NFSv3 and v4 slow with newnfs code
We are doing some performance testing on a new system. We have a OpenSolaris NFS server sharing a folder on a ZFS filesystem and a FreeBSD 8.1 NFS client. The machines are directly connected using 10GbE (no switch in-between). Below are the performance figures we attained when doing simple 10GB dd write (dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/file.tmp bs=1M count=10240) and read (dd of=/dev/null if=/mnt/file.tmp) tests over NFS from the FreeBSD client using various mount options. We performed these tests numerous times and all results are roughly the same for each test. We have tuned kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace. This didn't result in any significant differences in the test results. Both NFS client and server NICs have MTU set to 9000; this improves performance noticeable. Currently it appears sticking with the stable NFSv3 code yields the best results. Both NFSv3 and NFSv4 with the newnfs code has disappointing performance. We installed Linux on the client machine as a test and unfortunately Linux has the best performance by far. Are there any other options we can use to improve the performance of NFSv4 for large sequential writes and reads? FreeBSD NFSv4 \w newnfs --- mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 236.627936 secs, 43 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 131.385064 secs, 95 MB/s mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4,wsize=32768,rsize=32768 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 258.567077 secs, 39 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 120.646962 secs, 85 MB/s FreeBSD NFSv3 \w newnfs --- mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing 10737418240 bytes transferred in 215.963140 secs, 47 MB/s Reading 10737418240 bytes transferred in 101.110872 secs, 101 MB/s FreeBSD NFSv3 --- mount -t nfs -o nfsv3 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 161.739156 secs 63 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 72.327859 secs, 129 MB/s Linux NFSv4 (CentOS 5.5) --- Writing: 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 143.776 seconds, 75 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 63.7012 seconds, 170 MB/s --Nik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFSv3 and v4 slow with newnfs code
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Nikolai Schupbach niko...@net24.co.nzwrote: We are doing some performance testing on a new system. We have a OpenSolaris NFS server sharing a folder on a ZFS filesystem and a FreeBSD 8.1 NFS client. The machines are directly connected using 10GbE (no switch in-between). Below are the performance figures we attained when doing simple 10GB dd write (dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/file.tmp bs=1M count=10240) and read (dd of=/dev/null if=/mnt/file.tmp) tests over NFS from the FreeBSD client using various mount options. We performed these tests numerous times and all results are roughly the same for each test. We have tuned kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace. This didn't result in any significant differences in the test results. Both NFS client and server NICs have MTU set to 9000; this improves performance noticeable. Currently it appears sticking with the stable NFSv3 code yields the best results. Both NFSv3 and NFSv4 with the newnfs code has disappointing performance. We installed Linux on the client machine as a test and unfortunately Linux has the best performance by far. Are there any other options we can use to improve the performance of NFSv4 for large sequential writes and reads? You can use a UDP mount, should help a little. Have you measured your NIC's performance to see if that is the bottleneck. Perhaps the driver is subpar. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installation problem
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:05:39 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't have a memory stick, but I do have other hard drives, should I try it on the other HD's??? Have you been lucky to successfully boot from CD / DVD (1st question) and install FreeBSD onto the hard disk (2nd question)? Did the result then also boot (3rd question)? In case you suspect the hard drive to be any faulty (or at least acting strange), you could test with a spare disk. Doesn't need to be a tenmelonhundredterabytes disk just for testing. :-) I still suspect some remains of some Linux boot loader still present on the disk... If you have a floppy disk drive in your PC, you can download tomsRTBT, a Linux that fits onto one diskette. You can then use its dd command to wipe the first parts of the disk to make ENTIRELY SURE that there's no interfereing rest of a Linux boot loader. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Until FBSD X is working on the pc I have to use Netscape 4.79 on a Sun running Solaris 2.6 (which I would prefer to keep using if only a modern browser was available) ... If the problems with X on FBSD are limited to the X server (display subsystem), perhaps you can run X clients (such as a recent version of FireFox) on the FBSD box with DISPLAY set to the Solaris box. The simplest way of doing this is to ssh into the FBSD box from an xterm (or rxvt, or whatever) on the Solaris box. Depending on how ssh is set up you may (or may not) need to specify -X to get the X protocol forwarded. Forwarding will result in DISPLAY being set to something like localhost:10.0 in the FBSD shell session, and it should just work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
running FreeBSD on Windows host
Hello, I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) I have some questions: From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or Win7? Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Is there any tool in the ports to benchmark the disk i/o performance and compare the situation between now (FreeBSD native) and later (FreeBSD in a VM)? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
2010/8/23 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: Hello, Hi Matthias I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) I have some questions: From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or Win7? Windows 7 Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? VMware or Virtual PC http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx (Maybe some issues with the network) Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
Matthias Apitz skrev 2010-08-23 09:08: Hello, I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) I have some questions: From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or Win7? Win7 has much better performance. Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? I'm having a dualboot machine, win7 freebsd 8.0, and on top of freebsd I use VirtualBox for virtualisation. /Leslie Is there any tool in the ports to benchmark the disk i/o performance and compare the situation between now (FreeBSD native) and later (FreeBSD in a VM)? Thanks in advance matthias ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
On 23/08/2010 10:08 π.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) I have some questions: From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or Win7? Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
memory leak?
