main host it will connect like other computer that not running in jail. you can do file:// from main host to jail but not from jail to main host. As far I know jail is a method so memory intensive is depend on your application. regards Thomas APseudoUtopia wrote: ... [cut] I was wondering if it would be somehow possible to run a command on the main system that updates the svn working copy inside the jail for nginx to serve. Would I need to do the svn up over tcp/ip from the jail to the main system? Or can I somehow update it via file://path/to/main/repo? I've never used or setup a jail before, so how everything works is a bit confusing to me. Right now, I use an svn post-commit hook to update the www working copy. Also, how memory-intensive is a jail? I'm willing to run postgresql in another jail as well if it wouldn't be too memory-intensive. And possibly even an IRC server. I'm running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3. Thank you for the suggestions, advise, and criticisms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:03:58AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:07:41 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to get a good copy. There's an additional problem: Let's assume dd creates an 1:1 copy of the file system in its actual state - nobody guarantees that this file system is fully intact, or can be repaired. Certainly. If filesystem data is missing, there is only so much that fsck_ufs can do about it. Using dd you make a block-for block copy; dd doesn't know about filesystems. You could pipe the output from dd through a compression program like gzip or bzip2. That could yield a smaller image. But you'd have to uncompress it in order to use it. I'm often told that hard disks are cheap today, and it's much more relaxing operating on a plain image than on a compressed one. Of course. But if you are operating under restricted scape constraints... I hope you get a good copy, but it doesn't sound too likely. I'm not a hardware expert, but if the disk is really breaking down in the hardware or electronics, it is not inconceivable that even reading might further deteriorate it. In case of such hardware defects that causes growing problems, it's wise to get the data (1st) as fast as possible and (2nd) as accurate as possible - before the disk completely dies. And (3rd) in as few tries as possible! In such a case, it's still possible to recover data, e. g. to mount the disks (the cylinders or platters) into another drive unit. But if the disks are defective theirselves... I wonder if that is still possible with current drives? My impression was (from a paper that I can't locate ATM) that data densities are so high that it is extremely difficult to read the data with different arm/head assembly then the one it was written with. Time to start thinking about a solid backup strategy as well. :-) The correct time to do so is BEFORE you start storing data. :-) Very true! But since the lack of backups was what got the OP in this mess in the first place... Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpuFA9QD2zWP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Can anyone reproduce this Samba problem?
I have been trying to set up a 'dropbox' Samba share on FreeBSD, but am not having luck. I went back and forth on the Samba ML for a bit, and now I'm trying to determine if I am seeing FreeBSD-specific bad behavior. Could anyone out there see if they can reproduce my issue on FreeBSD? I have a simple reproduction case (repeatable for me, at least), and I'm curious if people see the same behavior on: - Samba 3.2 (broken for me) - Samba 3.3 (broken for me) - Samba 3.4 (It's not in ports, I haven't installed it manually yet, but someone with Ubuntu has confirmed it works for them with this version) Here is tail of the old thread with gory details, if anyone's interested: http://www.mail-archive.com/sa...@lists.samba.org/msg102359.html So here is what I am trying to do, and how to reproduce my issue: I want a dropbox share, with the sticky bit set, and with the file owner to be inherited from the share directory, for new files/dirs. Note: I do not want to use SUIDDIR if possible. I realize it is an option, but am trying to avoid it for now. So I have a directory like this: drwxrwxr-t 20 nobody myuser 512 Aug 19 20:07 myshare And it is shared in smb.conf like this: [myshare] comment = my share path = /path/to/myshare read only = no inherit permissions = yes inherit owner = yes Now I want to create a directory in this share (from a Windows machine, or smbclient). What I would *expect* is this: drwxrwxr-t 2 nobody myuser 512 Aug 19 14:07 some_new_dir Notice that the sticky bit is set, and the user is set to 'nobody' which will ensure that no users, including the original creator, can alter this directory once created. And in fact, this is what happens when Jeremy Allison tried it on Ubuntu 8.10 with Samba 3.4 (see thread mentioned earlier). HOWEVER, on both my FreeBSD boxes with either Samba 3.2 or 3.3, I instead get this: drwxrwxr-t 2 myuser myuser512 Aug 19 14:07 some_new_dir Notice the owner is 'myuser' instead of 'nobody'. Thus, the user 'myuser' can now rename the directory (for instance), which is not acceptable. It seems as though 'inherit owner' is just being ignored. I don't know why. Interestingly, if I turn off 'inherit permissions', then 'inherit owner' DOES take effect correctly. However, that means the sticky bit does not get inherited, which will not work for me. I need both to be inherited, and for some reason they are behaving mutually-exclusive (with 'inherit permissions' taking precedence). I have tried this on Samba3.3 and 3.2, both on FreeBSD-7.2_RELEASE (amd64) machines, and neither works. So to sum up: I'd very much appreciate it if some FreeBSD people could try reproducing this with any/all of Samba 3.2,3.3,3.4. I'd also be curious of the results with Samba3.2 or 3.3 on a non-FreeBSD Unix. I'm just trying to determine if I'm crazy or not (: Thanks -John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
