freebsd-update and src.txz
Is it true that freebsd-update does not update the souce files from 8.2-R to 9.0-RELEASE? And if not what is the best way to get the src.txz installed on an updated system? I do have the disc1 iso. Is src.txz installed under /usr/src or /usr/src/sys? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: update from 8.2 ZFS on root to 9.0
Op 16-1-2012 13:17, Magnus Strahlert schreef: On 15 January 2012 14:23, Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl wrote: Does anybody already did a *binary* update (w/ freebsd-update) from a zfs on root freebsd-8.2-RELEASE to a new freebsd-9.0-RELEASE zfs on root system? Did all went well? I know the procedure (freebsd-update, recompile all ports, finish freebsd-update). Succes stories please.. ;-) Did just that with no kinks at all. It's a zfsroot system with gptzfsloader. Had to upgrade the gpt bootcode as instructed when upgrading the zpool for the system to boot. Installing misc/compat8x made the ports upgrade a lot smoother. Also had to manually fetch source.txz and extract into /usr/src/sys in order for certain ports to build correctly such as x11/nvidia-driver, as that was not done by freebsd-update Sounds good. Where are these instructions for upgrading the gpt bootcode? And do you if it's normal that the souce code is nog updated by freebsd-update? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0
Op 14-1-2012 17:04, Mike Clarke schreef: On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works. Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment. BE's rock! Yes, it's working fine here. [...] Thank you very much for giving these examples. Sounds really nice. Have not tried it yet however. Still feel it's a pity FreeBSD did not incorporate the creation and managing of BE's within the system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
update from 8.2 ZFS on root to 9.0
Does anybody already did a *binary* update (w/ freebsd-update) from a zfs on root freebsd-8.2-RELEASE to a new freebsd-9.0-RELEASE zfs on root system? Did all went well? I know the procedure (freebsd-update, recompile all ports, finish freebsd-update). Succes stories please.. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0
Op 13-1-2012 15:00, Polytropon schreef: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:42:03 +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE. I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats. Source update also shouldn't be a problem. Setup your CVS supfile to get the 9.0-RELEASE sources and follow the instructions in the handbook and in /usr/src/Makefile's comment header. I will use the binary upgrade path. It seems easier for a non high-tech system ;-) My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to hear if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such a system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system that won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0
Op 14-1-2012 12:37, Mike Clarke schreef: On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to hear if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such a system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system that won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs. Have you considerd using manageBE http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/wiki/manageBE? With this tool you can set up cloned alternative Boot-Environments (BE) so that you can go back to your old BE if the new one doesn't work. I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works. Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment. BE's rock! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0
I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE. I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats. My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to be recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job. I always use portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? Or is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some pointers if possible. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0
Op 13-1-2012 14:56, Bas Smeelen schreef: On 01/13/2012 02:42 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE. I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats. My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to be recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job. I always use portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? Or is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some pointers if possible. Thanks. _ It works great with source upgrade, so freebsd-update should not be a problem but i haven't used it yet to upgrade to 9. It is used like this: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade (i.e. not fetch) See also the handbook for a good explanation You can use portmaster --list-origins to make a list of all root and leaf ports and use this to reinstall all ports after the upgrade. See man portmaster for a good example. Or you can use portmaster -af to recompile all ports. Ah, yes, I remember the latter is disadviced because some ports can have differences so you have some garbage if you run portmaster -af I will look up the example in the manual. It also will tell me (probably) if all ports have to be removed beforehand or that this does not matter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP
Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef: On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth... Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only *buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP
Op 9-1-2012 21:02, alexus schreef: there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Peterfb...@peterk.org wrote: I created a jail and within a jail I did pkg_add -r apache22 pkg_add -r php5 now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 -- http://alexus.org/ I don't think the package has the apache module by default: pkbsd:#pwd /usr/ports/lang/php5 pkbsd:#make config [ ] APACHE Build Apache module That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port. ...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package: [*] CGIBuild CGI version Yes there is no other way. Personally I find this unchecking rather weird. To me apache/PHP are a happily married couple. It makes building a webserver on packages only *not* possible and that's stupid imo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ports vs packages
Op 9-1-2012 23:00, alexus schreef: Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are somewhat limited vs ports... For example: I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that links Apache and PHP together... so unless I'm doing something entirely wrong I basically must use ports and nothing else to get the functionality i need... As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ports vs packages
Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl writes: Hi, As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. *You* think it's stupid. Yes, as I wrote: stupid imo But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's better to *have* the pache module and disable it than to *have to* use ports just to get it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP
Op 10-1-2012 15:30, Damien Fleuriot schreef: On 1/10/12 11:11 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef: On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth... Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only *buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package. Yeah, no thank you. What about those people that don't even *use* apache and want to install PHP ? We get stuck with a useless module ? Really, *no thank you* Wow, that really IS bad.. considering the price of drivespace.. No it really is much better to *force* everyone who wants to run apache/PHP to *build* from source. No pkgadd for those guys.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP
Op 10-1-2012 15:32, Damien Fleuriot schreef: A possible alternative that would keep everyone happy would be *another* package that actually includes the module, like for example a package called mod_php5, it would install the stuff from php5 + the apache module. That is the way CentOS handles things and that works very well too. So +1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd-update
Why do I get a warning if I use freebsd-update about a renewal of my FreeBSD installation within the next two months because after that time it will nog be supported anymore? I run FreeBSD-release-p4. Freebsd-update 'sees' p3. Is this the cause? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update
Op 4-12-2011 13:03, andrew clarke schreef: From what I understand, the focus is on releasing FreeBSD 9.0, and 8.3 will be released after that. But 9.0 is still in testing. Despite the message, I suspect security updates for 8.2 will still be issued for several months after 8.3 is released, to give people plenty of time to test 8.3 first before upgrading their 8.2 machines. Good to know. Thanks for the answer. I never go to a .0 release on a production server. Probably will switch to 9.1 or 9.2 when it's ready and stay with the 8.x series 'till then. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upcoming 9.0 release
Setting up plans for the upcoming 9.0 release I have one question. Assuming the freebsd-update utility will bring me from the 8.2-release to the new 9.0-release I'm not sure what to do exactly with the installed ports. I always use portmaster. What steps do I take to get from installed ports on 8.2-release to 9.0? Is there a nice and working procedure to follow? Thanks for the advice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?
