Re: Every 12-hrs -- ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE DMA

2009-10-04 Thread Oliver Fromme
This is a reply to a very old thread.

I decided to reply because

 1. nobody has mentioned the real cause of the problem yet
(some answers were misleading or even outright wrong),

 2. I've experienced the same problem in the past few weeks,

 3. my findings might be useful for other people who are
googling for the symptoms (like me) and stumble across
this thread.

The drive in question seems to be very popular, especially
in low-end private servers and home machines.  It is very
reliable; I still have these and similar ones in production.
The drive of mine that exhibited the problem recently is
this:

ad0: 24405MB IBM DJNA-352500 J51OA30K at ata0-master UDMA66

It is powering a small server running DNS, SMTP, WWW and
other things for several private domains.  The load is very
low, most of the time.

Now for the actual problem:

V.I.Victor idmc_v...@intgdev.com wrote:
  For the last 4-days, our (otherwise OK) 5.4-RELEASE machine has been
  reporting:
  
  Feb 12 12:08:05 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2701279
  Feb 13 00:08:51 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2701279
  Feb 13 12:09:38 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2963331
  Feb 14 00:10:24 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2705947
  Feb 14 12:11:09 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2706335
  Feb 15 00:12:02 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2832383
  Feb 15 12:12:57 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=139839
  Feb 16 00:13:50 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=131391
  Feb 16 12:14:36 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=131391
  
  The system was created Jan 08 and, prior to the above, the ad0: timeout had
  only been reported twice:
  
  Jan 25 11:43:34 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=17920255
  Feb 6 11:59:42 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) 
  LBA=2832383
  [...]
  ad0: 14664MB IBM-DJNA-351520/J56OA30K [29795/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66

First of all:  The disk is *not* dying.  SMART won't reveal anything.
The behaviour is perfectly normal for IBM-DJNA-3* type disks.

When those disks are used in continuous operation (24/7), they
will go into automatic maintenance mode after 6 days.  This is
kind of a short self-test and recalibration to ensure reliable
continous operation.  It will be repeated after another 6 days
ad infinitum.

Note that there are exactly 12 days between your Jan 25 and Feb 6
incidents, and exactly 6 days between Feb 6 and Feb 12 incidents.
An automatic maintenance on Jan 31 apparently finished successfully
without a timeout message.

Normally the drive will wait until it detects an idle period,
then perform the maintenance, then continue normal operation.
Maintenance mode involves a short spin down / spin up cycle.

However, if the drive receives a command during spin down, it
will abort maintenance mode, spin up (which takes a few seconds
and might cause a timeout to the operating system), then
perform the command, and RETRY MAINTENACE AFTER 12 HOURS.

So that's where your timeout messages every 12 hours come from.
This is not in any way harmful.  Eventually the maintenance
will succeed (i.e. the idle period is long enough to finish),
then you won't get timeout messages anymore for at least 6 days.

You mentioned that the problem appeared (and disappeared) when
you set the machine's clock.  This is easy to explain, too.
The hard disk has its own clock which is not synchronized with
the system clock.  It starts counting from zero when the disk
is powered up.  By changing the system's clock, you shift the
offset between it and the drive's clock.

That means that periodic activity will happen at different times,
relative to the drive's clock.  Such periodic activity includes
cron jobs and other things.  For example, sendmail's queue runner
wakes up every 30 minutes by default.  Many other daemons also
perform periodic activity.  All of that can happen to start in
the middle of the idle period that the drive chose to use for its
maintenance, thus interrupting maintenance, as described above.

If the offset between the system's clock and the drive's clock
changes, chances are that such periodic activity will happen at
different times, from the point of view of the drive, so the
likelihood that the drive can complete its maintenance changes
(better or worse).

Unfortunately there is no way to configure or disable that
maintenance mode.  The only way to somewhat control it is to
periodically enforce a spin-down (standby ATA command) when
you know that the drive is idle.  This usually requires to
unmount the filesystems, though, because otherwise you can't
guarantee that they will be idle for long enough.

You can read IBM's official documentation here:


Re: Every 12-hrs -- ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE DMA

2009-10-04 Thread V.I.Victor

[...]
First of all:  The disk is *not* dying.  SMART won't reveal anything.
The behaviour is perfectly normal for IBM-DJNA-3* type disks.

