Re: Telnet Secure login SRA?
In the last episode (Aug 23), jaymax said: I've just reset my telnet setup, now it comes up with a SRA secure login prompt, how can I get rid of it. I'm just using it for a short while to troubleshoot another installation, Qmail. telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Trying SRA secure login: User (UserName): SRA is a login sequence that encrypts the password (something that regular telnet doesn't do). It's only is activated if the other end advertises itself as a telnet server. Then if I do telnet local host 25 == telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection reset by peer telnet: Unable to connect to remote host That means that whatever was listening on port 25 reset the connection. Don't know if the SRA prompt is impeding the connection to the port It isn't. Say, didn't I answer a similar question a week ago? Hm. Looks like you responded but I never saw the response. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-August/220263.html Looking at that tcpdump output, it looks like qmail accepted the connection then immediately dropped it. You'll have to look at your qmail logs to find out why. If it's not generating logs, try running truss or ktrace on the listening process to see if it's crashing on you before it has a change to log anything. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 02:31:08PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the exact opposite with great success: I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped the partitions and restored on real hardware. Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. I have produced three dumps: from the /, /var and /usr file system. The man page of restore(8) reads about creating pristine file system, made by newfs(8). Later, in the VM environment, I'd like to have only one big file system... Is it possible to restore the tree dumps into one big file system or do I have to rebuild the same slicing as I now have? In the original posting I was asking for some kind of benchmark tool in the ports, to compare current and VM disk i/o... any hits? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got unsupported inode size when trying to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. With FreeBSD through 7.2, I could mount, but got Bad file descriptor when trying to access the Linux partition. With FreeBSD 8.0, I could mount and read the Linux partition, but in the only attempt to write to the ext2fs partition, I was editing a file with vi, and when I tried to write (save), the file was truncated. I was able to recover by saving to FreeBSD file system and copying to msdos (FAT32) partition and subsequently copying to the Linux partition (this was a nonbootable USB stick used for data rather than Linux installation). I haven't tried under FreeBSD 8.1 yet. Would I have better luck using newfs_ext2fs from NetBSD or FreeBSD and possibly getting a flavor of ext2fs more to BSD's liking? This would be for data as opposed to Linux installation. There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject Re: External HD, that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each other's disklabels. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host
On 24/08/2010 11:42 π.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 02:31:08PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the exact opposite with great success: I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped the partitions and restored on real hardware. Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. I have produced three dumps: from the /, /var and /usr file system. The man page of restore(8) reads about creating pristine file system, made by newfs(8). Later, in the VM environment, I'd like to have only one big file system... Is it possible to restore the tree dumps into one big file system or do I have to rebuild the same slicing as I now have? You won't have to rebuild the slicing. Just create the relevant directories in your big file system, cd into them and use restore. In the original posting I was asking for some kind of benchmark tool in the ports, to compare current and VM disk i/o... any hits? Thanks matthias Sorry I have no hard evidence on that. FWIW, virtual desktop systems running on core2duo class machines feel very fast and responsive. Definitely faster than my Atom 330 (dual core) running FreeBSD natively. There are lots of benchmarks in ports/benchmarks, some of them may be useful. I've used bonnie / bonnie++ in the past, but I am never certain I can interpret the results in a meaningful way. The base system gstat could also prove useful. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
the problem is not which version of mkfs (ext2fs) you use.
the problem is that BSD only handle ext2fs partitions with 128b inodes,
while default value is 256.
when running mkfs/newfs, be sure to specify -I 128
also, I won't recommand ntfs.
but, ntfs works correctly under BSD and Linux.
so, if you just want the partition to be read/writeable on both BSD and
Linux, and don't wan't to use 128b inodes, nor ext2, you may wanna consider
using fat (except the file size limit thing, it works great), or ntfs (quite
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Thomas Mueller
mueller6...@bellsouth.netwrote:
What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely
written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD?
With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got unsupported inode size when trying to
mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD.
