Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-18 Thread Steve Randall
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:54:45 -0800 (PST)
ThinkDifferently jer...@futurecis.com wrote:

 
 
 Polytropon wrote:
  
  
  ThinkDifferently wrote:
  hptrr: no controller detected.
  
  It looks like there's a proble with the hptrr driver? Have you
  tried loading the HighPoint RocketRAID device drive by putting
  
  hptrr_load=YES
  
  into /boot/loader.conf?
  
  Further information can be obtained by:
  
  % man hptrr
  
  Check if your particular controller is supported.
  
 
 I went back to this, using my USB boot device and edited /boot/loader.conf
 to have hptrr_load=YES.  Still, no joy.
 
 Also, I've been able to determine that I don't have a RocketRAID device. 
 That's a separate RAID card, and I simply don't have one.  What I have is an
 onboard NVIDIA NForce Storage Controller.  I'm befuddled as to why FreeBSD
 thinks I have RocketRAID.

It doesn't. FreeBSD DOES include the hptrr driver (among many others)
in the generic kernel. Most drivers remain quiet when they find nothing
to drive, but not hptrr. The message confirms that you DON'T have
RocketRAID, and gives no insight into your problem.

I can't really help you with that. I can tell you that FreeBSD 7.0
works fine on my nForce 630a chipset, though I do not have it
configured for RAID, only AHCI. Your 720a chipset is newer, perhaps
too new to be supported by FreeBSD 7.0. You might want to give 7.1 a
try. You might also check if your BIOS is up to date, in case the
problem is there.

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-18 Thread ThinkDifferently


Steve Randall-2 wrote:
 
 
 ThinkDifferently wrote:
 
 Also, I've been able to determine that I don't have a RocketRAID device. 
 That's a separate RAID card, and I simply don't have one.  What I have is
 an
 onboard NVIDIA NForce Storage Controller.  I'm befuddled as to why
 FreeBSD
 thinks I have RocketRAID.
 
 
 It doesn't. FreeBSD DOES include the hptrr driver (among many others)
 in the generic kernel. Most drivers remain quiet when they find nothing
 to drive, but not hptrr. The message confirms that you DON'T have
 RocketRAID, and gives no insight into your problem.
 
 I can't really help you with that. I can tell you that FreeBSD 7.0
 works fine on my nForce 630a chipset, though I do not have it
 configured for RAID, only AHCI. Your 720a chipset is newer, perhaps
 too new to be supported by FreeBSD 7.0. You might want to give 7.1 a
 try. You might also check if your BIOS is up to date, in case the
 problem is there.
 

Thanks for the update.

I strongly believe now it is the GeForce 8200 chipset (aka MCP78).

I have found a few posts on other forums with users expressing the same hang
issue.  The cases weren't with the same mobo, but it was the same chipset.

Here is one example:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941420
See message #3.  Keywords:  FreeBSD 7.0 GeForce 8200 hangs

So, steer clear of GeForce 8200 for FreeBSD (at least for the 7.0 release).
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread ThinkDifferently


michael-439 wrote:
 
 disable dma specifically by escaping to the loader prompt and type
 hw.ata.atapi_dma=0
 

Tried it.  Didn't work.


michael-439 wrote:
 
 you can also try loading the device as a scsi device with atapicam.
 you could make this static on your iso by editing the loader.conf on the 
 iso.
 

Forgive my ignorance; as I've stated earlier, I'm pretty new to FreeBSD. 
How would I do as you suggest above?

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread ThinkDifferently


michael-439 wrote:
 
 if he would try it along with the atapicam, he would probably get 
 further. i had a similar issue and that was the solution. well, the 
 errors were the same, so it was the same issue.
 

he.  Are you not talking to me any more?

