gpt booting (Was: Re: boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3)
On 11/21/12 05:11, Warren Block wrote: gptboot looks for the first UFS partition. Maybe /boot/boot can be modified to do that also. It's a little more complicated than that Warren. AIUI gptboot first looks (in partition order) for partitions with both the bootme and bootonce attributes set. If it doesn't find any, or if they all failed to boot it then tries booting partitions with just the bootme attribute. It only boots the first UFS partition if no partitions have the bootme attribute set, and IIRC that is for compatibility with the 8.x gptboot which didn't know the boot* attributes. Confusingly, there's no manual page for gptboot to document this. It's sort of implicit in the gpart manual page, in the section on ATTRIBUTES for GPT, but the best way to understand it is to read the code for gptfind in /usr/src/sys/boot/common/gpt.c ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:42:37 + (UTC), jb wrote: Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. Yes, it is a keyword, a keyword parameter that tells CLI command what to do (yes, a keyword that may be taken verbatim or translated into an internal command parameter(s), a keyword that represents an action). But, it is not a command, or parameter of type command. I think Robert is right (which implies that you are wrong), at least in acknowledging the _possibility_ to interpret _certain_ command line arguments as commands to the program (where a program can do various actions), in opposite to a modifier (which changes the way the one action a program performs in a certain way). NB: Modifier term borrowed from VMS here. :-) Examples: $ ls -la Here the ls program will change its default behaviour and list all stuff in long format. $ portsnap fetch extract Here the portsnap program will first fetch new ports (1st command) and then extract it (2nd command). However, I agree that this is primarily about _interpretation_ of the word command, and especially when the consideration command line option can be command to program is taken. This especially applies when a program can perform actions which are fundamentally different (fetch != extract) in opposite to just modifying the same operation (list files: how?). Note that command line arguments can also contain associations. A famous example is dd. In other programs, like cp or mv, the position of the command line argument decides about its inter- pretation (which is source, which is destination). With regard to definition of a command as we practice and argue about here: In general (see bash(1), SHELL GRAMMAR, Simple Commands), a command is an executable preceded by optional vars and followed by optional parameters. You lie. A command does not have to have the attributes of a command-line invocation. Well, a second nature ... But, it is an honor :-) At least those are entertaining lies. :-) To drive the point: let's assume that it is a valid syntax to pass a parameter like this: ls -al or much better, command=command, like this: command=ls -al then it would be clear that a command (parameter) is passed to CLI command. This kind of command parameter passing fulfilles the definition of a command as referenced. This is a fully valid interpretation, especially from the shell's point of view. But also consider programs that drive their own CLI. One of them is mail. It presents a prompt and expects you to enter a command. It will not system() that command, but act according to it. If you are familiar with C function system(), you will have easier time to understand: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstdlib/system/ The prototype is: int system ( const char * command ); According to man 3 system, it is int system(const char *string); with the following description: The system() function hands the argument string to the command interpreter sh(1). The calling process waits for the shell to finish executing the command, ignoring SIGINT and SIGQUIT, and blocking SIGCHLD. If string is a NULL pointer, system() will return non-zero if the command interpreter sh(1) is available, and zero if it is not. Again, we get new terminology: argument. The string in question is actually considered a command in the first meaning mentioned. And again, there's nothing wrong in interpreting _parts_ of that string to be commands to the program actually called. The command ls -al (yes, it is a command as referenced) is a parameter to system() function: system(ls -al); Ah, a parameter! Not a functional argument? :-) I'm not even sure where to draw the line. A definition I've heared at university is this: The const char *string is the parameter, and ls -la is the argument... or was it vice versa? One describes the abstract form (in the function prototype), and the other one describes the actual content... It just says, execute that command ls -al in the existing execution environment. Nothing wrong here. The reason I go so by the book about it is that words have meaning and definitions :-) Depending on _what_ book you read, things may change. :-) For example, consider an IBM mainframe manual for standard programs. They acquire a control file, typically inside the job stream, and it contains _what_? Commands! It's not that those commands cause any program to launch; instead, they instruct a versatile program in what to do (e. g. IEHDASDR if it should DUMP or RESTORE, because it can do both and more; still only _one_ program is called). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi
