Re: Bug in ports howto question
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-10-28 01:43:19 +0100: On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 04:07:08PM -0800, kosmos wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Simon Barner wrote: What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet? You have to configure sendmail (or any other MTA of your choice) to use a proper mail server (e.g your ISP's) as a smarthost/mailrelay. Perhaps at least a reference to the according sendmail documentation should be added to the send-pr man page. Yes, I tried installing a simpler MTA this morning. I think it's asking too much to require sendmail configuration expertise from contributing porters. Sendmail configuration is normally relegated to sysadmins that specialize in it. then use a different MTA, one with proper documentation, configuration helpers, or digestible config file formats. there's plenty of them in ports. qmail bundled documentation contains precise description of steps required to produce a nullclient configuration, as does postfix documentation. The skill sets are mutually exclusive. aha. you can't possess skill in both skiing and driving. the skill sets are mutually exclusive. eh? I wonder how many people just give up trying. Good question. Every single volunteer giving up is a pity. Yep. It happens and nobody is aware of it. The ports collection doesn't really benefit from decreased access for contributors. is it that hard to have send-pr(1) save the PR in file instead of sending it out, and attach it to a mail in your favorite graphical MUA? you *are* able to reach @freebsd.org, after all. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug in ports howto question
How does one formally submit a ports bug report? -Jason This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug in ports howto question
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:56:08AM -0800, Jason Dictos wrote: How does one formally submit a ports bug report? -Jason E-mail the maintainer, or use send-pr(1) mike -- ___ NUTS TO YOU AND YOUR BROCCOLI POKEY!! - Little Girl from POKEY AND THE BROCCOLI ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug in ports howto question
What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet? If you try to send a PR from a regular-person connection (e.g. DSL or modem - with no verifiable hostname) sendmail , probably to protect itself from spam, rejects the submission. I wonder how many people just give up trying. So, what address or mailing list should a new port be sent to if you can't use send-pr? Should this be documented in the porter's handbook? --Allan Bowhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug in ports howto question
What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet? You have to configure sendmail (or any other MTA of your choice) to use a proper mail server (e.g your ISP's) as a smarthost/mailrelay. Perhaps at least a reference to the according sendmail documentation should be added to the send-pr man page. Apart from that effort is being put into bringing a web based submission form back online (the former one has been disabled since the GNATS system was heavily spammed). I wonder how many people just give up trying. Good question. Every single volunteer giving up is a pity. So, what address or mailing list should a new port be sent to if you can't use send-pr? Should this be documented in the porter's handbook? IMHO the best solution is to fix your mailing system. If you can't help it you could try and post your patch to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I wonder whether that list will reject your mail, too. Aside from that the preferred way of submitting a bug report/patch is send-pr. Simon signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug in ports howto question
Randy, Thanks for the info. I decided to stop using my MS mail client, and replaced sendmail on my unix box with ssmtp, which is a lot simpler. I think there are 3 configuration options to it. I use pop3 so I am also using fetchmail now. I used gtk-send-pr at the last place I worked, and although it is nice, I don't know if it addresses the issue of mail access to freebsd's gnats server from a private host. The access problems are a relatively new development since the last time I submitted a port. Although the port I submitted got forwarded by someone who picked it up in bugbusters mailing list, it also got mangled in the forwarding process. Since it now has a tracking number, I don't know if I should resubmit it or just wait. On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 06:47:53PM -0500, Randy Pratt wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:45:10 -0800 you wrote: What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet? The stock answer is to tackle configuring sendmail so you can use the send-pr included with the system. Recently I noticed a port that might be a lot easier for those who use pop3 and don't have a need for sendmail. You can try having a look at /usr/ports/sysutils/gtk-send-pr to see if it might meet your needs. I've not used the port but it only has a few dependencies. Hope this helps you, Randy -- -- Allan Bowhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have great faith in fools -- self confidence my friends call it. -- Edgar Allan Poe ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug in ports howto question
Or just have sendmail config files for the most common cases, e.g. isps mail server as smart host (with and without asmtp), etc. That would be good idea too. But when you make world and run mergemaster, is always the risk of the sendmail configurations getting wiped out. But I guess it depends on which option you like better. Personally, as a sendmail challenged person, I like the idea of using a smaller, simpler program. I planned to work out a solution or at least an improvement for that anyway. I'll dig into it as soon as time permits. Simon signature.asc Description: Digital signature
