Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:04:47 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >kaffe won't be available for 7.x until it's officially released and > someone makes the binary. Why is this any more of a problem than any other port? That's how I installed it. Thanks! -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgpSBx4IXD6Pp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
David Benfell wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:32:21 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote: On 2007-11-22 David Benfell wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:02 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote: However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java applications. It is quite possible that there are no applications that depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely that if you deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of your Java applications anymore. Given that I do not feel I can afford to have Java on the system, this is a sacrifice I feel is necessary. In the process of updating ports, apache-ant has already been reinstalled. I had installed kaffe when I removed jdk*; but apache-ant now seems to depend on diablo-jdk. My guess is that when updating ports some Java application is also being installed which requires build from source and as a result installs ant. It'd be good to check the installed applications for a Java one. So here's a question. I see that OpenOffice and Firefox are both using Java (ouch, this hurts). I also see now that java_vm is not exiting even after the applet should have finished running (this with the Blackboard applet that I have specifically identified as problematic). Can these ports use kaffe instead? Or is there a way to force java_vm to exit without my having to babysit it? Killing java_vm takes down Firefox as well. earth% pkg_info -r diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8 Information for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8: Depends on: Dependency: xtrans-1.0.4 Dependency: xproto-7.0.10_1 Dependency: xextproto-7.0.2 Dependency: javavmwrapper-2.3 earth% cat /var/db/pkg/diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8/+REQUIRED_BY apache-ant-1.7.0_1 earth% Obvious. At least I do not yet see java_vm (which seems to have been the culprit in cases where I was able to get back into the system) yet reappearing. When I encountered difficulty this morning, I had left both firefox and an ports upgrade running. In the past, I had associated the problem with a java script from Blackboard at the university where I attend and teach, but in the situation this morning, I had not invoked that script. So I'm guessing that java_vm had been invoked by apache-ant which previously depended on jdk* rather than diablo-jdk*. And, is there a way to tell which other ports rely on java? I am wondering if I have any reason to believe that diablo-jdk is sufficiently different from jdk to avoid the problem. I see now that it is not. No clue here. But I guess it's not about java_vm that your system goes blank since I'm working/developing with both diablo-jdk-1.5.0_06 and jdk-1.6.0_01 on an average machine running 6.2-p7. I upgraded to RELENG_7 hoping to make a USB problem go away (symptoms changed, but problems remain). I did not experience the problem prior to this upgrade. I'm not sure but I paste my javavm_wrapper configuration. It might be useful: # JDK 1.6 #JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0 #JAVA_OS=native #JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd #JAVA_VERSION=1.6 #JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities # JDK 1.5 JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/dialblo-jdk1.5.0 JAVA_OS=native JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd JAVA_VERSION=1.5 JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities I have now deinstalled diablo-jdk and: earth# JAVAVM_DRYRUN="YES" java JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/kaffe JAVAVM_CONF=/usr/local/etc/javavms JAVAVM_OPTS_CONF=/usr/local/etc/javavm_opts.conf JAVAVM_PROG=/usr/local/kaffe/bin/java JAVAVM_OPTS= JAVAVM_COMMAND=/usr/local/kaffe/bin/java earth# At the moment, I don't have a way to invoke the evil applet. What I don't see is where this configuration is; what you have above doesn't look at all like the /usr/local/etc/javavm_opts.conf on my system. Is this because you stripped the comments? Thanks! kaffe won't be available for 7.x until it's officially released and someone makes the binary. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:32:21 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote: > On 2007-11-22 David Benfell wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:02 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote: > > > However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java > > > applications. It is quite possible that there are no applications > > > that depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely > > > that if you deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of > > > your Java applications anymore. > > > > > Given that I do not feel I can afford to have Java on the system, this > > is a sacrifice I feel is necessary. In the process of updating ports, > > apache-ant has already been reinstalled. I had installed kaffe when I > > removed jdk*; but apache-ant now seems to depend on diablo-jdk. > > My guess is that when updating ports some Java application is also > being installed which requires build from source and as a result > installs ant. It'd be good to check the installed applications for a > Java one. > So here's a question. I see that OpenOffice and Firefox are both using Java (ouch, this hurts). I also see now that java_vm is not exiting even after the applet should have finished running (this with the Blackboard applet that I have specifically identified as problematic). Can these ports use kaffe instead? Or is there a way to force java_vm to exit without my having to babysit it? Killing java_vm takes down Firefox as well. > > earth% pkg_info -r diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8 > > Information for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8: > > > > Depends on: > > Dependency: xtrans-1.0.4 > > Dependency: xproto-7.0.10_1 > > Dependency: xextproto-7.0.2 > > Dependency: javavmwrapper-2.3 > > > > earth% cat /var/db/pkg/diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8/+REQUIRED_BY > > apache-ant-1.7.0_1 > > earth% > > Obvious. > > > At least I do not yet see java_vm (which seems to have been the > > culprit in cases where I was able to get back into the system) yet > > reappearing. > > > > When I encountered difficulty this morning, I had left both firefox > > and an ports upgrade running. In the past, I had associated the > > problem with a java script from Blackboard at the university where I > > attend and teach, but in the situation this morning, I had not > > invoked that script. > > > > So I'm guessing that java_vm had been invoked by apache-ant which > > previously depended on jdk* rather than diablo-jdk*. And, is there a way to tell which other ports rely on java? > > I am wondering if I have any reason to believe that diablo-jdk is > > sufficiently different from jdk to avoid the problem. > I see now that it is not. > No clue here. But I guess it's not about java_vm that your system goes > blank since I'm working/developing with both diablo-jdk-1.5.0_06 and > jdk-1.6.0_01 on an average machine running 6.2-p7. > I upgraded to RELENG_7 hoping to make a USB problem go away (symptoms changed, but problems remain). I did not experience the problem prior to this upgrade. > I'm not sure but I paste my javavm_wrapper configuration. It might be > useful: > # JDK 1.6 > #JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0 > #JAVA_OS=native > #JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd > #JAVA_VERSION=1.6 > #JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities > > # JDK 1.5 > JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/dialblo-jdk1.5.0 > JAVA_OS=native > JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd > JAVA_VERSION=1.5 > JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities > I have now deinstalled diablo-jdk and: earth# JAVAVM_DRYRUN="YES" java JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/kaffe JAVAVM_CONF=/usr/local/etc/javavms JAVAVM_OPTS_CONF=/usr/local/etc/javavm_opts.conf JAVAVM_PROG=/usr/local/kaffe/bin/java JAVAVM_OPTS= JAVAVM_COMMAND=/usr/local/kaffe/bin/java earth# At the moment, I don't have a way to invoke the evil applet. What I don't see is where this configuration is; what you have above doesn't look at all like the /usr/local/etc/javavm_opts.conf on my system. Is this because you stripped the comments? Thanks! -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgp0AFChOgEOK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
On 2007-11-22 David Benfell wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:02 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote: > > On 2007-11-22 Robert Huff wrote: > > > > > > > > David Benfell writes: > > > > > > > Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon > > > > it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. > > > > > > "man pkg_info", paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' > > > options. > > > > > > > Is there a workaround for apache-ant? > > > > > > If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed > > > because of an option - the anxwer is probably "No.". > > > You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative > > > opinion. > > > > # cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-X.Y.Z/+REQUIRED_BY > > Where X, Y and Z are ant versions. If the file exists, the contents > > show the ports that depend on ant. If it doesn't exist, it means > > that no other port is dependant on ant. > > > earth% cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY > cat: /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY: No such file or > directory earth% So far so good. > > However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java > > applications. It is quite possible that there are no applications > > that depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely > > that if you deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of > > your Java applications anymore. > > > Given that I do not feel I can afford to have Java on the system, this > is a sacrifice I feel is necessary. In the process of updating ports, > apache-ant has already been reinstalled. I had installed kaffe when I > removed jdk*; but apache-ant now seems to depend on diablo-jdk. My guess is that when updating ports some Java application is also being installed which requires build from source and as a result installs ant. It'd be good to check the installed applications for a Java one. > earth% pkg_info -r diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8 > Information for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8: > > Depends on: > Dependency: xtrans-1.0.4 > Dependency: xproto-7.0.10_1 > Dependency: xextproto-7.0.2 > Dependency: javavmwrapper-2.3 > > earth% cat /var/db/pkg/diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8/+REQUIRED_BY > apache-ant-1.7.0_1 > earth% Obvious. > At least I do not yet see java_vm (which seems to have been the > culprit in cases where I was able to get back into the system) yet > reappearing. > > When I encountered difficulty this morning, I had left both firefox > and an ports upgrade running. In the past, I had associated the > problem with a java script from Blackboard at the university where I > attend and teach, but in the situation this morning, I had not > invoked that script. > > So I'm guessing that java_vm had been invoked by apache-ant which > previously depended on jdk* rather than diablo-jdk*. > > I am wondering if I have any reason to believe that diablo-jdk is > sufficiently different from jdk to avoid the problem. No clue here. But I guess it's not about java_vm that your system goes blank since I'm working/developing with both diablo-jdk-1.5.0_06 and jdk-1.6.0_01 on an average machine running 6.2-p7. I'm not sure but I paste my javavm_wrapper configuration. It might be useful: # JDK 1.6 #JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0 #JAVA_OS=native #JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd #JAVA_VERSION=1.6 #JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities # JDK 1.5 JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/dialblo-jdk1.5.0 JAVA_OS=native JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd JAVA_VERSION=1.5 JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities -- Bahman Movaqar PGP KeyID: 0xDA647509 (subkeys.pgp.net) I'm not surprised that the system is so insecure; I'm surprised that anyone is surprised. -Bruce Schneier signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