Anyway, what is this atapicam option.  How is it implemented, from the
loader prompt, editing the iso, or what?  BTW, how would one edit the iso?
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread ThinkDifferently


Steve Bertrand-2 wrote:
 
 
 ThinkDifferently wrote:
 
 ...some more interesting errors from bootup...
 hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18) 
 :confused:
 acpi0: 052008 RSDT1050 on motherboard
 acpi0: [ITHREAD]
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 acpi0: reservation of free0, 1000 (3) failed
 acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
 acpi0: reservation of 10, c7f0 (3) failed
 
 
 AFAIK, your RocketRAID should be picked up by the 'twe' driver.
 

RocketRAID ???  :confused:

So, there is quite a bit of confusion going on here.  My motherboard is the
MSI K9N2G Neo-FD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130182
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K9N2G_Neo-FDclass=mb
It is AMD64 using the NVIDIA chipset.  Its manual states that it has the
NVIDIA NForce Storage Controller, and there is absolutely no mention of
RocketRAID anywhere in the manual or on MSI's web site.

MSI mentions...
6 SATA II (1~6) ports by NVIDIA® GeForce 8200 Series
SATAII 1~6 support RAID 0/1/0+1/5 or JBOD mode by NVIDIA® GeForce 8200
Series

RocketRAID appears to be a type of PCI card RAID controller, which I don't
have.

I'm very confused why FreeBSD uses the HPT RocketRAID controller driver
v1.1 on boot.

Also, isn't the NVIDIA chipset supposed to be supported by FreeBSD?

I have a USB boot of FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE.  I put hptrr_load=YES in the
/boot/loader.conf file.  But, I haven't tried it yet (I'm at work at the
moment).  Is there anything else to try?

What about getting FreeBSD to not use RocketRAID?  Shouldn't it be loading a
driver for NForce?
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:24:17 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
 Anyway, what is this atapicam option.  How is it implemented, from the
 loader prompt, editing the iso, or what?  BTW, how would one edit the iso?

The atapicam facility can either be loaded as a module via
kld_load (or put into /boot/loader.conf as atapicam_load=YES)
or compiled into a custom kernel.

The effect is that, when atapicam is loaded, ATA(PI) devices
can be accessed as if they were SCSI devices. Your install
devlice would then be /dev/cd0 (instead of /dev/acd0), using
SCSI commands to access the ATAPI drive (this is what atapicam
translates).

Editing the ISO, as far as I know, involves the /usr/src tree
on a working FreeBSD machine, then editing the source files,
and finally make release. But I'm not sure on this, I've
never tried it.

Maybe someone with more experience on this tpoic could be
more specific and explain?


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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread michael



Polytropon wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:24:17 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
  

Anyway, what is this atapicam option.  How is it implemented, from the
loader prompt, editing the iso, or what?  BTW, how would one edit the iso?



The atapicam facility can either be loaded as a module via
kld_load (or put into /boot/loader.conf as atapicam_load=YES)
or compiled into a custom kernel.

The effect is that, when atapicam is loaded, ATA(PI) devices
can be accessed as if they were SCSI devices. Your install
devlice would then be /dev/cd0 (instead of /dev/acd0), using
SCSI commands to access the ATAPI drive (this is what atapicam
translates).

Editing the ISO, as far as I know, involves the /usr/src tree
on a working FreeBSD machine, then editing the source files,
and finally make release. But I'm not sure on this, I've
never tried it.

Maybe someone with more experience on this tpoic could be
more specific and explain?
  
also, if you're using a windows machine or whatever to burn you iso, 
download something called ultraiso or similar to edit your iso file. 
makes it easy as cake. not nearly as fattening.


  

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread ThinkDifferently


Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 
 Did you try the 'safe-mode' option from the loader menu?
 

Yes, to reiterate...

ThinkDifferently wrote:
 
 I have tried booting from Boot-only, Disc1, LiveFS.  Additionally, I've
 tried the default boot, with ACPI disabled, Safe Mode, single user
 mode, and verbose logging.
 



Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 
 Did you try disabling DMA for the CD-ROM by setting hw.ata.atapi_dma=0
 from the loader prompt, like someone else suggested a few emails back?
 

Yes.  I tried booting from the boot-only CD, choosing option 6 Escape to
loader prompt, entering set hw.ata.atapi_dma=0, followed by boot.  No
change in status, still hangs.