When those disks are used in continuous operation (24/7), they
will go into automatic maintenance mode after 6 days.  This is
kind of a short self-test and recalibration to ensure reliable
continous operation.  It will be repeated after another 6 days
ad infinitum.


It's been over 3.5 years since my original post -- imagine my surprise!

The drive's still running (24/7) and still reporting the same retries. Because 
of the pattern of the retries, I never really thought that the drive was bad.  
But, until now, I never knew why it was happening.

Thanks *very* much for the info!



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Re: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump

2009-10-04 Thread Aflatoon Aflatooni
  On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:38 -, aaflatooni wrote:
  
   Aflatoon Aflatooni writes:
  
   I am getting a lot of core dumps and Apache20 freezing.
   I have installed the porting using the following make:
  
   make WITHOUT_MODULES=ssl status speling imap auth_dbm auth_digest dav 
  dav_fs
   cern_meta cgi include install
  
   any suggestions as to how I might find out what is causing the problem 
   and 
 
  the
   core dumps.
  
   The first thing I'd try is re-including the excluded modules.
   If you no longer get the crashes, you can start narrowing in on which
   one is involved.  If you still get the crashes, you'll have to start
   looking at the core files.
  
   I'm assuming you're not used to using a debugger on a core file,
   on the theory that you would have done that already if you were
   comfortable with it.
  
  
   I originally had them included and I was getting the core dumps, but I 
 removed 
  them because I don't need them and I am still getting the core dumps.
  
   This is a production box and it would be hard to have debugger turned on.
   I don't know if it would be helpful, but PHP is also really slow on this 
  machine. I know that PHP would cause a dump in the php.core file and not 
  apache.core.
  
   How do I inspect the core file to find out which module caused it?
  
   Thanks
  
  
  
  Have you any special php5 modules loaded. I had a problem with I want to 
 recall 
  three or more extensions that would cause apache2X to dump core or halt in 
 doing 
  
  any further actions upon request.
  
  If the above is the case you can disable some or all of your 
  php5-extensions 
 in 
  local/etc/php/extensions.ini to test it out.
  
  Best of luck.
 
 
 Thanks,
 I followed your suggestion and removed all but the necessary modules from the 
 extensions.ini. I will have to wait and see if it helps the core dumps.
 
 So at this time I have the following in the extensions:
 extension=gd.so
 extension=mcrypt.so
 extension=mysql.so
 extension=simplexml.so
 extension=spl.so
 extension=mysqli.so
 extension=session.so
 extension=tokenizer.so
 extension=xml.so
 
 PHP is still slow though!
 

 
Just an update:
I still get the httpd.core dumps and PHP5 is visibly slower. Nothing has helped 
the situation.


  
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Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm?

2009-10-04 Thread herbert langhans
Daemons,
a little question.

I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to carry all 
the kernel sources around there.

Is it ok just to #rm the content of the /usr/src directory? And will I get it 
completely back from sysinstall or the FreeBSD-servers? Or is there a more 
elegant solution on FreeBSD?

Thanks!
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Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm?

2009-10-04 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun 2009-10-04 15:15:05 UTC+0200, herbert langhans (herbert.raim...@gmx.net) 
wrote:

 I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to
 carry all the kernel sources around there.

 Is it ok just to #rm the content of the /usr/src directory? And will I
 get it completely back from sysinstall or the FreeBSD-servers? Or is
 there a more elegant solution on FreeBSD?

This should be fine.

Since you've built a custom kernel you may want to keep a copy of
your kernel build config (LINT) file, eg. /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOSTNAME.

Note that you can't use freebsd-update to patch a custom (non-GENERIC)
kernel.

You can restore the kernel source code by extracting the ssys.??
binaries (normally found in the /src/ directory, eg.
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.2-RELEASE/src/ )
using install.sh (found in the same directory).  Probably also with
sysinstall, but I don't recall the steps to do that.

Regards
Andrew
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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread Rodolfo Pellegrino
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey guys,

 Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ ..

