Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-17 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 15 May 2007 00:16:34 -0500 WizLayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 14 May 2007 08:27:48 pm you wrote:
   On May 13, 2007, at 7:13 PM, WizLayer wrote:
On Sunday 13 May 2007 07:17:14 pm Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:

Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
failure.

Indeed.  UPSes are designed to start recharging their (usually 12V
sealed lead-acid) batteries at around the 5-hour rate, which might be
say 2.4A for a 12Ah battery, for a say 300VA UPS, tapering that off as
voltage rises.  Using (just) the UPS to recharge a say 100Ah vehicle
battery at that rate would take maybe 2 days, assuming the UPS didn't
overheat and perhaps blow up trying.

However a simple (regulated) charger on the external battery is fine,
though possibly thoroughly confusing the UPS' brains about how long
recharge should take, available capacity and such.  For adding external
batteries, simple 'dumb' UPSes are usually better than 'smarter' ones.

[..]

   This is another approach that seems like it would be practical:
   Use deep cycle car batteries, trickle charge with solar panels.

Sure, you can do that, assuming it's sunny during/after a power outage.
Here at least, outages mostly tend to correlate with stormy weather.

   If a desktop computer can run on square wave generated by
   dc/ac converter, use that as a power backup system, It would
   have to have some kind of switching system to detect main
   power drop and switch to the backup system.

That's pretty much what a UPS is doing, though they usually provide a
'modified square wave' that somewhat more closely approximates a sine
wave output.  Note however that a UPS has to switch cleanly from mains
to battery power supplying the last stage inverter within just a few
milliseconds, ie a small fraction of a single mains 50 or 60Hz cycle. 

   Perhaps someone would be willing to, with engineering expertise
   put together servers that would work on laptop batteries, like a
   laptop. I do have one machine that has Yellow Dog linux (Mac
   Powerbook 3400c) that runs 24/7 as my backup DNS server.
   JK

Laptops as servers is sure the way to go on solar-powered houses; hard
to find or make a better UPS than a laptop p/s.  For desktop boxes,
there are available computer power supplies that run straight off 12V.
I hunted for a mob called DC-PC, but they may be defunct.  eg check: 

  http://www.powerstream.com/mini-itx.htm
  http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.13/.f

  Why settle for a square wave?  It's not hard to clean that up, and 
  besides...  

Very much easier said than done :) and besides ..

  Wouldn't that bring mayhem and havoc on a scanner (ie, I'm pretty sure that 
  you your screen would do very unhappy things)?  LCD screen? don't know.  (or 
  a system's power supply over long term?  hmmm)

Devices that aren't happy with non-sinewave power include such as laser
printers, but those you mention here use switching supplies themselves,
and are usually happy enough running on square-wave inverters, as long
as the inverter can handle the peak startup currents often demanded.

Computer power supplies aren't fazed by square wave (or for that matter,
high voltage DC) input, as they're chopping the input waveform anyway.
Also, you probably don't want printers and such running off the UPS.

  As far as the type of batteries, deep cycle marine batteries, whatever.  It 
  doesn't really matter except to say that some types can be fully discharged 
  and some would be ruined on a full discharge.  The health and monitoring 
  portion of the UPS would have to be designed with those limits in mind (and, 
  hey...  That could be part of the embedded mprocessors job, too...  more 
  options).

Well that's just what any decent UPS does.  While I wouldn't want to
discourage anyone from learning embedded design and programming, it's
terrific fun, but you can expect to spend hundreds of hours and not a
little cash doing so by trial and error, to save on a what, $200 UPS?

  Switching power from one source to another is something that I've not had a 
  lot of  luck with, esp with sensitive stuff like a computer's power supply 
  (touchy).  On the other hand clean, dc power in a parallel circuit is as 
  simple as it gets.  Edison had a good idea after all.  
  