Re: portsnap
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: ... Yes, it is a keyword, a keyword parameter that tells CLI command what to do (yes, a keyword that may be taken verbatim or translated into an internal command parameter(s), a keyword that represents an action). But, it is not a command, or parameter of type command. I think Robert is right (which implies that you are wrong), at least in acknowledging the _possibility_ to interpret _certain_ command line arguments as commands to the program (where a program can do various actions), in opposite to a modifier (which changes the way the one action a program performs in a certain way). ... Putting aside the linguistics about executable command, entry, function, parameter, and argument - let's reduce the case to one common ground, so we can compare them. The are two entities, each having in their description as receiving a command as a parameter, namely: - portsnap ... command ... e.g. portsnap fetch - system(command); e.g. system(ls -al); The former is passed an action keyword as an argument (I like the word keyword; we could use command keyword as perhaps even a better fit and the closest to describe the nature of it). The latter is passed a command as an argument. So, the manual for portsnap(8) is imprecise, actually unfortunate because misleading. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Bind99 stopped resolving for external queries
Hi all I'm running a FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE based server. It used to work fine. But suddenly about 2 days ago stopped resolving DNS for external queries. From my laptop if I ping the server: ping www.mydoamin.com ping: cannot resolve www.mydoamin.com: Host name lookup failure But if I log in to the server and do the same ping, it works fine. As a fix, I have upgraded the Bind99 to the latest bind99-base-9.9.2, but it did not fix the issue. I don't see anything changed in my DNS server setup. Appreciate very much if any help could be extended in this regard to understand what went wrong in the server. Many thanks in advance. Best regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bind99 stopped resolving for external queries
Hello, From my laptop if I ping the server: ping www.mydoamin.com ping: cannot resolve www.mydoamin.com: Host name lookup failure But if I log in to the server and do the same ping, it works fine. 1) check your laptop is configured to work with this DNS server (cat /etc/resolv.conf on laptop or ipconfig /all | findstr DNS in case of windows ) 2) check server is accessible (ping YOUR_SERVER_IP from laptop) 3) check server is accessible via TCP/53 (telnet YOUR_SERVER_IP 53 from your laptop) 4) check firewall on server and/or devices between server and laptop, it may block requests 5) check your server is configured to use the same DNS: cat /etc/resolv.conf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Drill Pipes offer dated 21st Nov 2012!
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PAM auto Login
hi everyone, hope it to be a simple question.. is there a way to let one of PAM modules to just escape its authentication phase and have something like template_user so it uses that user's home configs and don't ask for user passwords or so? i tried pam_permit.so in sufficient mode but don't know why it does not work as required... and i don't know which entry to put after that line, so the sufficient entry won't become the last chain entry.. (cause in manuals, they said, if a sufficient entry becomes the last line, it will show abnormal behaviour when not matched or so!..) besides, it still asks for a username.. how can i just define such , somehow, default user for a pam module, like telnetd for example? need to mention that i don't want to disable other phases, if possible. Really really appriciate any ideas or suggestions :) Regards, takCoder ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
filesystem size does not equal free space
Hi All, I install FreeBSD 8.3-R on a DL360 G8 with two disk volumes, the 2nd of which is 3TB. The fdisk partition editor shows the disk geometry as 812160 cyl/255 heads/32 sectors = 6627225600 sectors (3235950MB). sysinstall creates a slice on the 3TB volume that uses the entire disk. However, when the filesystem is labelled and mounted, it is slightly over 1TB in size. Am I correct in assuming that it's only 1TB because the disk geometry is greater than what is supported by sysinstall and/or bsdlabel? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: filesystem size does not equal free space
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Rick Miller wrote: I install FreeBSD 8.3-R on a DL360 G8 with two disk volumes, the 2nd of which is 3TB. The fdisk partition editor shows the disk geometry as 812160 cyl/255 heads/32 sectors = 6627225600 sectors (3235950MB). sysinstall creates a slice on the 3TB volume that uses the entire disk. However, when the filesystem is labelled and mounted, it is slightly over 1TB in size. Am I correct in assuming that it's only 1TB because the disk geometry is greater than what is supported by sysinstall and/or bsdlabel? It's an MBR limitation, I think. Use GPT, which will also make alignment to 4K blocks easier. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bind99 stopped resolving for external queries