After a reboot of my FreeBSD 8.0-p4 system a vmstat shows: Mon Aug 23 08:40:00 CEST 2010 procs memory pagedisks faults cpu r b w avmfre flt re pi pofr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 1 1 0 1515M 7118M 816 5 5 0 726 0 0 0 138 2376 1740 1 2 97 My system had been allocated 8 Gb memory in a Vmware ESXi4 virtual machine. avm = active virtual pages, fre = size of free list 2525M + 7118M is 9600M is this normal? (more than 8 Gb..) six days ago is was: Tue Aug 17 14:15:00 CEST 2010 procs memory pagedisks faults cpu r b w avmfre flt re pi pofr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 3 1 0 2446M 1552M 628 0 0 0 621 6 0 0 30 939 572 1 1 98 but before the reboot it was Mon Aug 23 06:45:00 CEST 2010 procs memory pagedisks faults cpu r b w avmfre flt re pi pofr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 5 22 0 2260M 816M 489 0 0 0 478 2 0 0 27 957 580 1 198 avm + free adds up to only 3 Gb. Where is the rest of the memory ?? Is there a memory leak, how to find what causes the memory leak? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:39:14 +0300 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. I presume people mean VMWare Workstation when talking about VMWare, and not other products like ESXi? -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installation problem
Hi, In my case(stuck at bios splash after freebsd install) ,i had to give it to acer support ,as i risked losing warranty if i opened/dismantled my laptop. They have diagnosed harddrive to be faulty(the laptop is hardly 15 days old :-( ). The lappy was running ubuntu and fedora fine. Hope this does not repeat with my next try at freebsd . thanks, Mubeesh On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:05:39 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't have a memory stick, but I do have other hard drives, should I try it on the other HD's??? Have you been lucky to successfully boot from CD / DVD (1st question) and install FreeBSD onto the hard disk (2nd question)? Did the result then also boot (3rd question)? In case you suspect the hard drive to be any faulty (or at least acting strange), you could test with a spare disk. Doesn't need to be a tenmelonhundredterabytes disk just for testing. :-) I still suspect some remains of some Linux boot loader still present on the disk... If you have a floppy disk drive in your PC, you can download tomsRTBT, a Linux that fits onto one diskette. You can then use its dd command to wipe the first parts of the disk to make ENTIRELY SURE that there's no interfereing rest of a Linux boot loader. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
On 23/08/2010 1:31 μ.μ., Bruce Cran wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:39:14 +0300 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. I presume people mean VMWare Workstation when talking about VMWare, and not other products like ESXi? Yes, I mean Workstation. I'd love to see ESXi in action but have no real server-class machines around. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
On 23/08/2010 2:26 μ.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the exact opposite with great success: I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped the partitions and restored on real hardware. Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IO fluctuation
On Saturday 21 August 2010 19:48:32 Steffen Neubauer wrote: I think I can exclude the ZFS implementation too, because I tried dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/null and executed killall -SIGINFO dd while it was copying and it looked like it stalled randomly too. Not related your problem, but you can press ^T to send SIGINFO to the currently running process. Saves some typing :-) - Pieter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: memory leak?
On 08/23/10 11:50, n dhert wrote: After a reboot of my FreeBSD 8.0-p4 system a vmstat shows: Mon Aug 23 08:40:00 CEST 2010 procs memory pagedisks faults cpu r b w avmfre flt re pi pofr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 1 1 0 1515M 7118M 816 5 5 0 726 0 0 0 138 2376 1740 1 2 97 My system had been allocated 8 Gb memory in a Vmware ESXi4 virtual machine. avm = active virtual pages, fre = size of free list 2525M + 7118M is 9600M is this normal? (more than 8 Gb..) See here, on a physical machine with 4 GB RAM: procs memory pagedisks faults cpu r b w avmfre flt re pi pofr sr ad0 cd0 in sy cs us sy id 1 0 0 5571M 1254M30 0 0 029 0 0 08 519 522 0 0 100 We have 5571+1254=6825 MB. The catch is in the description - active *virtual* pages belonging to processes - they do not have to correspond to physical RAM. six days ago is was: 3 1 0 2446M 1552M 628 0 0 0 621 6 0 0 30 939 572 1 5 22 0 2260M 816M 489 0 0 0 478 2 0 0 27 957 580 avm + free adds up to only 3 Gb. Where is the rest of the memory ?? There are a lot other uses for memory. Try running top a couple of time when you seem to detect the leak and add together the various categories of memory. Is there a memory leak, how to find what causes the memory leak? If indeed there is, which is not probable, you first need to discover is it in a userland program or in kernel. If in kernel, use vmstat -m to track usage over time and see if some category increases when it shouldn't. Also, since you are running vmware, maybe you should try running emulators/open-vm-tools and its vmmemctl driver - it could help if your host is running out of memory. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
Garry wrote: Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. The Darwin core is a hybrid of Mach/BSD (xnu). The Darwin core is open source, and you can download the open source tools they use (and in cases such as CUPS, own and develop) from http://www.apple.com/opensource/ or http://www.opensource.apple.com/. To say they have given nothing back is untrue, they make their changes available which is not required, but that doesn't mean they're actually being used by the community. Their graphical system on top of Darwin is proprietary, but it is possible to build Darwin using the source code provided by Apple. There is only vendor lock in if you choose to use applications which only work in their graphical environment, but for most things that would cause vendor lock-in, they are either open source or available on multiple platforms. It's interesting you mention how Apple doesn't give back, as it has also been the case with Linux and related projects borrowing code from BSD and then not giving back by proving changes under an incompatible license. This has been discussed at length on the lists of some BSD project with an outspoken leader... Also, Linux and GPL software is not immune from the Apple treatment. Android uses the Dalvik VM for all of the software, and Dalvik is under the Apache license which allows for proprietary uses. You should notice this is definitely used to the fullest by cell phone vendors as they release source code for the kernel only. How is it Apple releases more code than is available for your typical Android device? This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. The productive hope is that good code will be used, and people will not write bad code instead due to overly restrictive licenses preventing them from using said good code. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Parklogic making a mess