  Look at the battery as your constant source, and work away from that.  Your 
  secondary source merely compliments the battery.  So long as you use 
  regulators for your other sources, it will stay Clean by default.  :)
  
  As far as switching power sources from regular charger to something like 
  solar 
  panels, same concept...  Don't switch from-to anything.  Keep it constantly 
  hooked up in parallel with the battery.  

For best efficiency, most UPSes use the mains as long as it's available,
even in a degraded state such as under- or over-voltage, using 'boost'
and 'buck' windings/circuits 

Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-16 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar

Ok great I will try that too.

On 5/15/07, NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:

 Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
 So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
 failure.

Aloha  Aftab,

This was the first thing I tested. I unplugged the unit and let it run
on battery all day while I was in town.  Then I plugged in the UPS  and
its internal charger did its thing until  the next day and  I tested the
current with a big amp meter I got from an auto sourse store and it was
fully charged in less than  24 hrs.

It was not fully discharged by the way even when the battery ran the 2
servers for the 9 hours.

Al

 Hey welcome to visit Dhaka.

 Regards-

 Aftab Jahan Subedar
 CEO/Software Engineer
 Subedar Technologies Ltd
 Soubedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1
 North Jatra Bari
 Dhaka 1204
 Bangladesh
 +880152635208
 -http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com
 Spyware detector -http://www.google.com/search?q=kayoty


 On 5/13/07, NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 jekillen wrote:

  Hello again;
  Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a
ups
  system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
  in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
  I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
  out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement
 for one
  made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one
 desk
  top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in
 addition
  to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours
  during
  the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
  down before the ups exhausts its battery.
  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
  Jeff K.
 
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 Aloha Jekillen,


 I had a similar problem here in  Hawaii with our 2  noc servers.  I
 replaced the small UPS battery with a 100 amp stationery battery out
 side the box. It now will run for about 10 hours if we have a power
 outage for that long.



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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-16 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar

Thats all comes down to switching IC with bigger AMPERE or darlington
circuit.
Anyway I dunno any circuit publicly available to make one UPS using
microcontroller.
If u anyone has one, kindly post it here.

We definitely do not want to get ripped off by the UPS makers!!!

On 5/15/07, WizLayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Monday 14 May 2007 08:27:48 pm you wrote:
 On May 13, 2007, at 7:13 PM, WizLayer wrote:
  On Sunday 13 May 2007 07:17:14 pm Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:
  Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
  So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
  failure.
 
  What's wrong with that?  Trickle-charge the battery and ride the
  computers
  from the battery at the same time...  That's an uninterrupted power
  supply.
  A voltage regulator, converter, and a few filters will give you a
  clean,
  constant supply.  It will last longer, and it's a lot cheaper in
  comparison.
 
  Actually, this is a project of mine that's been on the back burner for
  years
  now.  I'd like to add a network interface for remote controls, some
  health
  checking, and test modes, but would have to incorporate an embedded
  processor
  (serial port and/or USB interfaces are just as possible).
 
  Being that I've never messed with such, any suggestions as far as a
  good
  processor to start with?  It doesn't necessarily have to be a
  processor that
  will do the whole kit-n-kaboodle.  Right now, I'm just looking for
  something
  I can learn the basics with.
 
  I know it's not a BSD-related question, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
 
  Thanks
 
  WizLayer

 This is another approach that seems like it would be practical:
 Use deep cycle car batteries, trickle charge with solar panels.
 If a desktop computer can run on square wave generated by
 dc/ac converter, use that as a power backup system, It would
 have to have some kind of switching system to detect main
 power drop and switch to the backup system.
 Perhaps someone would be willing to, with engineering expertise
 put together servers that would work on laptop batteries, like a
 laptop. I do have one machine that has Yellow Dog linux (Mac
 Powerbook 3400c) that runs 24/7 as my backup DNS server.
 JK

Why settle for a square wave?  It's not hard to clean that up, and
besides...
Wouldn't that bring mayhem and havoc on a scanner (ie, I'm pretty sure
that
you your screen would do very unhappy things)?  LCD screen? don't
know.  (or
a system's power supply over long term?  hmmm)

As far as the type of batteries, deep cycle marine batteries,
whatever.  It
doesn't really matter except to say that some types can be fully
discharged
and some would be ruined on a full discharge.  The health and monitoring
portion of the UPS would have to be designed with those limits in mind
(and,
hey...  That could be part of the embedded mprocessors job, too...  more
options).