Hi IIya Thank you for your reply. Hello, From my laptop if I ping the server: ping www.mydoamin.com ping: cannot resolve www.mydoamin.com: Host name lookup failure But if I log in to the server and do the same ping, it works fine. 1) check your laptop is configured to work with this DNS server (cat /etc/resolv.conf on laptop or ipconfig /all | findstr DNS in case of windows ) My laptop and the server are in two different countries. Btw, laptop also run FreeBSD. 2) check server is accessible (ping YOUR_SERVER_IP from laptop) Yes, the server is accessible (ping YOUR_SERVER_IP from the laptop. 3) check server is accessible via TCP/53 (telnet YOUR_SERVER_IP 53 from your laptop) No, there was a reverse DNS error here. It was pointing to the Reverse DNS server of the data centre. Now its been corrected: telnet YOUR_SERVER_IP 53 Trying YOUR_SERVER_IP... Connected to ns1.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 4) check firewall on server and/or devices between server and laptop, it may block requests No firewall on the server yet. 5) check your server is configured to use the same DNS: cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver other_ip1 nameserver other_ip2 Although the Reverse DNS is now been corrected, still cannot ping as from the laptop: ping www.mydomain.com ping: cannot resolve www.mydomain.com: Host name lookup failure Any ideas? Regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
csup to svn
I use packages for all my ports. But some times I have to use ports make files because I need to change the default configuration. I use a custom csup script to just download the desired single port. Since the CVSup/Csup service is being phased out as of February 28, 2013, How can I duplicate this function using svn? Following is a sample csup script I use to download a single port. #! /bin/sh # This script is used to download make files for ytree port. # Load script symbolic field with path file name cvsupfile=/root/temp.work.file # Check to see if file exists delete it if it does [ -e $cvsupfile ] rm -f $cvsupfile # Load instream data to file cat $cvsupfile EOD *default base=/usr# create CVSup tree off /usr directory *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix# no compression, for DSL or t1 lines *default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org # Virginia *default tag=. # set tag value to nulls to get most current version ports-misc EOD # Exec csup to download just the selected port make files cd /usr/ports/ csup -g -L 2 -i ports/misc/ytree $cvsupfile # Delete file we are done with it rm -f $cvsupfile echo Ytree port download completed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:10:28 -0500 From: Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com I use packages for all my ports. But some times I have to use ports make files because I need to change the default configuration. I use a custom csup script to just download the desired single port. Since the CVSup/Csup service is being phased out as of February 28, 2013, How can I duplicate this function using svn? Following is a sample csup script I use to download a single port. #! /bin/sh # This script is used to download make files for ytree port. # Load script symbolic field with path file name cvsupfile=/root/temp.work.file # Check to see if file exists delete it if it does [ -e $cvsupfile ] rm -f $cvsupfile # Load instream data to file cat $cvsupfile EOD *default base=/usr# create CVSup tree off /usr directory *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix# no compression, for DSL or t1 lines *default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org # Virginia *default tag=. # set tag value to nulls to get most current version ports-misc EOD # Exec csup to download just the selected port make files cd /usr/ports/ csup -g -L 2 -i ports/misc/ytree $cvsupfile # Delete file we are done with it rm -f $cvsupfile echo Ytree port download completed. I would do: # cd /usr/ports # svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/ . This will populate your ports tree. Then, you can update anything and everything, e.g. the whole ports tree: # svn up /usr/ports or just a single port: # svn up /usr/ports/misc/ytree I think it's way simpler than your current method. In my opinion, svn is way better (at least in this regard) than csup. Other useful thing that is easy with svn is reverting port updates, e.g. when new ports don't build or give other problems. For example, right now the latest sudo doesn't work for me on ia64. So I do # svn up /usr/ports # svn up -r302692 /usr/ports/security/sudo to build an older working version of sudo. Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Home Server
Hi all, I am looking to re purpose an old system for use as a home server. My intentions for the server are as follows: Central backup of other systems. Storage for Media files(movies/music) Occasionally transcoding DVDs/blurays As well as being able to access the backed up files(at least part of them) over http(s). My question(s) regard storage. Depending on which case I end up using or if i purchase a new one, will have access to either 4(four) or 6(six) hard drive bays. The only things I really *need* redundancy for would be the centralized backups. Which has me leaning towards zfs. However since I'll probably want to use some of the space from the drives in that pool, but won't need redundancy I'm not quite sure how to proceed. I'm sorry if any of this message is unclear. Thanks for any assistence Nick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Home Server
