Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Bill Moran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Patrick Crosby wrote: Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. This is the standard weird hangs answer, forgive me if you've already checked these: 1) Does is hang on other hardware as well or just this machine? i'm the only one in the office running CURRENT, and since it is hanging more than 5.1 was, i told everyone else to wait before upgrading. but a coworker (with different hardware [single processor], but also AMD-based) does get hangs like mine. 2) Have you checked the RAM with memtest86 or similar? yes. 3) Have you ensured the hardware isn't overheating? i've checked the cpu temp and it is fine. 4) Is the box in question on a UPS? yes. These seem to be the most common problems with FreeBSD hanging. I know none of them have much to do with FreeBSD, but that's just the statistical reality of it. If the answer to #1 indicates an issue with this particular machine, it could still be a problem with FreeBSD on that particular hardware. #4 is a rarity, but I've seen crappy power cause weird problems. Undersized power supplies can cause similar problems. so i should try running with it off the UPS? the power supply should be ok. fwiw, the coworker who also gets hangs is *not* on a UPS. it could be a building power weirdness (which is why i plugged into the UPS to begin with)... would rebuilding the kernel with INVARIANTS or WITNESS help at all? thanks. patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
What I can say to this problem is : - I've open a bug report : 66098 mainly for the same reason : I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1 patch 5 with a fresh build world (it took me 3 days to have world since gcc was hanging the machine all 5 minutes approximatly) on an SMP machine with two PIII 733 and a BIOS compatible SMP 1.4 specs (the motherboard is an MSI board) with feature like PM enable and APIC enable. The first think I face out was when I shutdown the machine shutdown -h or -r my machine hangs at stopping .. vnlru stopped after nothing I 've seen that this allways hang when boot() is called on cpu1 and that when sometime when boot is called from cpu0 my machine can stop or reboot correctly. But boot on cpu1 represent 98% of my tests. Some days after, when I was running an heavy compilation, I face out severals machine hangs. So I've started to investigate temperature problem, RAM problem disk, etc... Just to be sure, I've reinstall this machine under Linux with a 2.6 Kernel. No problems. So I come back to FreeBSD from a fresh install and start investigating acpi. Since now 2 weeks, the machine never hangs with just one trick (a bad trick for sure) : acpiconf -d . I've disabled acpi management. I let boot the machine and setting up acpi conf since the acpi.ko module is load at boot time and in the final boot process I disable acpi with this command. May be you could test to see if you experience allways the same problem or if that's solved the problem and report here the problem. I think acpi code witch seems to be recent in FreeBSD have some problem may be due to specific management or bugs of our cheapset : mine is a VIA694. I remember that under Linux it took a long time to have a stable machine with acpi enable (in fact this was stabilize when IBM and Intel provide some code to handle acpi) : acpi code was clean but this was how specs were implemented on cheapset that was breaking code So they had to handle some specific chipset feature ... Another way to test could be to disable PM in Bios for a limited time to know if the problem persist. just my two cents. Thierry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
This isn't a laptop, it's a dual-processor desktop w/ two athlon mp 2600's. But I monitored the temperature all day long today. It hasn't fluctuated more than a degree, and yet I just got another hang (while compiling). The temperature of the cpus and motherboard was the same that it was all day long... Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks. Patrick Ray Seals ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:10, Patrick Crosby wrote: Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
* Patrick Crosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-05 12:10]: This isn't a laptop, it's a dual-processor desktop w/ two athlon mp 2600's. But I monitored the temperature all day long today. It hasn't fluctuated more than a degree, and yet I just got another hang (while compiling). The temperature of the cpus and motherboard was the same that it was all day long... Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks. Patrick Ray Seals ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. [from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html] [snip] It is now possible to specify a -j option to make which will cause it to spawn several simultaneous processes. This is most useful on multi-CPU machines. However, since much of the compiling process is IO bound rather than CPU bound it is also useful on single CPU machines. On a typical single-CPU machine you would run: # make -j4 buildworld make(1) will then have up to 4 processes running at any one time. Empirical evidence posted to the mailing lists shows this generally gives the best performance benefit. If you have a multi-CPU machine and you are using an SMP configured kernel try values between 6 and 10 and see how they speed things up. Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. [/snip] -- Joshua Mmm Jar-Jar; everyone hates you, but me. -- Comic Book Guy ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Joshua Lokken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html] [snip] [snip] # make -j4 buildworld [snip] Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Patrick Crosby wrote: Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. This is the standard weird hangs answer, forgive me if you've already checked these: 1) Does is hang on other hardware as well or just this machine? 2) Have you checked the RAM with memtest86 or similar? 3) Have you ensured the hardware isn't overheating? 4) Is the box in question on a UPS? These seem to be the most common problems with FreeBSD hanging. I know none of them have much to do with FreeBSD, but that's just the statistical reality of it. If the answer to #1 indicates an issue with this particular machine, it could still be a problem with FreeBSD on that particular hardware. #4 is a rarity, but I've seen crappy power cause weird problems. Undersized power supplies can cause similar problems. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Patrick Crosby wrote: Joshua Lokken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html] [snip] [snip] # make -j4 buildworld [snip] Be aware that this is still somewhat experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. this isn't for a 'make -j4 buildworld', it's for compilation of the software i'm developing...i got two cpu's to speed up a 45 minute build process... and, it hangs at other times as well, just most consistently during compilation. i'm trying to help find what is causing this so that freebsd can improve. Don't know that this will help you at all, but I'm running dual Athlon MP2800s, ASUS A7M266-D m/b, 1Gbyte RAM with a month old -CURRENT and have just built Mozilla, Firefox, and Thunderbird back to back and updated a few ports at the same time without any hangs so the problem isn't specific to all dual Athlon setups. BTW, what do you use to monitor CPU temps in FreeBSD? Regards, Mark patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:10, Patrick Crosby wrote: Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
I'm also running 5.2.1. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: athlon-mp daily hang 5.2.1
Check out this PowerNow! patch/module, http://demira.shopkeeper.de/~sascha/nx9005/ Its supposed to automatically set processor voltage depending on the hw.powernow.state set in the kernel. I havent got it to work automatically but I can manually set it to state 2 or 3 and the tempeture and fan noise drop down dramatically. Note that you do sacrifice speed for heat and noise. To me this is not an issue, my XP 1600 is still fast running at 1ghz for my needs. I just got started programming so I cant help out :), yet... maybe some of our smart delevopers will look into it further. Jose Lima On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:32, Ray Seals wrote: I have the same problem with my laptop. I'm running an AthlonXP-M. My problem is due to overheating. The machine hangs for 30 seconds and then runs for about 30 minutes and then hangs again. Then it powers itself off. Ray On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:10, Patrick Crosby wrote: Just about every day, my FreeBSD system hangs. I set up dumpdev/dumpdir, but I never get anything in /var/crashes. I'm not sure what to do to debug the problem. It usually happens during a 'gmake -j4...', but has happened at other times as well. What can I do to get more information about what is causing the hang? I have the following in rc.conf to try to get a kernel crash dump: dumpdev=/dev/ad0s1b dumpdir=/var/crash And I'm running a kernel with debug symbols. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 with 2 athlon mp processors, using the GENERIC kernel config file (except I commented out INET6 so that firefox will resolve domains in a timely fashion): ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD APIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ (2000.08-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1033003008 (985 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 1 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Thanks. Patrick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sunday 29 February 2004 19:12, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? 1) yes, athlons are i386 machines. 2) you should read your /var/run/dmesg.boot if it is i586 or i686 processor -- DanGer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Athlon
