Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
On Feb 18, 2005, at 12:50 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:34 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: 'Mikhail Teterin'; Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent; List Free Bsd Subject: Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Robert, Hmm - The Mac source (I assume your talking Mac OS X) would probably be the best to start with. It might be a very easy port to whatever version of FreeBSD was used for the version of Mac OS X you wrote the driver for. Mac OS X is not based on FreeBSD. Whoah there Chad! Please refer to the following website, guy!: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/ OSX_Technology _Overview/index.html Note the following statement there: ...Beneath the appealing, easy-to-use interface of Mac OS X is a rock-solid, UNIX-based foundation called Darwin that is engineered for stability, reliability, and performance. Darwin integrates a number of technologies, most importantly Mach 3.0, operating-system services based on FreeBSD 5, --^^ It has a BSD user layer and compatibility layer and they DO use the FreeBSD userland for their own, No, a lot more than that, see Darwin. Yes, there is a BSD personality mode that offers (some) kernel services use BSD APIs. This is so the userland works right and sees what it expects. And so that BSD style sys utils like sysctl will work and stuff. Still a layer on top of a totally different architecture. but the driver level is MUCH different. I know that, but that is today, not yesterday. Bob stated the old open source driver, I took that to mean a version 1.0 driver released for the first ever version of MacOS X. Even if it was an old driver made for the first ever version of MacOS X, the driver level interfaces are much different so I don't see much how it would help you. Mind you, I have not written a driver for OS X or FreeBSD, but the opposite question often comes up on some OS X forums/lists I read... best regards Chad I didn't know this card and service was a new thing. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Hi Robert and Mikhail, Mikhail, make sure the following is in your kernel configuration file and recompile the kernel, then post the dmesg output. This should get your card recognized although it probably isn't going to be recognized as a modem. But if we see the dmesg output there might be enough info to suggest a mod to get it recognized as a modem: device ohci # General USB code (mandatory for USB) device usb # Generic USB device driver device ugen # USB modem support device umodem # USB com devices device ucom device uplcom device uvscom device uftdi # debugging options for the USB subsystem # options USB_DEBUG Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:36 PM To: 'Mikhail Teterin' Cc: List Free Bsd Subject: RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Welll... Yes... The EVDO system technically DOES work on FREEBSD... BUT.. You have to personally modify the Old Open Source Mac driver to do it... OR.. Just mod the Linux driver... Tell you what... Since I don't have a copy... If anyone does this... And gets me a working driver ... I will get you a FREE EVDO card... And 3 free months of service... Lemme know.. X Robert Kim, Verizon Wireless Agent (TM) http://EVDO-Coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 206 984 0880 Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo--- ;-) -Original Message- From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:21 PM To: Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Subject: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) Is there EVDO-hardware, that works with FreeBSD? Thanks! -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Hi Robert and Mikhail, Mikhail, make sure the following is in your kernel configuration file and recompile the kernel, then post the dmesg output. This should get your card recognized although it probably isn't going to be recognized as a modem. But if we see the dmesg output there might be enough info to suggest a mod to get it recognized as a modem: Wait, I don't a card yet :-) I was just trying to find out, whether I should bother obtaining one... Ted, would you take Robert's offer for the benefit of FreeBSD users (and that of Verizon)? Assuming, Robert is willing to loan the card first, of course :-) -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Ted, Mi, Sure.. I've got one extra that I normally rent out... But if you guys would like... I can mail it to one of you and just pass it on to the next guy in a week... In fact.. .why don't we just create a loaner schedule... Who wants to go first? The card is live... And is costing me $79/m so if you'd like a $15 contribution is welcome but not necessary... My goal is to get a DRIVER for the thing in FreeBSD... Daisy chain every 7 days??? bob X Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikhail Teterin Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:32 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Hi Robert and Mikhail, Mikhail, make sure the following is in your kernel configuration file and recompile the kernel, then post the dmesg output. This should get your card recognized although it probably isn't going to be recognized as a modem. But if we see the dmesg output there might be enough info to suggest a mod to get it recognized as a modem: Wait, I don't a card yet :-) I was just trying to find out, whether I should bother obtaining one... Ted, would you take Robert's offer for the benefit of FreeBSD users (and that of Verizon)? Assuming, Robert is willing to loan the card first, of course :-) -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Ted, Mi, Sure.. I've got one extra that I normally rent out... But if you guys would like... I can mail it to one of you and just pass it on to the next guy in a week... In fact.. .why don't we just create a loaner schedule... Who wants to go first? The card is live... And is costing me $79/m so if you'd like a $15 contribution is welcome but not necessary... My goal is to get a DRIVER for the thing in FreeBSD... Daisy chain every 7 days??? bob Sounds like, of the two of us, Ted would be more capable of getting it to work. Unless he has no time to spare, he should get it. And if Ted or somebody else does modify FreeBSD (and/or publishes easy to follow how-to instructions) for EVDO ends up working with my 5-stable Vaio laptop, I'll either buy a minimum of $150 worth of service through you, Robert, or just send you a check for $30. Your company will also be able to claim a spot on the FreeBSD's list of hardware vendors, whatever that may be worth :-) -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