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:52:12 -0600 Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote: My question(s) regard storage. Depending on which case I end up using or if i purchase a new one, will have access to either 4(four) or 6(six) hard drive bays. The only things I really *need* redundancy for would be the centralized backups. Which has me leaning towards zfs. However since I'll probably want to use some of the space from the drives in that pool, but won't need redundancy I'm not quite sure how to proceed. With that many drive bays, and the low cost of disc space I'd go for a big ZFS mirror for storage and put just about everything on it. You might have some data that doesn't need to be mirrored but I'll bet there's not much that wouldn't be a PITA to lose. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Home Server
On 21/11/2012 17:02, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:52:12 -0600 Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote: My question(s) regard storage. Depending on which case I end up using or if i purchase a new one, will have access to either 4(four) or 6(six) hard drive bays. The only things I really *need* redundancy for would be the centralized backups. Which has me leaning towards zfs. However since I'll probably want to use some of the space from the drives in that pool, but won't need redundancy I'm not quite sure how to proceed. With that many drive bays, and the low cost of disc space I'd go for a big ZFS mirror for storage and put just about everything on it. You might have some data that doesn't need to be mirrored but I'll bet there's not much that wouldn't be a PITA to lose. Consider using a RAIDZ rather than a Mirror VDev -- you trade off essentially low-latency access for small IOs against more available disk space. 4 drives is OK, but kinda small for a RAIDZ; 6 drives is pretty much right in the sweet spot. I'd also counsel against trying to use traditional filesystems and ZFS in different partitions of the same drive. ZFS is happiest when it has complete control of the drive. You can take a chunk of the drive for boot code no problem, and using a chunk for swap seems to work pretty well too. In fact, if you're going to use ZFS at all, I'd suggest using it for all your filesystems on that machine. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:10:28 -0500 From: Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com I use packages for all my ports. But some times I have to use ports make files because I need to change the default configuration. I use a custom csup script to just download the desired single port. Since the CVSup/Csup service is being phased out as of February 28, 2013, How can I duplicate this function using svn? Following is a sample csup script I use to download a single port. #! /bin/sh # This script is used to download make files for ytree port. # Load script symbolic field with path file name cvsupfile=/root/temp.work.file # Check to see if file exists delete it if it does [ -e $cvsupfile ] rm -f $cvsupfile # Load instream data to file cat $cvsupfile EOD *default base=/usr# create CVSup tree off /usr directory *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix# no compression, for DSL or t1 lines *default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org # Virginia *default tag=. # set tag value to nulls to get most current version ports-misc EOD # Exec csup to download just the selected port make files cd /usr/ports/ csup -g -L 2 -i ports/misc/ytree $cvsupfile # Delete file we are done with it rm -f $cvsupfile echo Ytree port download completed. I would do: # cd /usr/ports # svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/ . This will populate your ports tree. Then, you can update anything and everything, e.g. the whole ports tree: # svn up /usr/ports or just a single port: # svn up /usr/ports/misc/ytree I think it's way simpler than your current method. In my opinion, svn is way better (at least in this regard) than csup. Other useful thing that is easy with svn is reverting port updates, e.g. when new ports don't build or give other problems. For example, right now the latest sudo doesn't work for me on ia64. So I do # svn up /usr/ports # svn up -r302692 /usr/ports/security/sudo to build an older working version of sudo. Anton You missed to whole point of my question. I don't want to maintain the WHOLE ports tree. I only want to download selected single port. My current ports tree only has 2 ports, apache22 and php5. So your reply did not answer my question. Thanks any how. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
--On November 21, 2012 11:10:28 AM -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: I use packages for all my ports. But some times I have to use ports make files because I need to change the default configuration. I use a custom csup script to just download the desired single port. Since the CVSup/Csup service is being phased out as of February 28, 2013, How can I duplicate this function using svn? cd /usr/ports/category svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/category/port -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
