Re: List of big names ...
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that it was posted to -questions, and Bcc:'ed to -advocacy. If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster, which the headers claim is Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Ummm, I never BCC'd to -advocacy, only sent it to -questions ... totally forgot about the -advocacy group even though I am on that list :( That's bizarre. The headers claim it came in via -advocacy; I can post them if you want. At first, I thought the hidden cross-post was a troll... Nope, I generally avoid trolling on mailing lists ... this whole thread was a very serious one, since one of the major hurdles I know I experience is trying to explain to someone going FreeBSD when everyone else and their dog have jump'd behind Linux :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Adam Weinberger wrote: Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the questions list. FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that it was posted to -questions, and Bcc:'ed to -advocacy. If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster, which the headers claim is Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Ummm, I never BCC'd to -advocacy, only sent it to -questions ... totally forgot about the -advocacy group even though I am on that list :( We, at the PostgreSQL project, just recently setup http://advocacy.postgresql.org to start pushing case-studies of those deploying with PgSQL ... has anyone looked at a http://advocacy.freebsd.org site for similar? With as much press as Linux gets, it would be really nice to have a site to go to that was purely marketing ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Marc G. Fournier wrote: FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that it was posted to -questions, and Bcc:'ed to -advocacy. If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster, which the headers claim is Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Ummm, I never BCC'd to -advocacy, only sent it to -questions ... totally forgot about the -advocacy group even though I am on that list :( That's bizarre. The headers claim it came in via -advocacy; I can post them if you want. At first, I thought the hidden cross-post was a troll... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
--En cette belle journée de dimanche 1 décembre 2002 02:57 -0400, -- Marc G. Fournier écrivait avec ses petits doigts : Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? there is this page : http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their longest uptime on the internet page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) - Original Message - From: Mathieu Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 2:21 AM Subject: Re: List of big names ... --En cette belle journée de dimanche 1 décembre 2002 02:57 -0400, -- Marc G. Fournier écrivait avec ses petits doigts : Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? there is this page : http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
From: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip IBM bought Whistle Communications for it's product based on FreeBSD; can you name a company that IBM bought that had a product based on Linux? Unfortunately, IBM seems to have closed the door on Whistle. And, IBM is pushing Linux on their Z-series mainframes. Paul -- Paul A. Scott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://skycoast.us/pscott/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Paul A. Scott wrote: From: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip IBM bought Whistle Communications for it's product based on FreeBSD; can you name a company that IBM bought that had a product based on Linux? Unfortunately, IBM seems to have closed the door on Whistle. Whistle was a time-to-market acquisition. They bought it, instead of an distributing an internal Almaden project that used Linux, which could not be distributed with Linux because of the GPL (doing so would have granted source code usage under the GPL, which then grants, in perpetuity, the rights to use of IBM software patents -- we had to rip SQUID out of the InterJet II before it was first released, because of IBM patents). And, IBM is pushing Linux on their Z-series mainframes. Not actually. They are pushing Z-series mainframes to Linux propeller-heads, which is very different, even though on the surface, it appears to be the same thing to someone who isn't looking very deep. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their longest uptime on the internet page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Not to mention a few others like:- Hotmail ClaraNET Playboy Sony UUNET To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning the above, just in case they got neglected. Regards, Stacey On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their longest uptime on the internet page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Cheers, Matthew -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html The article is entitled MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch. And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. It's worth a read. Nathan On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +, Stacey Roberts wrote: Not to mention a few others like:- Hotmail ClaraNET Playboy Sony UUNET To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning the above, just in case they got neglected. Regards, Stacey On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their longest uptime on the internet page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Cheers, Matthew -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-01 08:36:14 -0800: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +, Stacey Roberts wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Not to mention a few others like:- Hotmail ClaraNET Playboy Sony UUNET To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning the above, just in case they got neglected. Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html The article is entitled MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch. And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. It's worth a read. That document is IMNSHO a hoax. