Re: Saving scanned document

2013-07-23 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:35:40 -0400
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:50:00 -0400
 Lowell Gilbert articulated:
 
  Jerry je...@seibercom.net writes:
  
   Does anyone know of a way of getting the scanner to see the
   FreeBSD machine and saving a file to it?
  
  I'm not sure I correctly understand your intention, but maybe Samba
  is what you're looking for?
 
 Samba is working fine and all of the other computers on the network
 can see each other and the printer/scanner. The problem is that the
 scanner does not see the FreeBSD machine.
 

Jerry;

Doesn't Brother printers have a webpage where you can scan from it? At
least that's what the HP I have does. Any computer on the network can
access this page and scan from it. Including my BSD.

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Re: Firefox is so slow

2013-04-30 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:08:55 -0500
Edwin L. Culp W. edwinlc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your comment.  I agree that firefox is intermittently slow
 or stop.  Which do you use?  I tend to use chromium although I still
 will probably go back to firefox unless chrome becomes a bit more
 firefox like.
 
 thanks
 ed

Just barging in the thread to post my numbers.

FBSD 8.3 AMD64 - 16G RAM - Phenom II 975 quad - SATA II disks

NVIDA 9800 GT

KDE 4.8.4 / Qt 4.8.2

Firefox ESR 17.0.2 with:

Addons: 

BYTubeD
DoNotTrackMe
DownloadHelper
FlashBlock
HTTPSEverywhere
NoScript
Noia4 Theme

Plugins:

Default Pligin
Helix RealPlayer
IcedTea-Web
Flash 11.2 r202

Time to load: 4 seconds

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Re: Firefox is so slow

2013-04-30 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:01:39 -0300
Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:08:55 -0500
 Edwin L. Culp W. edwinlc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks for your comment.  I agree that firefox is intermittently
  slow or stop.  Which do you use?  I tend to use chromium although I
  still will probably go back to firefox unless chrome becomes a bit
  more firefox like.
  
  thanks
  ed
 
 Just barging in the thread to post my numbers.
 
 FBSD 8.3 AMD64 - 16G RAM - Phenom II 975 quad - SATA II disks
 
 NVIDA 9800 GT
 
 KDE 4.8.4 / Qt 4.8.2
 
 Firefox ESR 17.0.2 with:
 
 Addons: 
 
 BYTubeD
 DoNotTrackMe
 DownloadHelper
 FlashBlock
 HTTPSEverywhere
 NoScript
 Noia4 Theme
 
 Plugins:
 
 Default Pligin
 Helix RealPlayer
 IcedTea-Web
 Flash 11.2 r202
 
 Time to load: 4 seconds
 

2 things I forgot to mention

- I have 47 TABs opened 
- If I close it and open it again, it only takes 2 seconds to load.

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Re: Booting Problem

2013-01-29 Thread Mario Lobo
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:16:14 -0800
Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote:

 I have a relatively old machine that I am trying to boot 9.1 on.  The
 bios will not boot from USB stick.  I am using an external CD drive.
 It starts the boot process fine and gets to the Bootstrap loader
 message with revision 1.1.  Then it puts out the machine, date, time
 the CD was created and starts the spinner.  It spins around about 2
 times and stops.  The system continues to read from the drive for
 another couple minutes.  Then everything stops.  Nothing more happens.
 
 The CD is good.  I can boot it just fine using the same external
 drive on another machine.  While I could remove the drive and
 temporarily mount in in the working machine and build it there, I
 would like to find a way to successfully boot from CD.  This will
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Can you boot a different OS (Win, Ububtu, gparted, etc ...) from the
same drive on the same machine?

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Re: OSS and ALSA

2013-01-21 Thread Mario Lobo
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:12:34 +0100
David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 21/01/2013 17:23, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
  
  Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote:
  
  Yes, SDL Output works fine.  I think that this should be the
  default for the
  following reasons:
  - unlike OSS4 it doesn't require an additional external kernel
  driver
  - unlike PulseAudio it doesn't require any daemon (and possibly
  extra configuration)
  - unlike ALSA OSS plugin, SDL code is sane in its usage of OSS API
  
  The real OSS support was dropped by audacious somewhere in the
  past and is
  unfortunally no longer available.
  I can switch the default from OSS4 to SDL if this is what the
  community wants - I have no hard feeling here.
 
 Yes I think this is a better solution, OSSv4 is an huge port that must
 *replace* the in-kernel mixer/soundcard support.
 
 Cheers,
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Could one of you show the steps to set SDL as the default sound system
on FBSD instead of OSS?

Thanks,

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Is csup still working?

2013-01-10 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I have 8-STABLE and I just did,

csup -L 2 src-supfile

with

*default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8

and it finished with:

 Edit src/usr.sbin/zzz/zzz.sh
  Add delta 1.2.32.2 2012.11.17.10.37.28 svnexp
Shutting down connection to server
Finished successfully

Can I trust this update to be correct, with the latest sources?

Thanks,

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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-19 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:07:44 -0500
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

Snip ...

 So how can I run rpd on the freebsd host running the virtualbox
 server system so I can access the configured vm?  I this
 configuration even possible?
 

I'll give it one last shot.

CREATE/RUNNING  ACCESSING !


CREATE/RUN guests needs X11 ?  NO !

ACCESSING guests needs X11 ? Depends on the guest.

a) Guest = Consele head OS (FBSD, Lunux, etc..) = No need for
x11/graphics on the local host or any other remote accessing host.

b) Guest = Graphic head OS (windose, any *NIX w/ a graphic interface,
Macs, etc..) = Yes, You will need x11 or some form of graphic
interface running on the local host or any other remote accessing host.


I hope this puts an end to it.
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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:10:23 -0800
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com
  wrote:
   I do not run x11 or any desktop on my 9.0 host.
 
  This would be your problem.
 
 How so?  Surely virtualbox _should_ be able to hand off a VT to the
 XP guest, for it to use as a keyboard, mouse, and display.  (This
 supposes that the FreeBSD box in question _has_ a keyboard, mouse,
 and display, and thus has a VT that it can hand off.)
 
 Fbsd8 fbsd8 at a1poweruser.com wrote:
  I have 9.0 installed on my 200gb hard drive, it's configured to use
  the first 100gb leaving the second 100gb free. I was going to
  install XP in the second half and have a duel boot config. Then I
  find out XP has to be install first on the HD ...
 
 The easiest solution might be to dd the first 100gb (containing
 the FreeBSD installation) to the second 100gb, mark the first 100gb
 as unused, and install XP there if it needs to be in the lowest-
 addressed part of the disk.  Back up the FreeBSD installation first!
 
 Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
  To access the XP graphics interface, you NEED a graphics
  environment!
 
 XP itself, when running directly on the hardware, provides its own
 graphics environment.  
 
It also does that when running on a VM but it does not provide a
graphics environment for the host.

 It should be able to do the same running on
 a VM with a virtualized keyboard, mouse, and display.

To show a window you need a display that can show it, be it head or
headless. To diaplay a head, be it local or remote, the display must be
able to handle graphics to properly show the VM screen (head), and like
I said, I have no idea on how to do that on a text console screen.

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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:57:53 -0500
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 Section 23.3 of the handbook speaks about FreeBSD as a host.
 No where in that section does it say anything about virtualbox
 running from the FreeBSD host command line or from A Desktop.
 
 Do I need a Desktop for virtualbox to run under?
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NOPE !!

VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name

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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:44:54 -0500
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:57:53 -0500
  Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
  
  Section 23.3 of the handbook speaks about FreeBSD as a host.
  No where in that section does it say anything about virtualbox
  running from the FreeBSD host command line or from A Desktop.
 
  Do I need a Desktop for virtualbox to run under?
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  NOPE !!
  
  VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name
  
 
 Issueing VirtualBox from host command line gets this msg.
 Failed to open the x11 display
 
 VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name assumes that there a vb guest
 all ready configured which is not my case.
 
 There is no man page for VBoxHeadless command.
 
 How do a configure a vb guest from the host command line?
 
 

You can start VirtualBox from an ssh session (with X-forwarding
enabled) from you desktop to your desktopless host. Ssh will forward
the VBox window to your screen.

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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:44:54 -0500
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:57:53 -0500
  Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
  
  Section 23.3 of the handbook speaks about FreeBSD as a host.
  No where in that section does it say anything about virtualbox
  running from the FreeBSD host command line or from A Desktop.
 
  Do I need a Desktop for virtualbox to run under?
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  NOPE !!
  
  VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name
  
 
 Issueing VirtualBox from host command line gets this msg.
 Failed to open the x11 display
 
 VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name assumes that there a vb guest
 all ready configured which is not my case.
 

Right! I assumed you already had the VM ready. Sorry.


 There is no man page for VBoxHeadless command.

There are those:

http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/UserManual.pdf

and

http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/

VBoxHeadless is covered on both.

 How do a configure a vb guest from the host command line?
 
 

VBoxManage can do all that from command line. Check it out or follow my
previous e-mail.

Sorry for not being more thorough on my last post.

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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:18:10 -0500
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 
  Section 23.3 of the handbook speaks about FreeBSD as a host.
  No where in that section does it say anything about virtualbox
  running from the FreeBSD host command line or from A Desktop.
 
  Do I need a Desktop for virtualbox to run under?
 
  NOPE !!
 
  VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name
 
  Issueing VirtualBox from host command line gets this msg.
  Failed to open the x11 display
 
  VBoxHeadless -startvm  vm name assumes that there a vb guest
  all ready configured which is not my case.
 
  
  Right! I assumed you already had the VM ready. Sorry.
  
  
  There is no man page for VBoxHeadless command.
  
  There are those:
  
  http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/UserManual.pdf
  
  and
  
  http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/
  
  VBoxHeadless is covered on both.
  
  How do a configure a vb guest from the host command line?
 
  
  VBoxManage can do all that from command line. Check it out or
  follow my previous e-mail.
  
 
 I read the UserManual and think I am barking up the wrong tree.
 So lets start over again with what the wanted desired result is.
 I have 9.0 installed on my 200gb hard drive, it's configured to use
 the first 100gb leaving the second 100gb free. I was going to install
 XP in the second half and have a duel boot config. Then I find out XP
 has to be install first on the HD meaning I have to install 9.0 from
 scratch again. I read a post on this list where it was suggested to
 run Virtualbox on my 9.0 host and then run XP as a guest. I want to
 boot the 9.0 host and login to the 9.0 host, start the Virtualbox XP
 guest and enter the XP guest [IE: be in the XP OS windows
 environment], can I do all that from the host command line? I do not
 run x11 or any desktop on my 9.0 host. I do not want to use an second
 PC to login to the VB XP guest over ssh.
 

To access the XP graphics interface, you NEED a graphics environment!

I, at least, don't know of a way to access a graphics interface from a
text console and you're not willing to do an RDP/VNC session from
another machine.

I'm sorry but you're stuck ! I can't help you any further.

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Re: Firefox install problem

2012-09-05 Thread Mario Lobo
2012/9/4 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com

 On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, Waitman Gobble wrote:

  On Sep 4, 2012 7:03 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:


 All I've done was csup -L 2 ports-supfile with ports-www in it.
 Then cd /usr/ports/www/firefox; make with default options.

 As for my /etc/make.conf

 CPUTYPE?=nocona
 OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f10
 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f10
 WITH_KDE4=yes
 WITH_CUPS=yes
 WITH_ICONS=KDE4
 WITHOUT_GNOME=yes
 PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION=python2.7
 PERL_VERSION=5.10.4

 If it is its fault, it will be the first time in around 3,5 years.


 did you _only_  csup www in ports? ill have to check but im not sure
 libvpx
 is in www... im not in a place to check at this exact second but my memory
 is that is providing webm support so probably in audio or multimedia


 multimedia/libvpx would not have been updated.  Selectively updating ports
 is not supported.  Symlinking libraries to missing versions is often a
 source of mysterious problems later.



I had run csup with ports-multimedia since the first libvpx error came up!.
Libvpx was already up to date by the way, and correctly installed. So i did
not Symlink a library to any missing version.

Selectively updating ports is not supported.  Then I must wonder why do
we have the option to put ports-{$port} inside the supfile, and not a
mandatory ports-all.


@Jan

~]ident /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gecko.mk
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gecko.mk:
$FreeBSD: ports/Mk/bsd.gecko.mk,v 1.63 2012/07/26 23:12:19 flo Exp $

As far as I could find, this seems to be the latest version.

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Re: [SOLVED] Firefox install problem

2012-09-05 Thread Mario Lobo
2012/9/5 Jan Beich jbe...@tormail.org

 Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br writes:

  @Jan
 
  ~]ident /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gecko.mk
  /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gecko.mk:
  $FreeBSD: ports/Mk/bsd.gecko.mk,v 1.63 2012/07/26 23:12:19 flo Exp $
 
  As far as I could find, this seems to be the latest version.

 Try another cvsup server or subversion.


You nailed it Jan !

I updated bsd.gecko,mk from the link you posted:

 http://trillian.chruetertee.ch/freebsd-gecko/changeset/951

It solved BOTH problems! (libvpx and the install issue). I deleted the
symlink to libvpx.so and compilation/installation went on without a glitch.

I tested it with all firefox port versions under www/ and they all went ok.

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Firefox install problem

2012-09-04 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

env:
FBSD 8.3-STABLE AMD64
Firefox 15 port

The problem seems to be with the porting itself.

The first problem showed up during configure. Libvpx could not be found and
configure stops.
After examining Config.Log, I found  a compiler switch like this:

-L/usr/local/lib/nss

I made a symlink there to libvpx.so and the port compiled without errors.

Then after issuing a make install, this comes up everytime:

[Snip]
a ./searchplugins/yahoo.xml
a ./dictionaries/en-US.aff
a ./dictionaries/en-US.dic
a ./defaults/pref
a ./defaults/pref/channel-prefs.js
a ./chrome/icons
a ./chrome/icons/default
a ./chrome/icons/default/default16.png
a ./chrome/icons/default/default32.png
a ./chrome/icons/default/default48.png
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/config/nsinstall -D
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/bin
rm -f -f /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/bin/firefox
ln -s /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/lib/firefox/firefox
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/bin
gmake[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/browser/installer'
echo 'share/applications/firefox.desktop' 
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/plist_files
echo @dirrmtry share/applications 
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/plist_dirs
echo 'share/pixmaps/firefox.png'  /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/plist_files
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/libdata
/bin/mv -f /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/lib/pkgconfig
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/libdata/ || true
mv: rename /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/lib/pkgconfig to
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/libdata/pkgconfig: No such file or
directory
/bin/rm -f /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/lib/pkgconfig
cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/include
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.

All the fixes I googled that could relate to this, date back to 2005 the
latest,, and none of them helped.

I've been trying to fix this for 2 days now and I'm not getting anywhere so
I can only hope someone can shed a light on this problem here on the list..

My sincere thanks to whoever points me a direction.

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Re: Firefox install problem

2012-09-04 Thread Mario Lobo
2012/9/4 Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com


  This might help...

 /usr/ports/UPDATING

 20120726:
   AFFECTS: users of devel/pkg-config
   AUTHOR: b...@freebsd.org

   devel/pkg-config has been replaced by devel/pkgconf

   # portmaster -o devel/pkgconf devel/pkg-config
   or
   # portupgrade -fo devel/pkgconf pkg-config-\*

   pkgng:
   # pkg set -o devel/pkg-config:devel/pkgconf
   # pkg install -f devel/pkgconf



Thank Alexander but been there, done that.

pkg_info | grep pkg
pkgconf-0.8.7 pkg-config compatible utility which does not depend on glib

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Re: Firefox install problem

2012-09-04 Thread Mario Lobo
First, thanks for replying !

On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:14:06 -0400
Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:

 Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br writes:
 
  env:
  FBSD 8.3-STABLE AMD64
  Firefox 15 port
 
  The problem seems to be with the porting itself.
 
