Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CD Boot to install hangs
On Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:18 -0700, Alexander Lardner linuxtu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am re-asking as it's rather urgent. I have burned a CD of PowerPC 8.2 to install on my old iMac G3. It boots, but it stops at the line that reads: acd0: DVDROM MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8184/AA32 at ata0-slave UDMA33 What the heck does that mean, and why does it get stuck? This line is the kernel message identifying the optical drive of your iMac, which is connected to the 1st ATA controller as slave drive (and I assume the master drive will be the hard disk, watch for ad0 message). More importantly, how do I fix it? I'm not sure, I sadly don't own iHardware. Maybe check cables of optical drive? At least the kernel boots - that's good for the beginning. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: VIMAGE in fbsd 9.0
On 5/15/2011 7:49 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: What is the current status of VIMAGE in Freebsd 9.0? I *think* all VIMAGE related code in 9.0 has been merged to 8-STABLE. It is still tagged experimental. Most things work. Is there something that doesn't work for you? Is VIMAGE going to be included in the basic 9.0 release as part of the default kernel? Speaking unofficially, VIMAGE will not be in the GENERIC kernel for 9.0-RELEASE. It will be tagged stable first, remain an optional feature for some time and then I think there is the possibility of appearing in the GENERIC kernel. I believe that's not going to happen soon, if ever. Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
adding new disk 2TB, gpt?
I have a running FreeBSD-8.2-amd system, FreeBSD was installed in jan 2009 (then FreeBSD 7.0), which a fisk disk of 200 GB for /, swap /usr /var /tmp. Later that month, I added a 9 TB disk using /sbin/gpt (since sysinstall uses bsdlabel/fdisk, it can't create disks larger than 2 TB) I want to add an extra 2TB disk... and thought to use gpt again as I did in the past .. The FreeBSD book (in its 2011 version), section 18.3 still refers to using gpt for disks 2TB but the link gpt(8) leads to nowhere and /sbin/gpt no longer exists in FreeBSD ! There seem to be two alternatives: 1) /sbin/gpart, of which the man page is quite similar to what gpt used to be, but tells me it is ''for disk partitoning GEOM class, whereas gpt man pages (in 2009) said: gpt - GUID partition table maintenance utility. 2) a port sysutils/gdisk of which the Long Description says: Edit GUID partition table (GPT) definitions in Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X or Windows but its web site shows a completely different command line interface, not resembling the old gpt at all.. What is exactly that difference between GEOM and GUID ? I'd like to have things as similar as possible .. Can I use /sbin/gpart for the extra 9 GB disk ? or do I have to stick with GUID and use gdisk ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. --As for the rest, it is mine. Sure it is: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal make deinstall It will list what ports require it. ;) Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CD Boot to install hangs
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 17:28:18 -0700, Alexander Lardner linuxtu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am re-asking as it's rather urgent. I have burned a CD of PowerPC 8.2 to install on my old iMac G3. It boots, but it stops at the line that reads: acd0: DVDROM MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8184/AA32 at ata0-slave UDMA33 What the heck does that mean, and why does it get stuck? This line is the kernel message identifying the optical drive of your iMac, which is connected to the 1st ATA controller as slave drive (and I assume the master drive will be the hard disk, watch for ad0 message). More importantly, how do I fix it? I'm not sure, I sadly don't own iHardware. Maybe check cables of optical drive? It could be the next step that is a problem, whatever comes after the CD device detection on a G3. On i386, that includes launching other processors and USB device detection. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. --As for the rest, it is mine. Sure it is: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal make deinstall It will list what ports require it. ;) pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling it. But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on something else that depends on hal. It would be nice to easily find the root few. xorg-server can be set to not use hal. Then rebuild the keyboard, mouse, and video drivers. One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
Quoth Daniel Staal on Monday, 16 May 2011: --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. --As for the rest, it is mine. Sure it is: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal make deinstall It will list what ports require it. ;) Daniel T. Staal A less destructive way to get the same info is pkg_info -R hal-0.5.14_13 and 'portversion -v hal' can be used to get the specific version installed. After some more investigation, it appears that gnome-mount is the culprit. I'm looking into how to exclude that from the consumer apps. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpf42G1aPwb2.pgp Description: PGP signature
GL811e usb chipset
Hi, does anyone know if the GL811e chipset is supported in 8.2R? It's supposed to be common in external usb hard disk and optical disk drives. It's not mentioned in the hardware notes and google didn't turn up much. thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. Also see ports-mgmt/pkg_tree pkg_tree -v is quite useful. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to find out which one it is. --As for the rest, it is mine. Sure it is: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal make deinstall It will list what ports require it. ;) pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling it. But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on something else that depends on hal. It would be nice to easily find the root few. xorg-server can be set to not use hal. Then rebuild the keyboard, mouse, and video drivers. One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgp4tuGXDKNgZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Slightly OT: Hardware For FreeNAS
Slightly OT, but since it's based on FreeBSD, I thought I'd start here... Can anyone recommend a good hardware platform (components) around which to build a FreeNAS server? The important non-functional requirements are: 1) Quiet to the point of silent. 2) Reliable/redundant TIA, -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. That's what I did assume. Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? Let's see: Gimp - Krita (KDE) or InkScape? Gnumeric - KOffice (if you're already on KDE), OpenOffice, LibreOffice, StarOffice (or add any other possible *Office to the mix). And dia... I have to admit that I don't know what this is. :-) Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media, and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such functionality via make config for the gnome-mount port, MAYBE there is a chance to avoid HAL in this specific case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media, and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such functionality via make config for the gnome-mount port, MAYBE there is a chance to avoid HAL in this specific case. gnome-mount is specifically for hal. OTOH, the Linux guys have been working on removing hal, and gvfs has a promising --disable-hal option I'm testing now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: adding new disk 2TB, gpt?