From fb...@a1poweruser.com Wed Nov 21 17:57:51 2012 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:10:28 -0500 From: Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com I use packages for all my ports. But some times I have to use ports make files because I need to change the default configuration. I use a custom csup script to just download the desired single port. Since the CVSup/Csup service is being phased out as of February 28, 2013, How can I duplicate this function using svn? Following is a sample csup script I use to download a single port. #! /bin/sh # This script is used to download make files for ytree port. # Load script symbolic field with path file name cvsupfile=/root/temp.work.file # Check to see if file exists delete it if it does [ -e $cvsupfile ] rm -f $cvsupfile # Load instream data to file cat $cvsupfile EOD *default base=/usr# create CVSup tree off /usr directory *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix# no compression, for DSL or t1 lines *default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org # Virginia *default tag=. # set tag value to nulls to get most current version ports-misc EOD # Exec csup to download just the selected port make files cd /usr/ports/ csup -g -L 2 -i ports/misc/ytree $cvsupfile # Delete file we are done with it rm -f $cvsupfile echo Ytree port download completed. I would do: # cd /usr/ports # svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/ . This will populate your ports tree. Then, you can update anything and everything, e.g. the whole ports tree: # svn up /usr/ports or just a single port: # svn up /usr/ports/misc/ytree I think it's way simpler than your current method. In my opinion, svn is way better (at least in this regard) than csup. Other useful thing that is easy with svn is reverting port updates, e.g. when new ports don't build or give other problems. For example, right now the latest sudo doesn't work for me on ia64. So I do # svn up /usr/ports # svn up -r302692 /usr/ports/security/sudo to build an older working version of sudo. Anton You missed to whole point of my question. I don't want to maintain the WHOLE ports tree. I only want to download selected single port. My current ports tree only has 2 ports, apache22 and php5. So your reply did not answer my question. Thanks any how. # mkdir apache22 # cd apache22/ # svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/www/apache22 . Adistinfo Apkg-descr AMakefile.doc Afiles Afiles/patch-Makefile.in Afiles/patch-support__apachectl.in Afiles/mpm-itk-20110321-01 Afiles/patch-configure.in Afiles/patch-docs__conf__httpd.conf.in Afiles/patch-docs__conf__extra__httpd-ssl.conf.in Afiles/apache22.in Afiles/no-accf.conf Afiles/patch-support__ab.c Afiles/patch-server__core.c Afiles/patch-modules__proxy__mod_proxy_connect.c Afiles/patch-docs__conf__extra__httpd-userdir.conf.in Afiles/extra-patch-suexec_rsrclimit Afiles/patch-support__log_server_status.in Afiles/extra-patch-suexec_userdir Afiles/htcacheclean.in Afiles/patch-server__config.c Afiles/patch-support__apxs.in Afiles/mpm-itk-perdir-regex Afiles/patch-support__envvars-std.in Afiles/patch-support__Makefile.in Afiles/mpm-itk-limits Afiles/patch-config.layout Apkg-message AMakefile.modules AMakefile.options Apkg-plist AMakefile Checked out revision 307619. # ls .svnMakefile.modulesfiles pkg-plist MakefileMakefile.optionspkg-descr Makefile.docdistinfopkg-message # Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:52:14 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: You missed to whole point of my question. I don't want to maintain the WHOLE ports tree. I only want to download selected single port. My current ports tree only has 2 ports, apache22 and php5. So your reply did not answer my question. Thanks any how. This works svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/www/apache22 . If you do it in /usr/ports/www/apache22 then the port winds up in a sane place. Once you have it you can do svn up in /usr/ports/www/apache22 to update it. This will probably become intolerably clumsy for more than a handful of ports. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bind99 stopped resolving for external queries [SOLVED]
From: Unga unga...@yahoo.com To: Ilya Kazakevich kazakevichi...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Bind99 stopped resolving for external queries Hi IIya Thank you for your reply. Hello, From my laptop if I ping the server: ping www.mydoamin.com ping: cannot resolve www.mydoamin.com: Host name lookup failure But if I log in to the server and do the same ping, it works fine. 1) check your laptop is configured to work with this DNS server (cat /etc/resolv.conf on laptop or ipconfig /all | findstr DNS in case of windows ) My laptop and the server are in two different countries. Btw, laptop also run FreeBSD. 2) check server is accessible (ping YOUR_SERVER_IP from laptop) Yes, the server is accessible (ping YOUR_SERVER_IP from the laptop. 3) check server is accessible via TCP/53 (telnet YOUR_SERVER_IP 53 from your laptop) No, there was a reverse DNS error here. It was pointing to the Reverse DNS server of the data centre. Now its been corrected: telnet YOUR_SERVER_IP 53 Trying YOUR_SERVER_IP... Connected to ns1.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 4) check firewall on server and/or devices between server and laptop, it may block requests No firewall on the server yet. 5) check your server is configured to use the same DNS: cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver other_ip1 nameserver other_ip2 Although the Reverse DNS is now been corrected, still cannot ping as from the laptop: ping www.mydomain.com ping: cannot resolve www.mydomain.com: Host name lookup failure Any ideas? Regards Unga Hi all Found the problem. The domain name was expired 2 days ago. That was the last thing I expected :) Best regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