2010-08-22 00:48, Bruce Cran skrev: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 Svein Skogensv...@stillbilde.net wrote: Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. I haven't seen them, and haven't looked for them. I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had hoped for! Ok. Then parklogic is permanetly blacklisted here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:12:59AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. If the kernel is the basis of an OS, then OS X is basically the Mach kernel. Kirk McKusick of FFS fame has been quoted as saying to the effect, The difference between Linux and BSD is that all BSDs have the same userland but different kernels. All Linuxes have the same kernel but differing userlands. The userland part of early versions of OS X borrowed heavily from NetBSD, but much of this has been replaced with FreeBSD in later version. Or so I'm told. What I've seen of it its been primarily FreeBSD from the start. There are also a number of FreeBSD device drivers in MacOS X, not the least of which is fxp. The irony of that is Apple has never shipped an Intel based NIC. Or at least not for years after fxp was included. The fxp man page existed in earlier MacOS X but not in 10.6.4. NICs supported by fxp were favorites of Jordan Hubbard and other FreeBSD'ers now working for Apple. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Until FBSD X is working on the pc I have to use Netscape 4.79 on a Sun running Solaris 2.6 (which I would prefer to keep using if only a modern browser was available) ... If the problems with X on FBSD are limited to the X server (display subsystem), perhaps you can run X clients (such as a recent version of FireFox) on the FBSD box with DISPLAY set to the Solaris box. The simplest way of doing this is to ssh into the FBSD box from an xterm (or rxvt, or whatever) on the Solaris box. Depending on how ssh is set up you may (or may not) need to specify -X to get the X protocol forwarded. Forwarding will result in DISPLAY being set to something like localhost:10.0 in the FBSD shell session, and it should just work. ___ The problem I was having is fixed now. xrdb was hanging for some reason to be fixed later. However, I am very much interested in your suggestion and planned to post some questions about how to do it when I had time to work on it. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: On 23/08/2010 2:26 μ.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the exact opposite with great success: I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped the partitions and restored on real hardware. Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi: I use Virtualbox for my desktop and have 1 VM running on Vsphere 4 (FreeBSD 8). Only have problem once of data loss because i used ATA disk instead of SCSI. Diego Arias -- mmm, interesante. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Directory Encryption?
What is a good tool to encrypt a directory? I need an application that is also readily available for Apple OSX, and that does not get mangled when transferring via rsync. Regards, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
Quoth Matthias Apitz on Monday, 23 August 2010: Hello, I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) I have some questions: From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or Win7? Win7, hands down. Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? I used VMWare Workstation. Most everything worked OK, but I did have an occasional spontaneous reboot of FreeBSD as a guest (this was back on version 7.2, I think -- haven't tried it on 8). -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpueowh2L0H8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
I use Win 7 64 bit - Virtual Box 3.2.6 r63112 with FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE / Xfce installed in Virtual Box have not had any issues at all. Diego On 23 August 2010 07:18, Diego Arias dak@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: On 23/08/2010 2:26 μ.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the exact opposite with great success: I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped the partitions and restored on real hardware. Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi: I use Virtualbox for my desktop and have 1 VM running on Vsphere 4 (FreeBSD 8). Only have problem once of data loss because i used ATA disk instead of SCSI. Diego Arias -- mmm, interesante. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:10:19PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: At 1:25 AM +0100 8/23/10, Garry wrote: Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. This is true. (or at least it definitely used to be true, I have no idea if Vista and Windows7 are still using the BSD networking stack). It's true either way, because Garry said (or used to use). It is true that MS Windows used to use a BSD licensed network stack. My understanding is that this got replaced in Vista, however, in case you're curious. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpn8eD9CAO2f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is this bunk.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:00:36AM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: As for the GPL itself, I think the biggest problem is who controls it and who enforces it. Companies get sued over busybox frequently, and not by the busybox developers. Stallman's views about how computers should work amounts to near anarchy http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html. I do not think anarchy is the correct term so much as chaos. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpMz1q0f0Sq5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Xorg Redux
Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I just run startx I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. As usual, help is very appreciated. ---Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 11:44 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I just run startx I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. As usual, help is very appreciated. Try adding this to xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 11:53 AM, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 11:44 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I just run startx I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. As usual, help is very appreciated. Try adding this to xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Regards, I misread your 'hald and dbus enabled' as 'disabled' initially, so this may or may not help. Do you see a mouse pointer when the screen goes blank? Also, can you include Xorg.log.0 and xorg.conf? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Directory Encryption?
