Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-17 Thread Matthew Navarre


On Jun 16, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Matthew Navarre wrote:



On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Micah wrote:


Matthew Navarre wrote:
I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been  
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact  
it just paniced now, with no activity.

The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte
This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got  
random apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory. I  
installed new memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM* panic:  
bad pte
I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not  
software but I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd  
appreciate it.

Machine details:
AMD Sempron
ECS K8M800-M2 mainboard
1 GB Kingston PC-3200.
Thanks,
Matt


First, a quick Google of bad pte turns up some ideas. Try  
disabling or changing APIC and/or ACPI settings.  Make sure your  
swap partition is error free and has enough room.  Google a bit  
more just on the lists.freebsd.org site for several possibilities.


Yeah, I was wondering if it might be something in the BIOS  
settings. I'll google around and see what I find. I don't know if  
the first panic was a bad pte error since the machine was running  
headless.




For hardware, you can try memtest86+ to check to make sure the new  
memory is good. There are other stress tests you can run as well -  
I usually use the ultimate boot CD for that stuff. Other possible  
problems are faulty or too small power supply; too much heat on  
CPU, RAM, or expansion boards; faulty expansion cards and/or  
components; or faulty hard drive.


I kinda wondered if heat might be an issue, since it was kind of  
tucked away in a spot with bad airflow. I'll try the memtest thing.  
Is there a way to get the CPU temp in FreeBSD?


Meh. let's see if this thing'll actually compile...\


 Gahhh!
# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/memtest86
# sudo make install
*snip*

* Usage:
*
* 1) Insert blank floppy
* 2) dd if=/usr/local/share/memtest86/floppy.bin of=/dev/fd0
* 3) Boot the floppy

which would be all well and good if this machine actually had a  
damned floppy drive.


C'mon kids. Let's catch up to the late 90's

*BAM*
savecore: writing core to vmcore.5

*HATE*
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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-17 Thread Matthew Navarre


On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:33 PM, Micah wrote:


Matthew Navarre wrote:

On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Micah wrote:

Matthew Navarre wrote:
I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been  
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact  
it just paniced now, with no activity.

The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte
This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got  
random apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory.  
I installed new memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM*  
panic: bad pte
I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not  
software but I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd  
appreciate it.

Machine details:
AMD Sempron
ECS K8M800-M2 mainboard
1 GB Kingston PC-3200.
Thanks,
Matt


First, a quick Google of bad pte turns up some ideas. Try  
disabling or changing APIC and/or ACPI settings.  Make sure your  
swap partition is error free and has enough room.  Google a bit  
more just on the lists.freebsd.org site for several possibilities.
Yeah, I was wondering if it might be something in the BIOS  
settings. I'll google around and see what I find. I don't know if  
the first panic was a bad pte error since the machine was running  
headless.


For hardware, you can try memtest86+ to check to make sure the  
new memory is good. There are other stress tests you can run as  
well - I usually use the ultimate boot CD for that stuff. Other  
possible problems are faulty or too small power supply; too much  
heat on CPU, RAM, or expansion boards; faulty expansion cards and/ 
or components; or faulty hard drive.
I kinda wondered if heat might be an issue, since it was kind of  
tucked away in a spot with bad airflow. I'll try the memtest  
thing. Is there a way to get the CPU temp in FreeBSD?


As mentioned, mbmon might work, but don't think that CPU is the  
only generator of heat. I had random reboots due to an overheating  
graphics card once. A spot thermometer comes in handy at a time  
like this.


Eh. I think it's time to find the receipt and make the computer store  
fix this POS. I think that's the last time I buy cheap crap hardware.


Thanks again,
Matt
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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-17 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Chris Hill wrote:


On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Matthew Navarre wrote:


Is there a way to get the CPU temp in FreeBSD?



sysutils/mbmon


And if that doesn't work, try healthd.

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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-17 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Matthew Navarre wrote:





* Usage:
*
* 1) Insert blank floppy
* 2) dd if=/usr/local/share/memtest86/floppy.bin of=/dev/fd0
* 3) Boot the floppy

which would be all well and good if this machine actually had a  
damned floppy drive.


C'mon kids. Let's catch up to the late 90's


Google for memtest86, go to the website for memtest86+ and download the 
ISO, burn to CD.  The freebsd port is just out-of-date.


Might be better done from a reliable PC :-)

--Alex


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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-17 Thread Matthew Navarre


On Jun 17, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


Micah wrote:


Matthew Navarre wrote:

I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been  
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact  
it just paniced now, with no activity.


The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte

This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got  
random apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory. I  
installed new memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM* panic:  
bad pte


I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not  
software but I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd  
appreciate it.




Yup, looks like a bad memory slot along with a bad stick of RAM. I  
switched slots and installed a known-good stick of RAM and was able  
to build world. So I need to get the mainboard replaced, but at least  
it's not falling over in a stiff breeze.


Stupid hardware.