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM, n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com wrote: I have a running FreeBSD-8.2-amd system, FreeBSD was installed in jan 2009 (then FreeBSD 7.0), which a fisk disk of 200 GB for /, swap /usr /var /tmp. Later that month, I added a 9 TB disk using /sbin/gpt (since sysinstall uses bsdlabel/fdisk, it can't create disks larger than 2 TB) I want to add an extra 2TB disk... and thought to use gpt again as I did in the past .. The FreeBSD book (in its 2011 version), section 18.3 still refers to using gpt for disks 2TB but the link gpt(8) leads to nowhere and /sbin/gpt no longer exists in FreeBSD ! There seem to be two alternatives: 1) /sbin/gpart, of which the man page is quite similar to what gpt used to be, but tells me it is ''for disk partitoning GEOM class, whereas gpt man pages (in 2009) said: gpt - GUID partition table maintenance utility. 2) a port sysutils/gdisk of which the Long Description says: Edit GUID partition table (GPT) definitions in Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X or Windows but its web site shows a completely different command line interface, not resembling the old gpt at all.. What is exactly that difference between GEOM and GUID ? I'd like to have things as similar as possible .. Can I use /sbin/gpart for the extra 9 GB disk ? or do I have to stick with GUID and use gdisk ? gpart create -s gpt ad0 is the command you want to use. Just replace ad0 with your device node. Also, gpart show will give a list of slices and partitions. You will then want to do: gpart add -s size -t type ad0 The size and type syntax are in the gpart man page. If you want it bootable you will need a small partition at the beginning of the disk: gpart add -s 128k -t freebsd-boot ad0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad0 You may adjust the size to shrink it to exactly fit the files, but I think if you're working in TBs you can spare a few wasted k. I submitted a PR to get the handbook updated to reflect gpart(8). Cheers, Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has some, err, quirks, but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is occasionally a bit glitchy, though. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpB61va1wts8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has some, err, quirks, but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is occasionally a bit glitchy, though. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Thanks, I'll take a look at it! -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpm495pJxv5U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia, generally, but an alternative to GIMP is Cinepaint. I don't *think* it requires libgnomeui. It has some, err, quirks, but they're trade-offs rather than pure negatives, because Cinepaint does a number of things better than the GIMP. Among the things it does better are start and operate quickly; where the GIMP often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is occasionally a bit glitchy, though. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternative. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgphgMl5hh0ad.pgp Description: PGP signature
Input file for shutdown warning?
Hello, Is it possible to do something like this: shutdown -p now /root/somefile How would I do that, or is it even possible? Thanks, Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Input file for shutdown warning?
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 Alexander Lardner linuxtu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Is it possible to do something like this: shutdown -p now /root/somefile How would I do that, or is it even possible? According to the man page it is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Input file for shutdown warning?
On 17 May 2011 01:24:56 - John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: In article 20110517021633.26b47...@gumby.homeunix.com you write: On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 Alexander Lardner linuxtu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Is it possible to do something like this: shutdown -p now /root/somefile # shutdown - -p now /root/somefile shutdown -p now - /root/somefile ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Input file for shutdown warning?
In article 20110517021633.26b47...@gumby.homeunix.com you write: On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700 Alexander Lardner linuxtu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Is it possible to do something like this: shutdown -p now /root/somefile # shutdown - -p now /root/somefile If you had read the man page, you would already know that. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote: Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece. I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that would be a HAL-free alternative. I just submitted ports/157096 with a patch to build gvfs without HAL support: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=157096 Very lightly tested, but no problems so far. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