If you really want. GUI based server, go for a Windows one. It will cost you but security has improved. I would never do it though but I manage my server with shell tools. I love the easiness of textbased config files ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster -a -B -d
A few days back I did a portmaster -a -B -d but later on I found out that one port (www/eAccelerator) complained about being compiled for another version of PHP (which by then was updated by portmaster). I expected portmaster to take care of these kind of dependencies. Where am I wrong in this assumption? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster -a -B -d
Op 28-8-2011 16:27, Matthew Seaman schreef: Ideally ports committers should bump the eaccelerator PORTREVISION to make ports management tools do that automatically, but if not, you're going to have to remember to do it by hand. Thank you for your explanation. I enjoyed reading it and learned a lot from it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: to come from Linux to FreeBSD
Op 24-8-2011 10:41, Matthew Seaman schreef: Virtualization is actually a bit of a tricky thing with FreeBSD. There's Jail, which is excellent -- very light weight, but it only works with FreeBSD guests. There's VirtualBox, but that runs the guest OSes as a standard client application and it tends to be slow VirtualBox is absolutely not slow. At least not on Solaris nor on windows7 boxes. The VB support from FreeBSD is not that good imho. It is a lot easier to get it going under linux, windows or solaris. I know, fbsd packages do not exist. I wonder why... Running FreeBSD as a guest under most virtualization software works well This is very true, I agree. I've set up a ZFS root system with four disks lately to try out before doing so on rela hardware and it worked very very well. Dick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
drupal7 port
I installed the drupal7 port but noticed that the webserver root (the drupal core files) were *all* owned by www:www Isn't this an enormous security risk to have apache being able to write in the core directorues of drupal7? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
zfs-snapshot-mgmt.conf
I would like to get some suggestions on the configuration of zfs snapshots taken for the root pool. zfs-snapshot-mgmt.conf.example just gives some info on /usr/home and/or /usr Does anybody use this utility for automated snapshots for his/her rootpool and want to share some code? I use it in a cron job and want to use the snapshots for the zxfer tool. I now use this line: /usr/local/sbin/zxfer -dFkPv -g 376 -R zroot backup01/pools I would like to have some snapshots on my system that are usable with this zxfer line. I once did create snapshots every ten minutes but the system got loaded with snapshots and transferring them (incremental) tot the backup system froze my kernel (vm.kmem_size too low) I have 2G ram and use a vm.kmem_size=512M Maybe this _is_ too small? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pdo_mysql.so
I need pdo_mysql.so for Drupal7 to work correctly, but I only see pdo.so and pdo_sqlite.so in the php5 extension directory. So, I checked the 'make config' to see if I forgot something. But the option to build pdo_mysql is not there. How do I get this pdo_mysql.so file? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mysql client(s)
PhpMyAdmin shows: Server: Localhost via UNIX socket Server version: 5.5.15 Protocol version: 10 User: root@localhost MySQL charset: UTF-8 Unicode (utf8) Apache/2.2.19 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.19 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 PHP/5.3.6 with Suhosin-Patch MySQL client version: mysqlnd 5.0.8-dev - 20102224 - $Revision: 308673 $ I don't understand the client version thing. I have mysql-client-5.5.15 installed too. *Why* does PhpMyAdmin not show this client but an (to me) unknown program (mysqlnd-5.0.8-dev) Where does this program come from. I have no idea how it came on my system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
larger disk for a zfs pool
OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: larger disk for a zfs pool
Op 1-8-2011 16:37, Dan Nelson schreef: In the last episode (Aug 01), Dick Hoogendijk said: OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? Should be the same procedure. Make sure you either use zpool online -e when swapping in the new disks, or that you have the zpool autoexpand=on attribute set. But I'm confused about the gpart thing I did on the original disks. $ gpart show = 34 156301421 ad4 GPT (75G) 341281 freebsd-boot (64K) 16283886082 freebsd-swap (4.0G) 8388770 1479126853 freebsd-zfs (71G) = 34 156301421 ad6 GPT (75G) 341281 freebsd-boot (64K) 16283886082 freebsd-swap (4.0G) 8388770 1479126853 freebsd-zfs (71G) Do I repeat this gpart section on the new disk(s) before putting them in the rpool (one at a time). Is it compatrible to putting the solaris bootcode on disk before attaching them to a rootpool and resilvering? I want to expand my rootpool but am a little confused about the right procedure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: larger disk for a zfs pool
Op 1-8-2011 17:06, andrew clarke schreef: On Mon 2011-08-01 16:30:50 UTC+0200, Dick Hoogendijk (d...@nagual.nl) wrote: OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? By the way, a similar question appeared on the freebsd-fs list recently: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-June/011887.html Although the question was asked with regards to ZFS v28, which may be newer than what you are using. Thanks for the pointer. It's not hopeful plus the fact that I want to expand a rootpool from which I want to boot the system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: MC and snapshots
Op 29-7-2011 22:14, Daniel Staal schreef: On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:26 pm, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Can one of you tell me why it is not possible to browse .zfs directories (from snapshots) with midnight commander? I'm running FreeBSD-8.2 w/ mc from ports. Manually switching to .zfs and it's subdirectories does show the snapshotted files, but I would like to be able to browse them (its so much easier). I know that the snapshots aren't mounted by default. (And are mounted/unmounted on the fly if needed.) That's probably part of it, at least. Have you tried setting the 'snapdir' property to 'visible'? I don't know that would help, but it'd be worth trying. I *can* go to the snapshots and see the files. I even can copy one or more of them to the live system. However, the moment I try to do this from within Midnight Commander I'm kicked out of the snapshot directory right into the root of the live filesystem. That way not able to manipulated snapshot files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)
Op 25-7-2011 18:59 schreef Chad Perrin: So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual vendor lock stuff. There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications. HTC is removing the root lock protection soon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
emacs-nox11