Thanks, guys
Matt

As well as the things mentioned, it could also be a bad memory slot  
(rather than chip), so try with one chip in one slot; if it still  
fails, one chip in another slot; if it fails another chip in one  
slot etc.  It could be a combination :-(


--Alex




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Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-16 Thread Matthew Navarre
I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been  
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact it  
just paniced now, with no activity.


The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte

This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got  
random apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory. I  
installed new memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM* panic: bad  
pte


I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not software  
but I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd appreciate it.


Machine details:
AMD Sempron
ECS K8M800-M2 mainboard
1 GB Kingston PC-3200.

Thanks,
Matt
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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-16 Thread Micah

Matthew Navarre wrote:
I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been 
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact it just 
paniced now, with no activity.


The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte

This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got random 
apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory. I installed new 
memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM* panic: bad pte


I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not software but 
I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd appreciate it.


Machine details:
AMD Sempron
ECS K8M800-M2 mainboard
1 GB Kingston PC-3200.

Thanks,
Matt


First, a quick Google of bad pte turns up some ideas. Try disabling or 
changing APIC and/or ACPI settings.  Make sure your swap partition is 
error free and has enough room.  Google a bit more just on the 
lists.freebsd.org site for several possibilities.


For hardware, you can try memtest86+ to check to make sure the new 
memory is good. There are other stress tests you can run as well - I 
usually use the ultimate boot CD for that stuff. Other possible problems 
are faulty or too small power supply; too much heat on CPU, RAM, or 
expansion boards; faulty expansion cards and/or components; or faulty 
hard drive.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-16 Thread Matthew Navarre


On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Micah wrote:


Matthew Navarre wrote:
I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been  
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact it  
just paniced now, with no activity.

The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte
This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got  
random apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory. I  
installed new memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM* panic:  
bad pte
I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not  
software but I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd  
appreciate it.

Machine details:
AMD Sempron
ECS K8M800-M2 mainboard
1 GB Kingston PC-3200.
Thanks,
Matt


First, a quick Google of bad pte turns up some ideas. Try  
disabling or changing APIC and/or ACPI settings.  Make sure your  
swap partition is error free and has enough room.  Google a bit  
more just on the lists.freebsd.org site for several possibilities.


Yeah, I was wondering if it might be something in the BIOS settings.  
I'll google around and see what I find. I don't know if the first  
panic was a bad pte error since the machine was running headless.




For hardware, you can try memtest86+ to check to make sure the new  
memory is good. There are other stress tests you can run as well -  
I usually use the ultimate boot CD for that stuff. Other possible  
problems are faulty or too small power supply; too much heat on  
CPU, RAM, or expansion boards; faulty expansion cards and/or  
components; or faulty hard drive.


I kinda wondered if heat might be an issue, since it was kind of  
tucked away in a spot with bad airflow. I'll try the memtest thing.  
Is there a way to get the CPU temp in FreeBSD?


Meh. let's see if this thing'll actually compile...

Thanks, Micah


Matt
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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-16 Thread Chris Hill

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Matthew Navarre wrote:


Is there a way to get the CPU temp in FreeBSD?


sysutils/mbmon

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Re: Random panics on FreeeBSD 6.0

2006-06-16 Thread Micah

Matthew Navarre wrote:


On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Micah wrote:


Matthew Navarre wrote:
I've got an AMD Sempron machine running FreeBSD 6.0 that's been 
experiencing random panics while trying to build world. In fact it 
just paniced now, with no activity.

The panic message is TPTE at 0xbfc20624 IS ZERO @ VA 0810
bad pte
This started last night while I was portupgrading ruby and I got 
random apps segfaulting, mostly gcc, so I suspected bad memory. I 
installed new memory today, tried to buildworld. And *BAM* panic: bad 
pte
I'm still guessing that this is a hardware problem, and not software 
but I'm not sure. If anyone can give me a clue I'd appreciate it.

Machine details:
AMD Sempron
ECS K8M800-M2 mainboard
1 GB Kingston PC-3200.
Thanks,
Matt


First, a quick Google of bad pte turns up some ideas. Try disabling 
or changing APIC and/or ACPI settings.  Make sure your swap partition 
is error free and has enough room.  Google a bit more just on the 
lists.freebsd.org site for several possibilities.


Yeah, I was wondering if it might be something in the BIOS settings. 
I'll google around and see what I find. I don't know if the first panic 
was a bad pte error since the machine was running headless.




For hardware, you can try memtest86+ to check to make sure the new 
memory is good. There are other stress tests you can run as well - I 
usually use the ultimate boot CD for that stuff. Other possible 
problems are faulty or too small power supply; too much heat on CPU, 
RAM, or expansion boards; faulty expansion cards and/or components; or 
faulty hard drive.


I kinda wondered if heat might be an issue, since it was kind of tucked 
away in a spot with bad airflow. I'll try the memtest thing. Is there a 
way to get the CPU temp in FreeBSD?


As mentioned, mbmon might work, but don't think that CPU is the only 
generator of heat. I had random reboots due to an overheating graphics 
card once. A spot thermometer comes in handy at a time like this.


HTH,
Micah
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