With FreeBSD through 7.2, I could mount, but got Bad file descriptor when
trying to access the Linux partition. With FreeBSD 8.0, I could mount and
read the Linux partition, but in the only attempt to write to the ext2fs
partition, I was editing a file with vi, and when I tried to write (save),
the file was truncated. I was able to recover by saving to FreeBSD file
system and copying to msdos (FAT32) partition and subsequently copying to
the Linux partition (this was a nonbootable USB stick used for data rather
than Linux installation). I haven't tried under FreeBSD 8.1 yet.
Would I have better luck using newfs_ext2fs from NetBSD or FreeBSD and
possibly getting a flavor of ext2fs more to BSD's liking? This would be for
data as opposed to Linux installation.
There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run
FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data
between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some
problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity.
But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice?
Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS
partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject Re:
External HD, that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure
that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other
non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS.
There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to
be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems
unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each
other's disklabels. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some
newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD).
Tom
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Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:53:09 +, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? There is a way around this: Put the files to be transferred into a tar archive. In this way, only the archives name will have to obey 8.3, and its content will keep intact (case sensitive long file names); the only downside is that extraction in DOS will result in 8.3 filenames again (there's TAR.EXE for DOS). Know that tar is the most universal file system. :-) I did use this approach in the past when having to fransfer files between non-networked UNIX and Linux systems via floppy disk: Simply used tar directly on the device (which's device name was of course different on all the systems). Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject Re: External HD, that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. NTFS is known to be an unstable file system. There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each other's disklabels. Linux and DOS do, as far as I remember, only operate on slice level. Partitioned slices (such as FreeBSD uses them) are a bit problematic. With 4 slices (so called DOS primary partitions) a disk is full. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). An option would be to avoid the file system level at all. Maybe that's not a solution to your requirements, but let me mention this: In a interoperability environment, I did use a disk enclosure with built-in FTP server. In this way, all OSes can r/w access its content via FTP. There are no limits regarding 8.3 filenames. Even MacOS X runs well in such a setting. The downside, of course, is that you have to run a FTP session for every transfer (instead of just mounting a disk's partition), but it's basically no problem to use a kind of FTP-backed file system, I think I have seen this in some KDE or Gnome... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sendmail rdns question
Hi, Sorry for posting on a bsd list but i figure there's more than a few sendmail experts here. I would like to run reverse dns checks on one of my boxes but the check_rnds macro looks a bit overkill to me. I want to reject the mail if there's no reverse dns, but not if there is rdns but the PTR loop isn't closed (which is very common). So accepting these types: reject=451 4.1.8 Possibly forged hostname for but rejecting these types reject=550 5.7.1 ... Fix reverse DNS for ... In sendmail, FEATURE(`require_rdns')dnl seems to do both. many thanks Paul. -- - Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting - t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: p...@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com - IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon Sent: 24. august 2010 12:55 To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). An option would be to avoid the file system level at all. Maybe that's not a solution to your requirements, but let me mention this: In a interoperability environment, I did use a disk enclosure with built-in FTP server. In this way, all OSes can r/w access its content via FTP. There are no limits regarding 8.3 filenames. Even MacOS X runs well in such a setting. The downside, of course, is that you have to run a FTP session for every transfer (instead of just mounting a disk's partition), but it's basically no problem to use a kind of FTP- backed file system, I think I have seen this in some KDE or Gnome... I've successfully used CIFS/Samba and NFS between Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Solaris and Windows for years. Easy to set up and works well. If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; with Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS clients are dodgy at best. - Christer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ghostscript-8.71 update