David Benfell schrieb: Hello all, I don't know what the story is, but Java is locking up my system badly. Even if I knew how to get details, I wouldn't be able to because the system is completely unresponsive. As a workaround, I have gone into /usr/ports/distfiles and renamed the jdk* files to names with DO-NOT-INSTALL in capital letters and linked the original filenames to /dev/null. I do not want java installing again on this system ever under any circumstances. With java, at least, I believe I have to download the files by hand if there is ever an update. But what if I identify other ports that are causing me problems? Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. Is there a workaround for apache-ant? Thanks! A way to prevent java from installing would be to do chmod 000 /usr/ports/java/*jre* /usr/ports/java/*jdk* Tino ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:02 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote: > On 2007-11-22 Robert Huff wrote: > > > > > David Benfell writes: > > > > > Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon > > > it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. > > > > "man pkg_info", paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options. > > > > > Is there a workaround for apache-ant? > > > > If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of > > an option - the anxwer is probably "No.". > > You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative > > opinion. > > # cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-X.Y.Z/+REQUIRED_BY > Where X, Y and Z are ant versions. If the file exists, the contents > show the ports that depend on ant. If it doesn't exist, it means that > no other port is dependant on ant. > earth% cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY cat: /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY: No such file or directory earth% > However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java > applications. It is quite possible that there are no applications that > depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely that if you > deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of your Java > applications anymore. > Given that I do not feel I can afford to have Java on the system, this is a sacrifice I feel is necessary. In the process of updating ports, apache-ant has already been reinstalled. I had installed kaffe when I removed jdk*; but apache-ant now seems to depend on diablo-jdk. earth% pkg_info -r diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8 Information for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8: Depends on: Dependency: xtrans-1.0.4 Dependency: xproto-7.0.10_1 Dependency: xextproto-7.0.2 Dependency: javavmwrapper-2.3 earth% cat /var/db/pkg/diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8/+REQUIRED_BY apache-ant-1.7.0_1 earth% At least I do not yet see java_vm (which seems to have been the culprit in cases where I was able to get back into the system) yet reappearing. When I encountered difficulty this morning, I had left both firefox and an ports upgrade running. In the past, I had associated the problem with a java script from Blackboard at the university where I attend and teach, but in the situation this morning, I had not invoked that script. So I'm guessing that java_vm had been invoked by apache-ant which previously depended on jdk* rather than diablo-jdk*. I am wondering if I have any reason to believe that diablo-jdk is sufficiently different from jdk to avoid the problem. -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgpZqfWj5r1dZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
On 2007-11-22 Robert Huff wrote: > > David Benfell writes: > > > Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon > > it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. > > "man pkg_info", paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options. > > > Is there a workaround for apache-ant? > > If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of > an option - the anxwer is probably "No.". > You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative > opinion. # cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-X.Y.Z/+REQUIRED_BY Where X, Y and Z are ant versions. If the file exists, the contents show the ports that depend on ant. If it doesn't exist, it means that no other port is dependant on ant. However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java applications. It is quite possible that there are no applications that depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely that if you deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of your Java applications anymore. -- Bahman Movaqar PGP KeyID: 0xDA647509 (subkeys.pgp.net) Talking nonsense is man's only privilege that distinguishes him from all other organisms. -Fyodor M. Dostoevsky signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:16:21 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > David Benfell writes: > > > Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon > > it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. > > "man pkg_info", paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options. > > > Is there a workaround for apache-ant? > > If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of > an option - the anxwer is probably "No.". > You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative > opinion. > Thanks! -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgpOJau2xjWRZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
How do I prevent a port from installing?
David Benfell writes: > Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon > it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. "man pkg_info", paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options. > Is there a workaround for apache-ant? If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of an option - the anxwer is probably "No.". You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative opinion. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
How do I prevent a port from installing?
Hello all, I don't know what the story is, but Java is locking up my system badly. Even if I knew how to get details, I wouldn't be able to because the system is completely unresponsive. As a workaround, I have gone into /usr/ports/distfiles and renamed the jdk* files to names with DO-NOT-INSTALL in capital letters and linked the original filenames to /dev/null. I do not want java installing again on this system ever under any circumstances. With java, at least, I believe I have to download the files by hand if there is ever an update. But what if I identify other ports that are causing me problems? Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant. Is there a workaround for apache-ant? Thanks! -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgpWi0PH1ukFO.pgp Description: PGP signature