-Original Message- From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:32 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Hi Robert and Mikhail, Mikhail, make sure the following is in your kernel configuration file and recompile the kernel, then post the dmesg output. This should get your card recognized although it probably isn't going to be recognized as a modem. But if we see the dmesg output there might be enough info to suggest a mod to get it recognized as a modem: Wait, I don't a card yet :-) I was just trying to find out, whether I should bother obtaining one... Aha. I assumed you had a card already. Ted, would you take Robert's offer for the benefit of FreeBSD users (and that of Verizon)? Assuming, Robert is willing to loan the card first, of course :-) I don't have a laptop, sorry. But, in any case, Mikhail, since your interested in the outcome, that really makes you the absolute best candidate. :-) Why don't you go ahead and borrow Robert's card for a couple weeks. My guess is that it will be recognized out of the box under FreeBSD as an unknown USB serial port - in which case you can attach to it with the USB tty driver and away you go. If it isn't, it should be an extremely trivial matter to post the output of dmesg and such to the USB mailing list, and one of the developers can tell you what source file to modify. We are probably only talking about 1 or 2 lines of code to just add the probe into it. They are going to need a beta tester anyway. If you don't take the card then Robert has the task of getting one of the USB developers interested in doing it, and knowing the proliferation of USB devices on the market, all of them probably have a stack of evauliation gear that is waiting for attention. Since you are personally interested your going to take the time to handle the hardware and you obviously already have a laptop with FreeBSD setup on it. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Ted.. Your modesty and conservative approach is noble... BUT... If you can dev this thing.. Ill throw in a PCI to PCMCIA adapter for your desktop... And you can keep it.. :o) So you're not getting out of it that easy... (big smiles) X Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Welll... Yes... The EVDO system technically DOES work on FREEBSD... BUT.. You have to personally modify the Old Open Source Mac driver to do it... OR.. Just mod the Linux driver... Tell you what... Since I don't have a copy... If anyone does this... And gets me a working driver ... I will get you a FREE EVDO card... And 3 free months of service... Lemme know.. X Robert Kim, Verizon Wireless Agent (TM) http://EVDO-Coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 206 984 0880 Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo--- ;-) -Original Message- From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:21 PM To: Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Subject: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) Is there EVDO-hardware, that works with FreeBSD? Thanks! -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
Robert, Hmm - The Mac source (I assume your talking Mac OS X) would probably be the best to start with. It might be a very easy port to whatever version of FreeBSD was used for the version of Mac OS X you wrote the driver for. FreeBSD 3.X was used as the base for the original merge of Next code. I don't know how much divergence there's been since then. If your lucky with little effort a FreeBSD 3.5 or early 4.x driver might be had. With a bit more effort that could be ported to the current FreeBSD source tree. Are you sure that the EVDO card doesen't use an off-the-shelf ethernet or wireless controller chip already? Is there a URL for the Mac driver source code? Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:36 PM To: 'Mikhail Teterin' Cc: List Free Bsd Subject: RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Welll... Yes... The EVDO system technically DOES work on FREEBSD... BUT.. You have to personally modify the Old Open Source Mac driver to do it... OR.. Just mod the Linux driver... Tell you what... Since I don't have a copy... If anyone does this... And gets me a working driver ... I will get you a FREE EVDO card... And 3 free months of service... Lemme know.. X Robert Kim, Verizon Wireless Agent (TM) http://EVDO-Coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 206 984 0880 Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo--- ;-) -Original Message- From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:21 PM To: Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Subject: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) Is there EVDO-hardware, that works with FreeBSD? Thanks! -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Robert, Hmm - The Mac source (I assume your talking Mac OS X) would probably be the best to start with. It might be a very easy port to whatever version of FreeBSD was used for the version of Mac OS X you wrote the driver for. Mac OS X is not based on FreeBSD. It has a BSD user layer and compatibility layer and they DO use the FreeBSD userland for their own, but the driver level is MUCH different. Chad FreeBSD 3.X was used as the base for the original merge of Next code. I don't know how much divergence there's been since then. If your lucky with little effort a FreeBSD 3.5 or early 4.x driver might be had. With a bit more effort that could be ported to the current FreeBSD source tree. Are you sure that the EVDO card doesen't use an off-the-shelf ethernet or wireless controller chip already? Is there a URL for the Mac driver source code? Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:36 PM To: 'Mikhail Teterin' Cc: List Free Bsd Subject: RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Welll... Yes... The EVDO system technically DOES work on FREEBSD... BUT.. You have to personally modify the Old Open Source Mac driver to do it... OR.. Just mod the Linux driver... Tell you what... Since I don't have a copy... If anyone does this... And gets me a working driver ... I will get you a FREE EVDO card... And 3 free months of service... Lemme know.. X Robert Kim, Verizon Wireless Agent (TM) http://EVDO-Coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 206 984 0880 Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo--- ;-) -Original Message- From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:21 PM To: Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent Subject: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) Is there EVDO-hardware, that works with FreeBSD? Thanks! -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD wireless internet
Hmmm... Anyone know how to mod either driver? I will supply them in my next e... Just gathering... X Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.htm 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service(tm) OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalo -;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD
-Original Message- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:34 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: 'Mikhail Teterin'; Robert Kim, EVDO-Coverage, Verizon Agent; List Free Bsd Subject: Re: Verizon's EVDO and FreeBSD On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Robert, Hmm - The Mac source (I assume your talking Mac OS X) would probably be the best to start with. It might be a very easy port to whatever version of FreeBSD was used for the version of Mac OS X you wrote the driver for. Mac OS X is not based on FreeBSD. Whoah there Chad! Please refer to the following website, guy!: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/OSX_Technology _Overview/index.html Note the following statement there: ...Beneath the appealing, easy-to-use interface of Mac OS X is a rock-solid, UNIX-based foundation called Darwin that is engineered for stability, reliability, and performance. Darwin integrates a number of technologies, most importantly Mach 3.0, operating-system services based on FreeBSD 5, --^^ It has a BSD user layer and compatibility layer and they DO use the FreeBSD userland for their own, No, a lot more than that, see Darwin. but the driver level is MUCH different. I know that, but that is today, not yesterday. Bob stated the old open source driver, I took that to mean a version 1.0 driver released for the first ever version of MacOS X. I didn't know this card and service was a new thing. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
