Re: Breach of Contract Reported for FREEBSD.ORG
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: [snip] ICANN requires registrars to verify the domain info once a year. I just went through this with GoDaddy. I think the registrars see this as an opportunity to market services. Different registrars bungle their marketing effort in different ways. GoDaddy sent me instructions on what to do in order to correct errors, but had absolutely nothing on how to proceed if the information was correct. So I viewed this as something they could take advantage of in order to get me to their site for a hard sell campaign. So how do you folks who comply with ICANN's requirement deal with this? http://blog.forret.com/2004/12/domain-registry-of-america-scam/ -- This organisation is now known as Domain Renewal Group, by the way. What is described in the above URI looks very very similar to what I saw when I first went to check up on the ICANN whois confirmation email I received from GoDaddy. Initially they seemed to be touting their new TDNAM service, which I gather is some form of bulk auction. GoDaddy took over the domains from the RegisterFly debacle so they have a few million domains to monetize. A perfect example of registrar gone bad. At first I was alarmed - Why am I in some danger of losing my domains? is what I thought. As I went deeper into it by examining my account, I confirmed that I indeed had Auto Renew on, so it would just bill my credit card even if I took no action. However, I tend to do it manually just so I'm satisfied it's done. So in the end this was just a hard sell for a new service they wanted to push, for which I have no use. There must have been complaints because when I just went looking for what I saw a few weeks ago it seems to have vanished. I'm quite interested in knowing; it might be tolerable if you've only one domain, but if you're a hosting provider and have 100? I'm not qualified for this because these days I only carry two .com domains. At work we are a large .org entity and we have an entire group of people whose sole function is to deal with this. Relatively low down in the hierarchy my DNS servers are only slaves to those higher up. It is a function handled by others and is out of my hands. But a scam is a scam and the first thing which needs to occur is recognizing a scam when you see it. Most legitimate businesses recognize the need for large scale management and more than likely market some form of service of assistance. It's a matter of trade-off of the fees they charge versus whether it is worth it to you time/money wise to pay for the service. For something like this I would only consider a service of this type offerred by the registrar I'm already dealing with. And even then, I'd double check behind them as I had time. Back in the day I worked 2 blocks from Network Solutions and had a friend that worked there as a DBA. So I had the proverbial someone you know insider access. He no longer works for them and moved to California some years ago. But it goes to the point of the working relationship you maintain with your registrar. I'm fairly cynical so I tend to believe large companies only pay attention to large accounts and have a certain tendency to ignore and forget to service the little guy. In that vein it's a YMMV, depends on who represents you on the other end of the circuit. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Breach of Contract Reported for FREEBSD.ORG
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 07:15:35AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: David G Lawrence wrote: Dear Customer, It has been brought to our attention that some or all of the information associated with your domain name FREEBSD.ORG is outdated or incorrect. These types of complaints are brought to our attention in one of two ways. The most common type of complaint is received from the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). ICANN is the non-profit corporation responsible for accrediting domain name registrars. ICANN requires domain name registration customers to keep their account information current. ICANN mandates that outdated contact information can be grounds for domain name cancellation. Michelle, The registration information for freebsd.org is correct. The only thing that is out of date is one of the email addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), which I have tried to change, but have been unable to due to a problem with the Network Solutions website. I don't know who reported that the information was incorrect, but they are mistaken. I will additionally follow up in the other ways mentioned in your message. [snip] ICANN requires registrars to verify the domain info once a year. I just went through this with GoDaddy. I think the registrars see this as an opportunity to market services. Different registrars bungle their marketing effort in different ways. GoDaddy sent me instructions on what to do in order to correct errors, but had absolutely nothing on how to proceed if the information was correct. So I viewed this as something they could take advantage of in order to get me to their site for a hard sell campaign. So how do you folks who comply with ICANN's requirement deal with this? http://blog.forret.com/2004/12/domain-registry-of-america-scam/ -- This organisation is now known as Domain Renewal Group, by the way. I'm quite interested in knowing; it might be tolerable if you've only one domain, but if you're a hosting provider and have 100? Let me know. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Breach of Contract Reported for FREEBSD.ORG
David G Lawrence wrote: Dear Customer, It has been brought to our attention that some or all of the information associated with your domain name FREEBSD.ORG is outdated or incorrect. These types of complaints are brought to our attention in one of two ways. The most common type of complaint is received from the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). ICANN is the non-profit corporation responsible for accrediting domain name registrars. ICANN requires domain name registration customers to keep their account information current. ICANN mandates that outdated contact information can be grounds for domain name cancellation. Michelle, The registration information for freebsd.org is correct. The only thing that is out of date is one of the email addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), which I have tried to change, but have been unable to due to a problem with the Network Solutions website. I don't know who reported that the information was incorrect, but they are mistaken. I will additionally follow up in the other ways mentioned in your message. [snip] ICANN requires registrars to verify the domain info once a year. I just went through this with GoDaddy. I think the registrars see this as an opportunity to market services. Different registrars bungle their marketing effort in different ways. GoDaddy sent me instructions on what to do in order to correct errors, but had absolutely nothing on how to proceed if the information was correct. So I viewed this as something they could take advantage of in order to get me to their site for a hard sell campaign. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Breach of Contract Reported for FREEBSD.ORG
Dear Customer, It has been brought to our attention that some or all of the information associated with your domain name FREEBSD.ORG is outdated or incorrect. These types of complaints are brought to our attention in one of two ways. The most common type of complaint is received from the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). ICANN is the non-profit corporation responsible for accrediting domain name registrars. ICANN requires domain name registration customers to keep their account information current. ICANN mandates that outdated contact information can be grounds for domain name cancellation. Michelle, The registration information for freebsd.org is correct. The only thing that is out of date is one of the email addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), which I have tried to change, but have been unable to due to a problem with the Network Solutions website. I don't know who reported that the information was incorrect, but they are mistaken. I will additionally follow up in the other ways mentioned in your message. -DG Dr. David G. Lawrence President Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com - (866) 399 8500 Pave the road of life with opportunities. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]