Trying to update ghostscript, but seems to fail. Can somebody provide me with info on how to solve this? Here error during build of port .. cc -DHAVE_MKSTEMP -DHAVE_HYPOT -DHAVE_FONTCONFIG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DUPD_SIGNAL=0 -I. -I/usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.71/jasper/src/libjasper/include -I/usr/local/include/libpng -I/usr/local/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -fno-builtin -fno-common -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DGX_COLOR_INDEX_TYPE=unsigned long long -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DUSE_LIBPAPER -DGS_DEVS_SHARED -DGS_DEVS_SHARED_DIR=\/usr/local/lib/ghostscript/8.71\ -I./obj/../soobj -I./base -g -o ./bin/../sobin/gsc ./psi/dxmainc.c -L./bin/../sobin -lgs ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_buffer_page' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_start_render_thread' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_get_data' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_put_params' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_open_render_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_close_render_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_clear_known' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_open' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_print_page_copies' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_size_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_write_ctm' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gs_clist_device_procs' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_setup_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_get_space_params' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_get_params' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_read_matrix' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_pattern_manage' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_write_ctm_return_length_nodevice' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_put_color_mapping' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_close' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_writer_check_empty_cropping_stack' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `st_device_clist' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_playback_file_bands' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_destroy_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_output_page' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_init_io_procs' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_put_data' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_create_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_get_bits' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_end_page' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_data_size' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `st_device_printer' gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/gsc] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.71' ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall20100824-60860-1222o6h-0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! print/ghostscript8(linker error) Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/local/sbin/portinstall print/ghostscript8 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installation problem
Hi, On Monday 23 August 2010 15:01:22 Mubeesh ali wrote: Hi, In my case(stuck at bios splash after freebsd install) ,i had to give it to acer support ,as i risked losing warranty if i opened/dismantled my laptop. They have diagnosed harddrive to be faulty(the laptop is hardly 15 days old :-( ). The lappy was running ubuntu and fedora fine. this is real bad luck. Hope this does not repeat with my next try at freebsd . This was just a hardware fault not detected at the factory. This happens. Good luck for your next installation. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Msmtp
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Molecular Modeling Software?
Is there any molecular modeling software in ports? Regards, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Molecular Modeling Software?
Maybe /usr/ports/biology/pymol is what you need On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Is there any molecular modeling software in ports? Regards, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Molecular Modeling Software?
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Rodrigo Gonzalez rjgonz...@estrads.com.ar wrote: Maybe /usr/ports/biology/pymol is what you need On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: Is there any molecular modeling software in ports? Regards, Chris Maness Yea, I see that one there plus tinker and vmd. I want to do a spectroscopy lab with my chemistry students, and I am wondering if any of these would do emission line predictions. Any suggestions? Regards, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:04 -0400, Christer Solstrand Johannessen chris...@csj.no wrote: If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; Yes, I forgot to mention NFS. Of course it works, as the support for it in UNIX, Linux, BSD and Mac OS X is sufficiently good. But it may not be a solution in a one-PC-setting. :-) with Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS clients are dodgy at best. I've also seen enclosures for hard disks including a CIFS share management system via their network connection. A built-in browser- accessible configuration tool can be used for customization. As there is no separate software on the hard disk itself, the disk can be replaced easily (if full or defective). This would be an acceptable add-on for the PC in a one-PC-setting. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? Regards, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? Unless you're using ECC RAM, bad RAM should still be #1 on your watchlist, closely followed by bad PSU. Even RAM that worked fine in the past can start exhibiting bit errors a few years later (maybe due to mechanical stress, i.e. vibrations or frequent temperature differences?) and esp. el cheapo PSUs have the tendency to degrade over time. Of course, a software bug may always be possible. Have you tried to get a core dump? If so, does the error always happen at the same place (backtrace / bt is your friend)? If the error keeps occurring at different locations, it's almost always dodgy hardware. Regards, Chris Maness -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:29:31PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:04 -0400, Christer Solstrand Johannessen chris...@csj.no wrote: If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; Yes, I forgot to mention NFS. Of course it works, as the support for it in UNIX, Linux, BSD and Mac OS X is sufficiently good. But it may not be a solution in a one-PC-setting. :-) with Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS clients are dodgy at best. I have deleted the OP, so I may not remember exactly what [s]he is looking for, but if it is just to have some common space that each OS can read/write, but not necessarily boot from eg each OS has its own bootable disk space and this is just used between then, then maybe FAT32 might do the trick. It doesn't preserve some of the UNIX ownership and permission stuff though. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Opera 10.61 (FreeBSD 8/i386) crash - can't read kernel memory