 We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D

 http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060


I voted and added a coment:
* Maybe it requires licensing fees, like Java, but most of us use it like a
player (Youtube) or games (Kongregate), among other. I don't want to switch
to other operating system in order to view the Flash content.*

Good luck! (Boa Sorte!)
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complements to the chief

2009-10-04 Thread wbryan01
I am a system 5 and linux person ( sorry ) for a long time (1987)
But I chose to look at your site this morning.
I am VERY VERY impressed by the fact that you folks have
created a comprehensive list of hardware supported
in your distribution.  Way to GO

I do not believe that I will ever see such a list in 
the Linux world. Too bad for me.

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Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm?

2009-10-04 Thread herbert langhans
Thank you, Andrew,
clicketyclick - all source code gone now, and the config file is saved.

Can you please tell me about the issue with freebsd-update. Does it mean if I 
run:
#freebsd-update fetch
#freebsd-update install
- it will overwrite my self compiled kernel? Good to know indeed! 

Cheers
herb langhans


On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 12:37:37AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote:
 On Sun 2009-10-04 15:15:05 UTC+0200, herbert langhans 
 (herbert.raim...@gmx.net) wrote:
 
  I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to
  carry all the kernel sources around there.
 
  Is it ok just to #rm the content of the /usr/src directory? And will I
  get it completely back from sysinstall or the FreeBSD-servers? Or is
  there a more elegant solution on FreeBSD?
 
 This should be fine.
 
 Since you've built a custom kernel you may want to keep a copy of
 your kernel build config (LINT) file, eg. /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOSTNAME.
 
 Note that you can't use freebsd-update to patch a custom (non-GENERIC)
 kernel.
 
 You can restore the kernel source code by extracting the ssys.??
 binaries (normally found in the /src/ directory, eg.
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.2-RELEASE/src/ )
 using install.sh (found in the same directory).  Probably also with
 sysinstall, but I don't recall the steps to do that.
 
 Regards
 Andrew
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Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm?

2009-10-04 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun 2009-10-04 16:29:08 UTC+0200, herbert langhans (herbert.raim...@gmx.net) 
wrote:

 Can you please tell me about the issue with freebsd-update. Does it mean if I 
 run:
 #freebsd-update fetch
 #freebsd-update install
 - it will overwrite my self compiled kernel? Good to know indeed! 

No, I suspect freebsd-update will simply refuse to patch it.
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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread herbert langhans
Yep, I am in.

I signed here:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060

and also there:
http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html

Its the last thing I need to have a full native FreeBSD environment. 
Maybe you should dig out this thread after some weeks again, Leandro. I guess 
we can gather some more signatures from recent subscribers.

Cheers
herb langhans


On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:25:53PM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ ..
 
 We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D
 
 http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060
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Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm?

2009-10-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 03:15:05PM +0200, herbert langhans wrote:
 I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to carry
 all the kernel sources around there.

Keep in mind that some ports (those that contain kernel modules) require the
kernel sources.

On my 7.2-RELEASE-p4 machine, /usr/src uses 495 MiB according to du(1). A
bzip2 compressed tar archive of /usr/src weighs in at 83 MiB.

If you are suffering from space constraints, consider doing a trimmed-down
buildworld (on an external disk or on another machine) as well. Using
src.conf(5) you can exclude a lot of stuff from the base system if you don't
need it.

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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread James Phillips



 
 Message: 29
 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:45:18 -0600
 From: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
 Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: 20091004054518.gd37...@guilt.hydra
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0700, James Phillips
 wrote:
  
  I have this fantasy that if I design and build a
 better streaming video
  format, They (broadcasters) will use it, if properly
 marketed.
 
 It may be a fantasy, but as fantasies go, it's not a bad
 one.
 
 
  
  This would be despite the lack of strong DRM or
 license terms (GPL v3
  is OK, right?).
 
 No, it isn't okay, really.

That's ok: I've thought of an out for the licensing issue:
I can write up an RFC. That way the BSD people can boast about their reference 
implementation, while the GNU zealots can be assured that their pure 
implementation won't be leveraged against them.

 
   4. Publishers are authenticated with a
 Public-key infrastructure
 
 That caught my attention.  I don't think we
 necessarily need a mainstream
 style implementation of PKI, though.  I'd say either
 go with simple
 public key digital signatures in the style of OpenPGP or
 take cues from
 the Perspectives plugin for Firefox and do distributed web
 of trust
 style verification.  Certifying Authorities are
 basically just a social
 engineering trick; now, instead of trusting one party, you
 have to trust
 two.

