Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-26 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Robin Becker wrote:


The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm

They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only 
want Vista, OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for 
FreeBSD.


I have complained.

Last week I had to listen to a clueless *%$£ proclaim on Radio 4 that 
Linux was the first open source operating system, so I complained about 
that too!


Might not make a difference, but with the BBC at least there's a chance.

--Alex



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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-26 Thread perryh
 They finally got around to posting linux usage but are apparently
 biased or too STOOPIT! to acknowlege *BSD...which seem really odd
 as a netcraft query returns:

 Solaris 9/10  Apache/2.0.54 (Unix)  16-Jan-2007  212.58.224.116
 BBC Internet Services, Docklands.

This says nothing either way about the cluefulness of BBC's
broadcast division, but in any event Solaris != FreeBSD.

Solaris is a descendant of SVR4, complete with STREAMS (and likely
other assorted silliness -- in both the kernel and the userland).
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-26 Thread Martin Tournoij
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 08:54:44PM +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote:
 On 1/26/07, Grzegorz Pluta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 People from the media doesnt know that FreeBSD Unix exists.
 
 Rubbish. I have known about the existence of FreeBSD (and other BSD
 variants) for a great many years now.

I agree, when I started looking into alternatives to windows
(~3 years ago) I found more than enough information about *BSD, most of
which was pretty good to, since FreeBSD was the first alternative I
tried.
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Huff

Juha Saarinen writes:

   People from the media doesnt know that FreeBSD Unix exists.
  
  Rubbish. I have known about the existence of FreeBSD (and other BSD
  variants) for a great many years now.

Indeed.  Not long after Linux appeared on the radar of the
general public, the tech reporter for my local paper (which, being
the /Boston Globe/ is not quite as tech-challenged as most
publications, but even so) did a very nice and very accurate called
something like The most important OS you've never heard about.



Robert Huff
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-26 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri

On 1/26/07, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Juha Saarinen writes:

   People from the media doesnt know that FreeBSD Unix exists.

  Rubbish. I have known about the existence of FreeBSD (and other BSD
  variants) for a great many years now.

Indeed.  Not long after Linux appeared on the radar of the
general public, the tech reporter for my local paper (which, being
the /Boston Globe/ is not quite as tech-challenged as most
publications, but even so) did a very nice and very accurate called
something like The most important OS you've never heard about.



Robert Huff


I think PCBSD 1.3 and DesktopBSD 1.6 will change this soon, since they
are making FreeBSD desktop ready for workstations, pcs, and laptops

Check http://www.bsdstats.org/ and see PCBSD rank now ;)

The only thing is needed to boost FreeBSD image as a desktop ready OS
is missing Flash native player.

I have filled feature request in adobe to port Flash player to FreeBSD as well.

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Regards,

-Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
Arab Portal
http://www.WeArab.Net/
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RE: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Grzegorz Pluta
People from the media doesnt know that FreeBSD Unix exists.
All they talk about is windows and linux not really knowing the
difference... Its all stimulated by the apereance of windows vista. People
feel like discussing about it. Everyone knows that windows is ble and linux
is cool, that Bill getes is st00pid and Linus is smart.
Such public discussions wont bring anything new apart from dyletant
discussions in media.

Professionals will always kknow about FreeBSD and that's what matters, no?

Cheers,
greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Becker
 Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:27 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems
 
 The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm
 
 They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want
 Vista,
 OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.
 --
 Robin Becker


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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Robin Becker

Robin Becker wrote:

The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm

They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want 
Vista, OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.


unfortunately they already closed the applications so I guess FreeBSD will have 
to remain partially represented by some McFanBoy.

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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm
 
 They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want 
 Vista, 
 OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.

I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included.  I think
that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission.

-- 
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Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Robin Becker

Bill Moran wrote:

In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm

They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want Vista, 
OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.


I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included.  I think
that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission.

Where did you mail~ usually there's a link like tell us your opinion etc etc, 
but I could not see one on that page.

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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Bill Moran wrote:
  In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm
 
  They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want 
  Vista, 
  OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.
  
  I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included.  I think
  that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission.
  
 Where did you mail~ usually there's a link like tell us your opinion etc 
 etc, 
 but I could not see one on that page.

There is a generic contact us link a the _very_ bottom of the page that
takes you here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/feedback/default.stm

-- 
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread chris neill
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 02:11:53PM +, Robin Becker wrote:
 Robin Becker wrote:
 The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm
 
 unfortunately they already closed the applications so I guess FreeBSD will 
 have to remain partially represented by some McFanBoy.

Right, and we're a bunch of snobs anyway..
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Marco Muskus

2007/1/25, Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm

 They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want 
Vista,
 OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.

 I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included.  I think
 that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission.

Where did you mail~ usually there's a link like tell us your opinion etc etc,
but I could not see one on that page.
--
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There is no sense in trying to explain to the media what BSD means,
its like a try to run the NASCAR or the F1 with a Renault 4. Whats in
the media lately ? Linux vs Vista vs OS X, no more ... in fact in my
country a News channel show a report where they said Vista the most
advanced and powerfull OS of the world, how did you try to make the
world understand ?

I don`t think that the BBC will understand

We need a allied,


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Movil: 300 5705151
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Marco Muskus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2007/1/25, Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Bill Moran wrote:
   In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.
  
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm
  
   They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want 
   Vista,
   OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.
  
   I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included.  I think
   that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission.
  
  Where did you mail~ usually there's a link like tell us your opinion etc 
  etc,
  but I could not see one on that page.
 
 There is no sense in trying to explain to the media what BSD means,
 its like a try to run the NASCAR or the F1 with a Renault 4. Whats in
 the media lately ? Linux vs Vista vs OS X, no more ... in fact in my
 country a News channel show a report where they said Vista the most
 advanced and powerfull OS of the world, how did you try to make the
 world understand ?
 
 I don`t think that the BBC will understand

This is some really defeatist talk ... I mean, you're welcome to have your
opinion, but if you're this hopeless about everything ... man.

You should consider finding some hobbies that are fun, and lighten up
a bit.

-- 
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread FreeBSD WickerBill

On 1/25/07, Marco Muskus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2007/1/25, Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Bill Moran wrote:
  In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm
 
  They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only
want Vista,
  OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD.
 
  I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included.  I think
  that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission.
 
 Where did you mail~ usually there's a link like tell us your opinion
etc etc,
 but I could not see one on that page.
 --
 Robin Becker
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There is no sense in trying to explain to the media what BSD means,
its like a try to run the NASCAR or the F1 with a Renault 4. Whats in
the media lately ? Linux vs Vista vs OS X, no more ... in fact in my
country a News channel show a report where they said Vista the most
advanced and powerfull OS of the world, how did you try to make the
world understand ?

I don`t think that the BBC will understand

We need a allied,


--
Marco Muskus
Movil: 300 5705151
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I, and several of my friends addressed BSD advantages on their website. I
then wrote the next day complaining of only having a shoot-out with Windows
and OSX. They finally got around to posting linux usage but are apparently
biased or too STOOPIT! to acknowlege *BSD...which seem really odd as a
netcraft query returns:

Solaris 9/10  Apache/2.0.54 (Unix)  16-Jan-2007  212.58.224.116  BBC
Internet Services,
Docklands.http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=BBC-THDO-1,212.58.224.0,212.58.224.255
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Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems

2007-01-25 Thread Juha Saarinen

On 1/26/07, Grzegorz Pluta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

People from the media doesnt know that FreeBSD Unix exists.


Rubbish. I have known about the existence of FreeBSD (and other BSD
variants) for a great many years now.

--
Juha
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha
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