  The first problem showed up during configure. Libvpx could not be
  found and configure stops.
  After examining Config.Log, I found  a compiler switch like this:
 
  -L/usr/local/lib/nss
 
  I made a symlink there to libvpx.so and the port compiled without
  errors.
 
 That's an incredibly ugly solution; 

I can't disagree with that! but hey, the problem was getting to compile
correctly and, in the absence of the right knowledge and the presence
of need, that did it.

 if the vpx port were installed
 correctly, it would have been detected, so you're probably just
 hiding a real problem.
 

The problem is libvpx.so is CORRECTLY installed
under /usr/local/lib/vpx, together with all the other correctly
installed libraries on my system so most certainly there is something
uglier than my hack here.


  Then after issuing a make install, this comes up everytime:
 
  [Snip]
  a ./searchplugins/yahoo.xml
  a ./dictionaries/en-US.aff
  a ./dictionaries/en-US.dic
  a ./defaults/pref
  a ./defaults/pref/channel-prefs.js
  a ./chrome/icons
  a ./chrome/icons/default
  a ./chrome/icons/default/default16.png
  a ./chrome/icons/default/default32.png
  /bin/rm -f /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/lib/pkgconfig
  cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/fake/include
  *** Error code 2
 
  Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
 
 
 You've done something really weird (in particular, the work/fake
 directory would not exist or be referenced in a normal ports
 installation). Try emptying your /etc/make.conf and starting from
 scratch.

All I've done was csup -L 2 ports-supfile with ports-www in it.
Then cd /usr/ports/www/firefox; make with default options.

As for my /etc/make.conf

CPUTYPE?=nocona
OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f10
OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f10
WITH_KDE4=yes
WITH_CUPS=yes
WITH_ICONS=KDE4
WITHOUT_GNOME=yes
PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION=python2.7
PERL_VERSION=5.10.4

If it is its fault, it will be the first time in around 3,5 years.

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Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?

2012-08-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:16:38 -0400
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:43:21 -0300
 Mario Lobo articulated:
 
  On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:33:20 -0400
  Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
  
   On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400
   Robert Huff articulated:
   
  [Snip]
  
   The socialists still feel they are entitled to something
   for nothing.
   
  Jerry;
  
  Forgive me for barging in like this but to me, what your sentence
  describes is just plain good old greedy people. Patents provided
  the perfect LEGAL way for these very people to make theirs, an idea
  that they didn't think of or had the gift/talent to create, as a
  quickie for profit. The result: Now the long patent arm reaches
  fruit, seeds and DNA. This means that I can't create a Graviola
  juice drink (local Brazilian fruit) because a Japanese guy patented
  the fruit !! How ridiculous did we allowed this to get?
 
 Yes you can. You are stating a commonly held incorrect belief. You can
 always request a license from the patient holder. No one, well no one
 interested in monetary compensation would patient anything unless they
 were:
 
 ⁽¹⁾ Intended to use the patents in such a way that they would
 directly profit from it
 
 ⁽²⁾ Intended to lease the patent rights or outright sell the patent.
 
 Patients protect hard working people who may work years, maybe half
 their life to come up with a killer idea only to have a douche bag
 come along and use it sans payments.
 
 Interestingly enough, you seem to equate an entity, individual, group
 or corporation that want to profit off of their work and investment as
 greedy. I call them entitled. With that said, feel free to develop
 some great idea and then give it away for nothing. No one, certainly
 not me, is going to stop you.
 

Discussion moved off-list.

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Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?

2012-08-05 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:33:20 -0400
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400
 Robert Huff articulated:
 

[Snip]

 The socialists still feel they are entitled to something
 for nothing.
 

Jerry;

Forgive me for barging in like this but to me, what your sentence
describes is just plain good old greedy people. Patents provided
the perfect LEGAL way for these very people to make theirs, an idea that
they didn't think of or had the gift/talent to create, as a quickie
for profit. The result: Now the long patent arm reaches fruit, seeds
and DNA. This means that I can't create a Graviola juice drink (local
Brazilian fruit) because a Japanese guy patented the fruit !! How
ridiculous did we allowed this to get?

On a final note, if your sentence were to reflect a little better the
idea of socialism (at least on paper), it should read:

The socialists still feel that everybody is entitled to something
for nothing.

Unfortunately today, socialism, democracy, communism or liberalism are
mere skins for hungry wolves.

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OT - Squid external connections

2012-07-16 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

Would anybody know how can I cross-reference squid/Lusca external
connections with LAN hosts?

For example, if I see an http connection on ext_if, is there a way to
find out on behalf of which LAN host squid is making that connection?

Using FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE, pf and Lusca latest port.

I tried to search for a hint but this is really tricky to Google for.

Please forgive me the OT but this list has always been a good first step
for the right directions.

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Re: qbittorrent freezes, ioctl sign-extension ioctl ffffffff8004667e

2012-07-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:52:50 +0200
Jens Schweikhardt schwe...@schweikhardt.net wrote:

 hello, world\n
 
 is anybody else seeing this? On a fresh 9-STABLE/amd64 as of July 7,
 with all ports compiled from scratch. Qbittorrent (2.9.11) freezes
 after about 10 to 20 seconds, reacts to mouse clicks only after a
 minute or so; the window isn't redrawn when it was obscured by other
 windows and /var/log/messages has this to say:
 
 Jul  7 11:09:56 hal9000 kernel: WARNING pid 89448 (qbittorrent):
 ioctl sign-extension ioctl 8004667e Jul  7 11:10:50 hal9000
 kernel: WARNING pid 89448 (qbittorrent): ioctl sign-extension ioctl
 8004667e Jul  7 11:11:21 hal9000 last message repeated 38
 times
 
 There's no way out other than sending two SIGINT (CTRL-C) to kill
 qbittorrent.
 
 It looks like this is similar or even the same problem as in
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-June/057360.html
 If it was ever fixed, then it looks like it reappeared.
 
 Regards,
 
   Jens

Just upgrade to net-p2p/libtorrent-rasterbar-16 and
libtorrent-rasterbar-16-python.

This should fix it.
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Re: qbittorrent freezes, ioctl sign-extension ioctl ffffffff8004667e [SOLVED]

2012-07-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 00:00:20 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 
 
 On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, RW wrote:
 
  On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:52:50 +0200
  Jens Schweikhardt wrote:
 
  hello, world\n
 
  is anybody else seeing this? On a fresh 9-STABLE/amd64 as of July
  7, with all ports compiled from scratch. Qbittorrent (2.9.11)
  freezes after about 10 to 20 seconds, reacts to mouse clicks only
  after a minute or so; the window isn't redrawn when it was
  obscured by other windows and ...
 
  I tried it a few weeks ago on 8.3. I found that it locks-up just
  after the first torrent is added, or if it's started with a torrent
  already loaded.
 mosy probably not FreeBSD related. just a buggy program
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Sorry for my last post. Spoke too soon. I found the problem!.

It lies inside devel/boost-libs.

After you issue make patch, apply this to
work/boost_1_48_0/boost/asio/detail/io_control.hpp. 
I couldn't manage to produce a proper diff file.

*** 46,52 
// Get the name of the IO control command.
ioctl_cmd_type name() const
{
- return static_castint(FIONBIO);
+ return static_castioctl_cmd_type(FIONBIO);


*** 96,102 
// Get the name of the IO control command.
ioctl_cmd_type name() const
{
- return static_castint(FIONREAD);
+ return static_castioctl_cmd_type(FIONREAD);
}

-Rebuild/reinstall devel/boost-libs
-Rebuild/reinstall net-p2p/libtorrent-rasterbar-16
-Rebuild/reinstall net-p2p/libtorrent-rasterbar-16-python
-Rebuild/reinstall net-p2p/qbittorrent

No more lockups and kernel messages!! :) after I did this, qbittorrent
has been up flawlessly for almost 2 hours.

I don't know how to get in touch with the boost-lib port mantainer so
he/she can fix the port file patch-boost_asio-ioctl to add these
changes.

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Re: qbittorrent freezes, ioctl sign-extension ioctl ffffffff8004667e [SOLVED]

2012-07-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:35:01 -0700
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:

 On 9 July 2012 15:26, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
  I don't know how to get in touch with the boost-lib port mantainer
  so he/she can fix the port file patch-boost_asio-ioctl to add these
  changes.
 
 The best way to contact a maintainer for something like this is to
 submit a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html
 
 

Done it! Thanks

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Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-15 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 15 June 2012 09:49:49 Robert Bonomi wrote:
  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 14 22:56:16 2012
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:45 -0500
  From: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
  Cc: Steve Bertrand steve.bertr...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Uptime [OT]
  
  FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10
  CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386
  
  Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha.
  We're slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing
  anyone.
  
  I wonder if the technician who compiled that kernel considered how long
  it would run
 
 Heh. check out -this- one:
 
  % uname -a
  **  ***  ** *** Kernel #0: Thu Mar 20
 16:40:01 CST 1997 :/usr/src/sys/compile/LOCAL 
 i386
 
 The build date _is_ accurate, the hardware it's running on is old enough to
 vote.   wry grin
 
 It's publicly accessible on the Internet,
 
 It's not quite as ridiculous as it looks, the (limited) apps running on it
 _are_ up-to-date.


Hi;

This is from a colleague Alex Moura at our brazilian bsd list.

   FreeBSD helm 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Dec 13 16:19:46
   BRST 2000
   11:47AM  up 3532 days,  3:43, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
   
   3532 days before now Friday, July 13, 2001
   
   9 years, 8 months, 3 days, 16 hours

ref. http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-chat@freebsd.org/msg02477.html

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Re: (no subject)

2012-06-04 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 04 June 2012 11:12:01 Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download
  videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies in the
  internet, where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you
  should's watch it.
 
 Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media
 player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff,
 brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have
 dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited
 means of user friendlyness.

Flashblocker and downloadhelper plugins for FF. Work like a charm !!

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Re: (no subject)

2012-06-01 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 01 June 2012 03:29:40 Thomas Mueller wrote:
 
 I ddon't see any advantage in FreeBSD 8.x or earlier.

Well, I still see complains about a few quirks in 9 here in the list, 
specially after certain src updates.

Re:Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148
Re: kern/168190: [pf] panic when using pf and route-to (maybe: bad fragment 
handling?)
Re: ULE/sched issues on stable/9 - why isn't preemption occurring?
Etc ..

To me, something like pf (specially route-to!) is critical and for the moment, 
I wouldn't touch my rock-solid-down-to-the-micro-second perfect production 
firewall 8-STABLE server for nothing, if the aim is such a role.

I think that distribution set size is just not a very strong argument.

OTOH, if the aim is just experimenting, that's another story.

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Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3

2012-05-23 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 23 May 2012 18:49:06 Jerry McAllister wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have been searching through questions and forums for information
 on dual booting FreeBSD 8.3 on a machine with Windows 7 already on it.
 
 My problem is that the posts seem to go around in circles and be
 contradictory.  I am not sure which to believe.
 
 My new machine has two disk drives.  Windows 7 is on ad0 and I want
 to put FreeBSD 8.3 on ad1, leaving W7 as is.   So, I don't even have
 to shrink a primary slice to do this.
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 jerry
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Since each system is going to be on different physical drives, why don't you 
make things easy for you and just use the BIOS boot menu to choose which drive 
to boot from?

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Re: Dual Boot Windows 7 FreeBSd 8.3

2012-05-23 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 23 May 2012 19:41:22 Jerry McAllister wrote:
  Since each system is going to be on different physical drives, why don't
  you make things easy for you and just use the BIOS boot menu to choose
  which drive to boot from?
 
 That surely seems the hard way.Why interrupt the boot and go
 in to the BIOS every time when that is all provided for in the
 boot structure?
 
 jerry

Because if you want to switch systems you're gonna have to reboot anyway!

The boot manager is nothing but an automatic interruption of the boot process 
to give you a chance to press a key for the system you want to boot from.

But you're right. Pressing 3 keys instead of one or none IS the hard way.

just my 0,02...

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 06 May 2012 10:34:12 Carmel wrote:
 On Sun, 6 May 2012 08:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
 
 Robert Bonomi articulated:
 Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote;
 
  In the Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64, if I do
  not have a floppy drive, is it safe to comment out this entry?
  
  # Floppy drives
  device  fdc
 
 Definitely, yes.
 
  Are there any other entries that I could eliminate if I do not have a
  floppy drive?
  
device atapifd
 
 obviouly.  :)
 
 Thanks, I had not noticed that one.
 
  Also, according the the webcamd documentation, I need to have this
  in the loader.conf file.
  
  webcamd requires the cuse4bsd(3) kernel module. To load the driver
  
  as a module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5):
  cuse4bsd_load=YES
  
  Is there a way that I can simply compile it into the kernel? Would a:
  
  device   cuse4bsd# Required by webcamd
  
  entry in the kernel file work? I cannot find any documentation on
  that.
 
 The simplest approach for this is 'try it and find out'.
 
 If you use the traditional kernel-huild 'Configure/make depend/make'
 sequence, to rebuild the kernel -only-,  its a matter of one minute or
 so on a _slow_ (486-class) machine.
 
 you'll either get a Configure error, a linker error, or it 'just
 works'.
 
 OK, now you lost me. I use the following basic sequence:
 
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installworld
 
 I am sorry, but I am not fully comprehending what commands you want me
 to enter.

Carmel;

You don't need to build the whole world if you only need a kernel rebuild.

just edit your kernel file and issue:

cd /usr/src
make kernel KERNCONF=CARMEL

the 2nd line builds AND installs the new kernel.

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Re: Music production on FreeBSD

2012-04-07 Thread Mario Lobo
On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music
 primarily on FreeBSD?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Tony


Man, that has been my dream for a good while!

Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And FBSD itself 
has lots of issues with MIDI.

Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional sound boards.

I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which is try to 
port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. If I can manage to do 
that, then I believe the rest will fall on my lap by gravity. 

I hope I don't blow up my desktop.

I'm eager to read the replies to the OP.

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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 09 March 2012 01:56:25 Bruno Comerci wrote:
 Hi guys.
 
 
 Instead of wasting your time and man power, why wont you join to the
 ReactOS project? It would be more beneficial to the internet community and
 to the users around the world who wants a free OS with similar looking and
 functions than Windows, if you just throw away your FreeBSD and join
 forces with the ReactOS team to accelerate their process.
 
 Actually there isnt any single free OS that can be fully trusted, but
 ReactOS seems to be that one that we all are wating for.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 Common world's citizen who dont have money to pay Windows and dont trust
 Linux and any other Unix-based OS.

Hey Man (man ???) !

Your mom should be running after you all over the house, with your hot milk 
bottle and pacifier in hand, because you skipped your nap time.

Please, have mercy on her and go right up to bed.

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Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
 Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest,
 
 How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet
 
 http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif
 --
 Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam)

Yes! humor.

I think open-sore is really cute, intelligent and funny. More so than 
winblows or micro$hit.

Even with nicknames we get better results!.

I believe we could all profit from being able to laugh at that too.

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Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:

[troll snipper]

  . perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit
  driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be
  used on FreeBSD. All of this can go into a kernel module so that if all
  one uses is native FreeBSD drivers made for FreeBSDs normal driver API,
  they won't need to load this subsystem.
 
 You see, you could have just proposed this in the first place instead of
 provoking a flame fest, ranting about, mostly imagined, lack of
 documentation, GUI configuration tools and giving condescending lectures
 on programmer productivity.  Oh well...

Right on, Nikola !

But David's paragraph I left in is a real dream for me. It is basicaly 
what's keeping me from using FBSD as my audio workstation.

I have an Echo Gina3D card there is simply no FBSD driver for it. But there 
are Mac drivers from Echo!.

I even too a shot at downloading the framework/API from Echo (windows :( )
but it is just way above me.