It's an i386 Architecture yes, the processor is not an 80386 if you ment that. I think you can select i686 if a 1.4Ghz machine (i think you ment that instead of Mhz?) But setting the defaults will also work :) Cheers, -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder Elvandar.org/DSINet.org www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the hackerscene mrtg.grunn.org Dutch mirror of MRTG -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Teilhard Knight Verzonden: zondag 29 februari 2004 19:12 Aan: FreeBSD Onderwerp: Athlon Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:12:02PM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? One of these? CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1400.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PA T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! As /var/run/dmesg.boot says, it's a 686 class processor. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Athlon
On 29-Feb-2004 Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? I use an Athlon here, myself. In my kernel config, I have: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU# aka Pentium Pro(tm) options CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU options CPU_UPGRADE_HW_CACHE options CPU_WT_ALLOC options NO_MEMORY_HOLE And in /etc/make.conf: CPUTYPE?=k7 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe HTH. -- Conrad Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In Unix veritas ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:36 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:12:02PM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? One of these? CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1400.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MC A,CMOV,PA T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! As /var/run/dmesg.boot says, it's a 686 class processor. I was going to send one of these but then I got to thinking about what you needed to know before you download an iso or whatever. The web site really doesn't tell you that an Athlon is a 686 and you need to know that before you do the install and can look at the dmesg output. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
- Original Message - From: DanGer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Athlon On Sunday 29 February 2004 19:12, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? 1) yes, athlons are i386 machines. 2) you should read your /var/run/dmesg.boot if it is i586 or i686 processor Right, I'll read that file. Thanks so much for the feedback. Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
It's an i386 Architecture yes, the processor is not an 80386 if you ment that. I think you can select i686 if a 1.4Ghz machine (i think you ment that instead of Mhz?) But setting the defaults will also work :) I guess you composed your reply twice. Thaks so much for taking the time. Teilhard Cheers, -- Kind regards,___ 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On 29-Feb-2004 Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? I use an Athlon here, myself. In my kernel config, I have: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU# aka Pentium Pro(tm) options CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU options CPU_UPGRADE_HW_CACHE options CPU_WT_ALLOC options NO_MEMORY_HOLE And in /etc/make.conf: CPUTYPE?=k7 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe Thanks a lot. This info will help me very much. I have compiled a kernel for a Pentium IV 1.6 GHz, and I had no problems. I hope this time I can make it right too. Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon
On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:36 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:12:02PM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: Just a couple of easy questions for you. Is a machine with an Athlon processor 1.4 MHz an i386 machine? And if so, what kind of processor should I select in my kernel? i586, or i686? One of these? CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1400.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MC A,CMOV,PA T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow! As /var/run/dmesg.boot says, it's a 686 class processor. I was going to send one of these but then I got to thinking about what you needed to know before you download an iso or whatever. The web site really doesn't tell you that an Athlon is a 686 and you need to know that before you do the install and can look at the dmesg output. Many thanks. Yes, the web site only speaks about Pentium. Couldn't find the info there. But now I know where I'm standing. Teilhard 30mb Web based, POP3 IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.ghostmailbox.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon to XP woes
jay desjardins writes: We have an asus A7V133 that had a 1.2 and 256 megs or memory. It's happily running 4.7 stable. I wanted to put an athlon XP chip and 1 gig more memory. The first thing I did was update the bios and then installed the chip and memory. Then when starting it got core dumps all over (sendmail getty, ect.). Then I removed the memory and still got the dumps. After I replaced the chip (XP1700) with the 1.2 and all the dumps stopped. When upgrading to a chip like that (athlon to XP) do I need to do something different to BSD so it will not flake out. Did you also upgrade the CPU cooler? This sounds like overheating to me. I've gone from a 1.2 MHz Athlon-C to a 1800+ XP w/o any problem, but I bought a new cooler. --- Gary Jennejohn / [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Athlon motherboard for 5.0?
On Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:01 AM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote I'm running 5.0-DP2 on an Asus motherboard with the Apollo KT133 chipset. The chipset is notoriously buggy, according to the folks on -current, and I've been having trouble with the USB and ATA controllers -- though it's intermittent and hard to reproduce. I've stumbled across a new 1.4Ghz Athlon Thunderbird chip, which doesn't work in my older motherboard. So, I'm in the market for a mobo. It's for a workstation, and integrated graphics and sound are not desired. It'd be nice if it took PC133 SDRAM, since I have 768MB here, but DDR is okay if necessary. But most importantly, everything on the motherboard needs to have good support in 5.0. Support in 4-stable is nice, but hardly a requirement. If this means sticking with an older, more conservative chipset, and sacrificing things like USB 2.0, Firewire, or fast AGP, it doesn't bother me at all. I'm not a gamer or a video producer; my motherboard is used solely to connect my CPU to RAM and cards. :-) Suggestions? Don't know about 5.0. I am currently running 4.7-RELEASE on an ASUS A7V333 with a 850 MHz Athlon TBird. Have had no problems so far with audio/video/LAN... There were some problems with the chipset when I was using 4.5-RELEASE, but i think they were fixed in 4.7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon motherboard for 5.0?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:17:41AM +0530, Gautham Ganapathy wrote: On Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:01 AM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote I'm running 5.0-DP2 on an Asus motherboard with the Apollo KT133 chipset. The chipset is notoriously buggy, according to the folks on -current, and I've been having trouble with the USB and ATA controllers -- though it's intermittent and hard to reproduce. I've stumbled across a new 1.4Ghz Athlon Thunderbird chip, which doesn't work in my older motherboard. So, I'm in the market for a mobo. It's for a workstation, and integrated graphics and sound are not desired. It'd be nice if it took PC133 SDRAM, since I have 768MB here, but DDR is okay if necessary. But most importantly, everything on the motherboard needs to have good support in 5.0. Support in 4-stable is nice, but hardly a requirement. If this means sticking with an older, more conservative chipset, and sacrificing things like USB 2.0, Firewire, or fast AGP, it doesn't bother me at all. I'm not a gamer or a video producer; my motherboard is used solely to connect my CPU to RAM and cards. :-) Suggestions? Don't know about 5.0. I am currently running 4.7-RELEASE on an ASUS A7V333 with a 850 MHz Athlon TBird. Have had no problems so far with audio/video/LAN... There were some problems with the chipset when I was using 4.5-RELEASE, but i think they were fixed in 4.7 I have a machine built around the A7V333-X using An Athlon 2000+XP. It came with onboard sound and Lan (which is not why I bought it). The sound works fine, the LAN not (but that does not worry me too much), It works fine otherwise. I had some initial problems due to the fact I made the mistake of building the machine on the floor instead of an a table while sitting in a comfy chair, this caused me to read some jumper settings the wrong way around .. *sigh*. I use DDR333 memory in it. The BIOS was a bit cranky at first, seeming to forget things..but that problem has gone away. Oh, the important part of your question .. 5.0 .. yes it runs on it. Although my testing has hardly been exhaustive yet, One of the problems I find with ASUS motherboards is that you get contradictory information on their web-site and in publicity blurb about what boards support what. In one place it would imply that my combination should not work well, in another place fine. I hesitate to recommend it, not because I have problems with it, but because for something like 5.0 you should probably get as many opinions as possible. Also 5.0 is quite new territory for me. Usually, since I now build my own network computers I do a test of installing FreeBSD, Linux and Windows on it. Apart from some issues I have questioned, but sadly received no reply about yet, concerning co-habitation of 4.7 and 5.0 on the same disk, and Linux moaning inconsequentially about not knowing what kind of South Bridge it had, Windows was by far and away the most problematic, Well I built it to eventually become a low traffic web/ftp server, so that is the way I am looking at it. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-10 15:43:36 -0700: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm looks like the solteks are fine. you might want to take DRV4 or DRV5. I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. i also wanted to buy asus when i was going for a new box, but during the research i found out that people were having trouble getting X up with some of the asus boards. X was essential since i was upgrading my desktop, so i went with abit KR7A (the no-raid version, VIA KT266A chipset), and i'm really happy with it. btw, there was a Athlon XP mobo test in the august issue of the czech Chip magazine, and they got the best numbers from a DFI AD76 RAID mobo. VIA KT333 chipset, Promise 20276, onboard sound (Realtek RTL8100). if i was buying a new mobo i would go for this one. (i have no experience with DFI mobos. maybe someone could chime in?) -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.7-RC 10:26AM up 23 days, 17:41, 21 users, load averages: 0.25, 0.22, 0.16 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, W. D. wrote: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:31:16 -0500 From: W. D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD At 17:43 10/10/2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin, wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Does anyone know what motherboards will work with an AMD chip(s) in a 1U rack mount server case? Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ Have you found a HowTo on rolling your own rackmount? I'd love to see it. I've been considering one of these for my house: http://eracks.com/eRacks/products/config?sku=PREMIUM JB # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. The A-Open AK77Pro runs very nicel with 4.6.2. I'm using vinum in Raid 1 on it and it's greased lightning. A friend who owns an ISP is using it all over his plant also. -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
At 08:18 10/11/2002, John Bleichert, wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, W. D. wrote: Does anyone know what motherboards will work with an AMD chip(s) in a 1U rack mount server case? Have you found a HowTo on rolling your own rackmount? I'd love to see it. I've been considering one of these for my house: http://eracks.com/eRacks/products/config?sku=PREMIUM Nice! Here are some monsters that would be nice to have if they worked with FreeBSD: http://www.ApPro.com/1124.html http://www.DualAthlonServers.com/103multiview/ Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
-Original Message- From: Jim Durham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Corey Holcomb-Hockin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:04:33 + (GMT) Subject: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. The A-Open AK77Pro runs very nicel with 4.6.2. I'm using vinum in Raid 1 on it and it's greased lightning. A friend who owns an ISP is using it all over his plant also. -Jim ** I noticed someone else in this thread replying that his A7A-133 worked OK. I have an ASUS A7V333 that works very nicely. Have you considered that it may just be XFree or video card problems and not the motherboard? Specifically, what problems are you having? Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? I just upgraded my FreeBSD system from an Abit KT7A-Raid to a MSI K7T266 Pro 2A board with an Athlon XP 1800+ (combo was $99 at Fry's a couple of weeks ago). This board will handle up to the 2600+ with the newer BIOS if I remember correctly. Smoothest upgrade I've ever done. No glitches, no bridge workarounds, no devices not found, nothing. Came up running the first time and is still there. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Kenneth Culver wrote: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Corey Holcomb-Hockin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? If your motherboard isn't working, then most likely there is some bios configuration that could be tweaked to fix the problem. That said I'm using an abit kx7-333 with an athlon xp 2000+ and have absolutely no problems at all. Someone didn't have the same troubles with soltek SL-75DRV2 http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/product/75drv2.htm I've bought asus card because my hp pavillion had a asus card with a via chipset. I read after that they don't document their boards so that open source developers can support all the features easily. Whats a more open motherboard brand? Are Via chipsets the best supported? The card I'm having trouble with has a acer chipset. I don't know how well FreeBSD supports the acer chipsets, but I've had no trouble with my via-based chipset. Ken Agreed - my VIA chipset works fine. The board is an A7V-133: johnnyb:~ dmesg | grep -i via pcib2: VIA 8363 (Apollo KT133) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 isab0: VIA 82C686 PCI-ISA bridge at device 4.0 on pci0 atapci0: VIA 82C686 ATA100 controller port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 5 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 I haven't fiddled with the onboard RAID at all. HTH - JB # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
At 17:43 10/10/2002, Corey Holcomb-Hockin, wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? Does anyone know what motherboards will work with an AMD chip(s) in a 1U rack mount server case? Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Athlon XP motherboards that work well with FreeBSD
I'll give a good nod to my current board, a Soyo SY-K7V Dragon Plus! VIA KT266A 100/133 FSB. It has onboard sound and LAN, but both are well supported, and can be put aside with a simple change under BIOS. It was a really good option for me, initially, because when I built this box, I was somewhat low on cash. The onboard stuff saved me a few $$$ early on, though i've since upgraded the sound card to a Soundblaster Live 5.1. It also has onboard RAID, and supports up to 3GB of PC2100 DDR-SDRAM. Very, very smooth little board, even with just 256MB. I haven't made use of the RAID yet, but from what I understand, it works just fine. Both the processor and mobo have come down quite a bit in price since I bought it, so you could probably get them cheaply from a place like newegg.com or directron.com...assuming you want something in the 1+ghz range. - erik On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:43:36 -0700 Corey Holcomb-Hockin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having trouble with my a7a-133. I had trouble with XFree86, and with a tv card. I'd like to know some motherboards that work well with FreeBSD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