I want a plain console version of emacs installed on my freebsd-8.2 system. So I chose the editors/emacs-nox11 port, but I get an option screen with a lot of options set to 'on' for which I get the feeling they are X related. I.e. Freetype, Jpeg, Gif, GConf en lots of others. So, I'm confused and would very much like to know *which* of those options have to be turned on for a plaun console version of emacs. Hope to get some help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Op 24-7-2011 2:00 schreef Jerry: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:07 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable discussion. Newer methods do not frighten me, you stupid asshole. Thanks Chad. At one time I thought you were intelligent with conflicting views. However, the more of your posts I have read over the past several months, the more I have become convinced that you are suffering from Paranoia. From an earlier post: Dinosaurs are dead and the world moves forward. To deny others the availability and use of newer methods simply because they frighten you is beyond belief. You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable discussion. Newer methods do not frighten me, you stupid asshole. Learn to read. I must say I find Chad's post very reasonable and worth reading. When somone refers to me as a dinosaur I would also be a little offended. Hence, I understand Chad's reaction to that statement of yours. If your read his posts carefully you have to admid they are well thought of, at least that's my feeling. Mind you, I might have hold myself back of what Chad said (uou stupid asshole). I would like to think I would have controlled my anger ;-) A fellow poster, Bruce Cran made a reference to the Windows registry. Although he was quite correct in his remarks, you choose to belittle his contribution. That might be true. But I can't see how digging in Windows registry can be compared by editing a few simple textfiles the way UNIX had always worked. Althoudh the network settings might actually be in this registry setting it simply is not the same as a /etc/network file. Or on freebsd a etc/rc.conf You have serious mental health issues Chad. Get help! This might also be taken offensively. You are no shrink. why make such remarks. Let's stop this tone of arguments please. And going back on the subject of network managers I have to agree I too hate these tools from the moment they took over the manual way of setting things. Even good old solaris now has this on by *default*. Horrible (imho). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
compat directory
It may be a stupid question but my FreeBSD-8.2 system lacks a /compat directory. Is this normal? does it get installed through some kind of software package? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compat directory
Op 19-7-2011 12:21 schreef Polytropon: So it should be there when you've been using sysinstall for system installation. If you've used a different tool (or no tool), it may be the reason why it is missing. I installed a ZFS on root system using the known scripts. So the symlink is not created ;-) Thanks for the info. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd:
community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have
left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but
as a whole it already absolutely small small groups of people.
And do you feel this will be the end of FreeBSD?
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mutt and slrn
I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn (news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' programs? Are they gone? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mutt and slrn
Op 12-7-2011 11:39 schreef Dick Hoogendijk: I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn (news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' programs? Are they gone? I stand corrected. Must have overlooked something in doing the make search name= thing in /usr/ports. They do exist in the normal places (news/slrn and mail/mutt) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS on root backup
OK, so now my ZFS on root FreeBSD-8.2 system runs smoothly and I'm very happy being able to have ZFS (coming from solaris11), but.. what is the best strategy to back this fbsd system up. do I create various ZFS backup filesystem streams or can I easely backup the zroot pool as a whole? And if yes, how? Grateful for all the help I can get in these matters. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zfs tuning
Op 29-6-2011 23:45, Gary Gatten schreef: 2 Mega Bytes? Surely that's a typo, but is it 200MB? 2GB? Those that know ZFS will want to know the primary use / load of this system. It was a typo for sure. Should be 2GB It will be a server, so no X FAMP Mailserver for 10 users (imap) Nameserver internal network I will run about five domains, using Wordpress for three of them and TYPO3 for the other two. NO photosite, so no heavy loads on the MySQL databases. Solaris does not need settings for ZFS. I just run it and all's been well. Never had problems. I understand however that for FreeBSD it usually is better to tune things. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Boot Environments
On solaris you can have different BE's (boot environments) using ZFS. Is this possible with FreeBSD ZFS? I can't recall ever have seen a tool like BEadm (solaris). But maybe using ZFS manually I can get more BE's? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mountroot
I'm a little desperade. I installed a mirrored ZFS freebsd system in a VM the other day and all went well. Now I did the same procedure on a real systrem with two drives and I can't get the system to boot properly. Everytime it halts at the mountroot prompt. If I manually put zfs:zroot at the prompt the system boots to the login screen. I checked the /etc/rc.conf and the /boot/loader.conf for syntax errors but all seems well. What on earth can be the cause of this behaviour? What do I check? Help? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mountroot
Op 29-6-2011 21:15, Trond Endrestøl schreef: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:42+0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I'm a little desperade. I installed a mirrored ZFS freebsd system in a VM the other day and all went well. Now I did the same procedure on a real systrem with two drives and I can't get the system to boot properly. Everytime it halts at the mountroot prompt. If I manually put zfs:zroot at the prompt the system boots to the login screen. I checked the /etc/rc.conf and the /boot/loader.conf for syntax errors but all seems well. What on earth can be the cause of this behaviour? What do I check? Help? Have you specified a bootfs? E.g.: zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot Yes, I did. And just did it again. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mountroot
Op 29-6-2011 21:19, Trond Endrestøl schreef: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:18+0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 29-6-2011 21:15, Trond Endrestøl schreef: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:42+0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I'm a little desperade. I installed a mirrored ZFS freebsd system in a VM the other day and all went well. Now I did the same procedure on a real systrem with two drives and I can't get the system to boot properly. Everytime it halts at the mountroot prompt. If I manually put zfs:zroot at the prompt the system boots to the login screen. I checked the /etc/rc.conf and the /boot/loader.conf for syntax errors but all seems well. What on earth can be the cause of this behaviour? What do I check? Help? Have you specified a bootfs? E.g.: zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot Yes, I did. And just did it again. Please post your /boot/loader.conf. And did it again (zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot) ; rebooted and finally the system boots up. So, problem solved. Posts arfe being fetched. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
zfs tuning