Am 23.08.2010 16:36, schrieb Chris Maness: What is a good tool to encrypt a directory? I need an application that is also readily available for Apple OSX, and that does not get mangled when transferring via rsync. How about openssl'? Encrypt a TARed directory: $ tar cjf - /path/to/source/folder | \ openssl enc -e -bf -out OUTFILE.tgz.enc -pass pass:MYSILLYPASS Decrypt: $ openssl enc -d -bf \ -in OUTFILE.tgz.enc \ -out OUTFILE.tgz \ -pass pass:MYSILLYPASS There are also ways to encrypt with keys, see manpage. -- Timm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 23 August 2010: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:00:36AM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: As for the GPL itself, I think the biggest problem is who controls it and who enforces it. Companies get sued over busybox frequently, and not by the busybox developers. Stallman's views about how computers should work amounts to near anarchy http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html. I do not think anarchy is the correct term so much as chaos. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From the chaos created by a faux egalitarianism a Stal(in|lmann) always rises. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpwvaLkemAww.pgp Description: PGP signature
Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best?
Hi folks, I have several networking books (TCP/IP, Network Security, etc., etc.) and it seems that several of them discuss TCP/IP in different scenarios. One of the common discussions of different OSes are their own implementations of the TCP/IP stack. Most of the authors seem to agree that while different OSes have their pros and cons, most seem to agree that in terms of pure, network performance, no OS is better that FreeBSD! O.K., now you've got my curiosity... 1.) Do you agree? 2.) What makes the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack so much better and or different than other OSes??? 3.) Are there any good resources (URLs, books, etc.) that highlight the differences??? Thank you, Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I just run startx I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_X#History and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU It's a Mach-based kernel, with parts of FreeBSD's and NetBSD's userland. they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Apple is a big user of and contributor to the LLVM project [http://llvm.org/] to create a modular and reusable compiler and toolchain with a BSD-like license. See e.g. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/06/20/apples_other_open_secret_the_llvm_complier.html Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. No. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/6/19/05641/7357 Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. FreeBSD still exists. And so do NetBSD and OpenBSD. If someone wants to use BSD-licensed code, great. But if that company then decides not to contribute back they are not so smart. If they change the code but to not contribute back changes, the original developers don't know about it, nor can they merge it with their own developments. So over time the code-bases will diverge, and the company in question has to do more and more maintenance on that code. The crux of the matter is that if you don't contribute back you'll lose the advantage of open-source development and its community. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpphb3CGY0w0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 09:21, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I just run startx I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 Apparently IBM used a number of different graphics cards with this laptop. Pciconf -lv indicates a 855/GM Montara Integrated Graphics Device. I am in the process of copying the xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files over to this computer so that I can post them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load dri2 Load extmod Load glx Load record EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option DRI # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option DRI # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card1 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Card1 MonitorMonitor1 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
Dear Sir/Madam, Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it to. For more information on our business please click on the following link: [1]Click here for our website We look forward to your continued business in the future. Regards, Webmaster References 1. http://www.xpbargains.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
Apple is also giving back extensively in the X11 arena with pretty much everything they're doing in X11 being made available with current development and testing done by Apple employees withing the open source tree. X11 snapshots are openly available with extensive feedback through the x11-us...@apple.com list. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Many citizens because of their respect for what only appears to be a law are cunningly coerced into waiving their rights due to ignorance. -- U.S. v. Minker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 1:51 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? I suspect your laptop has an external connector for a second monitor. If so, can you plug a monitor in before trying what I suggested earlier? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
8.1 memstick installation
Hello, I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation image) on usb-stick. Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, or any hacked versions of it? And how do turn this stick in a running system? Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) Thanks in advance -- Gesendet von meinem Mobilgerät ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 10:51, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? No dice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best?