I think I fell into the trap of using buzzwords. I *know* Certifying 
Authorities are an interm scam needed until the general population understands 
how public keys work.

I think PGP style (but binary) signatures on every ~32kB packet solves the 
problem of authentication in the event of of missing packets.

I was envisioning that the CNN's and BBC's of the world would have a series of 
public keys (one for each bureau), while Joe down the street would have 1 or 2 
(one public, one for darknets). 



  
  2. For interoperability, I need to stabilize key
 points of the spec
  before publication. Currently struggling with date
 stamps (taking into
  account leap seconds) (mostly resolved), and a
 transform to allow the
  publisher to be authenticated even if some data is
 missing.
 
 There are copyfree licensed implementations of date
 management that take
 leap seconds into account out there already.  Is there
 some reason you
 can't borrow liberally from them?

Probably because I don't know about them :)

Actually, I was planning to borrow from Unix Time, increasing the resolution, 
and making the number signed (for old recordings).

But, Unix time doesn't do leap seconds, so they have to be added back in.

Just recently, (reading cal(1)) I realized another problem: not everyone uses 
the Gregorian Calendar. Now I have to decide how to take that into account 
sufficiently.

  4. A dual-license may quickly result in a fork that
 implements
  features I really don't want to see. (Read: anything
 deliberately
  incompatible.)
 
 That's just another reason to go with a copyfree license
 instead of the
 GPL.
 

A copyfree license wouldn't have a stick preventing the implementation of an 
effective technological measure as described in Article 11 the 1996 WIPO 
treaty (GPL v3 does).

If the (hypothetical) RFC explicitly says that copy-protection won't work (in 
the security considerations section), MAYBE a judge will decide any 
incompatible implementation is also ineffective at copy protection. 


Regards,

James Phillips





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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread jhell




On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:33 -0700, anti_spam256@ wrote:







Message: 29
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:45:18 -0600
From: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: 20091004054518.gd37...@guilt.hydra
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0700, James Phillips
wrote:


I have this fantasy that if I design and build a

better streaming video

format, They (broadcasters) will use it, if properly

marketed.

It may be a fantasy, but as fantasies go, it's not a bad
one.




This would be despite the lack of strong DRM or

license terms (GPL v3

is OK, right?).


No, it isn't okay, really.


That's ok: I've thought of an out for the licensing issue:
I can write up an RFC. That way the BSD people can boast about their reference 
implementation, while the GNU zealots can be assured that their pure 
implementation won't be leveraged against them.




  4. Publishers are authenticated with a

Public-key infrastructure

That caught my attention.  I don't think we
necessarily need a mainstream
style implementation of PKI, though.  I'd say either
go with simple
public key digital signatures in the style of OpenPGP or
take cues from
the Perspectives plugin for Firefox and do distributed web
of trust
style verification.  Certifying Authorities are
basically just a social
engineering trick; now, instead of trusting one party, you
have to trust
two.


I think I fell into the trap of using buzzwords. I *know* Certifying 
Authorities are an interm scam needed until the general population understands 
how public keys work.

I think PGP style (but binary) signatures on every ~32kB packet solves the 
problem of authentication in the event of of missing packets.

I was envisioning that the CNN's and BBC's of the world would have a series of 
public keys (one for each bureau), while Joe down the street would have 1 or 2 
(one public, one for darknets).





2. For interoperability, I need to stabilize key

points of the spec

before publication. Currently struggling with date

stamps (taking into

account leap seconds) (mostly resolved), and a

transform to allow the

publisher to be authenticated even if some data is

missing.

There are copyfree licensed implementations of date
management that take
leap seconds into account out there already.  Is there
some reason you
can't borrow liberally from them?


Probably because I don't know about them :)

Actually, I was planning to borrow from Unix Time, increasing the resolution, 
and making the number signed (for old recordings).

But, Unix time doesn't do leap seconds, so they have to be added back in.

Just recently, (reading cal(1)) I realized another problem: not everyone uses 
the Gregorian Calendar. Now I have to decide how to take that into account 
sufficiently.


4. A dual-license may quickly result in a fork that

implements

features I really don't want to see. (Read: anything

deliberately

incompatible.)