Switching power from one source to another is something that I've not had
a
lot of  luck with, esp with sensitive stuff like a computer's power supply
(touchy).  On the other hand clean, dc power in a parallel circuit is as
simple as it gets.  Edison had a good idea after all.

Look at the battery as your constant source, and work away from
that.  Your
secondary source merely compliments the battery.  So long as you use
regulators for your other sources, it will stay Clean by default.  :)

As far as switching power sources from regular charger to something like
solar
panels, same concept...  Don't switch from-to anything.  Keep it
constantly
hooked up in parallel with the battery.

Some simple logics could perform circuits acts for the solar panels (if
sun
is good and elec_co's bad , then close...  however you want to hack it.)
Same for dis/associating the charger.

I just need someone to point me in the right direction as far as embedded
mprocessors.  I've googled it, and found a few hobby kits, but I'd rather
hear it from someone who deals with stuff like this and can suggest a
start
here.  I hate jumping into something only to have to unlearn in order to
learn it right.

WizLayer


PS  When I finally get this finished, I'm going to find some way of
modifying
the BSD license to apply it and release the whole thing to the
public.  One
would only have to buy the parts, program, and assemble the thing...  Why?
Because UPS prices are a rip-off and some jerk told me I couldn't.  :)

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Subedar Technologies Ltd
Soubedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1
North Jatra Bari
Dhaka 1204
Bangladesh

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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-14 Thread jekillen


On May 13, 2007, at 7:13 PM, WizLayer wrote:


On Sunday 13 May 2007 07:17:14 pm Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:

Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
failure.


What's wrong with that?  Trickle-charge the battery and ride the 
computers
from the battery at the same time...  That's an uninterrupted power 
supply.
A voltage regulator, converter, and a few filters will give you a 
clean,
constant supply.  It will last longer, and it's a lot cheaper in 
comparison.


Actually, this is a project of mine that's been on the back burner for 
years
now.  I'd like to add a network interface for remote controls, some 
health
checking, and test modes, but would have to incorporate an embedded 
processor

(serial port and/or USB interfaces are just as possible).

Being that I've never messed with such, any suggestions as far as a 
good
processor to start with?  It doesn't necessarily have to be a 
processor that
will do the whole kit-n-kaboodle.  Right now, I'm just looking for 
something

I can learn the basics with.

I know it's not a BSD-related question, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

Thanks

WizLayer



This is another approach that seems like it would be practical:
Use deep cycle car batteries, trickle charge with solar panels.
If a desktop computer can run on square wave generated by
dc/ac converter, use that as a power backup system, It would
have to have some kind of switching system to detect main
power drop and switch to the backup system.
Perhaps someone would be willing to, with engineering expertise
put together servers that would work on laptop batteries, like a
laptop. I do have one machine that has Yellow Dog linux (Mac
Powerbook 3400c) that runs 24/7 as my backup DNS server.
JK

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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-14 Thread NetOpsCenter

Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:


Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power 
failure.



Aloha  Aftab,

This was the first thing I tested. I unplugged the unit and let it run 
on battery all day while I was in town.  Then I plugged in the UPS  and 
its internal charger did its thing until  the next day and  I tested the 
current with a big amp meter I got from an auto sourse store and it was 
fully charged in less than  24 hrs.


It was not fully discharged by the way even when the battery ran the 2 
servers for the 9 hours.


Al


Hey welcome to visit Dhaka.

