Re: FreeBSD (4.5-to-4.7) Binary Upgrade Mishap

2003-03-08 Thread IAccounts
 What did I miss?  Does one have to become an expert to work with this OS?

All I have to say is that people tell me that practice makes perfect
(eventually, with help from these lists of course ;o)

No one can know everything, so it's the frustration and anguish that makes
success much more enjoyable. (Unless there are corporate mandates with
superiors breathing down your neck, but that's another story)

Just my $0.02.

Steve



 BTW, I did back up my 4.5 system before attempting the upgrade.

 Thanks.



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Re: FreeBSD (4.5-to-4.7) Binary Upgrade Mishap

2003-03-08 Thread Bob Perry

  What did I miss?  Does one have to become an expert to work with this
OS?

 All I have to say is that people tell me that practice makes perfect
 (eventually, with help from these lists of course ;o)

 No one can know everything, so it's the frustration and anguish that makes
 success much more enjoyable. (Unless there are corporate mandates with
 superiors breathing down your neck, but that's another story)

 Just my $0.02.

 Steve

I've received some valuable technical feedback and support from taxman and
others
(sorry, but I neglected to cc the group) and have decided to take the
opportunity to
try a source rebuild also.  If that doesn't work, then I'll reinstall.  The
key word here is opportunity and this is my opportunity to practice and
learn.

I wanted to focus on web design and web applications, so obviously, when
something like this happens it's easy to get frustrated.  However when a
situation calls for the systems administrator, reality dictates that I have
my systems admin act together.  So, on with the show and stop crying.

Your $0.02 is always welcome.  To a newbie, it's worth a lot more.

Bob



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FreeBSD (4.5-to-4.7) Binary Upgrade Mishap

2003-03-07 Thread Bob Perry
Recently tried to upgrade my 4.5 box using the 4.7 CDs and ran into a
problem which left me with a partially upgraded system.

I have a 14 GB hard disk so I chose to load all of the canned distributions.
During the early stages of the upgrade, I received a message indicating that
/usr/src was not loaded and should be upgraded using the CVSup instead.
OK.

The next set of messages were more problematic and appeared in the following
order:
Add of packages freetype2-2.1.1 aborted, error code 1
Loading of dependent package freetype2-2.1.2 failed
Loading of dependent package XFree86 -libraries -4.2.1-1 failed
Loading of dependent XFree86-FontServer -4.2.0 failed

The next message appeared after the program was ...making slices...:
Hmmm, couldn't even extract the bin distribution.  Start over.

So, I did...three times not realizing that my original kernel was being
trashed along with my config files.  I'm a newbie of sorts and I've spent
the last week fussing and fuming over the time wasted so far with, what I
thought, should have been a relatively simple process.  I'm over it and
ready to move on.  I ran the upgrade again, this time leaving out anything
to do with the X  System.  It ran successfully (?) however, I need to
restore/reinstall certain files this weekend to make it whole again.

What did I miss?  Does one have to become an expert to work with this OS?

BTW, I did back up my 4.5 system before attempting the upgrade.

Thanks.



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Re: FreeBSD (4.5-to-4.7) Binary Upgrade Mishap

2003-03-07 Thread taxman
On Friday 07 March 2003 10:32 pm, Bob Perry wrote:
 Recently tried to upgrade my 4.5 box using the 4.7 CDs and ran into a
 problem which left me with a partially upgraded system.

 I have a 14 GB hard disk so I chose to load all of the canned
 distributions. During the early stages of the upgrade, I received a message
 indicating that /usr/src was not loaded and should be upgraded using the
 CVSup instead. OK.

That doesn't seem like a problem

 The next set of messages were more problematic and appeared in the
 following order:
 Add of packages freetype2-2.1.1 aborted, error code 1
 Loading of dependent package freetype2-2.1.2 failed
 Loading of dependent package XFree86 -libraries -4.2.1-1 failed
 Loading of dependent XFree86-FontServer -4.2.0 failed

no biggie, you can load all these packages later anyway.

 The next message appeared after the program was ...making slices...:
 Hmmm, couldn't even extract the bin distribution.  Start over.

 So, I did...three times not realizing that my original kernel was being
 trashed along with my config files.  I'm a newbie of sorts and I've spent
 the last week fussing and fuming over the time wasted so far with, what I
 thought, should have been a relatively simple process.  I'm over it and
 ready to move on.  I ran the upgrade again, this time leaving out anything
 to do with the X  System.  It ran successfully (?) however, I need to
 restore/reinstall certain files this weekend to make it whole again.

 What did I miss?  Does one have to become an expert to work with this OS?

Well even after reading the biggest hairiest warning that binary upgrade can 
trash your system and leave you with a completely unable to work system, you 
still did it?

 BTW, I did back up my 4.5 system before attempting the upgrade.

That seems the best choice you made.  Binary upgrade has never worked well 
that I know of.  I think because the source upgrade method works so well.

So i would either back up and reinstall (easiest), or do a source rebuild from 
where you are at.   But if your system is working then just go ahead and use 
it.  if not, upgrade.  I would expect you will have problems after a binary 
upgrade, but who knows.

If you want to do the source upgrade, see the chapter in the 
www.freebsd.org/handbook on cutting edge.  Even if you don't want to go to 
-current or -stable, the same method outlined there will work to rebuild your 
system.

have fun, and think of all you're learning!

Tim


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