That's just another reason to go with a copyfree license
instead of the
GPL.



A copyfree license wouldn't have a stick preventing the implementation of an 
effective technological measure as described in Article 11 the 1996 WIPO treaty (GPL v3 
does).

If the (hypothetical) RFC explicitly says that copy-protection won't work (in the security 
considerations section), MAYBE a judge will decide any incompatible implementation is also 
ineffective at copy protection.


Regards,

James Phillips





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So how many different subjects are in here that don't thread ?

With all due respect: wheres Waldo ?

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Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm?

2009-10-04 Thread Robert Huff

Roland Smith writes:

   I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont 
   want to carry all the kernel sources around there.
  
  Keep in mind that some ports (those that contain kernel modules)
  require the kernel sources.

And not just kernel modules.  The popular and useful
sysutils/lsof not only requires the source tree (or at least some
part of it), but requires the source match the running kernel.


Robert Huff


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Postfix doesn't start

2009-10-04 Thread Vinzstyle
Hi,

I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I get this 
error when I try to start it :

Oct  4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix mail 
system
Oct  4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file 
/var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied

[r...@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/
drwx--  2 postfix  wheel  512 Oct  4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/

The mail_owner directive is set to postfix in main.cf

Is there some things to set up after the make install ? Did I miss something 
?

I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside a 
jail.

Thanks for your help :)
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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread yblent8
-- Leandro F Silva wrote : 
Hey guys,

Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ ..

We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D

http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060
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Re: Postfix doesn't start

2009-10-04 Thread Vinzstyle
Le dimanche 4 octobre 2009 21:09:05 jgi...@gmail.com, vous avez écrit :
 What are the actual permissions on the lock file, not just the containing
 directory?

 Josh
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Vinzstyle vinzst...@free.fr
 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:32
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Postfix doesn't start

 Hi,

 I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I get
 this error when I try to start it :

 Oct  4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix
 mail system
 Oct  4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file
 /var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied

 [r...@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/
 drwx--  2 postfix  wheel  512 Oct  4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/

 The mail_owner directive is set to postfix in main.cf

 Is there some things to set up after the make install ? Did I miss
 something ?

 I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside a
 jail.

 Thanks for your help :)
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The file isn't created by make install. If I create it with permissions 666 
and postfix as owner, I get the same error message...
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Re: Postfix doesn't start

2009-10-04 Thread jgimer
What are the actual permissions on the lock file, not just the containing 
directory?

Josh
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Vinzstyle vinzst...@free.fr
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:32 
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Postfix doesn't start

Hi,

I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I get this 
error when I try to start it :

Oct  4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix mail 
system
Oct  4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file 
/var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied

[r...@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/
drwx--  2 postfix  wheel  512 Oct  4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/

The mail_owner directive is set to postfix in main.cf

Is there some things to set up after the make install ? Did I miss something 
?

I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside a 
jail.

Thanks for your help :)
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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread Oliver Fromme
Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey guys,
  
  Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ ..

The latest Linuxulator works quite well on -current with
the Linux flash binary + pluginwrapper port, doesn't it?
Works for me, at least.

  We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D
  
  http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060

There's no way I'm going to create an account at Adobe
and give them my personal data.  No thanks.

Best regards
   Oliver


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Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works)

2009-10-04 Thread Nerius Landys
I had everything (Xorg + console mouse) working perfectly on my 6.3
system with slightly outdated ports.  Now I upgraded to 6.4 and the
latest ports.  I am getting some strange behavior with respect to the
mouse.  I did adjust some lines of rc.conf in the process of trying to
debug the problem (moused used to be enabled and now it's not).

I have a run-of-the-mill USB mouse hooked up.

In the console (before I type startx), I am able to move the mouse
cursor and copy+paste just fine in the console.  My rc.conf looks like
this (surprisingly, moused is NOT enalbed, and the console mouse DOES
WORK FINE):

  defaultrouter=192.168.0.254
  hostname=tweety.i
  ifconfig_em0=inet 192.168.0.5  netmask 255.255.255.0
  sshd_enable=YES
  usbd_enable=YES
  # added by xorg-libraries port
  local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d
  hald_enable=YES
  dbus_enable=YES

When I startx, the mouse cursor won't move.  I have nothing
currently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's missing).  I tried Xorg
-configure and copying the output of that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but
no change in behavior.

