Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-24 Thread Mark Terribile

[Rahul Fernandez]
 Hi, I shall certainly try installing a port instead. I am rather new
 to FreeBSD and am unclear as to how I can obtain new packages

[Matthew Seaman]
 ...  Even better, use the ports tree.  This may sound terrifying
 ...  but that's the beauty of the ports system.  It reduces doing
 all that right down to typing make install  ...

I went back to my notes on the problem I saw when the port system's
autoconfiguration machinery seemed to go into an infinite loop.  It
appears (APPEARS, I must repeat) that the problem is that everything
depends on pkginstall, but pkginstall's man pages depend on find files
that depend on something else.  My note ends ``make -k works around this.''

Greg, you got your ears up?  I entered posted a bug report; I will if you
poke me a little.

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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-23 Thread Rahul Fernandez

 
 The secret is that once you've installed the system, put away
 sysinstall(1).  Learn how to use the system level commands for
 installing packages -- particularly pkg_add(1).  Even better, use the
 ports tree.  This may sound terrifying to the uninitiated: what, you
 mean I should compile all this stuff from source?! but that's the
 beauty of the ports system. 

Hi, Thanks for the response. I understand that the ports system is the most
up-to-date. However, if I choose to install a package (to install very large
packages like openoffice or mozilla say), am I am correct in thinking that I must
install from the the directory set aside for my release? If this is the case why
is it not a good idea to use sysinstall?

Thanks, Rahul

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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-21 Thread Rahul Fernandez
Hi, I shall certainly try installing a port instead. I am rather new
to FreeBSD and am unclear as to how I can obtain new packages. When I
run sysinstall, it does not offer new packages. Does that mean that
the new packages are not meant to be installed? Or is it the case
that I need to reconfigure it so that it looks in the correct place?
If the latter, does sysinstall or pkg_add know to deleter the old
version before installing the new one. Thanks for the replies. -Rahul
--- paul beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Nov 20, 2003, at 5:06 PM, Rahul Fernandez wrote:
 
  Hi, I'm am running 4.9 release. A package called hpijs1.4.1 is
  installed. I now would like to upgrade to hpijs-1.5. However,
 this
  package is only available in 4.9-stable. Can I install the
 package
  from 4.9-stable or is it advisable to stick to the packages in my
  release?
 
 why not install it from a port? I use packages as a last resort,
 and go 
 with ports first.
 


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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:53:49AM -0800, Rahul Fernandez wrote:
 Hi, I shall certainly try installing a port instead. I am rather new
 to FreeBSD and am unclear as to how I can obtain new packages. When I
 run sysinstall, it does not offer new packages. Does that mean that
 the new packages are not meant to be installed? Or is it the case
 that I need to reconfigure it so that it looks in the correct place?
 If the latter, does sysinstall or pkg_add know to deleter the old
 version before installing the new one. Thanks for the replies. -Rahul

The secret is that once you've installed the system, put away
sysinstall(1).  Learn how to use the system level commands for
installing packages -- particularly pkg_add(1).  Even better, use the
ports tree.  This may sound terrifying to the uninitiated: what, you
mean I should compile all this stuff from source?! but that's the
beauty of the ports system.  It reduces doing all that right down to
typing make install in the appropriate directory.  It's all
explained in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

While you're there, read about the two essential packages for managing
your system: cvsup(1) and portupgrade(1) (use
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi if you haven't already installed
those ports) and then congratulate yourself in choosing (IMHO) the
most maintainable computer system available bar none.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-20 Thread Rahul Fernandez
Hi, I'm am running 4.9 release. A package called hpijs1.4.1 is
installed. I now would like to upgrade to hpijs-1.5. However, this
package is only available in 4.9-stable. Can I install the package
from 4.9-stable or is it advisable to stick to the packages in my
release? Thanks, Rahul

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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-20 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 20 November 2003 05:06 pm, Rahul Fernandez wrote:
 Hi, I'm am running 4.9 release. A package called hpijs1.4.1 is
 installed. I now would like to upgrade to hpijs-1.5. However, this
 package is only available in 4.9-stable. Can I install the package
 from 4.9-stable or is it advisable to stick to the packages in my
 release? Thanks, Rahul


There is no such thing as a 4.9 port. There were ports that were snapshoted 
when 4.9 was released but the tag on ports is . or head only.

Go for it :)

Kent

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Richland, WA

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Re: Can I install packages only for my release?

2003-11-20 Thread paul beard
On Nov 20, 2003, at 5:06 PM, Rahul Fernandez wrote:

Hi, I'm am running 4.9 release. A package called hpijs1.4.1 is
installed. I now would like to upgrade to hpijs-1.5. However, this
package is only available in 4.9-stable. Can I install the package
from 4.9-stable or is it advisable to stick to the packages in my
release?
why not install it from a port? I use packages as a last resort, and go 
with ports first.

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