At this point, I haven't completely given up all hope.  I still have one
thing to try.  Since the motherboard was obviously made for Windows and only
has Windows instructions, what I will try is the following:
1. Make a driver diskette as the mobo instructions state.
2. Boot from Windows Vista Ultimate DVD.
3. On the storage screen, click on the Load Driver button.
4. Load the driver and configure the disks as per the instructions.
5. When the storage device shows up in Window's storage screen, I will
shutdown.
6. Swap in the FreeBSD boot-only CD.
7. Reboot  observe if it recognizes the storage device /or hangs.

Sound like a plan?  Anything else I might try?
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread michael



Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:36:05 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
  

ThinkDifferently wrote:


Another item of curiosity...  I just now tried booting from a CentOS
5.2 DVD.  It also hangs with a little window titled Loading SCSI
driver that says Loading ahci driver...  The funny thing is, I've
tried turning off all RAID functionality in the BIOS.  On my mobo,
this entails setting it to IDE mode, instead of RAID or AHCI.  That
doesn't appear to do anything.
  

I'm at my wit's end with this.  I tried FreeBSD in every way I know
how, and they all hang.



Did you try the 'safe-mode' option from the loader menu?

Did you try disabling DMA for the CD-ROM by setting hw.ata.atapi_dma=0
from the loader prompt, like someone else suggested a few emails back?
  
if he would try it along with the atapicam, he would probably get 
further. i had a similar issue and that was the solution. well, the 
errors were the same, so it was the same issue.

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread michael



Polytropon wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:24:17 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
  

Anyway, what is this atapicam option.  How is it implemented, from the
loader prompt, editing the iso, or what?  BTW, how would one edit the iso?



The atapicam facility can either be loaded as a module via
kld_load (or put into /boot/loader.conf as atapicam_load=YES)
or compiled into a custom kernel.

The effect is that, when atapicam is loaded, ATA(PI) devices
can be accessed as if they were SCSI devices. Your install
devlice would then be /dev/cd0 (instead of /dev/acd0), using
SCSI commands to access the ATAPI drive (this is what atapicam
translates).

Editing the ISO, as far as I know, involves the /usr/src tree
on a working FreeBSD machine, then editing the source files,
and finally make release. But I'm not sure on this, I've
never tried it.

Maybe someone with more experience on this tpoic could be
more specific and explain?
  

i have edited iso files directly, as it still contains the /boot/loader.conf
eg:
mich...@macpro:/cdrom/boot# ls loader.conf
loader.conf
mich...@macpro:/cdrom/boot# cat loader.conf
mfsroot_load=YES
mfsroot_type=mfs_root
mfsroot_name=/boot/mfsroot
atapicam_load=YES




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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:16:00 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 Did you try the 'safe-mode' option from the loader menu?

 Yes, to reiterate...

Ok, just making sure that you didn't miss that one.

Sorry for the noise :)

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread ThinkDifferently


Polytropon wrote:
 
 
 ThinkDifferently wrote:
 hptrr: no controller detected.
 
 It looks like there's a proble with the hptrr driver? Have you
 tried loading the HighPoint RocketRAID device drive by putting
 
   hptrr_load=YES
 
 into /boot/loader.conf?
 
 Further information can be obtained by:
 
   % man hptrr
 
 Check if your particular controller is supported.
 

I went back to this, using my USB boot device and edited /boot/loader.conf
to have hptrr_load=YES.  Still, no joy.

Also, I've been able to determine that I don't have a RocketRAID device. 
That's a separate RAID card, and I simply don't have one.  What I have is an
onboard NVIDIA NForce Storage Controller.  I'm befuddled as to why FreeBSD
thinks I have RocketRAID.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-17 Thread ThinkDifferently


Polytropon wrote:
 
 On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:24:17 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently
 jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
 Anyway, what is this atapicam option.  How is it implemented, from the
 loader prompt, editing the iso, or what?  BTW, how would one edit the
 iso?
 
