Re: Binary upgrades?
Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 05:37:56PM +0100, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > >> I wonder if this could be made easier. I'd be surprised if there >> wasn't a method of doing binary upgrades already. For example, if we >> decided to track releases, would that enable us to do binary upgrades >> using sysinstall, say? I vaguely remember having seen an upgrade >> option in there... > > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update Yes, being able to install security updates is a cool thing. I've now installed it and read the freebsd-update(8) and freebsd-update.conf(5) man pages. Alas, I don't grok it, yet. - Is the intent that I can make my own server? Or is it "just" a convenient way to receive binary upgrades for releases? (I put the quotes there because I think it is not a small feat.) - If I'm supposed to be able to make my own server, how to put stuff there? - What does it do with config files during the upgrade? (Actually, I think for me it would be sufficient for the thing to install default config files -- I've got cfengine to handle the rest...) - Can it upgrade from one version to another, or is it for security fixes only? Regardless of the answers, however, I can already see that it will help us tremendously: we just install a release, then let freebsd-update handle the rest for the base system. And for the ports, we think of another way, such as the "portupgrade -avRPP" command that I mentioned before. Now the only thing missing is my ability to convince them ;-) Kai ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Binary upgrades?
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:37:56 +0100 Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to convince my cow-orkers and my boss to switch to ^^ > FreeBSD from Debian GNU/Linux. The systems we are talking about > are workstations (desktop or laptop PCs), our servers are running > Solaris. Oh, I love this one ;) Regards, Thorsten ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Binary upgrades?
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 05:37:56PM +0100, Kai Grossjohann wrote:
> I wonder if this could be made easier. I'd be surprised if there
> wasn't a method of doing binary upgrades already. For example, if we
> decided to track releases, would that enable us to do binary upgrades
> using sysinstall, say? I vaguely remember having seen an upgrade
> option in there...
http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update
It's still in development, so it hasn't been adopted yet as an
official FreeBSD thing, but that surely is just a matter of time.
Works exceedingly well, and because of Colin Percival's binary diff
tool, it's really very light weight in the bandwidth usage stakes.
It's available from ports, of course:
security/freebsd-update
The 'binary upgrade' option in sysinstall is a different thing: it's
essentially a mechanism for wiping and replacing your current system
with that release version, backing up various important config files
as it does so. You still need to repopulate your /etc directory by
merging the updated default contents with the saved versions, and it's
generally not as smooth to do as the more usual means of
{build,install} {world,kernel} and running mergemaster. (Unless you're
upgrading over a large number of versions or across a major version
number change).
Cheers,
Matthew
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Binary upgrades?
I'm trying to convince my cow-orkers and my boss to switch to FreeBSD from Debian GNU/Linux. The systems we are talking about are workstations (desktop or laptop PCs), our servers are running Solaris. So far, my experience with FreeBSD has been running on my home computer. There, I use "portupgrade -avR" for upgrading the ports, and the procedure described in /usr/src/UPDATING for upgrading the base system. Some of us will want to just use the machine, without bothering about the configuration. Others will act as sysadmins, tweaking the configuration. I've already pretty much decided that cfengine will be our friend -- it allows us to tweak the configuration incrementally, and all those who don't want to think about it will get the config changes automatically. Now comes the issue of upgrading the system. I understand that this will be fairly easy for the ports collection: just nfs-mount the right directories, and pass "-pP" to the portupgrade program. Maybe those who don't want to think about it can say "portupgrade -avRPP". (Is this the right command?) But for the base system, I'm not so sure. I've read the chapter in the handbook talking about nfs-mounting /usr/obj and /usr/src. But that still requires people to do shutdown now cd /usr/src mergemaster -p make installkernel installworld mergemaster Is this correct? I wonder if this could be made easier. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a method of doing binary upgrades already. For example, if we decided to track releases, would that enable us to do binary upgrades using sysinstall, say? I vaguely remember having seen an upgrade option in there... I guess I just haven't read the right documentation, yet. Normally, with FreeBSD, one doesn't need to ask the community, one just reads the documentation ;-) Kai ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