I would welcome some advise on zfs tuning. Coming from solaris I need this info. The system only has 2MB of ram. No problems running solaris11 in it so far so FreeBSD should do just fine too, but who can suggest some settings for: vm.kmem_size vm.kmem_size_max vfs.zfs.arc_max vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size Mind you, it's for a 2MB FreeBSD-8.2 system; no X; serving mail, web, dns ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gpart
OK, I follow the manual but still... I have a disk fo 20Gb I create a GPT table for the whole disk on it: # gpart create -s gpt /dev/md0 - md0 created # gpart show md0 34 8573 md0 GPT (4.2M) Only 4 Mb?? Not really what I wanted. Anyone an idea of why the whole disk is nog used? What am I doning wrong? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gpart
Op 25-6-2011 15:14 schreef Dick Hoogendijk: OK, I follow the manual but still... I have a disk fo 20Gb I create a GPT table for the whole disk on it: # gpart create -s gpt /dev/md0 - md0 created # gpart show md0 34 8573 md0 GPT (4.2M) Only 4 Mb?? Not really what I wanted. Anyone an idea of why the whole disk is nog used? What am I doning wrong? Never mind. Problem solved. Wrong device. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD ZFS system
Op 23-6-2011 9:35 schreef Valentin Bud: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl mailto:d...@nagual.nl wrote: OK, it works very well. Installing a ZFS FreeBSD system with an ufs /boot is very very easy using the PC-BSD DVD. However, I have one question: I'd like to install FreeBSD (pcbsd) on a (zfs) mirror In OpenSolaris you can install directly to the zfs mirror, but how's this in this situation After all, an UFS partitin is also created. How can I get the equivalent of an OpenSolaris mirrored install for a FreeBSD system? Hope I phrased the question clearly enough. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hello Community, Like others said in their answer to your question, you don't have to put /boot on UFS, just go with root on ZFS. If you would like speed when installing the system I recommend mfsBSD - http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/. As pointed out in the web page there is a script (zfsinstall) that does all the work for you. It does all the steps described in the wiki - http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror. If you want to gain knowledge about the process of installing FreeBSD with root on ZFS then go with the wiki article. Using mfsBSD I install a 8.2-STABLE custom system in under 5 seconds. That's pretty neat :). OK, I tried mfsbsd. I had the iso loaded at ata1 master and freebsd-8.2-dvd as ata1 slave. I booted my VM; mfsbsd came up fine. I mounted my fbsd dvd drive on /cdrom and tried to run the zfsinstall script. Alas, it refuses.. It can't find the (needed!) 8.2-RELEASE.???tgz file It does not exist. There is only a directory 8.2-RELEASE (on DVD as well as on CDROM ). Question: is this a bug in zfsinstall script? How do I work around it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD ZFS system
OK, it works very well. Installing a ZFS FreeBSD system with an ufs /boot is very very easy using the PC-BSD DVD. However, I have one question: I'd like to install FreeBSD (pcbsd) on a (zfs) mirror In OpenSolaris you can install directly to the zfs mirror, but how's this in this situation After all, an UFS partitin is also created. How can I get the equivalent of an OpenSolaris mirrored install for a FreeBSD system? Hope I phrased the question clearly enough. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
Op 2-4-2011 19:03, Randal L. Schwartz schreef: That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be only a server: echo WITHOUT_X11=yes /etc/make.conf And then *never* use packages. Only ports Are the quotes neccessary? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
On 2-4-2011 2:51, Polytropon wrote: So there is still stuff one needs to compile, and YOU are in charge to define the options you need. This is the downside when you're running a multi- purpose OS like FreeBSD. That is a good thing. But I remember an issue that I never understood. I onced set up a system as a mail and webserver and used packages for this. Fast and easy I thought and good enough. But although lamp/famp/samp is very common I could not install apache WITH php support. Why? Because php has no support for apache compiled in the precompiled package (it might have been the other way around; not quite sure). Anyway, apache+php could not be installed from packages. I had to compile them from ports. I hated that and could not understand why a so common setting is not on by default. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dying disk
My system disk is dying. No problem here. I know how to move a FreeBSD system to new hardware. I have a question though about my GEOM mirror. The system now had one geom mirror consisting of two 1Tb drives. How can I move that mirror over to the Fbsd system on the new hardware. I guess I don't know the right steps to take on a new fbsd system for an existing geom mirror. Any help is welcome. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dying disk
On 6-11-2010 11:02, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/11/2010 09:35, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: My system disk is dying. No problem here. I know how to move a FreeBSD system to new hardware. I have a question though about my GEOM mirror. The system now had one geom mirror consisting of two 1Tb drives. How can I move that mirror over to the Fbsd system on the new hardware. I guess I don't know the right steps to take on a new fbsd system for an existing geom mirror. Any help is welcome. Do you mean physically moving over the disk hardware behind the gmirror from one machine to another? Thanks for the answer so far. No, I don't intend to buy a new system. I'll just replace the old system drive with a new one in the same system. If I understand you corrrectly it will be enough to have geom_load set on this new fbsd install to have FreeBSD load (and create) the existing geom mirror I now already have? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster
Yes, of course I did. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster
On 6-11-2010 13:39, RW wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:22:49 +0100 Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl wrote: Yes, of course I did. Then of course you should have mentioned it. Ans of course you are right. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster
Trying to update with portmaster (-a -B -d) but everytime the process stops after some time and I can't find out why this happens. All I see is a screen full of names, but no message why the thing dumped core. Is there a way to find out _WHY_ portmaster can't complete the proces? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
installing a window manager
Up 'till now I had a server without X. I've a need however to be able to graphically work on that server so I thought: I install x11-servers/xorg.server and after that I build windowmaker (nice and light). However, this does not seem to be enough to get X working. Can somebody tell me what to build (with portmaster) to get a minimal X server station with windowmaker. I run 8.1/amd64 with up2date ports. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
php5-mysqli
Hmmm, php5-mysqli did not upgrade properly using the most recent ports. Compile errors. That does not happen often, but it does happen. ;-) After a make config in lang/php5-extensions and disabling mysqli support the portmaster proces completed OK. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: download cvsup?
Are the forwarders in your named.conf file OK? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Prevent symbolic links in pure-ftp!