I am also trying to add

  moused_enable=YES

to my rc.conf.  Then when I try to start moused, I get the following error:

  Starting default moused:moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such
file or directory

Had a look in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, but cannot decide on what to
change in /etc/rc.conf to make X work.

I really see no point in starting moused if the console mouse is
already working, however.   Is that correct?

When I generated the xorg.conf with Xorg -configure, I did see this
section in the xorg.conf:

  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Mouse0
  Driver  mouse
  Option  Protocol auto
  Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
  Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
  EndSection

Any ideas on how to get mouse to work in X?  I had a good look at the
Handbook but everything I tried there did not fix the problem.
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Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works)

2009-10-04 Thread Glen Barber
Hi,

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]


 When I startx, the mouse cursor won't move.  I have nothing
 currently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's missing).  I tried Xorg
 -configure and copying the output of that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but
 no change in behavior.


[snip]

Have a look at ports/UPDATING, 20090124 20090123.  I, personally, am
not a fan of requiring hald/dbus to enable my mouse.  I added the
following to my xorg.conf:

Section ServerFlags
option  AutoAddDevicesoff
option  AllowEmptyInput   off
EndSection  

HTH

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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread James Phillips


--- On Sun, 10/4/09, jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:

 From: jhell jh...@dataix.net
 Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player
 To: James Phillips anti_spam...@yahoo.ca
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Received: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 1:07 PM
 
 
 
 On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:33 -0700, anti_spam256@ wrote:
Vague specific stuff about an ill-defined video standard 

 
 So how many different subjects are in here that don't
 thread ?
 
 With all due respect: wheres Waldo ?
 

Most on-topic is probably the licensing issue: I like the GPLv3, but many BSD 
users don't like it for the same reasons.

I don't want to publish comprehensive details about my (video format) idea 
until I have the format defined in a forward-compatible way. AS I am fantasy 
land, I think that people will try implementing incompatible versions as soon 
as it's published. The risk is that may happen anyway if my format is not good 
enough. 

I haven't even done testing to find out how well compression is performed. 
Second-Worst case (mono white noise), I estimate that loss-less compression 
will only be able to compress frame changes to ~25% of the original frame size. 
Lossy compression will be a simple averaging of nearby pixels for (multiples 
of) ~4:1 compression. Mpeg is supposed to get up to 300:1.

TL;DR: If you have to ask what the point is, it is probably off-topic and I can 
shut-up now.

Regards,

James Phillips 

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Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works)

2009-10-04 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Nerius Landys wrote:


I had everything (Xorg + console mouse) working perfectly on my 6.3
system with slightly outdated ports.  Now I upgraded to 6.4 and the
latest ports.  I am getting some strange behavior with respect to the
mouse.  I did adjust some lines of rc.conf in the process of trying to
debug the problem (moused used to be enabled and now it's not).

I have a run-of-the-mill USB mouse hooked up.

In the console (before I type startx), I am able to move the mouse
cursor and copy+paste just fine in the console.  My rc.conf looks like
this (surprisingly, moused is NOT enalbed, and the console mouse DOES
WORK FINE):


But if you check with ps, you'll find moused is running anyway.  It gets 
started so that hotplugging USB mice works.  See 
moused_nondefault_enable in rc.conf(5).  Since you have a USB mouse, you 
might as well add moused_enable=YES to rc.conf.



 defaultrouter=192.168.0.254
 hostname=tweety.i
 ifconfig_em0=inet 192.168.0.5  netmask 255.255.255.0
 sshd_enable=YES
 usbd_enable=YES
 # added by xorg-libraries port
 local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d
 hald_enable=YES
 dbus_enable=YES

When I startx, the mouse cursor won't move.  I have nothing 
currently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's missing).


Make sure that there isn't an xorg.conf somewhere else that's being 
used.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log will show for sure:


(==) Using config file: /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf

I tried Xorg -configure and copying the output of that to 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf, but no change in behavior.


That produces an increasingly outdated config file.


I am also trying to add

 moused_enable=YES

to my rc.conf.  Then when I try to start moused, I get the following error:

 Starting default moused:moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such
file or directory


Remember that moused is already running, and you may have to kill it 
before trying to re-run it with /etc/rc.d/moused.  Running 6.4 might 
make a difference, too; I don't know.