Regards-

Aftab Jahan Subedar
CEO/Software Engineer
Subedar Technologies Ltd
Soubedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1
North Jatra Bari
Dhaka 1204
Bangladesh
+880152635208
-http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com
Spyware detector -http://www.google.com/search?q=kayoty


On 5/13/07, NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



jekillen wrote:

 Hello again;
 Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a ups
 system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
 in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
 I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
 out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement 
for one
 made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one 
desk
 top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in 
addition

 to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours
 during
 the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
 down before the ups exhausts its battery.
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 Jeff K.

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Aloha Jekillen,


I had a similar problem here in  Hawaii with our 2  noc servers.  I
replaced the small UPS battery with a 100 amp stationery battery out
side the box. It now will run for about 10 hours if we have a power
outage for that long.



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  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] +
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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-14 Thread WizLayer
On Monday 14 May 2007 08:27:48 pm you wrote:
 On May 13, 2007, at 7:13 PM, WizLayer wrote:
  On Sunday 13 May 2007 07:17:14 pm Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:
  Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
  So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
  failure.
 
  What's wrong with that?  Trickle-charge the battery and ride the
  computers
  from the battery at the same time...  That's an uninterrupted power
  supply.
  A voltage regulator, converter, and a few filters will give you a
  clean,
  constant supply.  It will last longer, and it's a lot cheaper in
  comparison.
 
  Actually, this is a project of mine that's been on the back burner for
  years
  now.  I'd like to add a network interface for remote controls, some
  health
  checking, and test modes, but would have to incorporate an embedded
  processor
  (serial port and/or USB interfaces are just as possible).
 
  Being that I've never messed with such, any suggestions as far as a
  good
  processor to start with?  It doesn't necessarily have to be a
  processor that
  will do the whole kit-n-kaboodle.  Right now, I'm just looking for
  something
  I can learn the basics with.
 
  I know it's not a BSD-related question, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
 
  Thanks
 
  WizLayer

 This is another approach that seems like it would be practical:
 Use deep cycle car batteries, trickle charge with solar panels.
 If a desktop computer can run on square wave generated by
 dc/ac converter, use that as a power backup system, It would
 have to have some kind of switching system to detect main
 power drop and switch to the backup system.
 Perhaps someone would be willing to, with engineering expertise
 put together servers that would work on laptop batteries, like a
 laptop. I do have one machine that has Yellow Dog linux (Mac
 Powerbook 3400c) that runs 24/7 as my backup DNS server.
 JK

Why settle for a square wave?  It's not hard to clean that up, and besides...  
Wouldn't that bring mayhem and havoc on a scanner (ie, I'm pretty sure that 
you your screen would do very unhappy things)?  LCD screen? don't know.  (or 
a system's power supply over long term?  hmmm)

As far as the type of batteries, deep cycle marine batteries, whatever.  It 
doesn't really matter except to say that some types can be fully discharged 
and some would be ruined on a full discharge.  The health and monitoring 
portion of the UPS would have to be designed with those limits in mind (and, 
hey...  That could be part of the embedded mprocessors job, too...  more 
options).

Switching power from one source to another is something that I've not had a 
lot of  luck with, esp with sensitive stuff like a computer's power supply 
(touchy).  On the other hand clean, dc power in a parallel circuit is as 
simple as it gets.  Edison had a good idea after all.  

Look at the battery as your constant source, and work away from that.  Your 
secondary source merely compliments the battery.  So long as you use 
regulators for your other sources, it will stay Clean by default.  :)

As far as switching power sources from regular charger to something like solar 
panels, same concept...  Don't switch from-to anything.  Keep it constantly 
hooked up in parallel with the battery.  

Some simple logics could perform circuits acts for the solar panels (if sun 
is good and elec_co's bad , then close...  however you want to hack it.)  
Same for dis/associating the charger. 

I just need someone to point me in the right direction as far as embedded 
mprocessors.  I've googled it, and found a few hobby kits, but I'd rather 
hear it from someone who deals with stuff like this and can suggest a start 
here.  I hate jumping into something only to have to unlearn in order to 
learn it right. 