A colegue from Japan had written a driver for an old Echo Gina 20 bit which I 
managed to compile and load (believe it or not) but it was for FBSD 5. I tried 
to compile it on my FBSD 8 STABLE but it issues too much errors that (again) 
is beyond my capacity.

But I'm a stubborn one, so I'll try to keep learning from my mistakes. Maybe 
one day a new driver for FBSD will be born.

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Re: Waay OT Now... FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 02 January 2012 20:25:22 Da Rock wrote:
 On 01/03/12 08:10, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
  [troll snipper]
  
  . perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit
  driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be
  used on FreeBSD. All of this can go into a kernel module so that if all
  one uses is native FreeBSD drivers made for FreeBSDs normal driver API,
  they won't need to load this subsystem.
  
  You see, you could have just proposed this in the first place instead of
  provoking a flame fest, ranting about, mostly imagined, lack of
  documentation, GUI configuration tools and giving condescending lectures
  on programmer productivity.  Oh well...
  
  Right on, Nikola !
  
  But David's paragraph I left in is a real dream for me. It is basicaly
  what's keeping me from using FBSD as my audio workstation.
  
  I have an Echo Gina3D card there is simply no FBSD driver for it. But
  there are Mac drivers from Echo!.
  
  I even too a shot at downloading the framework/API from Echo (windows :(
  ) but it is just way above me.
  
  A colegue from Japan had written a driver for an old Echo Gina 20 bit
  which I managed to compile and load (believe it or not) but it was for
  FBSD 5. I tried to compile it on my FBSD 8 STABLE but it issues too much
  errors that (again) is beyond my capacity.
  
  But I'm a stubborn one, so I'll try to keep learning from my mistakes.
  Maybe one day a new driver for FBSD will be born.
 
 Completely off thread now... but I've had success using FBSD as an audio
 workstation for a recording job.
 

Humm ... Drivers off-topic in a Kernel Internal documentation discussion?
It may be a little off-topic from the OP, but waay OT? Please, allow me to 
disagree.


 Used Audacity, Rosegarden, hydrogen and Jack with a Yamaha usb
 soundboard. Midi was an issue though, and I used a linux workstation
 with Jack using net backend. That was over a year ago, and now I believe
 there is a jack midi interface for FBSD.
 
 Works well, but your hardware sounds like it does differ greatly, sorry.

Yeah! I've done that too (all on FBSD). But I need it to work with a bit 
higher end cards like the Gina3D for pro-work.

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Re: [OT] but concerns all of us (FINAL - moving to freebsd-chat)

2011-11-18 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 18 November 2011 13:13:33 C. P. Ghost wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
  My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about
  this and those who think too little of it.
  
  I am really worried about this:
  
  http://americancensorship.org/
 
 Mario, I couldn't agree more and it's a very important topic.
 But PLEASE let's take this thread to freebsd-chat@. It *really*
 doesn't belong here.
 
 Thanks,
 -cpghost.

I'll re-post there. I wasn't subscribed to chat.

Again, my apologies..

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Re: [OT] but concerns all of us [put down your coffee before reading]

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 17 November 2011 06:08:05 Nomen Nescio wrote:
  If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root
  servers
 

 Thanks, I spewed coffee out of my nose when I read this.

I hope the coffee wasn't too hot. I was just trying to convey meaning, not to 
be orthographically right.

Just in case you're not a totally alienated individual, this means that I 
should not worry about the issue, right?

By the way, I was at home, long past my working hours when I saw the article 
and posted the message.

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Re: [OT] but concerns all of us

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 17 November 2011 09:05:32 Jerry wrote:
 Sorry, but I totally disagree with you assessment of this bill. First of
 all, because I have not fully read it and secondly because I think it
 may in fact have merit.
 
 There are all ready too many scumbags who are illegally ripping off the
 works of others using a multitude of false pretenses. A developer,
 writer or what ever title you choose to assign to said individual has a
 right to protect his/her/their property.
 
 If you want to use a copyrighted or patented item you either get legal
 permission and pay a fee if required. Any attempt to use said item(s)
 without properly obtained the legal right to first is nothing more than
 common thrift and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
 The Internet was envisioned as a means of exchanging information, not
 pilfering it; although sadly enough it has rapidly developed into just
 that medium supported by socialists/fascists who would rather pilfer the
 works of another rather than obtaining the right to use said works.

My assessment is still being built so thanks for sharing your thoughts on 
this, Jerry

The basis for my worries is the fact that historically, every time governments 
want to control everything, they begin with a step that seems honest and fair 
to everybody but soon enough, this is extented to whatever they think is right 
for them. 

By controlling the root servers, they could blacklist anything.

Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright?

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Re: [OT] but concerns all of us

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 17 November 2011 11:02:39 Rod Person wrote:
 
 Then once a new law is on the books, the officials find ways to use the
 laws in way the were not intended as in the case of the Patriot Act
 were it's use is over 90 some percent of the time has nothing to to
 with terrorism.
 

This is EXACTLY what I meant by worry in my original post.

Thanks for putting it into words.

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Re: [OT] but concerns all of us

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 17 November 2011 17:28:39 Dave U. Random wrote:
 They already p0wned the root servers. Look at the Microsoft case. The
 federales went into private server farms and set up their own boxes. You
 think anything goes through American backbones and the guys in black suits
 with no sense of humor don't know about it, and can't reroute it or DOS it
 or make funny things happen already? Wake up and smell the Constitution
 burning.

Yes but it isn't legal   YET!
 
  Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright?
 
 There are too many laws now to protect anything.

I believe that this whole discussion boils down to one comment I just saw on 
ZDNET:

Yes, our government is trying to censor the web. So is the UK.

Our corrupt officials have sold our government to the highest bidder, and it 
is now operated by the rich for the rich... and they fear an American 
Spring(**) like the ones now being celebrated throughout the middle east. 
After crushing the citizens under heel for so long, they see what open 
communications have brought in Arabian countries and fear the same here. Thus, 
the land of the free and it's free speech must become a thing of the past so 
that the rich can continue to get richer and the poor may be oppressed more 
easily.

Perhaps I am becoming a cynical old man as I watch them disassemble my 
constitution, but these are sad times : sad times indeed.

Regards,
Jon  

(**) which is already happening !!


I think that this is what they want to stop. People are becoming aware of 
things, not through official statements, PBS, the State of the Union Address 
or mainstream media, but through each other! Fast and uncensored ! And from 
any point of the planet. Facts that would never come to public awareness 
otherwise.And this knowledge is empowering people to take to the streets 
knowing exactly why.

Copyright, laws, intellectual property and legal jargons are nothing but smoke 
and mirrors.


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[OT] but concerns all of us

2011-11-16 Thread Mario Lobo
My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about this 
and those who think too little of it.

I am really worried about this:

http://americancensorship.org/

If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root servers, we 
will loose the last free medium of expression and info exchange that is not 
owned by a corporation or anybody.

I don't know if I should be worried or not, but if my worries are founded and 
this comes to pass, as far as I can see, it will be the end of this great tool 
as we know it today.

There is a petition going on here:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/

There are a lot of Americans on this list that have a lot more power than the 
rest of us to change this. A LOT of people from all over the world is signing 
this petition.

I hope at least some don't judge me to be over dramatic here but this 
situation sounds very much so.

I hope that most of you (if not all) replicates this and that I don't get 
scalded for this post.

I can only hope 

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Re: Solution for school lab just a thought

2011-10-31 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 31 October 2011 10:56:44 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
  You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the
  pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the putty client installed.
  Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system.
  Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the
  desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to
  teach students to be system administrators.
 
 Humm Interesting...
 In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do
 access
 windows system.
 In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is
 the solution.
 Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation,
 projects... from time to time
 the problem is the software...
 What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this
 teaching???
 
 I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and
 resolve them.
 the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get
 answers,
 so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several
 program
 languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript
 printing (cups),
 some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot,
 dvdstyler)
 can make the difference. They can download small videos from their
 phones, and
 produce digital media, share it on DVDs...  the home lesson is send via
 email (everyone
 has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write
 now...
 
 Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and
 so produce
 software for the community.  They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD
 servers,
 share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and
 so on...
 
 There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy
 from the
 students as long as they produce good software..
 
 What is the other alternative???  finish high school and than look for a
 job???
 XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who
 can
 succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my
 boys...
 They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule..
 
 Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years???
 
 Just a thought...
 
 Sergio
 

Picture an arrow whistling through the wind, undisturbed, and hitting the 
bullseye dead in its perfect center,

That's what your thought is to me, Sergio.

+10 !

Thank you.

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Problem with samba 35

2011-10-05 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

System: FBSD 8.2 STABLE amd64

2011/10/05 11:26:25.632002,  0] smbd/close.c:296(close_remove_share_mode)
smbd[40272]:   close_remove_share_mode: Could not get share mode lock for file 


I keep getting these messages and the system at the store (win) that uses the 
shares keep getting all sorts of problems problems.

Tried everything I could think of without success !!!

This didn't happen with samba 3.0.36.

Can someone help me, please ??

Thanks 

Src  Ports updated on 04/10/2011

smb.conf

[global]
netbios name = LosanGW
workgroup = LOSAN
server string = LOSAN Inet Server
log file = /var/log/samba-log.%m
max log size = 50
max xmit = 65535
domain master = yes
local master = yes
preferred master = yes
; os level = 65
name resolve order = host wins bcast
   security = share
   ; deadtime = 15
   socket options = TCP_NODELAY
   dns proxy = No
hosts allow = 10.10.10., 127.
interfaces = 10.10.10.1
share modes = yes
lock directory = /usr/local/etc/samba/locks
[deposito]
comment = Losan
path = /deposito
read only = No
guest ok = Yes
public = yes

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VPN problem

2011-09-09 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I've been having this problem establishing a VPN behind a FreeBSD 8-STABLE 
with pf.

I have this scenario:


home LAN  FBSD+pf home  INTERNET --- FBSD+pf work --- work LAN
 MPD VPN server

nat rules on FBSD+pf home:


 nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535
 # nat on $ext_if from any to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535


obs- it makes no difference which nat rule I use. The problem persists.


These are the first 5 pf rules on FBSD+pf home:

  # pass quick all
  pass quick on lo0 all

  # my whole home lan is free
  pass in quick on $int_if from $int_if:network to any
  
  #--- Allow networks to see themselves and dns
  pass quick from $int_if:network to $int_if:network
  
  #--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere
  pass in quick log on $int_if proto gre from any to any keep state
  pass in quick log on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port pptp flags S/SA 
keep state



On any attempt to connect to the FBSD+pf work VPN Server from home LAN, 
I get this (even if I uncomment  pass quick all):

#mpd5
Multi-link PPP daemon for FreeBSD
 
process 98799 started, version 5.5 (root@Papi 16:55  3-Sep-2011)
CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005
web: listening on 127.0.0.1 5006
[B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created
[L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event
[L1] LCP: Open event
[L1] LCP: state change Initial -- Starting
[L1] LCP: LayerStart
[L1] PPTP call successful
[L1] Link: UP event
[L1] LCP: Up event
[L1] LCP: state change Starting -- Req-Sent
[L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1
[L1]   ACFCOMP
[L1]   PROTOCOMP
[L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
[L1]   MRU 1486
[L1]   MAGICNUM 2d08ae01

[snip..]

[L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #10
[L1]   ACFCOMP
[L1]   PROTOCOMP
[L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
[L1]   MRU 1486
[L1]   MAGICNUM 2d08ae01
[L1] LCP: parameter negotiation failed
[L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent -- Stopped
[L1] LCP: LayerFinish
[L1] PPTP call terminated
[L1] Link: DOWN event
[L1] LCP: Close event
[L1] LCP: state change Stopped -- Closed
[L1] LCP: Down event
[L1] LCP: state change Closed -- Initial


BUT, on the 9th or 10th attempt, without touching any setting anywhere, the 
VPN MAY BE established. out of nothing ! Machines (Windows, Unix, whatever) 
behind both FBSD+pfs ALSO have the same problem when trying to close VPN 
tunnels to outside sites.

Sometimes, opening an ssh session from my workstation to FBSD+pf work may 
help in establishing the VPN.

The FBSD+pf work VPN Server is working fine. My colleagues can connect to it 
from their homes (NATted cable modems or 3G modems) without problems. I am the 
only one behind a FBSD+pf router. 


I installed MPD5 on FBSD+pf home, and copied mpd.conf from my home workstation 
to it. 


Without touching a single setting on mpd.conf, the VPN is established 
from FBSD+pf home (as a client) to FBSD+pf work WITHOUT any hiccups on EVERY 
SINGLE attempt! even I bring it up/down 200 times!

And yet, if the FBSD+pf combo is out of the way, (i.e. no NAT!, as is the case 
of FBSD+pf home as a client) or if I let my cable modem do the NAT/routing, 
the problem is GONE!.


FreeBSD work 
FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 22 14:50:42 BRT 2011 amd64

FreeBSD Home
FreeBSD FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Wed May 18 16:53:26 BRT 2011 i386

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

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VPN problem

2011-09-09 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I've been having this problem closing a VPN behind a FreeBSD 8-STABLE with pf.

I have this scenario:

home LAN  FBSD+pf home  INTERNET --- FBSD+pf work --- work LAN
 MPD VPN server

 nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535
 # nat on $ext_if from any to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535

obs- it makes no difference which nat rule I use. The problem persists.

These are the first 5 pf rules on FBSD+pf home:

  # pass quick all
  pass quick on lo0 all

  # my whole home lan is free
  pass in quick on $int_if from $int_if:network to any
  
  #--- Allow networks to see themselves and dns
  pass quick from $int_if:network to $int_if:network
  
  #--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere
  pass in quick log on $int_if proto gre from any to any keep state
  pass in quick log on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port pptp flags S/SA 
keep state



On any attempt to conect to the FBSD+pf work VPN Server from home LAN, 
I get this (even if I uncomment  pass quick all):

#mpd5
Multi-link PPP daemon for FreeBSD
 
process 98799 started, version 5.5 (root@Papi 16:55  3-Sep-2011)
CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005
web: listening on 127.0.0.1 5006
[B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created
[L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event
[L1] LCP: Open event
[L1] LCP: state change Initial -- Starting
[L1] LCP: LayerStart
[L1] PPTP call successful
[L1] Link: UP event
[L1] LCP: Up event
[L1] LCP: state change Starting -- Req-Sent
[L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1
[L1]   ACFCOMP
[L1]   PROTOCOMP
[L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
[L1]   MRU 1486
[L1]   MAGICNUM 2d08ae01

[snip..]

[L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #10
[L1]   ACFCOMP
[L1]   PROTOCOMP
[L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
[L1]   MRU 1486
[L1]   MAGICNUM 2d08ae01
[L1] LCP: parameter negotiation failed
[L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent -- Stopped
[L1] LCP: LayerFinish
[L1] PPTP call terminated
[L1] Link: DOWN event
[L1] LCP: Close event
[L1] LCP: state change Stopped -- Closed
[L1] LCP: Down event
[L1] LCP: state change Closed -- Initial

BUT, on the 9th or 10th attempt, without touching any setting anywhere, the 
VPN MAY BE established. out of nothing ! Machines (Windows, unix, whatever) 
behind both FBSD+pfs ALSO have the same problem when trying to close VPN 
tunnels to outside sites.

The FBSD+pf work VPN Server is working fine. My coleagues can conect to it 
from their homes (NATted cable modems or 3G modems) without problems. I am the 
only one behind a FBSD+pf router. 

I installed MPD5 on FBSD+pf home, and copied mpd.conf from my home workstation 
to it. 

Without touching a single setting on mpd.conf, the VPN is established 
from FBSD+pf home (as a client) to FBSD+pf work WITHOUT any hickups on EVERY 
SINGLE attempt! even I bring it up/down 200 times!