--On November 21, 2012 6:04:00 PM + Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:52:14 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: You missed to whole point of my question. I don't want to maintain the WHOLE ports tree. I only want to download selected single port. My current ports tree only has 2 ports, apache22 and php5. So your reply did not answer my question. Thanks any how. This works svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/www/apache22 . If you do it in /usr/ports/www/apache22 then the port winds up in a sane place. No! This will create an apache22 port in /usr/ports/www/apache22/apache22! You want to checkout the port while you're in the category directory. IOW, cd /usr/ports/www svn co blah blah blah If you want to do a category, cd /usr/ports/ svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/www Once you have it you can do svn up in /usr/ports/www/apache22 to update it. This will probably become intolerably clumsy for more than a handful of ports. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gpt booting (Was: Re: boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3)
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/21/12 05:11, Warren Block wrote: gptboot looks for the first UFS partition. Maybe /boot/boot can be modified to do that also. It's a little more complicated than that Warren. AIUI gptboot first looks (in partition order) for partitions with both the bootme and bootonce attributes set. If it doesn't find any, or if they all failed to boot it then tries booting partitions with just the bootme attribute. It only boots the first UFS partition if no partitions have the bootme attribute set, and IIRC that is for compatibility with the 8.x gptboot which didn't know the boot* attributes. Confusingly, there's no manual page for gptboot to document this. It's sort of implicit in the gpart manual page, in the section on ATTRIBUTES for GPT, but the best way to understand it is to read the code for gptfind in /usr/src/sys/boot/common/gpt.c Well, yes. The point is that gptboot doesn't just assume that p2, say, is where the bootable UFS partition must be. I've also noted the lack of a gptboot man page, and it's on my long list of Things That Should Be Done. There was a thread on -doc: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2012-June/020060.html Help would be greatly appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:43:30 + (UTC) So, the manual for portsnap(8) is imprecise, actually unfortunate because misleading. The manual/ manpage for portsnap(8) and its use of 'command' is precise *and* entirely consistant with roughly 40(!!) years of Unix documentation history. (see, for instance, the 'mt' manpage, which existed before 6th Edition Unix.) And, of course, if one follows/accepts jb's reasoning, that which follows the '-c' parameter on a shell invocation is not a command. nor is that which follows '-exec' on a 'find' invocation. nor is that which follows the 'exec' command. ` *snicker* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
valgrind on pure amd64 (64 bit system _only_)
What's state of valgrind port on pure amd64 system? Here, it core dumps upon linking both with clang and gcc47, with complaint that looks suspicious (expected i386 not X86_64 or something to that effect). -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/valgrind-on-pure-amd64-64-bit-system-only-tp5762993.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes:
From: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com
Subject: Re: portsnap
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:43:30 + (UTC)
So, the manual for portsnap(8) is imprecise, actually unfortunate because
misleading.
The manual/ manpage for portsnap(8) and its use of 'command' is precise
*and* entirely consistant with roughly 40(!!) years of Unix documentation
history. (see, for instance, the 'mt' manpage, which existed before
6th Edition Unix.)
And, of course, if one follows/accepts jb's reasoning, that which follows
the '-c' parameter on a shell invocation is not a command.
nor is that which follows '-exec' on a 'find' invocation.
nor is that which follows the 'exec' command.
`
*snicker*
How come ?
According to sh(1):
sh ... -c string ...
The -c option causes the commands to be read from the string operand.
Example:
- non-executable string argument
$ sh -c test1
test1: not found
- executable string argument, thus a command
$ sh -c echo test1
test1
According to find(1):
find ... expression ...
The expression is composed of primaries and operands:
-exec utility [argument ...] ;
True if the program named utility returns a zero value as its
exit status. Optional arguments may be passed to the utility.
-exec utility [argument ...] {} +
Well, that utility represents a program, thus a command.