On 27-9-2010 21:07, Joshua Isom wrote: On 9/27/2010 12:00 PM, Phan Quoc Hien wrote: hi! How to prevent symbolic links in pure-ftp for security issuse? User can access outsite chroot by create symlink: ln -s / abc = and user can change dir to / Anyone can solve this problem? Have you read the manual for pure-ftpd? Symbolic link following can be turned off completely if you so wish, but I do not want to do your homework. Sorry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
port upgrading
I'm in doubt. I wanted to bring my ports collection uptodate, so I ran csup -L 2 /root/ports-supfile and that updated my ports collection. At least, I hope so. Then I started googling and found that cvsup is not recommended. Better tot use portsnap (???) And also portupgrade was a no go. I should be using portmaster. Woh, I'm confused now. Question: what is best used to have an up2date ports collection nowadays? This system is FreeBSD8/amd64. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port upgrading
On 26-9-2010 19:13, Matthew Seaman wrote: Really either of those two will serve you well, as will various others I like portupgrade. One question about dependencies: if I want to update *one* port I have to run portupgrade -R portname, right. But *when* do I run portupgrade -R ,name c.q. portupgrade -rR name? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
On 22-9-2010 21:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it. CUPS is really nice *when it works*. If you're lucky and have managed to buy the right sort of printer hardware, and the Gods are smiling upon you, then CUPS will serve you well. The list of supported hardware is very very long, so this part shouldn't be so hard. On the other hand, when CUPS is bad, it is truly awful. Excessively hard to debug; impossible to fix without Guru-level powers. One of those No user serviceable parts inside sort of things. This might be true. I guess this is a valid reason not to use it if you want to be able to debug things yourself _AND_ if you are a code guru. CUPS works brilliantly when I plug my printer's USB cable directly into my Mac. But I've never yet managed to print to exactly the same printer via CUPS when it is plugged into my FreeBSD server. Hmm, strange. CUPS works very well when I use a linux server, but it also works very well on my main server, now running OpenSolaris-b134. I would not want to be offensive, but could it be something inside the FreeBSD code that makes it harder to function w/ CUPS? It really is a pity, because it really is very easy to set printers up _AND_ share them over you LAN at the same time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: migrate system disk
On 22-9-2010 17:06, Dánielisz László wrote: I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from the old disk to the new one? Attach the new disk to your system and do a dump / restore action (man dump/restore for options). The FreeBSD manual has very good examples. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote: OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS. Yes, it's complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much less opaque. You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
printcap
Can somebody point me to some information about what to write into /etc/printcap on a FreeBSD machine for a Laserjet that is connected though CUPS on an OpenSolaris server? Linux/Windows computers automatically see this printer because it is broadcasted, but my FreeBSD computers do not and I would like to be able to print from those machines too. Hope to get some help. Dick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
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Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
On 16-8-2010 20:14, Roland Smith wrote: It could be that newfs is overwriting the partition table. Can you post the output of 'gpart showdevice' and 'bsdlabeldevices1'? westmark# gpart show ad8 = 63 976773105 ad8 MBR (466G) 63 9767731051 freebsd [active] (466G) westmark# bsdlabel ad8s1 # /dev/ad8s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 209715204.2BSD0 0 0 b: 12582912 2097152 swap c: 9767731050unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 16777216 146800644.2BSD0 0 0 e: 41943040 314572804.2BSD0 0 0 f: 903372785 734003204.2BSD0 0 0 westmark# I dumped/restored the system to ad8 yesterday and booted from it. The system *did* boot but (alas) the /dev/ads1a(f) slices were mounted. So, the system loaded the *old* root partitions (from the first drive). After googling and reading I think I need *boot0cfg* but I'm a bit scary to ruin my new boot (ad8) drive. So, what is the exact syntax to make my system not only boot from ad8, but also mount the /deb/ad8s1 slice as root slice? After that I can remove my old ata drive and hopefully my zfs errors are gone too then. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
boot0cfg
I dumped/restored the system to ad8 yesterday and booted from it. The system *did* boot but (alas) the /dev/ads1a(f) slices were mounted. So, the system loaded the *old* root partitions (from the first drive). After googling and reading I think I need *boot0cfg* but I'm a bit scary to ruin my new boot (ad8) drive. So, what is the exact syntax to make my system not only boot from ad8, but also mount the /deb/ad8s1 slice as root slice? Hope to get some answers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 04:49 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote: My 500Gb drives won't however. they keep on giving cg); bad magic number. Sysinstall won't newfs the drives. newfs -U /dev/gm1a (created with the script mentioned before does not work OK either. Always this unexplained message (cg0: bad magic number). I have NO CLUE whatsoever what can be the cause of this. Both drives can be formatted by Windows, Linux and lots of other utilities. They can not be formatted UFS2 for / by FreeBSD-8.1/amd64 You can try to get your system up and running using something like http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ or pcbsd. If that works, then I guess the possible cause is you. :-) Good idea. I will give it a shot, although I'm pretty sure I'm not the cause. I have four years experience as a (Open)Solaris system administrator and before that I used FreeBSD heavely. From the 4.10 series up to the 6.x series. So I do know something about the matter. But, we'll see... Keep you posted. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
On 16-8-2010 20:14, Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:35:58AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 04:49 AM, Adam Vande Moreamvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl wrote: My 500Gb drives won't however. they keep on giving cg); bad magic number. Sysinstall won't newfs the drives. newfs -U /dev/gm1a (created with the script mentioned before does not work OK either. Always this unexplained message (cg0: bad magic number). I have NO CLUE whatsoever what can be the cause of this. Both drives can be formatted by Windows, Linux and lots of other utilities. They can not be formatted UFS2 for / by FreeBSD-8.1/amd64 You can try to get your system up and running using something like http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ or pcbsd. If that works, then I guess the possible cause is you. :-) Good idea. I will give it a shot, although I'm pretty sure I'm not the cause. I have four years experience as a (Open)Solaris system administrator and before that I used FreeBSD heavely. From the 4.10 series up to the 6.x series. So I do know something about the matter. But, we'll see... Keep you posted. It could be that newfs is overwriting the partition table. Can you post the output of 'gpart showdevice' and 'bsdlabeldevices1'? I have found the cause of my troubles. Using FixIt I was able today to use my ad8 with gpart and newfs it without errors. I also found out that zpool scrub pool was waiting for an uninterruptible disk wait. That made me remember I used to have troubles before in this hardware setting. The problem lies in a flaw in my MB. I have one ATA disk attached as master and an ATAPI dvd drive (slave) on ATA channel 0 plus four SATA2 drives (ATA channel 4,5,6,7 master). Somehow this does not work OK. Without the ATA drive on channel 0 (an older model) my four SATA2 drives work perfectly. I suspect some kind of interrupt issue. Problem: FreeBSD is installed on my ATA drive on channel 0. I tried to do a minimal install on drive ad8 today to dump/restore the system over and get rid of that lousy ATA drive. Bad luck. Sysinstall can't find /dev/ad8s1b so it can't complete the creation of the filesystems. And thus I can't do a minimal install on this SATA2 drive. Any ideas how I can overcome this issue? westmark# atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: ad0 ST3160021A/8.01 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 Slave: acd0 PLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A/1.08 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 ATA channel 1: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 3: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 4: Master: ad8 Hitachi HDP725050GLA360/GM4OA5CA SATA revision 2.x Slave: no device present ATA channel 5: Master: ad10 Hitachi HDP725050GLA360/GM4OA50E SATA revision 2.x Slave: no device present ATA channel 6: Master: ad12 Hitachi HDT721010SLA360/ST6OA31B SATA revision 2.x Slave: no device present ATA channel 7: Master: ad14 Hitachi HDS721010CLA332/JP4OA39C SATA revision 2.x Slave: no device present ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
On 16-8-2010 23:13, Graeme Dargie wrote: Bit of a long shot, but have you tried enabling AHCI mode for the sata drives in the bios and setting ahci_load=YES in /boot/loader.conf assuming your the board supports it. I will certainly check this one out. Wouldn't know if my MB supports it. Hope so, for I get the feeling most problems will be over then. and if not, I'm removing the older ATA drive. The system is now being transfered to the first sata2 drive. We'll see if it will boot tomorrow. It should. The drive is prepard for it with gpart. ;-) Thanks for the pointer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
On 15-8-2010 3:10, George Hartzell wrote:
Dick Hoogendijk writes:
And how do I make the partition precisely one block smaller than the
slic it lives in?