And yet, if the FBSD+pf combo is out of the way, (i.e. no NAT!, as is the case 
of FBSD+pf home as a client) or if I let my cable modem do the NAT/routing, 
the problem is GONE!.

FreeBSD work 
FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 22 14:50:42 BRT 2011 amd64

FreeBSD Home
FreeBSD FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Wed May 18 16:53:26 BRT 2011 i386

Any suggestions?

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Re: VPN problem

2011-09-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 09 September 2011 18:11:47 Torsten Kersandt wrote:
 HI Mario
 I don't know what the experts are suggesting but I use a table for the VPN
 addresses
 To allow nat but block them frm using the server as gateway (use as
 default gateway disabled in windows)
 I add the rules dynamically using mpd if-up and if-down scripts
 
 All I have in my rules is GRE pass anywhere and nat table to and from
 where ever
 
 Regards
 Torsten
 

Thanks for replying, Torsten but the problem is way before all these things 
that you mentioned. I'm wildly guessing here but the problem seems to be 
inside the NAT mechanism of PF. At least the working/not working situations 
point to that direction.

If I don't find a solution to that soon I am gonna have no choice but to 
switch to IPFW, which I would not like to do because the queuing mechanisms of 
pf are extremely useful and handy to my networks.

By the way, I also do each item that you mentioned in your post.

The funny thing is that there was a time (maybe a couple csups ago) that this 
problem didn't occur, and I am totally unable to say which csup brought this 
issue in. Remeber there are 3 FBSDs involved here.

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 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd...@freebsd.org] On
 Behalf Of Mario Lobo
 Sent: 09 September 2011 20:46
 To: freebsd...@freebsd.org
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: VPN problem
 
 Hi;
 
 I've been having this problem establishing a VPN behind a FreeBSD 8-STABLE
 with pf.
 
 I have this scenario:
 
 
 home LAN  FBSD+pf home  INTERNET --- FBSD+pf work --- work LAN
  MPD VPN server
 
 nat rules on FBSD+pf home:
 
 
  nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535
  # nat on $ext_if from any to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535
 
 
 obs- it makes no difference which nat rule I use. The problem persists.
 
 
 These are the first 5 pf rules on FBSD+pf home:
 
   # pass quick all
   pass quick on lo0 all
 
   # my whole home lan is free
   pass in quick on $int_if from $int_if:network to any
 
   #--- Allow networks to see themselves and dns
   pass quick from $int_if:network to $int_if:network
 
   #--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere
   pass in quick log on $int_if proto gre from any to any keep state
   pass in quick log on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port pptp flags
 S/SA
 keep state
 
 
 
 On any attempt to connect to the FBSD+pf work VPN Server from home LAN,
 I get this (even if I uncomment  pass quick all):
 
 #mpd5
 Multi-link PPP daemon for FreeBSD
 
 process 98799 started, version 5.5 (root@Papi 16:55  3-Sep-2011)
 CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005
 web: listening on 127.0.0.1 5006
 [B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created
 [L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event
 [L1] LCP: Open event
 [L1] LCP: state change Initial -- Starting
 [L1] LCP: LayerStart
 [L1] PPTP call successful
 [L1] Link: UP event
 [L1] LCP: Up event
 [L1] LCP: state change Starting -- Req-Sent
 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1
 [L1]   ACFCOMP
 [L1]   PROTOCOMP
 [L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
 [L1]   MRU 1486
 [L1]   MAGICNUM 2d08ae01
 
 [snip..]
 
 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #10
 [L1]   ACFCOMP
 [L1]   PROTOCOMP
 [L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
 [L1]   MRU 1486
 [L1]   MAGICNUM 2d08ae01
 [L1] LCP: parameter negotiation failed
 [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent -- Stopped
 [L1] LCP: LayerFinish
 [L1] PPTP call terminated
 [L1] Link: DOWN event
 [L1] LCP: Close event
 [L1] LCP: state change Stopped -- Closed
 [L1] LCP: Down event
 [L1] LCP: state change Closed -- Initial
 
 
 BUT, on the 9th or 10th attempt, without touching any setting anywhere, the
 VPN MAY BE established. out of nothing ! Machines (Windows, Unix, whatever)
 behind both FBSD+pfs ALSO have the same problem when trying to close VPN
 tunnels to outside sites.
 
 Sometimes, opening an ssh session from my workstation to FBSD+pf work may
 help in establishing the VPN.
 
 The FBSD+pf work VPN Server is working fine. My colleagues can connect to
 it
 
 from their homes (NATted cable modems or 3G modems) without problems. I am
 the
 only one behind a FBSD+pf router.
 
 
 I installed MPD5 on FBSD+pf home, and copied mpd.conf from my home
 workstation
 to it.
 
 
 Without touching a single setting on mpd.conf, the VPN is established
 from FBSD+pf home (as a client) to FBSD+pf work WITHOUT any hiccups on
 EVERY
 
 SINGLE attempt! even I bring it up/down 200 times!
 
 And yet, if the FBSD+pf combo is out of the way, (i.e. no NAT!, as is the
 case
 of FBSD+pf home as a client) or if I let my cable modem do the NAT/routing,
 the problem is GONE!.
 
 
 FreeBSD work
 FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 22 14:50:42 BRT 2011 amd64
 
 FreeBSD Home
 FreeBSD FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Wed May 18 16:53:26 BRT 2011 i386
 
 Any suggestions?
 
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Re: VPN problem

2011-09-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 09 September 2011 19:03:27 Torsten Kersandt wrote:
 Hi
 TUN and NG connections are not present at the time you start your server
 and rules for such interfaces are not applicable to PF

You're right, but on the client end that is trying to conect to that server 
behind a pf firewall, nat rules DO apply, and on my tests I can see for sure 
that when I take NAT out of the picture, the VPN tunnel is established.


 
 The is there the if up and if down functions of MPD come into place unless
 you use IP Address/network specific rules.
 One server I have in the if-up script:
 
 /etc/rc.d/pf resync
 /sbin/pfctl -t if_pptp -T add ${4}

I do all that! in fact even go beyond and use the linkup/down scripts to 
create a log on the server of which user(s) is(are) conected to the VPN, from 
which public IP, with which ng interface, at what time/date they logged in and
and logged out.

 
 And it works perfectly fine including on the secondary MPD instance (bound
 to IP address) allowing usage as default gateway functions.
 

Like I said before:

The FBSD+pf work VPN Server is working fine. My colleagues can connect to
it from their homes (NATted cable modems or 3G modems) without problems.



 Other than that I think you will have to go down the bridging line.
 I may be corrected bu others :-)
 
 Regards
 Torsten
 

Thanks again, Torsten. I think this issue seems to lie deeper that just pf 
rules and link scripts

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 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd...@freebsd.org] On
 Behalf Of Mario Lobo
 Sent: 09 September 2011 22:53
 To: freebsd...@freebsd.org
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: VPN problem
 
 On Friday 09 September 2011 18:11:47 Torsten Kersandt wrote:
  HI Mario
  I don't know what the experts are suggesting but I use a table for the
  VPN addresses
  To allow nat but block them frm using the server as gateway (use as
  default gateway disabled in windows)
  I add the rules dynamically using mpd if-up and if-down scripts
  
  All I have in my rules is GRE pass anywhere and nat table to and from
  where ever
  
  Regards
  Torsten
 
 Thanks for replying, Torsten but the problem is way before all these things
 that you mentioned. I'm wildly guessing here but the problem seems to be
 inside the NAT mechanism of PF. At least the working/not working situations
 point to that direction.
 
 If I don't find a solution to that soon I am gonna have no choice but to
 switch to IPFW, which I would not like to do because the queuing mechanisms
 of
 pf are extremely useful and handy to my networks.
 
 By the way, I also do each item that you mentioned in your post.
 
 The funny thing is that there was a time (maybe a couple csups ago) that
 this
 problem didn't occur, and I am totally unable to say which csup brought
 this
 
 issue in. Remeber there are 3 FBSDs involved here.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: owner-freebsd...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd...@freebsd.org]
 
 On
 
  Behalf Of Mario Lobo
  Sent: 09 September 2011 20:46
  To: freebsd...@freebsd.org
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: VPN problem
  
  Hi;
  
  I've been having this problem establishing a VPN behind a FreeBSD
  8-STABLE with pf.
  
  I have this scenario:
  
  
  home LAN  FBSD+pf home  INTERNET --- FBSD+pf work --- work LAN
  
   MPD VPN server
  
  nat rules on FBSD+pf home:
   nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535
   # nat on $ext_if from any to any - ($ext_if) port 1024:65535
  
  obs- it makes no difference which nat rule I use. The problem persists.
  
  These are the first 5 pf rules on FBSD+pf home:
# pass quick all
pass quick on lo0 all

# my whole home lan is free
pass in quick on $int_if from $int_if:network to any

#--- Allow networks to see themselves and dns
pass quick from $int_if:network to $int_if:network

#--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere
pass in quick log on $int_if proto gre from any to any keep state
pass in quick log on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port pptp flags
  
  S/SA
  keep state
  
  
  
  On any attempt to connect to the FBSD+pf work VPN Server from home LAN,
  I get this (even if I uncomment  pass quick all):
  
  #mpd5
  Multi-link PPP daemon for FreeBSD
  
  process 98799 started, version 5.5 (root@Papi 16:55  3-Sep-2011)
  CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005
  web: listening on 127.0.0.1 5006
  [B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created
  [L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event
  [L1] LCP: Open event
  [L1] LCP: state change Initial -- Starting
  [L1] LCP: LayerStart
  [L1] PPTP call successful
  [L1] Link: UP event
  [L1] LCP: Up event
  [L1] LCP: state change Starting -- Req-Sent
  [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1
  [L1]   ACFCOMP
  [L1]   PROTOCOMP
  [L1]   ACCMAP 0x000a
  [L1

Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-27 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 25 August 2011 01:39:54 Polytropon wrote:
  Last, suppose you issue a general invitation for people to go over to
  your house for a free dinner, with food that you know (because you
  helped in preparing it!) in your heart and taste to be excellent, well
  prepared  and nutritious. And all of a sudden I storm at your door and
  yell for all the guests that already know what you know about the food,
  without even tasting anything, that a very good and knowledgeable
  friend of mine told me that the kitchen is as dirty as hell, the food
  tastes terrible and that all the guests will get diarrhea and probably
  die if they eat anything.
  
  What would you do?
 
 Wow, what a nice analogy! =^_^=

Thanks Man. :)

I can almost feel sorry for poor Evan. I think he doesn't know what he's 
missing here.


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Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-27 Thread Mario Lobo
On Saturday 27 August 2011 16:58:06 Frank Shute wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:56:16PM -0500, Evan Busch wrote:

[Snip..]

  
  If so, it's just them trying to cover up the inherently defensive and
  reactionary nature of their comments.
 
 They're inherently defensive and reactionary because you're trolling.
 
  Would they send such an email on a business list?
 
 Who cares? It's not a business list.
 
   You can predict that everywhere. Just go to any halfway
   specialized setting and make claims about something not
   meeting your requirements
  
  I've never had this problem when the claims have been stated
  professionally -- only here.
 
 OK, so you'll be able to provide links then?
 
 Thought not.


Well, I don't know about everybody else but I don't believe that the aim of 
this gentleman's OP was about being constructive, at all.

Like somebody had already said here, he was just a kid that threw a rock on a 
wasp's nest, didn't have legs to run fast enough, and now he is crying all 
over the place because he got stung.

So, to exhaust everything I have to say on this subject, I will try to 
translate the best I can, two popular sayings here in my country. 
I hope I can make their meaning get through.

To his criticism on documentation:

To a good 'understander', a half-word is enough.

To his deliriously vague critique on FreeBSD in general:

The dogs always bark. But the caravan steadily moves on.

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Re: to come from Linux to FreeBSD

2011-08-24 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 24 August 2011 08:48:30 Julian H. Stacey wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Reference:
  From:   Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl
  Date:   Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:24:37 +0200
  Message-id: 4e54d165.7090...@nagual.nl
 
 Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
  Op 24-8-2011 10:41, Matthew Seaman schreef:
   Virtualization is actually a bit of a tricky thing with FreeBSD.
   There's Jail, which is excellent -- very light weight, but it only
   works with FreeBSD guests. There's VirtualBox, but that runs the guest
   OSes as a standard client application and it tends to be slow
  
  VirtualBox is absolutely not slow. At least not on Solaris nor on
  windows7 boxes. The VB support from FreeBSD is not that good imho. It is
  a lot easier to get it going under linux, windows or solaris. I know,
  fbsd packages do not exist. I wonder why...
  

I don't know how you guys have been installing Virtualbox on FreeBSD but I 
have been using it since 3.x.x, Always compiling it from ports (using 4.1.2 
now), almost without glitch. The almost is on account of a long gone bug 
with nvidia driver versions 1.7.something. Nothing to do with VB. After that, 
no glitches anymore.

As how it runs on my 8-STABLE amd64, I've been able to compare it to vmware 
and hiper-v and as far as running the same things on the 3 of them, to me, 
VBox outperformed both in terms of speed and responsiveness. All 3 are pretty 
stable and hiper-v needs a monster machine to run, contrary to VB and VW. 

I have linux (fedora, centos and ubuntu), OS-x (hackintosh and SL), Os/2, 
Android, Xp (32/64),Win 2003 and win7 (32/64) vms, all jumping from VB version 
to VB version, all without a single glitch, and all performing better with 
each new version. I went as far as installing a background VB Xp vm on my 
firewall (which is a small FBSD 8-STABLE i386 ) for application testing 
purposes.

I can't say how VB runs on huge environments because I don't have access to 
any.

As for support for VB in general, just stay tunned to 

vbox-users-commun...@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vbox-users-community

and

vbox-...@virtualbox.org
http://vbox.innotek.de/mailman/listinfo/vbox-dev

and

http://forums.virtualbox.org/

I'm sure anyone will find all questions answered.

and specific to FreeBSD. Bernhard Froehlich has been doing a wonderful job, 
constantly updating the VB ports. Check out

https://svn.bluelife.at/index.cgi/blueports 

under emulators.


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Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-24 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi Evan;

Please allow me some comments.

On Wednesday 24 August 2011 23:02:18 Evan Busch wrote:
 I didn't expect this much response.

That's a bit naive and shows how much you don't know this list.
 
  Some interesting stuff:

Here, this is mostly the case. Even the trolls are so.

 On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Test Rat ttse...@gmail.com wrote:
  There is an ongoing discussion on arch@ about this.
  
   http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html
 
 This is an excellent discussion. Thank you.
 

You bet! Full of technical details and concrete arguments.


 On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Dave Pooser
 
 dave-free...@pooserville.com wrote:
  My own take:
  
  1) I really don't see the Handbook as all that great. It's
 
 Every professional documentarian I've encountered agrees with you.
 It's inconsistent, wordy, and has no concept of the order of
 introduction of its concepts. No professional software package would
 ship with documentation this bad. The multiple grammatical errors only
 enhance the sense of its fundamentally confused nature as a document.
 

Well, I think the handbook has got its name wrong. To me, it should have been 
called handybook. What you're saying sounds more like you wanted the handbook 
to be a usage tutorial, which it's NOT what it is supposed to be. If you put 
micro$oft's docs into this picture, prepare you wallet for tons of books. And 
in microsoft's case, it has an obligation to take you by the hand, and IT 
DOESN'T !.


I've been using FBSD since 2.2.8. When I first heard of it, I first did my 
homework: Googled for its history, its architecture, its inner workings, 
compatibility, etc.. (all of these are IN the handbook, by the way!) and 
opinions/usage by others. When I went to the handbook for the first time (not 
straight to it but by chance while googling for some solution), I was 
already a user for a good while. I already knew what FreeBSD was about, so 
whatever I found on the handbook was already familiar to me!.