Why does Opera 10.61.6430 want to read kernel memory (on FreeBSD 8[.0]-STABLE/i386), leading to eventual death ... opera [crash logging]: Can't read kernel memory: : /dev/mem: Permission denied opera [crash logging]: CRASH!! no name got signal SIGSEGV at address 0819DEA6 ... while shutting down normally? (Yes, of course, only root:kmem has read access to /dev/mem.) Also, is there any way to prevent creation of /var/tmp/crashdatetime.txt every time it crashes? - parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On 8/24/2010 4:53 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got unsupported inode size when trying to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. With FreeBSD through 7.2, I could mount, but got Bad file descriptor when trying to access the Linux partition. With FreeBSD 8.0, I could mount and read the Linux partition, but in the only attempt to write to the ext2fs partition, I was editing a file with vi, and when I tried to write (save), the file was truncated. I was able to recover by saving to FreeBSD file system and copying to msdos (FAT32) partition and subsequently copying to the Linux partition (this was a nonbootable USB stick used for data rather than Linux installation). I haven't tried under FreeBSD 8.1 yet. Would I have better luck using newfs_ext2fs from NetBSD or FreeBSD and possibly getting a flavor of ext2fs more to BSD's liking? This would be for data as opposed to Linux installation. There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject Re: External HD, that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each other's disklabels. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). Tom One other possibility is using UDF on the disk. It's forgotten about but I believe it's more interoperable and unix-compatible than fat32 or the rest. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
nfs server /home not responding
Hi experts, We use NFS to store /home directory for users in our lab. However, we occasionally get blocked from logging in because the automount daemon on a NFS client machine hangs. When that happens, we get this error message on the NFS client machine called bucks in its system logs: Aug 24 10:53:40 bucks kernel: nfs server pid...@bucks:/home: not responding pid670 is the amd process. Our NFS server(raptors) has the following configuration: FreeBSD raptors.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Feb 9 12:59:50 PST 2010 r...@raptors.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAPTORS amd64 And the client machine is configured as: FreeBSD bucks.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Feb 9 20:47:50 UTC 2010 r...@bucks.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUCKS amd64 Another thing I want to add is that several other NFS client machines also hang from time to time. But they don't usually hang at the same time. Even though rebooting can fix the problem once, we don't want it keep hurting us. So any insights or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. Regards, - Lucas___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: nfs server /home not responding
In response to Lucas Wang lw...@us.toyota-itc.com: We use NFS to store /home directory for users in our lab. However, we occasionally get blocked from logging in because the automount daemon on a NFS client machine hangs. When that happens, we get this error message on the NFS client machine called bucks in its system logs: Aug 24 10:53:40 bucks kernel: nfs server pid...@bucks:/home: not responding pid670 is the amd process. Our NFS server(raptors) has the following configuration: FreeBSD raptors.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Feb 9 12:59:50 PST 2010 r...@raptors.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAPTORS amd64 And the client machine is configured as: FreeBSD bucks.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Feb 9 20:47:50 UTC 2010 r...@bucks.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUCKS amd64 Another thing I want to add is that several other NFS client machines also hang from time to time. But they don't usually hang at the same time. Even though rebooting can fix the problem once, we don't want it keep hurting us. So any insights or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. Do you have dumbtimer in the options for the nfs mount? My research into this indicated that the NFS client keeps track of average response times from the server. If the server starts to respond significantly slower than is expected, the code assumes that the server is down and the mount freezes and that message appears in the logs. Usually, after a short wait (a few minutes) the connection resumes and you see a server is alive again message. See man mount_nfs for more info. Also, try switching to TCP mounts. If you have a network that occasionally gets hit with traffic spikes that cause data packets to take abnormally long to travel, or an NFS server that occasionally gets usage spikes that cause it to respond slowly, this will happen. In addition to dumbtimer you can also look at better segmenting your network, or increasing the capacity of the NFS server to prevent the problem. If the NFS hangs occur and the mount never recovers (even after several minutes) then you probably have a different problem. Possibly a firewall is losing the state table and thus the connection is going bad? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 12:29:16 2010 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 From: Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? I think its 100% certain that it is hardware, or software. *GRIN* You can try randomly replacing things, which can be expensive, time- consuming, and not necessarily effective -- how do you *KNOW* that the parts you're putting _IN_ do not, themselves, have (as-yet undiscovered) problems? I'd try to make the box tell me something about *why* it crashed. crank up the level of logging for 'kernel' events in syslog.con, enable crash dumps, and make sure the boot process saves the dump Then you can get into the weird,wonderful, world of 'crash dump' analysis. With a few dumps in hand, you can begin to see if there is any consistency in what the machine was doing -when- it crashed. Happy hunting ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 12:29:16 2010 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 From: Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? I think its 100% certain that it is hardware, or software. *GRIN* You can try randomly replacing things, which can be expensive, time- consuming, and not necessarily effective -- how do you *KNOW* that the parts you're putting _IN_ do not, themselves, have (as-yet undiscovered) problems? I'd try to make the box tell me something about *why* it crashed. crank up the level of logging for 'kernel' events in syslog.con, enable crash dumps, and make sure the boot process saves the dump Then you can get into the weird,wonderful, world of 'crash dump' analysis. With a few dumps in hand, you can begin to see if there is any consistency in what the machine was doing -when- it crashed. Happy hunting When I looked at the regular level kernel log, it seemed to be out of the clear blue. I am an experienced user, but I am not sure if I have the programing skills to look at debug output to find a fault. I might need a bit of hand holding on this one. I looked at backtrace to. I was thinking it was a command or something, but it looks like some debugging procedure. Regards, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
On 24/08/2010 10:58 μ.μ., Chris Maness wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 12:29:16 2010 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 From: Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? I think its 100% certain that it is hardware, or software. *GRIN* You can try randomly replacing things, which can be expensive, time- consuming, and not necessarily effective -- how do you *KNOW* that the parts you're putting _IN_ do not, themselves, have (as-yet undiscovered) problems? I'd try to make the box tell me something about *why* it crashed. crank up the level of logging for 'kernel' events in syslog.con, enable crash dumps, and make sure the boot process saves the dump Then you can get into the weird,wonderful, world of 'crash dump' analysis. With a few dumps in hand, you can begin to see if there is any consistency in what the machine was doing -when- it crashed. Happy hunting When I looked at the regular level kernel log, it seemed to be out of the clear blue. I am an experienced user, but I am not sure if I have the programing skills to look at debug output to find a fault. I might need a bit of hand holding on this one. I looked at backtrace to. I was thinking it was a command or something, but it looks like some debugging procedure. Regards, Chris Maness If the reboot is so abrupt and sudden that nothing is logged (like someone pressing the reset button), it is most probably hardware. As others have said the most usual culprits are RAM and power supply. If you have any spare parts at hand, it may be worth the effort to try with an other power supply. If the reboot happens when the system is stressed (lots of disk activity and/or high power consumption by the CPU, like when portupgrading) the power supply is even more suspect. Bad RAM usually causes error messages and dumps to appear rather than out of the blue reboots. Since it is unlikely that the same program will always be in the faulty area of memory each time, the dumps will not be consistent - will seem to be caused by entirely different apps. It is still worthy to at least take out the RAM modules and clean the contacts before reinstalling. Use rubbing alcohol (a pen eraser is also good for gold plated contacts). Many RAM problems on older systems are definitely caused by dust and corrosion on these contacts. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
When I looked at the regular level kernel log, it seemed to be out of the clear blue. I've seen once behaviour like this on FreeBSD and it was caused by faulty ECC memory comb. Incorrectable CRC error just caused a diagnosis beep sequence and then machine shut down immediately after. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf (using an HP 4050N printer) This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpZfQj1rGqwg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? Regards, Chris Maness Sounds to me like power supply. Is the machine on a UPS? Have you checked out the power leads are properly seated? Have these reboots started to happen after you cleaned it out? Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf (using an HP 4050N printer) This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I'm using CUPS, too, but printing to an HP OfficeJet 7310. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpTrqgGWesfx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