How do I know what the blocksize is?
Are you using explicit device names to add the disks to your pool? If
so you'll gain robustness by using labels, either glabels as described
here:
http://submesa.com/data/bsd/zfs
or if you're in the gpt world then gpt labels as described in the
gpart commands illustrated here:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror
I tried both methods. I had the disks as GPT labeld ones and slices by
sysinstall. None worked.
So it may be the one block difference. Please tell me how to do that.
Just to be clear, I'm not refering to using GPT vs. MBR. I'm
suggesting that you when you use GPT you also label the partition with
something like 'disk1' and then do something like (s/mirror/raidz/ as
appropriate)
zpool create mirror foo /dev/gpt/disk1 /dev/gpt/disk2
and *not*
zpool create mirror foo /dev/ad1p1 /dev/ad2p1
If that's true you probably have something else going on.
Tried this today (again). Watched every step but zpool scrub ruined my
zpool agian with the vdev.bad_label warning. It simply does not work. My
1Tb drives do not waork with ZFS either, but at least these work with
gmirror.
http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/
The first script, just after the comment that starts:
place a PC MBR...
uses fdisk to set up a slice that's one block smaller than the disk
device (I was in{accurate,correct} in my description of the issue
earlier when I attributed it to slice/partition interference). You
can see where it subtracts 1 from the size
I learned a lot from the scripts. ;-) The drives work wonderful as a
gmirror now.
My 500Gb drives won't however. they keep on giving cg); bad magic number.
Sysinstall won't newfs the drives. newfs -U /dev/gm1a (created with the
script mentioned before does not work OK either. Always this unexplained
message (cg0: bad magic number). I have NO CLUE whatsoever what can be
the cause of this. Both drives can be formatted by Windows, Linux and
lots of other utilities. They can not be formatted UFS2 for / by
FreeBSD-8.1/amd64
I would love to get some feedback about possible causes and/or
solutions. right now those two 500Gb drives are useless. Spining around
for no good. ;-)
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ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
I run FreeBSD-8.1/amd64. I have used ZFS for four years on (Open)Solaris, so I have some experience with it. It always served me very very well. However, I cannot get it to work on my SATA2 drives. At first I thought they'de suffer from something from there OpenSolaris ZFS mirroring. So, I wiped out the drives completely by writing zero's to them. Then I created a ZFS zpool on one drive, destroyed it and created a mirrored zpool on my 2 Tb drives. It seemed OK; files could be written and removed to/from it. A new zfs filesystem worked OK too. *HOWEVER*, the moment I *do* something to the zpool like zpool scrub pool I get a vdev failure (type=vdev.bad_label) and the pool is ruined. It can't be destroyed or exported anymore. It's just a waste. I tested this behaviour on 10 different drives. Four of them brandnew. It happened everytime again. It is not the drives! Booting into OpenSolaris b134 I am perfectly able to create workable ZFS mirrors out of the drives. I can also scrub them ;-) ;-) or whatever io related thing I want to do. This leads me to the conclusion that something is definitely wrong with ZFS in FreeBSD-8.1/amd64. For the moment I created some gmirrors on a couple of drives, but man, how I'd liked to have zpools. They work zo much sweater/easier. Am I alone in these matters? Are there any known issues regarding ZFS. I know there are some in FreeBSD-9 (at least I saw some reports on vdev.bad_label messages) on nabble.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
STAT RL+ process
I have a process on v1 which shows STAT RL+ Do I understand it correctly that this process is waiting for a lock? And if it does this for quite some time it is probably not getting it and I can wait forever for this process to complete? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS not usable on FreeBSD-8.1
On 14-8-2010 21:24, George Hartzell wrote: You haven't provided enough information for me to make a concrete suggestion, but this kind of thing often seems to boil down to something getting confused over slices and partitions when they both have the same extent (start-end) on disk. This used to bite me in the gmirror world until I learned to make the partition one block smaller than the slice it lived in. And how do I make the partition precisely one block smaller than the slic it lives in? How do I know what the blocksize is? Are you using explicit device names to add the disks to your pool? If so you'll gain robustness by using labels, either glabels as described here: http://submesa.com/data/bsd/zfs or if you're in the gpt world then gpt labels as described in the gpart commands illustrated here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror I tried both methods. I had the disks as GPT labeld ones and slices by sysinstall. None worked. So it may be the one block difference. Please tell me how to do that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
cg0: bad magic number
My 1Tb sata2 drives work very well with FreeBSD. They can be sliced, partitioned and newfs can be run. However, no matter what I try (sysinstall, gpart) when I slice my 500Gb drive and create a partition in it (1 block smaller than the slice) I can not newfs the /dev/ad8s1a It always end up with a *cg0: bad magic number* Googling I find a lot of references, but none give me the answer to my problem. All 500Gb drives can be formatted under Windows, linux (Ubuntu), Partion Magic, Solaris without errors. Alas, non of these systems supports formatting in UFS2. I need FreeBSD to do that but this fails... I'm getting quite depressed about this. Espescially because I cannot find the answer to this issue and I hate that! What on earth can it be? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd
I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS mirror (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14). If I boot off the OpenSolaris boot CD and import both mirrors will the copying from v22 ZFS to v14 ZFS be harmless? I'm not sure if this is teh right mailinglist for this question. Let me know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd
On 12-8-2010 20:04, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS mirror (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14). I'm NOT a ZFS expert, but I think it should be OK as long as you don't upgrade the v14 pool. OpenSolaris won't upgrade pool versions automatically, so this shouldn' t be a problem. I'm assuming this is a normal file copy, here; if you're trying to use 'zfs send' and 'zfs receive' I think you'll run into difficulty. Yes, it will be normal file copying. It's eassuring that osol won't ugrade the pool ;-) My main concern was that there would be some (although maybe slight) difference between FreeBSD ZFS and OpenSolaris. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
releases, branches,..