The only time I resort straight to the handbook is to the hardware 
compatibility list whenever I'm thinking of buying something new for the 
server/desktop, but BEFORE I actually buy it.

For everything else, man pages and the lists are my lord and my shepard.

I think Polytropon put it very well:

In most cases, documentation requires you to have a minimal
clue of what you're doing. There's terminology you simply
have to know, and concepts to understand in order to use
the documentation.


 
 As far as people proving my point about the BSD community being
 reactionary:
 
 (1)

[snip..]

Let's ponder over this in a rational and cold way.

First: You never mentioned in your post for how long you have been using 
FreeBSD or if you have even used it at all, which its obvious simply by lack 
of specific details, so your critique looses the by experience tag from the 
start. That's a no-no for this list, which will not measure distances to help 
people that already tried to help themselves.

Second, throughout your post, it sounds like your thoughts sprung up, not from 
your own quest and research, but from somebody (Ron) who is completely pro-
Linux and pro-Windows, and against FreeBSD (hummm...) and that is the 
biggest UNIX fanatic I know(100x hummm...). And Ron's millage with FreeBSD is 
never mentioned also, so that kinda drops the critique's credibility tag to 
the floor. 

Last, suppose you issue a general invitation for people to go over to your 
house for a free dinner, with food that you know (because you helped in 
preparing it!) in your heart and taste to be excellent, well prepared  and 
nutritious. And all of a sudden I storm at your door and yell for all the 
guests that already know what you know about the food, without even tasting 
anything, that a very good and knowledgeable friend of mine told me that the 
kitchen is as dirty as hell, the food tastes terrible and that all the guests 
will get diarrhea and probably die if they eat anything.

What would you do?

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Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-20 Thread Mario Lobo
On Saturday 20 August 2011 19:47:07 Fish Kungfu wrote:
 Meanwhile, the OP has run away giggling like a juvenile who just threw a
 rock at a hornets nest.
 

You bet! The OP (and Rob) were probably just bored, but Vadim Goncharov was 
definetly NOT! (Thanks Test Rat!)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html.

That got me worried. It does provide a global picture as to why some of OP's 
bad feelings about the future of FreeBSD can pop up.

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Re: High interrupt rate

2011-08-10 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 08 August 2011 21:30:41 b. f. wrote:

 I'll wait for your views on those before disabling polling on the kernel
 and hz=100.

 It looks like your interrupt rate, while probably higher than needed,
 is not unexpectedly high for your configuration.  But you can lower it
 if you want to do so.
 
 You are using a system before the introduction of the new eventtimer
 code.  If you use 9.x, that has the new code and some other
 timer-related improvements, and you are not performing polling, then
 you can achieve a large reduction in the number of timer interrupts
 when the system isn't busy. You can still achieve a reduction on 8.x,
 but the reduction usually won't be as large as on 9.x under similar
 conditions.
 
 To reduce timer interrupts on an idle system running 8.x or 9.x, if
 you do not need to poll (most systems do not), remove  DEVICE_POLLING
 from your kernel, and lower kern.hz to a suitable value -- 100 or 250,
 for example. For many workloads, a lower value is not only adequate,
 but may also be better in some ways.
 
 Also, you may want to consider using your TSC as the system
 timecounter, because it is usually more efficient to do so.  This may
 not work for SMP, because if there are multiple TSCs on your system,
 they may not be synchronized.  In 9.x, there is a test for
 synchronization, and the TSCs are preferred to the ACPI-safe timer if
 they satisfy this test and meet some other requirements.  In 8.x, the
 user has to tell the system that it is safe to use the TSCs by adding:
 
 kern.timecounter.smp_tsc=1
 
 to /boot/loader.conf.  If you are not putting your cores into the C3
 state, then you could try setting this via the loader command line,
 booting, and then seeing if the kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.quality is
 positive, kern.timecounter.hardware is TSC, and everything is working
 as expected.  If the results are satisfactory, then you could add the
 above entry to /boot/loader.conf.  But it would be better to do this
 on 9.x, where there are some added safeguards.
 
 b.

b.;

Something really odd happened. After I sent you the data, while waiting for 
your reply, I changed Lusca cache to use 64M ram instead of the 256M it had. 
It was 1/8th of ram so I just decided to give it less.

Well, I swear to you this was the ONLY thing I did!. Since then, the system 
has been running at around 97% idle 98% of the time! During load hours, there 
are only short(1s) spikes of 75%ish idle, far from each other. And web 
performance is actually a little better! And the overall response of the 
system improved. That's why I waited a couple of days to reply so I could 
confirm this behavior.

I don't know. Maybe with more ram, lusca was spawning to many threads and thus 
loading the CPU but this is just a guess. I will take lusca memory back to 256 
for the sake of checking but I want to find out if this new found estability 
is there to stay so I'll wait a little longer to do that.

Your suggestions will be kept handy just in case.

Thanks for everything.

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Re: High interrupt rate

2011-08-07 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 07 August 2011 18:34:27 b. f. wrote:
  I know 75% idle is not bad but this machine, when not under load on a
  saturday night like today, used to be at around 98% idle 99% of the
  time. Now its is at 72% idle 99.9% of the time. It has been like this
  all day.
  
  The only things with a high interrupt rate are
  
  cpu0: timer 46922025   2000
  cpu1: timer 46918117   1999
  
  What could be causing this?
 
 I don't know that 2 timer interrupts per-cpu, per kern.hz, is
 altogether unexpected for some configurations, under some conditions.
 What happens if you boot with kern.hz=100 in /boot/loader.conf, or
 set via the loader command line?  What happens if you remove the
 DEVICE_POLLING option from your kernel (and _not_ just disable polling
 per-device)?  What is the output from sysctl kern.timecounter
 kern.eventtimer?
 
 b.

Thanks b. !

[~]sysctl kern.timecounter
kern.timecounter.tick: 1
kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(-100) ACPI-safe(850) i8254(0) dummy(-100)
kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-safe
kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.mask: 65535
kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.counter: 39201
kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182
kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.quality: 0
kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.mask: 16777215

   
kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.counter: 1055460  

   
kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.frequency: 3579545

   
kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.quality: 850  

   
kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.mask: 4294967295

   
kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.counter: 1200011080 

   
kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 1995401152   

   
kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.quality: -100   

   
kern.timecounter.smp_tsc: 0 

   
kern.timecounter.invariant_tsc: 1  

[~]sysctl kern.hz
kern.hz: 1000

[~]sysctl kern.eventtimer
sysctl: unknown oid 'kern.eventtimer'

I'll wait for your views on those before disabling polling on the kernel and 
hz=100.


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High interrupt rate

2011-08-06 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi there;

My system is a FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 13 17:32:44 BRT 2011 i386

I have 4 nics. sis0, rl0, vr0 and dc0. The last three are in polling mode 
(which I did to see if it would decrease the int amount).

The int rate for sis0 is low.

vmstat -i reports:

interrupt  total   rate
irq6: fdc0 1  0
irq14: ata0   163039  6
irq15: ata1   29  0
irq19: sis0 vr0   688525 29
irq20: ohci0  27  0
irq23: ehci0   2  0
cpu0: timer 46922025   2000
cpu1: timer 46918117   1999
Total   94691765   4036


But top reports:

last pid:  5163;  load averages:  0.04,  0.09,  0.08

   
up 0+06:30:13  20:13:59
144 processes: 3 running, 121 sleeping, 20 waiting
CPU:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  1.2% system, 24.0% interrupt, 74.8% idle
Mem: 42M Active, 154M Inact, 116M Wired, 96K Cache, 112M Buf, 1667M Free
Swap: 4000M Total, 4000M Free

  PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE   C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
   11 root  2 171 ki31 0K16K CPU00 706:33 103.37% idle
   12 root 20 -32- 0K   160K WAIT1  67:16 97.46% intr
0 root 10 -680 0K72K -   1   1:34  2.98% kernel

Systat reports:

1 usersLoad  0.12  0.11  0.08  Aug  6 20:15

Mem:KBREALVIRTUAL   VN PAGER   SWAP PAGER
Tot   Share  TotShareFree   in   out in   out
Act   560965076   194524 9784 1706152  count
All  1139006624  234149213732  pages
Proc:Interrupts
  r   p   d   s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Fltcow4042 total
 73  6150   10  405   44  30k zfodfdc0 
irq6
  ozfod   ata0 
irq14
 1.5%Sys  25.0%Intr  0.0%User  0.0%Nice 73.5%Idle%ozfod   ata1 
irq15
|||||||||||   daefr44 sis0 vr0 
1
= prcfr   ohci0 20
 5 dtbuf  totfr   ehci0 23
Namei Name-cache   Dir-cache60 desvn  react  1999 cpu0: 
time
   Callshits   %hits   % 27121 numvn  pdwak  1999 cpu1: 
time
   943 frevn  pdpgs
  intrn
Disks   ad0   ad1   cd0 pass0  118476 wire
KB/t   0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00   43796 act
tps   0 0 0 0  157764 inact
MB/s   0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  96 cache
%busy 0 0 0 0 1706056 free
   114880 buf 


I know 75% idle is not bad but this machine, when not under load on a saturday 
night like today, used to be at around 98% idle 99% of the time. Now its is at 
72% idle 99.9% of the time. It has been like this all day.

The only things with a high interrupt rate are

cpu0: timer 46922025   2000
cpu1: timer 46918117   1999

What could be causing this?

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Re: more information

2011-08-05 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 05 August 2011 19:47:17 Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:37:30PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote:
  If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play
  nice, will you?  Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel qualified
  to take this task on myself.  It would be nice though if someone took
  such offense to a post they would simply ignore it or contact OP
  offline.  Seem 50% of the content here is b!itching.  Now sometimes,
  and perhaps most times, it serves as a source of entertainment for me.
  Others it's just annoying  - such as now.  With all this brain power
  and apparently spare time, can anyone tell me how to get back all the
  money I've lost in the market over the last 3 years?  Or, perhaps in
  the last 3 days?  I would like some help with that!
 
 Regarding IQ tests . . . there's not much point in comparing
 measurements.  I've taken half a dozen or so IQ tests over the years.
 Among them, all but two have landed between 135 and 168, depending on the
 specific test, the scale used, what I had for breakfast that morning, my
 mood, the sort of uses to which I've put my brain in the year or two
 immediately preceding the test, my age, and numerous other factors.
 Those other two tests -- one of them came in under 100, and the other was
 off the charts to the tune of +30 or more, probably a lot more
 according to the guy scoring it.  Add to that an SAT score from way back
 when the SATs actually measured aptitude and were considered suitable
 measures of IQ to qualify people for Mensa membership, with every single
 score I've gotten differing notably from all the rest, and the result
 seems obvious: Whatever each of you has for an IQ score from some test
 years ago, chances are good that if you took a test again you would get a
 wildly different result.
 
 . . . and let's not forget that deficiencies in some areas can drag your
 score down, while particular aptitudes can in others can drag it up,
 skewing the overall results in a way that might set unrealistic
 expectations one way or the other for judging general intelligence.  Good
 at spacial relations, but bad at abstract logic?  Maybe you'll end up
 confusing the hell out of people who think you're brilliant half the time
 and rock stupid the other half.
 
 As for your money lost to the market, you're going to have a tough time
 getting someone to tell you a foolproof way to get it back that does not
 involve time travel.  If I had a pretty clear view of your investment
 patterns over the years that led to these losses, though, I could
 probably give you some halfway decent advice to avoid taking similar
 losses in the future.  Unfortunately, it's much more difficult to predict
 future (safe) money-makers than to point out where someone is just
 gambling with market trends that represent aberrations rather than the
 consistent positive growth that they think it really represents, with a
 basic grasp of some driving economic principles.
 
 In general, my first piece of advice would be that you should never
 invest in something whose success you do not actually understand at the
 level of microeconomic principles.  Next, consider the political
 landscape that might skew the effect of those principles.
 
 . . . and if you can do that, you should also be able to develop a pretty
 good intuition for dealing with security threats for your FreeBSD
 systems, because a lot of those threats are essentially the result of
 economic and political circumstances inspiring people to act according to
 their natures.
 
 Voila.  By a long and circuitous route, I brought it back to the subject
 of FreeBSD.  Do I get a cookie?

Yeah, Chad! and crispy one indeed.

This IQ thing is really boring. Luckily, I never had to take an IQ test but I 
know that some people who took them didn't have an option. It was either it or 
the job. But actually, I'm not even curious about it. It is much more 
appealing to me to spend time studying and learning new things about FreeBSD 
for instance, than to spend time, as short as it may be, trying to find out 
how big my brain d**k is. A lazy bum with an IQ of 2000 is worthless while an 
energetic jack ass with an IQ of -100 at least can be used to pull a chariot 
or something.

IQ tests can't point out character and diligence. Psychological profiles may 
do that but that's for another troll.


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Re: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius

2011-08-01 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 01 August 2011 15:52:30 Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:28:29PM -0300 I heard the voice of
 
 Mario Lobo, and lo! it spake thus:
  Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my
  phenom 955 doesn't fit.
 
 Not that it helps you now, but the 955 _is_ perfectly compatible with
 AM3.  It's only the initial 920 and 940 that were AM2-only.

I was just following this:

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/CPU-6-socket-am2-plus-phenom-ii-
compatibility-alert.aspx
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Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius

2011-07-31 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi to all

In my desktop machine, I had an AM2+ ASROCK mobo with Phenom II 955 BE that 
showed each core temperature perfectly under FBSD 8-STABLE, via 
dev.cpu.x.temp. amdtemp.ko loaded.

Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my phenom 955 
doesn't fit. So I got an ASUS M4A88T-V EVO with a Phenom II 975 BE. 

Funny thing. An AM3 phenom II fits on an AM2 board but an AM3 board doesn't 
accept an AM2/AM2+ phenom II :(.

Anyway, now, under the very same system, it shows 0 degrees on dev.cpu.x.temp 
for all cores.

I've been looking through k8temp and amdtemp src code. I am definitely not 
sure of this but I believe something might have happened to those:

From k8temp.h

K10_THERM_REG  0xa4 
K10_THERMTRIP_REG  0xe4
K10_CURTMP(val)(((val)  21)  0xfff)
K10_THERMTRIP(val) ((val  1)  1)

From amdtemp.c

/*
 * Register control (K8 family)
 */
#define AMDTEMP_REG0F   0xe4
#define AMDTEMP_REG_SELSENSOR   0x40
#define AMDTEMP_REG_SELCORE 0x04

/*
 * Register control (K10  K11) family
 */
#define AMDTEMP_REG 0xa4


Output of k8temp -dn:

CPUID: Vendor: AuthenticAMD, 0x100f43: Model=04 Family=f+1 Stepping=3
Advanced Power Management=0x1f9
   Temperature sensor: Yes
 Frequency ID control: No
   Voltage ID control: No
THERMTRIP support: Yes
   HW Thermal control: Yes
   SW Thermal control: Yes
   100MHz multipliers: Yes
   HW P-State control: Yes
TSC Invariant: Yes
Temp=c0fef
ThermTrip=1fc00c30
0

I keep a small win7 partition to test little things like this and see if the 
same thing happens there, and it doesn't, so I concluded that the sensors are 
there and are working.

One thing is worth noting though. I have used a free gadget that shows 
activity/temp for each core. It worked fine with the previous MB/CPU.That ALSO 
stopped working with this new MB. Like FBSD, it shows 0 degrees for any core 
too, although it correctly displays each core load.

The only windows tool that correctly shows the temperature are the ASUS tools 
that came with the mobo.

Other than that, everything is working fine! The only thing I had to fix was 
the fstab ada location.

I know this is not a big thing but I got accustomed to keeping an eye on those 
temperatures.