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 09:20:35AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: One of the common discussions of different OSes are their own implementations of the TCP/IP stack. Most of the authors seem to agree that while different OSes have their pros and cons, most seem to agree that in terms of pure, network performance, no OS is better that FreeBSD! O.K., now you've got my curiosity... 1.) Do you agree? What is the definition of best? I've saturated a 100 Mbps network link between two FreeBSD machines using nc(1) without the CPU's breaking a sweat. So it's definitely Good Enough wrt speed. And I don't see many dropped packets or errors. However it does not follow that there aren't other operating systems capable of the same. And it depends to a significant degree on the network hardware. Intel and 3com cards tend to work much better than e.g. Realtek. And a dodgy cable will ruin your day connection wise. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpM9xDOrReWg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 10:59, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 1:51 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_configconfig=xconfiglaptop=12947 Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? I suspect your laptop has an external connector for a second monitor. If so, can you plug a monitor in before trying what I suggested earlier? Too late :-) . I forgot to mention that previous to my installing 8.1 I had PCBSD 8.1 installed just to check it out (no likee), and the PCBSD installer had no problem configuring X. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of that xorg.conf. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.1 memstick installation
On 2010-08-23 19:34, Friedemann Becker wrote: Hello, I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation image) on usb-stick. Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, or any hacked versions of it? And how do turn this stick in a running system? Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) Thanks in advance Check my old message on how to do this in FreeBSD 7.2. The same instructions should work for 8.1 too, just change the version references. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/201928.html /Morgan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to configure ppp connection
Hello! (First of all - forgive me my language, I'am form Poland) I'am new in FreeBSD, but I have used Linux for a few year. I have got mobile modem: Huawei e1750c. As far as I know it is supported by u3g driver. On Linux I use wvdial as a dialer, and there are no problems with connection. On FreeBSD I just can't find propper ppp.conf, however I spend many hours googling and trying some. --- There are data needed to establish connection: ASP: internet user: password: phone: *99# --- my wvdial (Linux) config file: Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 Baud = 57600 Init1 = ATH Init2 = ATE1 Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,IP,internet Dial Command = ATD Phone = *99# Stupid mode = yes Username = blank Password = blank Auto DNS = yes --- There is one of ppp.conf I tried: default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuaU0.0 set speed 115200 set dial ABORT BUSY TIMEOUT 2 \ \\ \ AT OK-AT-OK \ AT+CFUN=1 OK-AT-OK \ AT+CMEE=2 OK-AT-OK \ AT+CSQ OK \ AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\IP\\\,\\\internet\\\ OK \ AT+CGACT? OK-AT-OK \ AT+CGATT? OK \ AT+CGCLASS? OK \ AT+COPS? OK \ ATD*99# CONNECT set timeout 180 enable dns set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR --- After i plug modem i got: ugen4.2: HUAWEI Technology at usbus4 ugen4.2: HUAWEI Technology at usbus4 (disconnected) ugen4.2: HUAWEI Technology at usbus4 [b]u3g0: HUAWEI Technology HUAWEI Mobile, class 0/0, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 on usbus4 u3g0: Found 3 ports.[/b] umass0: HUAWEI Technology HUAWEI Mobile, class 0/0, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 on usbus4 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 umass1: HUAWEI Technology HUAWEI Mobile, class 0/0, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 on usbus4 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: HUAWEI Mass Storage 2.31 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present umass1:1:1:-1: Attached to scbus1 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 da0: HUAWEI SD Storage 2.31 Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present --- when i try to use ppp default and then dial i got: # ppp default Loading /lib/libalias_cuseeme.so Loading /lib/libalias_ftp.so Loading /lib/libalias_irc.so Loading /lib/libalias_nbt.so Loading /lib/libalias_pptp.so Loading /lib/libalias_skinny.so Loading /lib/libalias_smedia.so Working in interactive mode Using interface: tun0 Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon ppp ON localhost dial Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad1: Bad file descriptor Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad0: Bad file descriptor --- Nothing happens, there is still no connection. Some device nodes are created after I plug a modem. There is diff result of listed /dev pre and post pluging: ja...@iac-deb:~$ diff /media/disk/pre_dev /media/disk/post_dev 17a18 cd0 20a22,30 cuaU0.0 cuaU0.0.init cuaU0.0.lock cuaU0.1 cuaU0.1.init cuaU0.1.lock cuaU0.2 cuaU0.2.init cuaU0.2.lock 23a34 da0 43a55,56 pass0 pass1 51a65,73 ttyU0.0 ttyU0.0.init ttyU0.0.lock ttyU0.1 ttyU0.1.init ttyU0.1.lock ttyU0.2 ttyU0.2.init ttyU0.2.lock 77a100 ugen4.2 --- I would be very gratefull if You could help me to configure ppp.conf. FreeBSD without internt connection is useless for me... :( Thanks, Jakub Nowacki. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.1 memstick installation