Example:
- non-executable utility
$ find . -type f -exec fakeutility {} \;
find: fakeutility: No such file or directory
...
OMG ! CAN YOU SEE THIS ?!
- executable utility
$ find . -type f -exec echo {} \;
./.cshrc
...
According to bash(1):
$ type exec
exec is a shell builtin
$ help exec
exec: exec ... command [arguments ...] ...
Replace the shell with the given command.
Example:
- non-executable string (non-command)
$ exec fakecommand
bash: exec: fakecommand: not found
- executable string (command)
$ exec touch test-exec.file
$ ls -al test*
-rw-r--r-- 1 jb jb 0 Nov 21 22:37 test-exec.file
The examples you gave are about executable commands by themselves, and that's
what their documentations (man pages) truthfully state.
No Mickey Mouse here.
This is not the same what portsnap(8) does:
portsnap ... command ...
This command word is non-executable by itself; it has a meaning only as
a special word passed to portsnap command to tell it what to do internally,
just a kind of special indicator to be used for conditional processing:
if arg=fetch then do-fetch-routine
else if arg=update then do-update-routine
else
Well, being a liar is an honorable trait :-)
jb
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Re: csup to svn
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On November 21, 2012 6:04:00 PM + Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:52:14 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: You missed to whole point of my question. I don't want to maintain the WHOLE ports tree. I only want to download selected single port. My current ports tree only has 2 ports, apache22 and php5. So your reply did not answer my question. Thanks any how. This works svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/www/apache22 . If you do it in /usr/ports/www/apache22 then the port winds up in a sane place. No! This will create an apache22 port in /usr/ports/www/apache22/apache22! You want to checkout the port while you're in the category directory. IOW, cd /usr/ports/www svn co blah blah blah If you want to do a category, cd /usr/ports/ svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/www Once you have it you can do svn up in /usr/ports/www/apache22 to update it. This will probably become intolerably clumsy for more than a handful of ports. Yeap thats the ticket. I tested this and it works also svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/misc/ytree /usr/ports/misc/ytree Don't have to change into target directory. Another question csup has category called base that checkouts all the pieces parts making up the ports make environment. svn has no category called base What is base called in svn category? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
--On November 21, 2012 5:49:07 PM -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: --On November 21, 2012 6:04:00 PM + Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:52:14 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: You missed to whole point of my question. I don't want to maintain the WHOLE ports tree. I only want to download selected single port. My current ports tree only has 2 ports, apache22 and php5. So your reply did not answer my question. Thanks any how. This works svn co svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head/www/apache22 . If you do it in /usr/ports/www/apache22 then the port winds up in a sane place. No! This will create an apache22 port in /usr/ports/www/apache22/apache22! You want to checkout the port while you're in the category directory. IOW, cd /usr/ports/www svn co blah blah blah If you want to do a category, cd /usr/ports/ svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/www Once you have it you can do svn up in /usr/ports/www/apache22 to update it. This will probably become intolerably clumsy for more than a handful of ports. Yeap thats the ticket. I tested this and it works also svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/misc/ytree /usr/ports/misc/ytree Don't have to change into target directory. Another question csup has category called base that checkouts all the pieces parts making up the ports make environment. svn has no category called base What is base called in svn category? svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/8.3.0 /usr/src for example. To see the various branches, go to the svnweb site. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ In general, the checkout command will pull whatever you ask for and put it where you tell it to and save date in a .svn directory which then allows you to run svn up from then on (unless you delete the .svn directory structure) to upgrade your sources. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
any gtk folk on list?
guys, it helps to have g_get_home_dir() rather than g_get_homedir(); I *finally* triple-checked. yep, that was why my voice-by- computer GUI program wouldn't compile. ...Anyhow, I hope there are some listmembers on -questions who can help me with a final un-implemented feature. my program will help people with a small laptop or tablet that runs Unix who CAN type but whose speech is impaired. or perhaps they cannot talk at all. one of my last features is a window that will display something the speech-impaired may have typed several minutes before. by hitting the display prev button, a window opens with the title, say talk.17.text that was the 17th entry typed and spoken by the computer. it may be several paragraphs. I already have (at the button of this window), the buttons [Play], [Last window], [Next window], [Close window]. I am not skilled enough yet to know how to reach the Last or Next --if these exist. wondering if any FBSD folk can help me with this. if so, let's take it offline to avoid anybody who may not think that -questions is the right mailinglist. ithink I have exhausted all good-will among the gtk* lists and forums. right now I'm working on the built-in documentation. --this Will include a brief tutorial on vim/gvim. TIA, people... . -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Can I migrate from ataraid to graid ?