Had a look in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, but cannot decide on what to
change in /etc/rc.conf to make X work.

I really see no point in starting moused if the console mouse is
already working, however.   Is that correct?

When I generated the xorg.conf with Xorg -configure, I did see this
section in the xorg.conf:

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 Option  Protocol auto
 Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
 Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection

Any ideas on how to get mouse to work in X?  I had a good look at the
Handbook but everything I tried there did not fix the problem.


Enable hal and dbus (and moused) in rc.conf.  Make sure all are started 
and continue running; hal erroring out can be annoying.


If you were running without an xorg.conf before, that should be enough.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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RealPlayer broken

2009-10-04 Thread AN

On a new install of 8.0RC1, Realplayer fails to start with the following:

# realplay
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module: 
libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomebreakpad: libgnomebreakpad.so: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)

uname -a
FreeBSD core2.fu.bar 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Thu Sep 17 20:45:19 UTC 
2009 r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


pkg_info:
gnome2-2.26.3

pkg_info -xI linux
linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux 
Fedora 10)

linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-curl-7.19.4_4 The command line tool for transferring files with 
URL synta
linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22 RFC  SASL (Simple Authentication and 
Security Layer) (L
linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library 
(Linux

linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin
linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X 
Windows (Linux Fe

linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7 GTK+ library, version 2.X (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-jpeg-6b   RPM of the JPEG lib (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 The library implementing the SSH2 protocol (Linux 
Fedora 10

linux-f10-nspr-4.7.4 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Lightweight Directory Access Protocol 
libraries (Linux Fedo

linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 The pango library (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-png-1.2.37 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL 
database engi

linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10)
linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks
linux_base-f10-10_2 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode for 
i386/amd64 (L


I have Googled, however there is no mention of a solution.  Any help is 
appreciated.


TIA

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Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works)

2009-10-04 Thread Nerius Landys
Thanks for the tips guys.  I had a close look at both suggestions.

After further experimentation I found that this line in rc.conf:

  usbd_enable=YES

was causing the mouse pointer not to work in Xorg.  Simply removing
that line, all works perfectly.  So my end-result rc.conf is:

  defaultrouter=192.168.0.254
  hostname=tweety.i
  ifconfig_em0=inet 192.168.0.5  netmask 255.255.255.0
  sshd_enable=YES
  # added by xorg-libraries port
  local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d
  hald_enable=YES
  dbus_enable=YES

I found that adding the moused start just adds more confusion,
especially because moused is already started automatically because of,
I guess, the hald.

I just hope I'm not missing out on not having usbd_enable.

Kinda confusing stuff, I'm sure it's smoother in 7.x or 8.0.
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Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works)

2009-10-04 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Nerius Landys wrote:


Thanks for the tips guys.  I had a close look at both suggestions.

After further experimentation I found that this line in rc.conf:

 usbd_enable=YES

was causing the mouse pointer not to work in Xorg.  Simply removing
that line, all works perfectly.


Huh.  usbd went away at some point around 6.4, so that line shouldn't do 
anything.  I think.



 So my end-result rc.conf is:

 defaultrouter=192.168.0.254
 hostname=tweety.i
 ifconfig_em0=inet 192.168.0.5  netmask 255.255.255.0
 sshd_enable=YES
 # added by xorg-libraries port
 local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d
 hald_enable=YES
 dbus_enable=YES

I found that adding the moused start just adds more confusion,
especially because moused is already started automatically because of,
I guess, the hald.

I just hope I'm not missing out on not having usbd_enable.

Kinda confusing stuff, I'm sure it's smoother in 7.x or 8.0.



-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player

2009-10-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:01:14PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
 Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey guys,
   
   Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ ..
 
 The latest Linuxulator works quite well on -current with
 the Linux flash binary + pluginwrapper port, doesn't it?
 Works for me, at least.
 
   We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D
   
   http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060
 
 There's no way I'm going to create an account at Adobe
 and give them my personal data.  No thanks.
 
 Best regards
Oliver
 
 
sorry if this is just a ``me too'', but i cannot wait for flashit to
die [an overdue death]

gary

ps i'll sign up wherever i can!


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