On 8/23/10 1:34 PM, Friedemann Becker wrote: Hello, I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation image) on usb-stick. Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, or any hacked versions of it? And how do turn this stick in a running system? Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) You can try UnxUtils, from Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unxutils/ dd.exe is included. (I haven't tested making a bootable memory stick on a Windows machine). Regards (and let me know if it works), -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to configure ppp connection
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:05:32 +0200, Jakub Nowacki poczta.jnowa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! (First of all - forgive me my language, I'am form Poland) Dobre. :-) I'am new in FreeBSD, but I have used Linux for a few year. As a first note, know that FreeBSD has *excellent* manpages. Know the apropos and man commands, as they will always help you. I have got mobile modem: Huawei e1750c. As far as I know it is supported by u3g driver. On Linux I use wvdial as a dialer, and there are no problems with connection. On FreeBSD I just can't find propper ppp.conf, however I spend many hours googling and trying some. You don't need google as a means of OS documentation. :-) First, check /etc/ppp/ppp.conf which is the PPP configuration file. Also, read man ppp. I have used ppp.conf in the past for dealing with PPPoE, and it worked without any problems. when i try to use ppp default and then dial i got: You should define your own label for the connection in ppp.conf, e. g. the name of the provider (doesn't have to be very verbose). # ppp default Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon Check those. ppp ON localhost dial Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad1: Bad file descriptor Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad0: Bad file descriptor PPP tries to access regular serial lines. Nothing happens, there is still no connection. Sorry, I don't know enough about wireless network to be more specific, but allow me this guess: If your connection requires PPPoE, you could code something like this: blah: set device PPPoE:device set authname accountname set authkey password set dial set login add default HISADDR Then, ppp blah would be used for manual dialing. I'm not sure in how far you are required to code AT dialing sequences. Some device nodes are created after I plug a modem. There is diff result of listed /dev pre and post pluging: ja...@iac-deb:~$ diff /media/disk/pre_dev /media/disk/post_dev 17a18 cd0 20a22,30 cuaU0.0 cuaU0.0.init cuaU0.0.lock cuaU0.1 cuaU0.1.init cuaU0.1.lock cuaU0.2 cuaU0.2.init cuaU0.2.lock 23a34 da0 43a55,56 pass0 pass1 51a65,73 ttyU0.0 ttyU0.0.init ttyU0.0.lock ttyU0.1 ttyU0.1.init ttyU0.1.lock ttyU0.2 ttyU0.2.init ttyU0.2.lock 77a100 ugen4.2 --- I would be very gratefull if You could help me to configure ppp.conf. The ttyU* and cuaU* devices obviously belong to the modem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:1 EndSection Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: I forgot to mention that previous to my installing 8.1 I had PCBSD 8.1 installed just to check it out (no likee), and the PCBSD installer had no problem configuring X. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of that xorg.conf. PCBSD has a live mode to run without installing. Boot into that and copy the xorg.conf to external media.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 3:08 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:1 EndSection Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. I wonder what's listed in the BIOS. Rem, can you check if there is more than one display adapter listed there? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. Doesn't have to be - maybe it's one VGA and one DVI output? It's also possible that a DVI output can be controlled via the chipset used, but isn't present as an actual connector. My good (really!) old ATI Radeon 9200 shows up similarly: Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (Secondary) BusID PCI:1:0:1 Screen 1 EndSection Note the different BusID. A similar mentioning should happen in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: On 08/23/10 10:51, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? No dice. Okay, steps to try: 1. Rename xorg.conf and try without it. If it works, you're done. 2. Delete Monitor 1 and one of the Device sections. Not sure which, but it's 50/50. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to configure ppp connection
Dnia poniedziałek, 23 sierpnia 2010 o 21:03:32 Polytropon napisał(a): ppp ON localhost dial Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad1: Bad file descriptor Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad0: Bad file descriptor PPP tries to access regular serial lines. Nothing happens, there is still no connection. Sorry, I don't know enough about wireless network to be more specific, but allow me this guess: If your connection requires PPPoE, you could code something like this: blah: set device PPPoE:device set authname accountname set authkey password set dial set login add default HISADDR Then, ppp blah would be used for manual dialing. I'm not sure in how far you are required to code AT dialing sequences. It's broadband, mobile (celluar?) connection via Play (www.playmobile.pl) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best?
Thanks Roland, The books that I have refer to the efficiency of the stack. Perhaps that's what the authors are referring to as you've referenced being able to saturate a link with traffic and there's little, if any, dropped packets? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. Doesn't have to be - maybe it's one VGA and one DVI output? It's also possible that a DVI output can be controlled via the chipset used, but isn't present as an actual connector. My good (really!) old ATI Radeon 9200 shows up similarly: Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (Secondary) BusID PCI:1:0:1 Screen 1 EndSection Note the different BusID. A similar mentioning should happen in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Maybe it's the older cards. ISTR seeing that before, but it's been a long time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Is this bunk.