We created a few 8.3-RELEASE systems with boot mirrors using onboard Intel ICH10R. The system picks up the mirror with ataraid and I see it in dmesg like this: ar0: 114312MB DDF RAID1 status: READY But it seems that graid is a much better option, and ataraid has problems (I am seeing chatter on freebsd-fs and other places about problems). Is it possible for us to migrate this boot mirror to graid ? Can we just leave the mirror as-is (since it was bios formatted) and just start using graid ? Has anyone done this switch on a live system, or is it impossible (and we need to reformat and start over) ? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
snip csup has category called base that checkouts all the pieces parts making up the ports make environment. IE Files in /usr/ports directory svn has no category called base What is base called in svn category? svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/8.3.0 /usr/src for example. To see the various branches, go to the svnweb site. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ In general, the checkout command will pull whatever you ask for and put it where you tell it to and save date in a .svn directory which then allows you to run svn up from then on (unless you delete the .svn directory structure) to upgrade your sources. The base you have referenced in svn means kernel source. The ports cvup has category named base. There is no category named base in the svn ports category list. Doing a cvup for category base builds the following # /usr/ports ls .cvsignore GIDsLEGAL Mk Tools CHANGES KNOBS MOVED README UIDs COPYRIGHT LASTCOMMIT.txt MakefileTemplates UPDATING How do I do same thing using svn? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup to svn
--On November 21, 2012 8:11:05 PM -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: snip csup has category called base that checkouts all the pieces parts making up the ports make environment. IE Files in /usr/ports directory svn has no category called base What is base called in svn category? svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/8.3.0 /usr/src for example. To see the various branches, go to the svnweb site. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ In general, the checkout command will pull whatever you ask for and put it where you tell it to and save date in a .svn directory which then allows you to run svn up from then on (unless you delete the .svn directory structure) to upgrade your sources. The base you have referenced in svn means kernel source. The ports cvup has category named base. There is no category named base in the svn ports category list. Doing a cvup for category base builds the following # /usr/ports ls .cvsignore GIDsLEGAL Mk Tools CHANGES KNOBS MOVED README UIDs COPYRIGHT LASTCOMMIT.txt MakefileTemplates UPDATING How do I do same thing using svn? What was base is now head. To tell it to download only the files in head use: svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports svn_depth_files = 1 Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2? Sorry, typo. FreeBSD does not have to be the first slice. # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s2 Hm, still doesn't work. Look: # gpart destroy -F ada2 ada2 destroyed # gpart create -s mbr ada2 ada2 created # gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada2 bootcode written to ada2 # gpart add -t ntfs -b 2048 -s 30g ada2 ada2s1 added # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 gpart: arg0 'ada2s2': Invalid argument Got a chance to set up a scratch drive and check this. Turns out I left out the step of creating a slice (MBR partition) to hold the FreeBSD partitions. Also, GPT labels cannot be used in an MBR. Fixed below. I will probably add this to my disk setup article because it has come up more than once. Create the MBR partitioning scheme: # gpart create -s mbr ada2 Add MBR bootcode: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada2 Add the Windows 7 partition, forcing it to start at block 2048 because -a is not going to do what is expected for slices because of decades-old CHS stuff: # gpart add -t ntfs -b 2048 -s 30g ada2 Create the FreeBSD slice: # gpart add -t freebsd ada2 # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 Set this MBR slice active and add FreeBSD bootcode: # gpart set -a active -i 2 ada2 # gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot ada2s2 Add the FreeBSD partitions. -a will work here, aligning the partitions. # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 3g ada2s2 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -s 1g ada2s2 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k ada2s2 Note: can't use GPT labels... since this is MBR. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Newsletter - new product for temperature alarm and monitoring
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Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote: Got a chance to set up a scratch drive and check this. Turns out I left out the step of creating a slice (MBR partition) to hold the FreeBSD partitions. Also, GPT labels cannot be used in an MBR. Fixed below. I will probably add this to my disk setup article because it has come up more than once. The fdisk/bsdlabel section of my disk setup article has been rewritten to use gpart. Feedback welcome. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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