My years of OpenSolaris made me forget the use of releases and branches. I'm not into too much compiling anymore. I want a stable, but also safe server. I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found? What do I need to run if I want the lates and needed security patches? I do not want to update my system (at least as few times as possible) Which brach do I follow? I have the feeling that STABLE is too innovative(?) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: releases, branches,..
On 12-8-2010 22:53, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:46:18 +0200, Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl wrote: I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found? Which brach do I follow? In this case, use freebsd-update to track -RELEASE; you will get the security patches by binary updating, e. g. you can use this tool to get from 8.1-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE-p1 without the need to compile anything. See man freebsd-update for details. Thank you. I will follow RELEASE than. Also a thanks to Svein. ;-) Is RELEASE automaticaly set in a fresh FreeBSD install or do I need to change anything? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
zfs data on disk
Where does ZFS keeps its data *on disk* for created/exported/imported vdevs? Is /etc/zfs the only place or are there other places? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gmirror of zfs mirror
I'm convinced that ZFS mirroring is far better than gmirroring, but the latter uses much less memory (I think). My server has 3Gb and is solely used as server (web, files/nfs/samba, dns, mail). The data is serves does not change much, so I would think the data integrity checks of ZFS although useful do not serve a very high purpose. If a disk goes bad it can be replaced using gmirror and/or ZFS. Why would it be the preferred way to use ZFS over gmirror? I know ZFS (I come from opensolaris). I'm not that familiar with gmirror. Hence the doubts..;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
AHCI driver
I'm told it would be better to enable the AHCI driver form my SATA2 drives. It would make ZFS perform better on them. From the release notes I get: FreeBSD cam(3) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=camsektion=3manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE SCSI framework has been improved and a new kernel option |option ATA_CAM| has been added. This turns ata(4) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=atasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE controller drivers into cam(4) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=camsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE interface modules. When enabled, this option deprecates all ata(4) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=atasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE peripheral drivers and interfaces such as ad and acd, and allows cam(4) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=camsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE drivers ada, and cd and interfaces to be natively used instead. Note that this is not enabled by default in the GENERIC kernel. Is it really better to enable AHCI driver? Will I be able to GEOM label normal disks (like /dev/ad0) or do I need /dev/ada0 drives for that? Thanks for any help / advice on this matter. I'm building the server and want to do things right from the start. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zfs question
On 10-8-2010 16:00, David Rawling wrote: On 9/08/2010 2:52 AM, krad wrote: So I ask you to ponder - at four o'clock in the morning, with mail down, web servers down and all the disks holding your files failing to mount - which file system or disk structure would you prefer to try to troubleshoot? ZFS. No question about it. Thank you for this eye opener. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
GEOM GPT table is corrupt. Recover?
I wanted to install ZFS on two 1Tb harddisks. I did a fdisk -I /dev/ad12 to begin with, but: GEOM: ad12: the primary GPT table is corrupt or invalid GEOM: ad12: using the secondary instead -- recovery strongly advised. OK, I want to follow up on this advice, but HOW? The corruption probably comes from the fact these disks were used fully as ZFS mirror under OpenSolaris with an EFI label. What's the best way to restore these disks to be fully used under FreeBSD (w/ ZFS). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GEOM GPT table is corrupt. Recover?
On 10-8-2010 16:59, Tim Baird wrote: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=64k count=1 Then repartition with either fdisk of gpartdepending on disk size They are 1Tb sata2 disks and I want them fully used for ZFS. Do I need partions then? The EFI label in OpenSolaris just made the disks available for ZFS. How's that on FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS woes
FreeBSD-8.1/amd64 - I spend all evening trying to create a ZFS mirror on my two 1Tb sata2 drives formerly used under opensolaris (zfs22) I wiped out the firt mb; i used sysinstall to create a fbsd slice; wiped it out again; booted knoppix to create an EFI / GPT; booted into opensolaris and created a zpool (v14), but nothing, nothing did the trick. sometimes the GEOM GPT table (first / second) was bad; sometimes I saw other warnings; sometimes I *seemed* to be able to create a ZFS mirror and it *seemed* healthy. I even could write to it, but the moment I wanted to do a zpool scrub tank the system freezes or gave me warnings like ZFS: vdev failure, zpool=tank type=vdev.bad.label Whatever I did, I could not get rid of the errors and create a healthy zpool. It really drives me crazy, so if anyone can tell me HOW I can turn two drives into a state that I can use them for ZFS under FreeBSD, please tell me *in detail*. I love to have ZFS back (I'm really used to it on opensolaris), but it has to be safe. It cannot be that one zpool scrub halts my system. I must have done something wrong then. But what? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS woes 2
In addition to my former message, would a total cleaning of both harddrives be usefull? I.e. by running |dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad12 or ||dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/ad12 | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gmirror gm0
How can I totally remove a created gmirror (gm0) I know of the option gmirror forget gm0 but does that make the mirror disappear? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS woes