Thank you all for your replies. The information I posted to you all was NOT my opinion or statement. I use and like FreeBSD more than windows having been introduced to it by a friend some years ago. I was and am most certainly NOT trolling, I merely did not know how much truth was in the statement that it was anything to do with Apple. In fact the message I sent was quoted from the original sender to me an Mr Oliver Stiebel when I asked him what BSD had to do with Apple. When he originally sent me this message I wouldn't recommend Apple to anyone. in response to my message. Linux Oliver !, lets at least go for one of the BSD flavours. Personally I prefer FreeBSD. Thank you for your help. I am willing to send a single person on this list a copy of the original email as I received as proof of this conversation, I have no wish to be considered a troll on this group. As I said I had no knowledge of Apple having anything to do with BSD and so asked for clarifications sake for myself. Garry -Original Message- From: David Kelly [mailto:dke...@hiwaay.net] Sent: 23 August 2010 04:18 To: Garry Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Apple hired a lot of key people from the FreeBSD project. I don't know just what comes back to FreeBSD out of Apple but suspect the reason you and myself don't know is that Apple doesn't care to toot their own horn. Apple made a significant contribution a while back testing and improving NFS. As for how much of MacOS X is BSD, pretty much all of the command line stuff. Apple has gone to great lengths to XML-ize most everything so while MacOS is BSD, its probably the most distant BSD cousin. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. NT 3.51 used to flash a Berkeley Software Distribution copyright message on the text console during boot because some code was used. Doubt MS could leave well enough alone to simply lift the entire stack. The VMS-inspired NT kernel was probably not organized in such a way as to optimally use an unmodified BSD network protocol stack. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. So why are you here? Trolling? It bugs the heck out of some people when others manage to build on their work to make something better, and then not give it away to everyone else. Others realize that if what we do is truly useful then others will want to use it to build bigger and better things. That it doesn't matter if we sell our work or give it away, what others do with it is no skin off our noses. Our original work is still exactly as accessible as it was before others made something more of their own version of it. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. Thats one of the big problems of the GPL-mindset. Seems they spend a whole lot more time cloning the work of others than in actually creating anything new. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. There is nothing in the BSD license permitting a hostile takeover. Some would claim FreeBSD has executed a hostile takeover of what it is to be BSD. The pre-FreeBSD code is out there, you are welcome to it. Some would say OpenBSD attempted a hostile takeover of BSD. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 12:14, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 3:08 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver intel VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device BusID PCI:0:2:1 EndSection Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. I wonder what's listed in the BIOS. Rem, can you check if there is more than one display adapter listed there? Interesting. The bios indicates two boot display devices, ThinkPad LCD, and Analog (VGA). There is actually a third choice, both. The bios defaults to ThinkPad LCD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
See what Connor has been up to...
Jerry, Congratulations! You and Connor are now connected. Connor Burke Computer Software Professional Austin, Texas Area Computer Software Industry cwbu...@gmail.com To view Connor Burke's profile, go to http://www.linkedin.com/e/fiopes-gd7titd1-6g/fpf/17644572/EML-inv-acc-prof/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any awk gurus on the list?
--On Friday, August 20, 2010 17:24:55 -0700 Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Paul == Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com writes: Paul Yes, I know I could do this easily in Perl. I'm doing this to try Paul and improve my understanding of awk. To what end? Every modern system that can run awk can also run Perl. Why not concentrate on Perl? Three reasons. Perl is too easy (for this particular problem.) :-) Perl isn't part of the base system for FreeBSD. # ls -lsa /usr/bin/perl 0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25 Jul 29 22:53 /usr/bin/perl - /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.1 # ls -lsa /usr/bin/awk 134 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 135472 Jul 4 2008 /usr/bin/awk It never hurts to learn new things, especially things that might get you out of a jam when a system isn't working as expected and you have access to a limited number of tools to solve the problem. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 12:11, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: I forgot to mention that previous to my installing 8.1 I had PCBSD 8.1 installed just to check it out (no likee), and the PCBSD installer had no problem configuring X. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of that xorg.conf. PCBSD has a live mode to run without installing. Boot into that and copy the xorg.conf to external media. I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration in the Device section: Option NoAccel On___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 14:34, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration in the Device section: Option NoAccel On Nope. BTW, thanks for hanging in here. I've never had trouble like this getting X11 to function. Of course, I've never tried to install 8.1 on a Thinkpad either. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 5:51 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: On 08/23/10 14:34, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration in the Device section: Option NoAccel On Nope. BTW, thanks for hanging in here. I've never had trouble like this getting X11 to function. Of course, I've never tried to install 8.1 on a Thinkpad either. Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 15:31, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 5:51 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: On 08/23/10 14:34, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration in the Device section: Option NoAccel On Nope. BTW, thanks for hanging in here. I've never had trouble like this getting X11 to function. Of course, I've never tried to install 8.1 on a Thinkpad either. Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. No, when the screen goes blank the whole computer freezes. No mouse, no keyboard. And I also noticed that the wireless indicator freezes in the on position. Everything stops dead its tracks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.1 memstick installation