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 16:36, Nathan Kinkade wrote: Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html The article is entitled MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch. And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. It's worth a read. Nathan Err.., I'll be willing to pay to see anyone of note at Hotmail who is willing to categorically state that Hotmail does not use FreeBSD. Don't believe *everything* you read :-) Of course.., if you know better, then, Regards, Stacey On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +, Stacey Roberts wrote: Not to mention a few others like:- Hotmail ClaraNET Playboy Sony UUNET To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning the above, just in case they got neglected. Regards, Stacey On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their longest uptime on the internet page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Cheers, Matthew -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Hi, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? on the embedded side there is the Nokia/CheckPoint hardware firewall applicaces. Nokia uses a hacked FreeBSD 2.x base system to host the checkpoint firewall for which checkpoint did a port only available with this nokia bundle. Also junipers internet core routers are based on FreeBSD. Greetings Christian -- CK Software GmbH Christian Kratzer, Schwarzwaldstr. 31, 71131 Jettingen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +49 7452 889-135Open Software Solutions, Network Security Fax:+49 7452 889-136FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Don't forget that MS themselves choose FreeBSD when the time came to port .net and C#, plus Apple decided they liked it for their OSX. - Original Message - From: Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:36 AM Subject: Re: List of big names ... Hotmail no longer runs on FreeBSD. Microsoft transitioned to MS platforms a while back. There has been a lot press lately about a leaked internal report from Microsoft regarding the transition process. Basically, the internal report speaks very hightly of *nix on the whole and in some ways degrades Windows. Check it out at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html The article is entitled MS paper touts Unix in Hotmail's Win2k switch. And there are also a link to what is apparently the actual document. It's worth a read. Nathan On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:51:08AM +, Stacey Roberts wrote: Not to mention a few others like:- Hotmail ClaraNET Playboy Sony UUNET To name a few. I came in late on this, but thought it worth mentioning the above, just in case they got neglected. Regards, Stacey On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 11:29, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 02:53:40AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: For Web servers, netcraft can help you out too. In particular, their longest uptime on the internet page may be of particular interest if you are pro FreeBSD. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html No really, you see Linux on the list every once in a while ;-) One thing I haven't seen enough mention made of in this context are a few interesting sites running FreeBSD. Let's see: everyone here should know about Yahoo.com by now... Then there's apache.org: http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/Reports/200211/developers/apache.html Netcraft themselves: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.netcraft.com Lets see: that's the biggest site on the Internet (or so I hear --- certainly it's in the top ten), the people who make the world's most popular HTTP server software and the people whose business it is to know just about everything there is to know about web serving. Cheers, Matthew -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Apple seems to think pretty highly of FreeBSD. And there are the oft-repeated rumors that WinNT/2000/XP all use the BSD TCP stack. Having used both, I would never choose Linux over FreeBSD. Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? F5 Systems based their load balancers/switches on BSD and a follow-on company started by one of the founders (Ahaza Systems, now defunct) was going to build IPv6-aware switching gear based on FreeBSD. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ She missed an invaluable opportunity to give him a look that you could have poured on a waffle ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the questions list. # Adam (12.01.2002 @ 1025 PST): paul beard said, in 1.3K: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Apple seems to think pretty highly of FreeBSD. And there are the oft-repeated rumors that WinNT/2000/XP all use the BSD TCP stack. Having used both, I would never choose Linux over FreeBSD. Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? F5 Systems based their load balancers/switches on BSD and a follow-on company started by one of the founders (Ahaza Systems, now defunct) was going to build IPv6-aware switching gear based on FreeBSD. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ She missed an invaluable opportunity to give him a look that you could have poured on a waffle ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message end of Re: List of big names ... from paul beard - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx[EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bayer Berkeley[EMAIL PROTECTED] #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE96lkVo8KM2ULHQ/0RAoSkAJ9VHv0u6N6ahmDwaDmGjGCSdG1/BQCePjaE 4DtZY1Pkdemk1n/mLi68d2k= =sAJh -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 11:00:04PM -0800, paul beard wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... All those unique special effects in The Maltrix were helped along by FreeBSD based computers...:) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: List of big names ...
Adam Weinberger wrote: Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the questions list. FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that it was posted to -questions, and Bcc:'ed to -advocacy. If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster, which the headers claim is Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
List of big names ...
Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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Marc G. Fournier wrote: Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? you probably would be better to take this up on -advocacy. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ Have you noticed the way people's intelligence capabilities decline sharply the minute they start waving guns around? -- Dr. Who To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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Marc G. Fournier wrote: Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling behind Linux ... But are they making money on the product itself, or doing it for the free column space the trade press gives you when you mention Linux, because htey're looking for someone to fight the neighborhood bully, Microsoft? Everyone loves an underdog. IBM bought Whistle Communications for it's product based on FreeBSD; can you name a company that IBM bought that had a product based on Linux? HP and Bruce Perens parted ways. Sun is a hardware company. Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? I wrote an article that was published by Daemon News, about using Open Source in embedded systems, which covered the license issues. There's also the gallery: http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