WizLayer


PS  When I finally get this finished, I'm going to find some way of modifying 
the BSD license to apply it and release the whole thing to the public.  One 
would only have to buy the parts, program, and assemble the thing...  Why?  
Because UPS prices are a rip-off and some jerk told me I couldn't.  :)

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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12/05/07, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello again;
Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a ups
system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement for one
made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one desk
top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in addition
to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours
during
the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
down before the ups exhausts its battery.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Sounds like quite the varied selection of hardware.
I am sure there are people here with experience
in this area, but as a starter, look at:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=upsstype=allsektion=sysutils
and perhaps:
http://www.networkupstools.org/

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RE: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-13 Thread Murray Taylor
 

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 To: jekillen
 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?
 
 On 12/05/07, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello again;
  Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use 
 with a ups
  system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and 
 references
  in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
  I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman 
 that crapped
  out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a 
 replacement for one
  made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am 
 running one desk
  top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI 
 drives in addition
  to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 
 - 9 hours
  during
  the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
  down before the ups exhausts its battery.
  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
 Sounds like quite the varied selection of hardware.
 I am sure there are people here with experience
 in this area, but as a starter, look at:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=upsstype=allsekti
 on=sysutils
 and perhaps:
 http://www.networkupstools.org/
 
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Network UPS tools in the ports tree can do this...

cd /usr/ports
make search key=network ups

will find the main port and the optional addons.

mjt
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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-13 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar

Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power failure.

Hey welcome to visit Dhaka.

Regards-

Aftab Jahan Subedar
CEO/Software Engineer
Subedar Technologies Ltd
Soubedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1
North Jatra Bari
Dhaka 1204
Bangladesh
+880152635208
-http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com
Spyware detector -http://www.google.com/search?q=kayoty


On 5/13/07, NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


jekillen wrote:

 Hello again;
 Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a ups
 system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
 in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
 I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
 out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement for one
 made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one desk
 top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in addition
 to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours
 during
 the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
 down before the ups exhausts its battery.
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 Jeff K.

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Aloha Jekillen,


I had a similar problem here in  Hawaii with our 2  noc servers.  I
replaced the small UPS battery with a 100 amp stationery battery out
side the box. It now will run for about 10 hours if we have a power
outage for that long.



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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-13 Thread WizLayer
On Sunday 13 May 2007 07:17:14 pm Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:
 Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
 So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
 failure.

What's wrong with that?  Trickle-charge the battery and ride the computers 
from the battery at the same time...  That's an uninterrupted power supply.  
A voltage regulator, converter, and a few filters will give you a clean, 
constant supply.  It will last longer, and it's a lot cheaper in comparison.

Actually, this is a project of mine that's been on the back burner for years 
now.  I'd like to add a network interface for remote controls, some health 
checking, and test modes, but would have to incorporate an embedded processor 
(serial port and/or USB interfaces are just as possible).  

Being that I've never messed with such, any suggestions as far as a good 
processor to start with?  It doesn't necessarily have to be a processor that 
will do the whole kit-n-kaboodle.  Right now, I'm just looking for something 
I can learn the basics with.

I know it's not a BSD-related question, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

Thanks

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Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-12 Thread jekillen

Hello again;
Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a ups
system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement for one
made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one desk
top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in addition
to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours 
during

the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
down before the ups exhausts its battery.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Jeff K.

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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-12 Thread NetOpsCenter

jekillen wrote:


Hello again;
Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a ups
system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement for one
made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one desk
top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in addition
to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours 
during

the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
down before the ups exhausts its battery.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Jeff K.

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Aloha Jekillen,


I had a similar problem here in  Hawaii with our 2  noc servers.  I 
replaced the small UPS battery with a 100 amp stationery battery out 
side the box. It now will run for about 10 hours if we have a power 
outage for that long.




~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] +
 + http://internetohana.org   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* +
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