I was thinking that, maybe, it's the PSU itself. Does the fan work? Do you have the ability to get temperatures inside your computer? Get those to poll every minute or so and write to a flat file? -- Ryan On Aug 24, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Frank Shute wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? Regards, Chris Maness Sounds to me like power supply. Is the machine on a UPS? Have you checked out the power leads are properly seated? Have these reboots started to happen after you cleaned it out? Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp7iG4wnA2Ts.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/10 10:29, Chris Maness wrote: I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. What do you guys think? You can try the following ( I believe this is in 8-STABLE ) echo 'hw.mca.enabled=1' /boot/loader.conf and reboot. If it's hardware supported machine check exception, then you may see which component has an issue on the console in the machine check output. - -Mark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx0N74ACgkQrDN5kXnx8yZfSgCeIrd2qXmatERuOhPwW2W6cqY0 FtEAnj3154huE/8aVl5W3zA22YjNw2UL =p002 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Well, if it makes you feel any better, it does the same thing here (truncates top and bottom). Looks like CUPS is addressing the page as if there were no unprintable areas on the page (i.e., it's scaled to fit an 8-1/2 x 11 piece of paper exactly) rather than squeezing it into the printable area. I'm afraid I don't know enough about CUPS to say any more. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpaZXLsEnPNY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf (using an HP 4050N printer) This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:53:09 + Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? I've not tried it recently, but I think UFS (both UFS1 and UFS2 seem to be supported) should work well; since 2.6.29 Linux has supported writing to UFS too; you may need to recompile the kernel to add support for writing depending on how old the kernel is, but http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt;h=7a602adeca2b7399f04b50232c838a9aec305712;hb=HEAD says simply that ufs2 has read-write support. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. I wave chicken bones over it, and it works, mostly. The documentation has always seemed somewhat opaque and incomplete. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpPUxpZz3VAn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. Could you send me the PDF? As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On 24 August 2010 06:53, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? I've been trying NTFS(-3g). It's been going well, with even occasional Windows thrown in the mix. But it is very slow, mostly, I believe, due to being an userspace implementation. And I do keep backups. With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got unsupported inode size when trying to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. I've tested ext2/3 in the past, found it very risky to mix OSs (Linux and FreeBSD only, though). FreeBSD's Ext2 seemed very lacky regarding new FS features. I wouldn't risk it. There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? IMHO NTFS should be better, also, NTFS-3G has an (opensource friendly?) company behind it: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject Re: External HD, that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. I haven't seen recent horror stories about NTFS use on Linux, since the userspace/fuse implementations. Haven't had any problemas myself too. Except for a hiccup: one of the implementations (can't remember which) would semi-silently ignore files/paths for which it couldn't parse the charset, that it, it didn't copy the files/dirs, also didn't error, just spit some mumbling in dmesg (this was on Linux also). So beware of your FS charset. As Joshua Isom mentioned, there's also UDF. But IIRC FreeBSD wasn't able to write on it when I checked. Also slow compared to native FSs (same league or worse than the userspace NTFSs). I'd love to go with UDF, if only it had better support/performance. And don't underestimate your backups. -- (nil) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD?
On 24 August 2010 20:48, Gustavo De Nardin gustav...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2010 06:53, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? I've been trying NTFS(-3g). It's been going well, with even occasional Windows thrown in the mix. But it is very slow, mostly, I believe, due to being an userspace implementation. And I do keep backups. I thought I must correct myself: the problem is not exaclt it being slow, but rather using a lot of CPU. On non fast machines, you may easily be bound by the CPU, not I/O. With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got unsupported inode size when trying to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. I've tested ext2/3 in the past, found it very risky to mix OSs (Linux and FreeBSD only, though). FreeBSD's Ext2 seemed very lacky regarding new FS features. I wouldn't risk it. There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? IMHO NTFS should be better, also, NTFS-3G has an (opensource friendly?) company behind it: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject Re: External HD, that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. I haven't seen recent horror stories about NTFS use on Linux, since the userspace/fuse implementations. Haven't had any problemas myself too. Except for a hiccup: one of the implementations (can't remember which) would semi-silently ignore files/paths for which it couldn't parse the charset, that it, it didn't copy the files/dirs, also didn't error, just spit some mumbling in dmesg (this was on Linux also). So beware of your FS charset. As Joshua Isom mentioned, there's also UDF. But IIRC FreeBSD wasn't able to write on it when I checked. Also slow compared to native FSs (same league or worse than the userspace NTFSs). I'd love to go with UDF, if only it had better support/performance. And don't underestimate your backups. -- (nil) -- (nil) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. Could you send me the PDF? As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpuR7J1L3O1S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: 12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: 12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to restart something to get that to take effect? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpjbqJtl7oWD.pgp Description: PGP signature