On 11-8-2010 0:52, Dale Scott wrote: wiped out the firt mb; i used sysinstall to create a fbsd slice; wiped it out again; booted knoppix to create an EFI / GPT; booted into opensolaris and created a zpool (v14), but nothing, nothing did the trick. I was doing a vanilla fbsd install recently using a couple re-claimed 250GB IDE drives. The install completed without errors, but after reboot GEOM complained bitterly about the secondary GPT table on the boot drive being corrupted or invalid, and unrecoverable corrupted or invalid GPT tables on the 2nd drive. By trying something like above, I was able to get the system drive to rebuild the secondary GPT table, but nothing worked on the second drive. Google told me a targeted approach was technically possible (by calculating exactly where a specific drive stores its GPT metadata and zeroing just that bit), but also that the broader solution of zeroing out the entire drive would be faster for me than figuring out the calculation (about 18 hrs to zero the entire drive, at least it was mostly while sleeping): dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad3 bs=64K (no idea if the block size is optimal or even relevant). I did not want to overwrite two drives with /dev/zero, so I created a mirror with gmirror yesterday, folowing the steps from the freebsd manual. After it was completed I just did: # gmirror stop gm0 # gmirror clear /dev/ad12 # gmirror clear /dev/ad14 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad12 bs=1m count=1 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad14 bs=1m count=1 # kldload zfs # zpool create store mirror ad12 ad14 ## Wrote some data to /store ## # zpool scrub store # zpool history store ## No More Errors !!! ## I guess creating the gmirror metadata / mirror and removing it cleared all data which caused me so much trouble. I happely removed the geom_mirror_load=YES with zfs_load=YES and have what I wanted: FreeBSD/zfs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS woes
On 11-8-2010 7:05, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On 11-8-2010 0:52, Dale Scott wrote: [cut the former message..] I just found out that the process to repair offending disks with GEOM errors, bad labels etc.. can be repaired a lot quicker. # gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad12 ## -- disk with vdev error # gmirror stop gm0 # gmirror clear /dev/ad12 # if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad12 bs=1m count=1 ## -- removes all partition data This leaves me with a completely healthy disk that makes zfs happy ;) Repeat for all other faulthy disks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
amd64
I've installed FreeBSD-amd64. It runs very well. The packages I fetch are amd64 too, but what about the ports I compile myself? Are those amd64 too? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
zfs question
Years back I ran FreeBSD, so I have some experience. The last couple of years I ran Solaris, followed by Opensolaris. I am very satisfied. However, considering the troubles after Oracle took over I have rebuild my server system under FreeBSD-8.1 (now running as a virtual machine under VirtualBox). All works very well and smooth so I'm going to transfer this VM to a real seperate harddisk. I have a couple of questions: [1] Transfering the VM is best done using dump/restore I guess? (This after a smallest creation of fbsd81 on the new harddisk) ? My server has five disks: 1 PATA (160Gb), 2 SATA2 (500Gb) and 2 SATA2 (1Tb) The fist is disabled at the moment and the others are ZFS mirrors under opensolaris. they are not usable for freebsd because the zfs versions don't match. I will have to rebuild. ;-) However, I'm a bit worried about the status of ZFS on FreeBSD-8.1 I don't want my system to boot off ZFS like I have now on OpenSolaris-b134 I think it is wisest to have the 160Gb IDE drive installed for FreeBSD system drive w/ UFS2 and after that create two ZFS mirrors from my SATA drives. Is ZFS (v14) ready for production on FreeBSD-8.1 and if yes, will I still need special settings? The server system is 64bits and has 3Gb memory. I hope to get some answers or good reading points. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zfs question
On 8-8-2010 14:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: Yes. It works very well. On amd64 you'll get a pretty reasonable setup out of the box (so to speak) which will work fine for most purposes. Of course, if your system has particularly demanding IO patterns, then you may have to tweak some loader.conf or sysctl parameters to get the best results. But that's hardly unique to ZFS. Yes, you're quite right. ;-) But now you mention it: my virtual installation under virtualbox is i386. So, I guess it's better to reinstall, because the server is amd64. I also think that will be better in future use of ZFS (needs 64bits to be happy. Am I right in believing I need the amd64 version (w/ ZFS) above the i386 one? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zfs question
On 8-8-2010 14:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: Yes. It works very well. On amd64 you'll get a pretty reasonable setup out of the box (so to speak) which will work fine for most purposes. One other thing comes to mind. I want a very robus, fast rockl solid *server* It will be a file- email and webserver mostly. Instead of using two ZFS mirrors I could also go for gmirror (I'm not familiar with it, but it's been around for quite some time so it should be very stable). I don't get the data integrity that way, but my files would be safe, no? Also, using gmirror I could use normal BSD UFS filesystems and normal swap files devided across all disks? Or am I wrong, thinking this way. I'm not into fancy stuff; it has to be robust, fast and safe. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: flash9 hangs firefox a lot
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:31:27 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: just recently upgrade flash 7 to flash 9 following the instructions. but lately found out that firefox hangs a lot when visiting pages running flash. and the console reports: how can I get rid of that?? thank you!! ask adobe - they wrote flash Flash (Adobe) and FreeBSD don't get along well. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv105 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using HDD's for ZFS: 'desktop' vs 'raid / enterprise' -edition drives?
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:00:09 +0100 Frederique Rijsdijk frederi...@isafeelin.org wrote: I also read/noticed that ZFS seems to run best on AMD64 platforms. That's not quite correct. ZFS runs best on 64bits platforms. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv104 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using HDD's for ZFS: 'desktop' vs 'raid / enterprise' -edition drives?
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:40:38 +0100 Eric Masson e...@free.fr wrote: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: think twice before doing. Could you elaborate please ? Not again this anti-zfs story please.. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv104 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using HDD's for ZFS: 'desktop' vs 'raid / enterprise' -edition drives?
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:17:30 -0500 stan st...@panix.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 05:48:27PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: think twice before doing. Could you elaborate please ? ZFS still doesn't work as described ... Is that comment FreeBSD specifc, or aimed at ZFS in general? Mind you, ZFS on FreeBSD is not the same as on OpenSolaris-2008.11, Nevada or even Solaris 10. On those platforms ZFS generally does what it is supposed to do, other than it's still a developing FS. On *BSD related systems that is not always the case. Do a good readup. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv104 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:51:03 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: That's not censorship -- it's a nondisclosure agreement. There are users on this list who would love to see users of FBSD bound by an NDA so that they could not say anything these self appointed CENSORS consider verboten. you are excellent at messing things up. Look who's talking.. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv104 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