I have googled for a few days now searching for Thermal register address or 
offsets for the Phenom II 975 BE, or anything related to this problem and 
found nothing. Every search on AMD site was fruitless. I could not find a 
single bit of tech info on this processor there, or any other tech info for 
that matter.


Would any one have any pointers/clues/suggestions on this?

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Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-19 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 19 July 2011 03:18:41 Konrad Heuer wrote:
 
 But: Neither BSD nor Linux will ever have chance to conquere the desktop,
 despite of KDE, Gnome or anything else. In business environments there is
 no alternative to Windows. Microsoft successfully created Active Directory
 from DNS, LDAP and Kerberos with an easy-to-manage interface 
 
 Konrad Heuer

Err ... just a little correction here.

Microsoft copied its AD deck from Novell Directory Services - NDS, shuffled 
the cards, added a few bits and pieces here and there and called it its own, 
having some similarities with NDS, as MS has ALWAYS been doing since DOS 
1.0.

I remember very well when the ease of management with NDS was well 
estabilished by NETWARE 6.xx (it showed up first in 5.xx) and delighting 
network admins who managed Novell environments (as I was doing at the time), 
when MS announced its, ahaam, revolutionary active directory services. 

NDS - ADS. Like I said, just card shuffling.

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Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-19 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 19 July 2011 10:06:22 Jerry wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:33:01 -0300
 
 Mario Lobo articulated:
  First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to
  disturb the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed
  it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good
  reading, not only because of the issue at hand, but also because of
  the elegance and intelligence of the arguments presented by each of
  them, and because it was delightful to notice how their cultural
  backgrounds influence their presentations, to the point where even
  when using harsh words didn't carry offense.
 
 Ah, how sweet. You have just made my Christmas Card list. I apologize
 if you are a non-Christian.
 
 Let me clarify that statement. I am not apologizing because you might
 not be a Christian, but rather for offering to place you on my
 Christmas Card list if you aren't. 

Well, no apologies needed!. I am truly honored to be in your Christmas card 
list, even if I was not a Christian, though that doesn't necessarily means 
that I am a Christian, at least in the pagan sense of the word (i.e. - what 
non-believers/atheists/whatever think a Christian is), or even in the 
non-pagan sense.

Anyway, consider your offer mutual.

 I thought I had better make that
 clear less someone with an IQ of a cockroach claims I was attacking
 non-Christians.

Gook thinking! So, apologies accepted, just in case a non-Christian moron 
shows up. 

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Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 18 July 2011 19:04:55 Outback Dingo wrote:
 
 Sorry Guys.. I just had to nail down the Subject Topic and correct
 it
 


YEAH    Thanks!

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Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;


First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to disturb the 
debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I 
saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because 
of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and intelligence of the 
arguments presented by each of them, and because it was delightful to notice 
how their cultural backgrounds influence their presentations, to the point 
where even when using harsh words didn't carry offense.

I firmly believe that this is why FreeBSD exists. Because it is backed up by 
people of this caliber, whether as users or developers. Even the trolls and 
flame wars here (not in NO way implying that this thread was one!) make more 
intelligent and enjoyable reading than in any other forum I go.

In my humble user opinion, that is why FreeBSD is more than relevant. To me, 
at least, is indispensable, both as a tool and as a reference for every other 
OS in existence. I am not arguing here that my preference is better than 
anybody else's. FreeBSD itself is wide enough to fit a huge number of them. 
This universe expands even more if you add the other BSDs.

This is just a thank-you note and for sharing a simple permanent feeling of 
relief for having made a good choice.


The only offense that keeps coming back is the post's subject.   

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On Monday 18 July 2011 17:31:41 Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:46 -0400, Jerry wrote:
  On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200
  
  Polytropon articulated:
   Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't
   be able to view the digital pictures you took with a
   camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided
   to use a proprietary image format without any documentation,
   as you should only use the software supplied by the
   manufacturer. Dropping program version X and advertising
   version Y with the new models of the digital camera,
   and everything you'll have is a bunch of files nobody
   can read anymore. You can also see this in computer
   media, although with a lower half-life period.
   
   If you want to get into the future, rely on established,
   open and free standards.
   
   In my opinion, there is no alternative. Everything else
   would just increase costs (e. g. migration costs). But
   there are fields of use where costs simply doesn't matter
   (as it seems).
  
  I apologize for cherry picking this; however, your analysis is so
  faulty that I was force to. You camera analogy is simply absurd.
 
 I wanted it to be understood as an analogy.
 
  You were aware that Kodak dropped the C22 development process decades
  ago which effectively make all films designed for that process useless.
  It also spelled then end of GAF, but that is another story. KODACHROME
  Film was discontinues after a 74 year run. Actually, it was created due
  to Kodak's inability to properly stabilize the layers in the color film
  it was trying to create; but that is another story. I still have
  several collector's grade cameras that used films such as the 116 and
  616 designations. These films were discontinued in 1984.
 
 You're talking hardware (film material) here, not software.
 
 Your analogy illustrates how technology does disappear. It
 gets more and more complicated working with film material,
 as digital cameras allow you to do all the things that you
 could do with expensive cameras only in the past. Even
 professionals have switched (of course to expensive and
 therefor professional camera models), both for photographing
 and for movies.
 
 In software, see planned obsolescense and digital medieval
 times (digital middleage) and movements that want to keep
 witnesses of our today's culture.
 
 This means you will _always_ have to judge: Need a short-term
 solution that is the best for a short term, or need a long-
 term solution that is good (or even just good enough) for
 a longer period of time.
 
 Sloppily engineered and halfway done solutions can - by means
 of marketing - be sold for the first kind of products quite
 easily, and constantness is not an important topic for the
 main markets (home consumers).
 
  Should I sue
  Kodak, or any other manufacturer for their failure to continue support
  for these devices? When wan the last time you purchased a new Polaroid?
  News Flash: It was discontinued. Now, can you guess why? Perhaps you
  have noticed people using cameras that don't apparently use any film.
  You might want to investigate that further. You will find that newer
  technology supersedes and eventually obsoletes older technology.
 
 It's _always_ that way. Interestingly, some oldest technology
 still prevails. There are still books made of paper even though
 there are alternatives. In the last year, more paper was used
 and printed than in the year before, and the trend

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to disturb the 
debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I 
saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because 
of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and intelligence of the 
arguments presented by each of them, and because it was delightful to notice 
how their cultural backgrounds influence their presentations, to the point 
where even when using harsh words didn't carry offense.

I firmly believe that this is why FreeBSD exists. Because it is backed up by 
people of this caliber, whether as users or developers. Even the trolls and 
flame wars here (not in NO way implying that this thread was one!) make more 
intelligent and enjoyable reading than in any other forum I go.

In my humble user opinion, that is why FreeBSD is more than relevant. To me, 
at least, is indispensable, both as a tool and as a reference for every other 
OS in existence. I am not arguing here that my preference is better than 
anybody else's. FreeBSD itself is wide enough to fit a huge number of them. 
This universe expands even more if you add the other BSDs.

This is just a thank-you note and for sharing a simple permanent feeling of 
relief for having made a good choice.

The only offense that keeps coming back is the post's subject.   

Best regards,

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On Monday 18 July 2011 17:31:41 Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:46 -0400, Jerry wrote:
  On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200
  
  Polytropon articulated:
   Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't
   be able to view the digital pictures you took with a
   camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided
   to use a proprietary image format without any documentation,
   as you should only use the software supplied by the
   manufacturer. Dropping program version X and advertising
   version Y with the new models of the digital camera,
   and everything you'll have is a bunch of files nobody
   can read anymore. You can also see this in computer
   media, although with a lower half-life period.
   
   If you want to get into the future, rely on established,
   open and free standards.
   
   In my opinion, there is no alternative. Everything else
   would just increase costs (e. g. migration costs). But
   there are fields of use where costs simply doesn't matter
   (as it seems).
  
  I apologize for cherry picking this; however, your analysis is so
  faulty that I was force to. You camera analogy is simply absurd.
 
 I wanted it to be understood as an analogy.
 
  You were aware that Kodak dropped the C22 development process decades
  ago which effectively make all films designed for that process useless.
  It also spelled then end of GAF, but that is another story. KODACHROME
  Film was discontinues after a 74 year run. Actually, it was created due
  to Kodak's inability to properly stabilize the layers in the color film
  it was trying to create; but that is another story. I still have
  several collector's grade cameras that used films such as the 116 and
  616 designations. These films were discontinued in 1984.
 
 You're talking hardware (film material) here, not software.
 
 Your analogy illustrates how technology does disappear. It
 gets more and more complicated working with film material,
 as digital cameras allow you to do all the things that you
 could do with expensive cameras only in the past. Even
 professionals have switched (of course to expensive and
 therefor professional camera models), both for photographing
 and for movies.
 
 In software, see planned obsolescense and digital medieval
 times (digital middleage) and movements that want to keep
 witnesses of our today's culture.
 
 This means you will _always_ have to judge: Need a short-term
 solution that is the best for a short term, or need a long-
 term solution that is good (or even just good enough) for
 a longer period of time.
 
 Sloppily engineered and halfway done solutions can - by means
 of marketing - be sold for the first kind of products quite
 easily, and constantness is not an important topic for the
 main markets (home consumers).
 
  Should I sue
  Kodak, or any other manufacturer for their failure to continue support
  for these devices? When wan the last time you purchased a new Polaroid?
  News Flash: It was discontinued. Now, can you guess why? Perhaps you
  have noticed people using cameras that don't apparently use any film.
  You might want to investigate that further. You will find that newer
  technology supersedes and eventually obsoletes older technology.
 
 It's _always_ that way. Interestingly, some oldest technology
 still prevails. There are still books made of paper even though
 there are alternatives. In the last year, more paper was used
 and printed than in the year before, and the trend continues

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergström wrote:
 In the specific case about Gnome - really if you care so much then you
 can submit patches and contribute.  If nobody is willing to do the work
 (scratch the itch) then ultimately it really doesn't matter.
 
 I hope gnome does do this..   Maybe then more
 people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better ;)
 

YES !! I hope so too.

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Re: help

2011-07-14 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 14 July 2011 20:06:06 Erman Zülfükaroğlu wrote:
 Hi , I try to mount free bsd to Windows sharing folder.
 mount_smbs -I 10.0.0.x  /10.0.0.x/share folder name /mnt/mount folder
 
 but i can't.
 mount_smbfs=unable open to connection syserr=connection refused
 
 samba installed.
 
 Please help ,
 
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Which windows version? 
Is the folder shared properly? Win 7 is pretty rough on sharing folders.

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Problem with PF reply-to

2011-07-13 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I have the following scenario.

FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 19 19:53:59 BRT 2011 
i386

I want to be able to connect to any of the 2 external IPs this machine has.

### pf.conf excerpt

ext_if1 = sis0 (1M link. default gateway)
ext_if2 = rl0  (2M link)
aln_if  = dc0  (Internal LAN)

ext_gw1 = A.A.A.A 
ext_gw2 = B.B.B.B

my_ext_ip1 = a.a.a.a
my_ext_ip2 = b.b.b.b


  nat on $ext_if1 from any to any - $my_ext_ip1 port 1024:65535
  nat on $ext_if2 from any to any - $my_ext_ip2 port 1024:65535

1) - # balance the load

  pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from \
  $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out probability 70%
 
  pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from \
  $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out 

2) - # allow ssh on ext_ifs

a)pass in log quick on $ext_if1 inet proto tcp from any to any port $SshPort \
  flags S/SA modulate state (max 30, source-track rule, max-src-nodes 10,\
  max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, max-src-conn-rate 2/60, overload banned)

b)pass in log quick on $ext_if2 reply-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) inet proto tcp \
  from any to any port $SshPort flags S/SA keep state (max 30, source-track \
  rule, max-src-nodes 10, max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, max-src-conn-rate\
  2/60, overload banned) ( RULE 8 )


[snip][snip]..


3) -

  pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any
  pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to any

  Also tried:

  pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to any
  pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any

  block log all ( RULE 163 )


### end of pf.conf excerpt


Everything under 1) works fine.

Under 2), a) works, b) not working.

When I try to connect to $SshPort through the 2M link (b.b.b.b). I connect to 
the server, but the return packet neither obeys the reply-to on rule b), nor 
matches any of the pass outs under 3), and goes straight to the block rule.
as you can see bellow.


[$] tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 host 187.113.99.63 (my home IP) 


Packet arrives and matches rule b)/8 and should create a state;

00:00:00.00 rule 8/0(match): pass in on rl0: 187.113.99.63.25806  
b.b.b.b.22: [|tcp]

but...

00:00:00.000108 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.8947  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
00:00:03.57 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.65060  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
00:00:03.199931 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..20213  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
00:00:03.199618 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..19748  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
00:00:03.200044 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..1600  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
00:00:03.199767 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..45513  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
00:00:06.205048 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..17925  
187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]

it tries to go back to me on the wrong interface (sis0 and NOT rl0), 
wrong ip (a.a.a.a and NOT b.b.b.b), and from several wrong port numbers, not 
port 22.

Questions:

1) sshd is listening on *.22. I know that the default gateway is not on rl0 
but isn't that what reply-to is supposed to beat? If I understood correctly, 
wasn't the reply-to supposed to make the packet go back throught the specified 
($ext_if2 $ext_gw2)?

2) Wasn't a state created when the pass rule b)/8 matched? if so, where is it?

Where am I doing wrong here?

Thanks for any hints.

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Re: Problem with PF reply-to [SOLVED]

2011-07-13 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 13 July 2011 10:26:59 Mario Lobo wrote:
 Hi;
 
 I have the following scenario.
 
 FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 19 19:53:59 BRT 2011
 i386
 
 I want to be able to connect to any of the 2 external IPs this machine has.
 
 ### pf.conf excerpt
 
 ext_if1 = sis0 (1M link. default gateway)
 ext_if2 = rl0  (2M link)
 aln_if  = dc0  (Internal LAN)
 
 ext_gw1 = A.A.A.A
 ext_gw2 = B.B.B.B
 
 my_ext_ip1 = a.a.a.a
 my_ext_ip2 = b.b.b.b
 
 
   nat on $ext_if1 from any to any - $my_ext_ip1 port 1024:65535
   nat on $ext_if2 from any to any - $my_ext_ip2 port 1024:65535
 
 1) - # balance the load
 
   pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from \
   $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out probability 70%
 
   pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from \
   $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out
 
 2) - # allow ssh on ext_ifs
 
 a)pass in log quick on $ext_if1 inet proto tcp from any to any port
 $SshPort \ flags S/SA modulate state (max 30, source-track rule,
 max-src-nodes 10,\ max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, max-src-conn-rate
 2/60, overload banned)
 
 b)pass in log quick on $ext_if2 reply-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) inet proto tcp
 \ from any to any port $SshPort flags S/SA keep state (max 30,
 source-track \ rule, max-src-nodes 10, max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2,
 max-src-conn-rate\ 2/60, overload banned) ( RULE 8 )
 
 
 [snip][snip]..
 
 
 3) -
 
   pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to
 any pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1
 to any
 
   Also tried:
 
   pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to
 any pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2
 to any
 
   block log all ( RULE 163 )
 
 
 ### end of pf.conf excerpt
 
 
 Everything under 1) works fine.
 
 Under 2), a) works, b) not working.
 
 When I try to connect to $SshPort through the 2M link (b.b.b.b). I connect
 to the server, but the return packet neither obeys the reply-to on rule
 b), nor matches any of the pass outs under 3), and goes straight to the
 block rule. as you can see bellow.
 
 
 [$] tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 host 187.113.99.63 (my home IP)
 
 
 Packet arrives and matches rule b)/8 and should create a state;
 
 00:00:00.00 rule 8/0(match): pass in on rl0: 187.113.99.63.25806 
 b.b.b.b.22: [|tcp]
 
 but...
 