 The atapicam facility can either be loaded as a module via
 kld_load (or put into /boot/loader.conf as atapicam_load=YES)
 or compiled into a custom kernel.
 
 The effect is that, when atapicam is loaded, ATA(PI) devices
 can be accessed as if they were SCSI devices. Your install
 devlice would then be /dev/cd0 (instead of /dev/acd0), using
 SCSI commands to access the ATAPI drive (this is what atapicam
 translates).
 

Well, one thing's for sure.  This really isn't a CD/DVD boot problem. 
Booting from USB is no different.

I will add regarding my previous post about trying to load the driver using
the Windows method seems kind of pointless.  After reading up on it
further, it seems that all it's doing is loading the driver into Windows
during the install process.  It's not actually effecting the hardware
any...but I could be wrong.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:09:44 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
 
 I have a new system put together (see below).  In booting it up for the first
 time, it hangs.
 
 I'm booting from a FreeBSD 7.0 distribution on a USB drive.
 
 Here are the messages, in part...
 
 [...]
 
 .
 hptrr: no controller detected.

It looks like there's a proble with the hptrr driver? Have you
tried loading the HighPoint RocketRAID device drive by putting

hptrr_load=YES

into /boot/loader.conf?

Further information can be obtained by:

% man hptrr

Check if your particular controller is supported.


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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently


Polytropon wrote:
 
 On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:09:44 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently  wrote:

 hptrr: no controller detected.

 

 It looks like there's a proble with the hptrr driver? Have you

 tried loading the HighPoint RocketRAID device drive by putting

 

   hptrr_load=YES

 

 into /boot/loader.conf?

 

 Further information can be obtained by:

 

   % man hptrr

 

 Check if your particular controller is supported.

 

Thanks for responding.  Forgive me for being new to FreeBSD.  My career has
been System V OS'es, like Solaris  HP-UX.  My new biz partner has
strong-armed me...er...convinced me to go FreeBSD.


I am booting from the boot only cd (burned from the amd64 iso) for the
first time.  How do I put hptrr_load=YES into /boot/loader.conf?


Also on my other FreeBSD system, 'man hptrr' resulted in 'no manual page'.


I've been troubleshooting a little with my biz partner.  He told me there
might've been something wrong with the i386 version of FreeBSD on my USB
drive.  So, I put an IDE DVD-ROM drive in the system and got the latest
AMD64 ISO on CD.


Now I'm getting...

acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00

GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_bootonly.

acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00

*** HANG ***


I also tried resetting the BIOS to Failsafe Settings...no luck.  I'm
curious, though, what the BIOS settings should be.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently

...some more interesting errors from bootup...My biz partner seemed
interested in these (don't know why)...
hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18)
acpi0: 052008 RSDT1050 on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of free0, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, c7f0 (3) failed
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread Steve Bertrand
ThinkDifferently wrote:
 ...some more interesting errors from bootup...My biz partner seemed
 interested in these (don't know why)...
 hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18)
 acpi0: 052008 RSDT1050 on motherboard
 acpi0: [ITHREAD]
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 acpi0: reservation of free0, 1000 (3) failed
 acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
 acpi0: reservation of 10, c7f0 (3) failed

AFAIK, your RocketRAID should be picked up by the 'twe' driver.

If you run a FreeBSD install disk (as opposed to boot-only), are you
provided with an install location (via sysinstall) as far as hard disks
are concerned?

Is this RAID array something that you can afford to risk losing through
troubleshooting?

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently


Steve Bertrand-2 wrote:
 
 AFAIK, your RocketRAID should be picked up by the 'twe' driver.
 
 If you run a FreeBSD install disk (as opposed to boot-only), are you
 provided with an install location (via sysinstall) as far as hard disks
 are concerned?
 
 Is this RAID array something that you can afford to risk losing through
 troubleshooting?
 

I haven't tried an install disk yet, just the boot-only.  I will try that
right away.