Friedemann Becker wrote: Hello, I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation image) on usb-stick. Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, or any hacked versions of it? And how do turn this stick in a running system? Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) Thanks in advance http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361 http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4389 https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 7:01 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. No, when the screen goes blank the whole computer freezes. No mouse, no keyboard. And I also noticed that the wireless indicator freezes in the on position. Everything stops dead its tracks. In your xorg.conf, switch 'Driver intel' to 'Driver vesa', and see if it hangs with that. In addition, it might be helpful to build debugging options into your GENERIC kernel. If you're willing to go down this path, I'll help you get set up, but the gory details are here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html First, let's try the vesa thing. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 7:33 PM, Glen Barber wrote: In addition, it might be helpful to build debugging options into your GENERIC kernel. If you're willing to go down this path, I'll help you get set up, I should mention, though - I used to have issues with the nVidia driver putting my machine in an unusable state, similar to what you are describing. Though the more recent versions of that driver seem to have mostly fixed my issues, it still gives intermittent problems. As a result, I have since been using the Xorg nv driver. What made the problem worse is that I couldn't get any debugging information, no matter what debugging options I had built into the kernel. Just mentioning this in case you _are_ willing to do this. In my case, I wasn't able to grab anything useful. (By the way, does anything except 'minfree' exist in /var/crash ?) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 16:33, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 7:01 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. No, when the screen goes blank the whole computer freezes. No mouse, no keyboard. And I also noticed that the wireless indicator freezes in the on position. Everything stops dead its tracks. In your xorg.conf, switch 'Driver intel' to 'Driver vesa', and see if it hangs with that. In addition, it might be helpful to build debugging options into your GENERIC kernel. If you're willing to go down this path, I'll help you get set up, but the gory details are here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html First, let's try the vesa thing. Eureka! I changed Driver to vesa in both of the Device sections and X now loads. I doubt that vesa is the ideal entry in the configuration, but at this point I'm not going to complain. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 08/23/10 16:59, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/23/10 7:53 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: First, let's try the vesa thing. Eureka! I changed Driver to vesa in both of the Device sections and X now loads. I doubt that vesa is the ideal entry in the configuration, but at this point I'm not going to complain. Great. It looks like the intel driver is the problem then. vesa will work, but I'd expect it will perform suboptimal, comparatively. Are you interested in helping find out what the real problem is? Definitely! I have time on my hands, and I love learning about this system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Redux
On 8/23/10 7:53 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: First, let's try the vesa thing. Eureka! I changed Driver to vesa in both of the Device sections and X now loads. I doubt that vesa is the ideal entry in the configuration, but at this point I'm not going to complain. Great. It looks like the intel driver is the problem then. vesa will work, but I'd expect it will perform suboptimal, comparatively. Are you interested in helping find out what the real problem is? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best?
On 8/23/2010 11:20 AM, Ed Flecko wrote: Hi folks, I have several networking books (TCP/IP, Network Security, etc., etc.) and it seems that several of them discuss TCP/IP in different scenarios. One of the common discussions of different OSes are their own implementations of the TCP/IP stack. Most of the authors seem to agree that while different OSes have their pros and cons, most seem to agree that in terms of pure, network performance, no OS is better that FreeBSD! O.K., now you've got my curiosity... 1.) Do you agree? 2.) What makes the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack so much better and or different than other OSes??? 3.) Are there any good resources (URLs, books, etc.) that highlight the differences??? Thank you, Ed 1: I don't know if I would call it the best without more details or some benchmarks. Also really depends on your criteria for best really is. That's a pretty general remark. The only info I could find are some old ones, but only tests a few things network wise: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ 2: Again, I don't know if it's better; but it's been around awhile and has been very stable and robust in my personal experience. 3: Sorry, I couldn't find much on google except what I posted above. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best?
Perhaps they rely on the opinions of other OSes' developers -- many of whom have borrowed FreeBSD TCP/IP code to bootstrap their own network stacks. Of course, I think a number of factors contribute to this without necessarily proving it is the technical best: * BSD Unix was first out the gate in the race to TCP/IP. * FreeBSD uses the BSD License, which makes its code easy to reuse. * Developers for the various open source BSD Unix systems tend to have a high regard for correctness. * I haven't looked at it personally, but have heard that FreeBSD's TCP/IP stack source code is quite clean and readable -- and therefore easily reused. There may be other reasons involved. FreeBSD does tend to rate fairly well in network performance benchmarks, by the way, but those benchmarks are not typically tuned for testing the TCP/IP stack *specifically*, from what I've seen. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpMGrF1g9f6K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Telnet Secure login SRA?
I've just reset my telnet setup, now it comes up with a SRA secure login prompt, how can I get rid of it. I'm just using it for a short while to troubleshoot another installation, Qmail. telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Trying SRA secure login: User (UserName): Then if I do telnet local host 25 == telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection reset by peer telnet: Unable to connect to remote host Don't know if the SRA prompt is impeding the connection to the port -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Telnet-Secure-login-SRA--tp29518731p29518731.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