 00:00:00.000108 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.8947 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 00:00:03.57 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.65060 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 00:00:03.199931 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..20213 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 00:00:03.199618 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..19748 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 00:00:03.200044 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..1600 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 00:00:03.199767 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..45513 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 00:00:06.205048 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..17925 
 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp]
 
 it tries to go back to me on the wrong interface (sis0 and NOT rl0),
 wrong ip (a.a.a.a and NOT b.b.b.b), and from several wrong port numbers,
 not port 22.
 
 Questions:
 
 1) sshd is listening on *.22. I know that the default gateway is not on rl0
 but isn't that what reply-to is supposed to beat? If I understood
 correctly, wasn't the reply-to supposed to make the packet go back
 throught the specified ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2)?
 
 2) Wasn't a state created when the pass rule b)/8 matched? if so, where is
 it?
 
 Where am I doing wrong here?
 
 Thanks for any hints.


Never mind !

I solved the problem after finding this very enlightening document:

http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/06/source-based-routing-with-freebsd-using-
multiple-routing-table/

I followed it and it all works beautifully now.

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 13 June 2011 21:14:05 Rob wrote:
 On 6/9/11 4:55 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:49:37 Rob wrote:
  On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
  I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
  weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
  of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
  ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
  see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
  packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
  
  I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but
  I got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed
  in order to build virtualbox.
  
  So, my question is 2-fold:
  1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
  still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing
  the packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
  
  2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
  libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
  threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
  3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what
  do I need to install?
  
  Rob
  
  You need to rebuild your kernel with
  
  
  
  options   COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
  
  
  
  included.
  
  And as per the port's error message:
  
  cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart
  
  I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
  anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
  packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the
  stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do?
  
 Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
  
  libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?
  
  Rob
  
  To remain with the same kernel you installed, you must install the source
  tree from the same CD/DVD you used for installation.
  
  You will have to run sysinstal and go to
  
  Configure  Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD
  
  then
  
  Distributions   Install additional distribution sets
  
  then mark
  
  [ ]  src   Sources for everything
  
  Choose the CDROM as installation media. After that you'll have all the
  sources on your HD and can proceed to the compilation of the 32 libs.
  
  If the sources are from the same CD you installed the system, they will
  be in sync with your kernel. No upgrade issues.
 
 What is that command doing though?  It's building what from src?  What
 is the output of build32?  I assume it's not a kernel.
 

No. Its JUST the 32 bit libraries.

make build32 builds the 32bit libraries. It simply outputs the compilation 
process.

make install32 installs the 32bit libraries. Same thing but for the install 
process.



 Also, do you know the difference between pre-built packages on the
 freebsd ftp server in packages-8.2-release vs packages-8-stable?
 

Well, IF you installed the source tree from the SAME cd  which you installed 
the FreeBSD you have now, there won't be any problems. You said you want to 
keep the stock kernel you installed so I assume that you haven't updated 
anything from the internet. You MUST install the source tree from the same 
DVD/CD from where you installed your running kernel!

The diference is that the packages are meant to run on their respective 
version. I believe that packages that don't rely on a specific thing of one 
version should run without problems on both. But this is not normal or even 
needed at all, specially because it is so easy to bring everything uptodate to 
the same version.


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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:49:37 Rob wrote:
 On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
  I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
  weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
  of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
  ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
  see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
  packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
  
  I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
  got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
  order to build virtualbox.
  
  So, my question is 2-fold:
  1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
  still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
  packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
  
  2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
  libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
  threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
  3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
  I need to install?
  
  Rob
  
  You need to rebuild your kernel with
  
  
  
  options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
  
  
  
  included.
  
  And as per the port's error message:
  
  cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart
 
 I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
 anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
 packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the
 stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do?
   Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
 libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?
 
 Rob

To remain with the same kernel you installed, you must install the source tree 
from the same CD/DVD you used for installation.

You will have to run sysinstal and go to 

Configure  Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD

then

Distributions   Install additional distribution sets

then mark

[ ]  src   Sources for everything

Choose the CDROM as installation media. After that you'll have all the sources 
on your HD and can proceed to the compilation of the 32 libs.

If the sources are from the same CD you installed the system, they will be in 
sync with your kernel. No upgrade issues.
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit

2011-06-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
 I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
 weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
 of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
 ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
 see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
 packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
 
 I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
 got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
 order to build virtualbox.
 
 So, my question is 2-fold:
 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
 still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
 packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
 
 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
 libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
 threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
 I need to install?
 
 Rob

You need to rebuild your kernel with

options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries

included.

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
 I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
 weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
 of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
 ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
 see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
 packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
 
 I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
 got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
 order to build virtualbox.
 
 So, my question is 2-fold:
 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
 still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
 packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
 
 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
 libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
 threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
 I need to install?
 
 Rob



You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries



included.

And as per the port's error message:

cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit

2011-06-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 06 June 2011 22:31:30 Rob wrote:
 On 6/6/11 8:13 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
  I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
  weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
  of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
  ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
  see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
  packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
  
  I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
  got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
  order to build virtualbox.
  
  So, my question is 2-fold:
  1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
  still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
  packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
  
  2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
  libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
  threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
  3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
  I need to install?
  
  Rob
  
  You need to rebuild your kernel with
  
  options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
  
  included.
 
 I'm running the stock 8.2 kernel.  Is that option compiled into the
 kernel?  Where do I find the options that are enabled in the stock kernel?

I believe the stock kernel follows the GENERIC conf file which DOES include 
the COMPAT_FREEBSD32 option but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe someone on the list 
could confirm that.
 
 Also, does COMPAT_FREEBSD32 mean I don't need the 32-bit libs for
 compilation, or that the kernel will run binaries compiled for 32-bit
 systems?  If the later, then I'll still need to install the 32-bit
 version of the libraries in order to build, right?
 
 Rob

You do need to compile the libraries as per my follow up post.

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Re: Funny thing with portsclean

2011-05-30 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 30 May 2011 01:20:42 Robert Simmons wrote:
 Sorry, I didn't mention why.  You need use -DD if you don't want that
 to happen, and you want it to follow installed packages as well.
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A !! It was my bad then.

Thanks for the previous explanation also, Robert.

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Re: editors/openoffice.org-3

2011-05-30 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 30 May 2011 12:29:13 Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
 Hello
 
 the build of this port fails due to a problem with the 'moz' module:
 
   ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
   /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/000330_m20/moz
 
   [ ... ]
 
 I found a thread sent to freebsd-openoffice@ earlier this month where
 several people said they had experienced this problem, the last message
 in it was dated 15 May 2011. No update after and no indication when the
 problem might be fixed.
 
 I wondered if anyone here has any more information about this?
 
 best wishes,
 
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I just went ahead and compiled WITHOUT_MOZILLA. The error didn't show and OO 
compiled, installed and runs fine.

I must say that I don't know precisely what functionality I am loosing with 
this though.

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Funny thing with portsclean

2011-05-29 Thread Mario Lobo
-runtime-4.4.11.1 Libraries for KDE-PIM applications
kdepimlibs-4.6.2Libraries for KDE-PIM applications
kdeplasma-addons-4.6.2 Extra plasmoids for KDE4
kdesdk-4.6.2KDE Software Development Kit
kdetoys-4.6.2   Collection of entertaining programs for KDE
kdeutils-4.6.2  Utilities for the KDE4 integrated X11 Desktop


Is portsclean doing something wrong here or am I missing something? isn't it 
supposed to cross info with the installed packeges database before deleting 
the distfiles, even if you csuped the ports tree?

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Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)

2011-05-25 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 22 May 2011 14:10:33 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Now, as M$ bought Skype, we should stop wining for a native Skype client
 for FreeBSD and should prepare us for the time when M$ will integrate
 Skype into its desktop and stop deliver binaries for Linux;
 

Behold! The corpse is still warm and it's already starting !!

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/microsoft-skype-breaks-open-source-
partnership/?tag=nl.e550

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Re: pptpd problem (re-post) [SOLVED]

2011-05-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 19:14:05 Lokadamus wrote:
 Am 15.05.2011 20:03, schrieb Mario Lobo:
  Sorry for the re-post but I am really lost here.
  Any hints, clues, pointers, opinions would be appreciated.
  
  I have a VPN server on FBSD 8.1. The vpn closes fine. But as soon as I
  start doing something with an inside LAN machine i.e. an RDP session, I
  get this:
  
  May 14 12:46:06 suporte pptpd[1958]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc:
  No buffer space available
  and the VPN tunnel drops.
  
  I googled a lot for it but I didn't find any thing that could help.
  The system WAS working OK before. I tried everything I could think of.
  
  Could anyone help?
  Thanks,
 
 Help this? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1528
 Your values are:
 
 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384
 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216
 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=8192
 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216

I got those settings from 
http://fasterdata.es.net/fasterdata/host-tuning/freebsd/

 Is ping working?

Everything is working!. Even the VPN tunnels work. I just can't do much once 
in it.

 Have you upgrade to FreeBSD 8.2?

Nope. But I will soon. Production machine. Have to wait for a window.

 Sorry for my bad english :(

Your English is fine!

Anyway, I switched from poptop to mpd5 and the problem went away!
magic! I openned 3 RDP sessions through the tunnel and it hanged in there.

Thank you for replying!
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pptpd problem (re-post)

2011-05-15 Thread Mario Lobo
Sorry for the re-post but I am really lost here.

Any hints, clues, pointers, opinions would be appreciated.



I have a VPN server on FBSD 8.1. The vpn closes fine. But as soon as I start 
doing something with an inside LAN machine i.e. an RDP session, I get this:



May 14 12:46:06 suporte pptpd[1958]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: No 
buffer space available



and the VPN tunnel drops.



I googled a lot for it but I didn't find any thing that could help.
The system WAS working OK before. I tried everything I could think of.



Could anyone help?
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pptpd: 
poptop-1.3.4_2



System:
FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Mon Feb 28 20:47:00 BRT 2011 i386
last pid:  2145;  load averages:  0.00,  0.00,  0.00

28 processes:  1 running, 27 sleeping
CPU:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  1.1% interrupt, 98.9% idle
Mem: 15M Active, 13M Inact, 58M Wired, 28K Cache, 44M Buf, 1892M Free
Swap: 4000M Total, 4000M Free



sysctl.conf:
security.bsd.see_other_uids=0
security.bsd.see_other_gids=0
debug.cpufreq.lowest=400
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.maxfilesperproc=32768
kern.maxvnodes=60
kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864
kern.ipc.shmall=16384
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.somaxconn=32768
net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1
net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1
net.inet.icmp.icmplim_output=0
net.inet.icmp.icmplim=2000
net.inet.tcp.path_mtu_discovery=0
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_auto=1
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_auto=1
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=8192
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216



pf.conf(relevant rules):
#--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere
pass log   quick on $ext_if inet proto gre all queue (ssh_bulk, ack)
pass log   quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp  from any to any port pptp flags 
S/SA queue (ssh_bulk, ack)
  
pass log   quick on $aln_if inet proto gre all queue (ssh_bulk, ack)
pass log   quick on $aln_if inet proto tcp  from any to any port pptp flags 
S/SA queue (ssh_bulk, ack)






options.pptpd:
proxyarp
lock
name 



ppp.conf:
default:
  set timeout 1200
  # set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP TUN Command Connect
  set log Phase Chat TUN Connect
  set dial
  set login
  set ifaddr 172.16.3.200/24 172.16.3.201-172.16.3.239 255.255.255.0
  set server /tmp/tun%d  0177
  # set lqrperiod 20
  # set echoperiod 20
  # enable lqr echo



pptp:
  disable ipv6cp pap chap
  disable deflate pred1
  deny deflate pred1
  enable proxy
  accept dns
  set mtu max 1024
  set dns 172.16.3.133
  set nbns 172.16.3.133
  enable MSChapV2
  enable mppe
  set mppe * stateful
  set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf
  set rad_alive 60
  allow mode direct








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pptpd problem

2011-05-14 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I have a VPN server on FBSD 8.1. The vpn closes fine. But as soon as I start 
doing something with an inside LAN machine i.e. an RDP session, I get this:

May 14 12:46:06 suporte pptpd[1958]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: No 
buffer space available

and the VPN tunnel drops.

I googled a lot for it but I didn't find any thing that could help.
The system WAS working OK before. I tried everything I could think of.

Could anyone help?
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pptpd: 
poptop-1.3.4_2

System:
FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Mon Feb 28 20:47:00 BRT 2011 i386
last pid:  2145;  load averages:  0.00,  0.00,  0.00

28 processes:  1 running, 27 sleeping
CPU:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  1.1% interrupt, 98.9% idle
Mem: 15M Active, 13M Inact, 58M Wired, 28K Cache, 44M Buf, 1892M Free
Swap: 4000M Total, 4000M Free

sysctl.conf:
security.bsd.see_other_uids=0
security.bsd.see_other_gids=0
debug.cpufreq.lowest=400
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.maxfilesperproc=32768
kern.maxvnodes=60
kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864
kern.ipc.shmall=16384
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.somaxconn=32768
net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1
net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1
net.inet.icmp.icmplim_output=0
net.inet.icmp.icmplim=2000
net.inet.tcp.path_mtu_discovery=0
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_auto=1
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=16384
net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_auto=1
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=8192
net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216

pf.conf(relevant rules):
#--- Allow vpns from anywhere to anywhere
pass log   quick on $ext_if inet proto gre all queue (ssh_bulk, ack)
pass log   quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp  from any to any port pptp flags 
S/SA queue (ssh_bulk, ack)
  
pass log   quick on $aln_if inet proto gre all queue (ssh_bulk, ack)
pass log   quick on $aln_if inet proto tcp  from any to any port pptp flags 
S/SA queue (ssh_bulk, ack)


options.pptpd:
proxyarp
lock
name 

ppp.conf:
default:
  set timeout 1200
  # set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP TUN Command Connect
  set log Phase Chat TUN Connect
  set dial
  set login
  set ifaddr 172.16.3.200/24 172.16.3.201-172.16.3.239 255.255.255.0
  set server /tmp/tun%d  0177
  # set lqrperiod 20
  # set echoperiod 20
  # enable lqr echo

pptp:
  disable ipv6cp pap chap
  disable deflate pred1
  deny deflate pred1
  enable proxy
  accept dns
  set mtu max 1024
  set dns 172.16.3.133
  set nbns 172.16.3.133
  enable MSChapV2
  enable mppe
  set mppe * stateful
  set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf
  set rad_alive 60
  allow mode direct


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Re: Skyip? question

2011-05-12 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 11 May 2011 23:24:11 Polytropon wrote:
 And keep in mind the data in the background: WHO communi-
 cates? WHERE does he communicate from, with WHOM, WHEN? Tech-
 nology allows answering questions even about WHAT has been
 spoken. Relations between individuals and there interests
 can be concluded from such communication profiles. They
 are of high value for advertising and industry propaganda
 mechanisms.

And a LOT of governments.

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Re: (8.2) amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia driver is it stable ?

2011-05-10 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 10 May 2011 15:21:07 Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net wrote:
  В Tue, 10 May 2011 17:31:53 +0200
  
  Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org пишет:
   Hi,
   
   I've got a new box running 8.2-stable with amd64 + linuxulator +
   nvidia driver. Quite often when watching video on youtube the box
   freeze (no panic).
   
   Are there some known problems with this kind of configuration on
   amd64? (Works fine on my old laptop using 8.2/i386)
   
   I don't know where is problem, but one time the machine crashed just
   after a pkill of npviewer.bin (they were in the futex state), so it
   could be the linuxulator?
  
  I have encountered in the system exactly the same problem
  
 uname -a
 FreeBSD nonamehost 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r221598:
 Sat May 7 17:28:18 EEST 2011
 ivan@nonamehost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mk9  amd64
 
 pciconf -lv|grep Ge
 
 device = 'Geforce 8400M GS (unknown)'
 
 pkg_info|grep nvidi
 nvidia-driver-270.41.06 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for
 hardware OpenGL ren
 
 dmesg|grep NVRM
 NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 13, 000a  8297 19d0
 003c 0100
  
  they were observed for nearly all nvidia drivers for amd64...
  I tried to change the different options:
  setenv VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 - ~/.cshrc
  Option Xinerama False and Option Xinerama 0
  - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
  cat /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
  OverrideGPUValidation=false
  AutoUpdateDisable=true
  EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0
  FullScreenDisable=false
  
  and it seems to me it helped for flashplayer...
  
  but the situation as a whole wants the best, because these problems
  continue with using VDPAU
  
  so I'm leaning that cause these problems in drivers...
  
  sorry for my english...
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 I have had the same problem as well in the past when I tried killing
 npviewer.bin . Also using an NVidia card on amd64...
 
 Thanks
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Are you guys using nspluginwrapper-devel?

Since I started using it I have no more freezes in firefox and no more 
dangling npviewer.bin processes. YouTube plays fine for as many videos as I 
want.

By the way, I never experienced system freezes even when I was using a non-
devel wrapper. Only firefox froze with watching flash videos. All I had to do 
was to kill it and kill the npviewer.bins.

My system:

FreeBSD Papi 8.2-STABLE Tue May  3 13:17:39 BRT 2011 amd64
NVIDIA Driver Version: 270.41.06
device = 'NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT (G92)'

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Re: (8.2) amd64 + linuxulator + nvidia driver is it stable ?

2011-05-10 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 10 May 2011 20:09:37 Mark Felder wrote:
 On Tue, 10 May 2011 16:21:39 -0500, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
  Are you guys using nspluginwrapper-devel?
 
 Hi Mario,
 
 It happens to me with Opera, Chromium (from chromium.hybridsource.org),
 and with Firefox via regular nspluginwrapper.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Mark
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You should try the devel version.

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Status of 8-CURRENT

2011-04-12 Thread Mario Lobo
Forgive my lame question but where can I check which version 8-CURRENT is 
without updating my sources (i.e. 8.x-RC1, 8.x-RELEASE, etc)?

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Re: Status of 8-CURRENT

2011-04-12 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 11:52:59 Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
 On
   http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html
 you will find a list of available versions and their state.
 
 Hope that helps
 
 Peter.

This is what I needed!

Thanks, Peter!

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Re: Status of 8-CURRENT

2011-04-12 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 11:33:08 Paul B. Mahol wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
  Forgive my lame question but where can I check which version 8-CURRENT is
  without updating my sources (i.e. 8.x-RC1, 8.x-RELEASE, etc)?
 
 There is no 8-CURRENT any more. Now it is 9-CURRENT.

Sorry! I meant RELENG_8.
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Re: Status of 8-CURRENT

2011-04-12 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 12:15:27 Ruben de Groot wrote:
 Here's a nice oneliner ;)
 
  fetch -qo -
  'http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh?rev=.;onl
  y_with_tag=RELENG_8;content-type=text%2Fplain' | awk '/^REVISION=/ ||
  /^BRANCH=/'
 
 REVISION=8.2
 BRANCH=STABLE
 
 Ruben
 

Wow! this is exactly it !

Allright, Ruben ! Thanks.
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Re: CPU heating!

2011-02-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 13 February 2011 18:52:16 Mario Lobo wrote:
 Hi;
 
 I am following 8-CURRENT AMD64. I have a Phenom II 955. Up to the 3rd week
 of January, I had 8-STABLE.  Idle CPU temp was 42~44 C (which is already
 not excellent, i know) and full load would never go above 60 C (compiling
 VBox from KDE, for instance).
 
 After updating to 8.2-PRERELEASE, my temps now are:
 idle:not less than 48 C
 full load (same above conditions): it reached 65.5 C with peaks of 66 C!.
 
 
 Was there any big change between these versions that could be causing this?

Just an update to this topic:

BEFORE:

FBSD 8.2-RELEASE
Phenom II 955 w/ stock cooler
Idle temp at turn-on: 42~44 C
Idle temp after 3 hrs: 48~49.5 C

Load (95~100%)temp: 64~66.5 C (w/ peaks of 67.5)

With the side of the computer case off.

I replaced the thermal grease (as advised here) with a new one but that didn't 
change those figures.




AFTER:

FBSD 8.1-STABLE
Phenom II 955 w/ a ZALMAN CNPS 10x PERFORMA cooler
Idle temp at turn-on: 35~37 C
Idle temp after the compilation: 43~44 C

Load (95~100%)temp: 54~56.5 C (w/ peaks of 57 tops)

With the side of the computer case ON.



On both cases, the load was provided by compiling Vbox (4.0.2) under KDE and 
room temp was around 30 C. Powerd on for both.


I noticed one thing. With 8.2-RELEASE, the compilation process stays at 100% 
load a lot longer than with 8.1-STABLE. During the compile with 8.2, there was 
a time I counted about 9 seconds at 100% load, plus about 3 or 4 extra 100% 
load of around 5 secs each. 

With 8.1, I only saw 4 half second ( well, it seemed like a half to me) 100% 
load peaks. And that was it. Beleive me, I counted them. 


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Re: CPU heating!

2011-02-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 17 February 2011 19:59:18 Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Um, so you obviously aren't comparing similar circumstances.

No! Not at all.


 Most computer cases are designed with front-to-back airflow 
 (ie, intake fans in the front, exhaust fans and the PSU in the back) and
 cool more effectively with the case on

Well, in my case, with the BEFORE situation, if I had the side case cover 
on, the temps would be even higher ! 


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Re: CPU heating!

2011-02-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 17 February 2011 21:20:57 Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Feb 17, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  Most computer cases are designed with front-to-back airflow (ie, intake
  fans in the front, exhaust fans and the PSU in the back) and cool more
  effectively with the case on
  
  Well, in my case, with the BEFORE situation, if I had the side case
  cover on, the temps would be even higher !
 
 Are they?  Well, that suggests something could be wrong with your case
 ventilation-- perhaps a stuck (or even reversed) fan.
 

They are neither reversed nor stuck. I am truly paranoid about that. I have a 
front fan pulling in and a back fan pushing out. I even have one of the front 
device covers out since I bought this CPU.
That's the air flow since day one. I can't say that nothing changed inside the 
machine since I added a HD to it but the heating came long after that.

 I know, it's not as interesting as the possibility that different versions
 of FreeBSD present different CPU load, but if you aren't controlling for
 major factors like the case being opened or closed, or using different
 coolers, then there's little point in worrying about whether your
 load-testing of the software is accurate.

I didn't mean to imply that the different versions of FBSD was THE cause of 
heating. But the fact is that it started to happen after the upgrade. It's 
probably just a coincidence. The fact is that downgrading to 8.1 improved the 
cooling. Very little ( -1 degree, that's true) but improved nonetheless.

You're certainly right. My load testing method isn't accurate but my 
observations are. Even if your measuring instrument is not accuratly 
calibrated, the absolute value of the measurement can not be trusted, but the 
difference of two measurements with the same instrument can. The instrument 
being my hardware in this case.

I pointed the difference in load between 8.1 and 8.2 when compiling, as 
something I noticed. Just that.

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Re: CPU heating!

2011-02-14 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 14 February 2011 11:32:18 Chris Brennan wrote:
  You need to replace the thermal grease on your processor? It goes hard
  and loses effectiveness. I recommend Arctic Silver 5.
 
 It even comes in this little push-tube applicator with a plunger ... but it
 works great! Arctic Silver is probably the best their is, highly
 recommended.
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CPU heating!

2011-02-13 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I am following 8-CURRENT AMD64. I have a Phenom II 955. Up to the 3rd week of 
January, I had 8-STABLE.  Idle CPU temp was 42~44 C (which is already not 
excellent, i know) and full load would never go above 60 C (compiling VBox 
from KDE, for instance).

After updating to 8.2-PRERELEASE, my temps now are:
idle:not less than 48 C 
full load (same above conditions): it reached 65.5 C with peaks of 66 C!.


Was there any big change between these versions that could be causing this?

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Accessing a GPT drive

2011-02-08 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

Os: FreeBSD amd64 w/ options GEOM_PART_GPT

I added a drive to my system which I installed win7 64. The drive is 500G.
I gave 100G to win7. Then I created an ext2 partition with the unallocated
space with a gparted cd.
fdisk shows the MBR of the drive with the win7 system and data partitions
and the ext2 partition created.

I need to access both the NTFS win7 and ext2 partitions from freeBSD. FBSD
sees the drive (ada2) but does not see the partitions. I need to access
the ext2 partition
from both FBSD and win7. I have another ext2 on the other drive that both
OSs see fine but that drive
has MBR scheme.  Win7 only installs in a GPT partition.

What I really need if for FBSD to access that drive.

I've googled for a couple days but didn't find any clues that could help me.

Anybody has any hints on how I could make this work?

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Saturday 05 February 2011 22:12:45 Eric Schuele wrote:
 All,
 
 I have a laptop running 8.2-prerelease GENERIC.  I have virtualbox ose
 3.2.12 from ports (and kmod as well).
 
 I've only installed windows guests in vbox.  I've installed windows 2008
 server 64, windows vista 64bit, and windows 7 32bit.  I have the vbox
 hdd images on an NTFS filesystem mounted using fuse.
 
 My box is a dual boot machine between FreeBSD and Windows.  My desire is
 to be able to utilize the same virtual machine in vbox on both my
 Windows and FreeBSD installations.
 
 I can successfully utilize the virtuals in vbox (same version) in
 Windows.  However when I utilize any of the virtual machines in FreeBSD,
 they run for several minutes and eventually freeze.  Freeze may not
 necessarily be the correct term.  All windows processes on the virtual
 machine begin to die.  First one process, then another, then all.  Hard
 to explain, which may not help my cause here.  But, most important
 fact... in Windows they work fine... under FreeBSD they run for a while
 and then cease to run.  When the VM is good and dead, it is always dead
 with the little vbox virtual hard disk LED lit up (no idea if that is
 important).
 
 Previously, they would run for a *very* short time.  seconds? minutes?
 and then die (sometimes I couldn't login).  I disabled sound support and
 now they run for 10-15 minutes.  Had one run for an hour or two the
 other day, but can't reproduce that.  Usually 10-15 minutes max.
 
 Network works fine inside the virtual.
 
 I'm new to VirtualBox on FreeBSD.  I've used it a bit on Windows with
 good results.
 
 I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that
 out, but had same issue.
 
 What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the
 right direction here?
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
 Regards,
 Eric

Eric;


My advice to you is that you change the file system on drive that holds the 
VMs files from NTFS to EXT2.

NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small r/w 
stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS for heavy 
usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under windows itself.

EXT on the other hand, is very stable in FreeBSD and has very good drivers for 
any version of 32/64 windows (Ext2IFS_1_11a) so you can access you vdi files.

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 06 February 2011 13:09:47 Eric Schuele wrote:
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, however,  I've already tried this (sorta).
 From my original post...
 
  I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that
  out, but had same issue.
 
 I suppose it may have been a little less than clear.  By non fuse
 filesystem  I actually meant UFS.  The problem still persisted.
 

  NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small
  r/w stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS
  for heavy usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under
  windows itself.
 

My bad!. Sorry!. But it seems that you're right. Looks like the issue is not 
the FS then.

If you're building from the ports, try the svn version from:

https://svn.bluelife.at/index.cgi/blueports

It's already version 4.0.2 there.


 I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
 come a long way these days.  It does seem to work well for all my
 purposes, except these VMs.  Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.


 
 I've not tried the EXT IFS for windows yet, nor had I heard much
 regarding their success or failure.  If your willing to go out on a limb
 and say very good drivers for any version of 32/64 windows...  I'll
 give it a try, and post my results.  :)
 


Forgive me if it sounded on a limb. Didn't mean to look like that. The only 
reason I mentioned it is because it's exactly the way I've been using. I have 
triple boot system. BSD AMD64, XP32 and Win7 64 and the IFS driver works 
flawlessly on both windows, and all 3 Vboxes accessing the same VDIs. Because 
of that, I believe I may have got carried away by saying any win version.

regards,

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 06 February 2011 17:48:45 Chris Brennan wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.orgwrote:
  I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
  come a long way these days.  It does seem to work well for all my
  purposes, except these VMs.  Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.
 
 ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so
 many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never did
 much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes
 in *nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music
 so I can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old.

FAT32 max file size is 4Gig.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: /usr/ports/net/pptpclient]

2010-12-14 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 14 December 2010 15:03:11 Mike Sabroff wrote:
Is this the right place to post this question?
 Original Message 
 
   Subject: Re: /usr/ports/net/pptpclient
  Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:41:39 -0800
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This list is for discussion of the various Java ports on FreeBSD. � I
don't think it is the correct place for your question about
establishing a VPN connection.
 
I suggest trying [5]freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org instead.
 
� �  Nick
On 14 December 2010 08:56, Mike Sabroff [6]msabr...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
 
  I hope this is the correct place to ask about this port.
  I am trying to get a VPN connection to the office and after
  googleing, it looked like this would be a good choice for FreeBSD.
  I am running 7.3-RELEASE FreeBSD. I had no problem building or
  installing, in fact it was fast and sweet!
  I followed some documentation I found on the setup and modifying
  the /etc/resolve.conf file and all went fine until I ran the script
  to invoke pptp and when it ran I got an error message stating
  basically that /usr/bin/ip was an unknown command.
  ip is a linux command but doesn't seem to be part of a default
  freebsd system.
  My question isWhat if any is the equivalent of ip on freebsd or
  which port would I install to get ip or it's equivalent?
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Give /usr/ports/net/mpd5 a try. I've been using it for a good while now and it 
works really well with either a windows server or FreeBSD server.
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Chinese FreeBSD

2010-12-13 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

I know this is old news.

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=1682

I was just curious if anybody would have a clue on how they've hardened FBSD, 
either by just using its own resources or by hacking the code further.

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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-13 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 12 November 2010 23:27:42 Mubeesh ali wrote:
 i guess  it is high time this list  bans the word devil in subject ;-)
 

Let's hack the term and use lucifer instead!

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Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-10 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 06:21:18 Bruce Cran wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 04:02:34 +0100
 
 Michael Ross michael.r...@gmx.net wrote:
  For Windows OSes there is actually a rather nice tool out there,
  
  http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/
  
  which allows you to script the GUI cross-app.
 
 Microsoft also have the UI Automation API to script GUI applications.

In my humble experience, I think there are 2 distinct aspects to this issue.

I use FBSD both as desktop and as server. In practice, I need a GUI for 
desktop work and none whatsoever for server work. 

The only time I needed some kind of GUI component on a server was when I 
wanted to test a VM on it and I wanted the comodity of running VirtualBox 
console on my desktop. Other than that, the command line is more than enough.

OTOH, for the kind of work that I do, having 4 workspaces is absolutely handy. 
And to be able to switch between these 4 scenarios with the scroll of a middle 
button is definetly a plus.

just my 0,02 cents.
 
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Re: (no subject)

2010-09-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 17 September 2010 17:45:40 Modulok wrote:
  I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine.
  Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three
  PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that
  will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just
  something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then
  I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using
  something worth a recommendation?
 
 There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE
 connector
 
 and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug.
 
 This is news to me.  I now have two on the way :)
 
 Thank you!
 -Modulok-

You're welcome ! 

Let me know if you need any info on the one I have.

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Re: (no subject)

2010-09-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 16 September 2010 04:18:07 Modulok wrote:
 List,
 
 I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine.
 Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three
 PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that
 will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just
 something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then
 I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using
 something worth a recommendation?
 
 Thanks!
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There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE connector 
and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug.

I've been using one here on my home server for about 1,5 years without any 
problem.
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