This system is so spankin' new, there's nothing loaded on it.  This RAID
array is just something I setup in the BIOS.  It's not even been initialized
yet...because I can't even load the OS to install anything.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently


ThinkDifferently wrote:
 
 
 Steve Bertrand-2 wrote:
 
 AFAIK, your RocketRAID should be picked up by the 'twe' driver.
 
 If you run a FreeBSD install disk (as opposed to boot-only), are you
 provided with an install location (via sysinstall) as far as hard disks
 are concerned?
 
 Is this RAID array something that you can afford to risk losing through
 troubleshooting?
 
 
 I haven't tried an install disk yet, just the boot-only.  I will try that
 right away.
 
 This system is so spankin' new, there's nothing loaded on it.  This RAID
 array is just something I setup in the BIOS.  It's not even been
 initialized yet...because I can't even load the OS to install anything.
 

Well, still no joy.  :-(

I have tried booting from Boot-only, Disc1, LiveFS.  Additionally, I've
tried the default boot, with ACPI disabled, Safe Mode, single user
mode, and verbose logging.

Every CD and every boot type gives me the exact same errors...

at the beginning:
...
acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, c7f0 (3) failed

and at the end:
...
hptrr: no controller detected.
acd0: DVDROM SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616F/F104 at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: FAILURE  READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_xxx (where xxx is the
disc I'm using).
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00
*** HANG ***

BTW, the *** HANG *** requires a hard reset.

Also, I read some hearsay in other forums that the READ_BIG error could be
caused by the write speed when the ISO is burned to CD.  So, I tried
downgrading the burn speed from 52x to 16x.  No joy.  It didn't change a
thing.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread michael



ThinkDifferently wrote:

ThinkDifferently wrote:
  

Steve Bertrand-2 wrote:


AFAIK, your RocketRAID should be picked up by the 'twe' driver.

If you run a FreeBSD install disk (as opposed to boot-only), are you
provided with an install location (via sysinstall) as far as hard disks
are concerned?

Is this RAID array something that you can afford to risk losing through
troubleshooting?

  

I haven't tried an install disk yet, just the boot-only.  I will try that
right away.

This system is so spankin' new, there's nothing loaded on it.  This RAID
array is just something I setup in the BIOS.  It's not even been
initialized yet...because I can't even load the OS to install anything.




Well, still no joy.  :-(

I have tried booting from Boot-only, Disc1, LiveFS.  Additionally, I've
tried the default boot, with ACPI disabled, Safe Mode, single user
mode, and verbose logging.

Every CD and every boot type gives me the exact same errors...

at the beginning:
...
acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, c7f0 (3) failed

and at the end:
...
hptrr: no controller detected.
acd0: DVDROM SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616F/F104 at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: FAILURE  READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_xxx (where xxx is the
disc I'm using).
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00
*** HANG ***

BTW, the *** HANG *** requires a hard reset.

Also, I read some hearsay in other forums that the READ_BIG error could be
caused by the write speed when the ISO is burned to CD.  So, I tried
downgrading the burn speed from 52x to 16x.  No joy.  It didn't change a
thing.
  

disable dma specifically by escaping to the loader prompt and type
hw.ata.atapi_dma=0
you can also try loading the device as a scsi device with atapicam.
you could make this static on your iso by editing the loader.conf on the 
iso.

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread Steve Bertrand
ThinkDifferently wrote:

 This system is so spankin' new, there's nothing loaded on it.  This RAID
 array is just something I setup in the BIOS.  It's not even been
 initialized yet...because I can't even load the OS to install anything.

 
 Well, still no joy.  :-(
 
 I have tried booting from Boot-only, Disc1, LiveFS.  Additionally, I've
 tried the default boot, with ACPI disabled, Safe Mode, single user
 mode, and verbose logging.
 
 Every CD and every boot type gives me the exact same errors...
 
 at the beginning:
 ...
 acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed
 acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
 acpi0: reservation of 10, c7f0 (3) failed
 
 and at the end:
 ...
 hptrr: no controller detected.
 acd0: DVDROM SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616F/F104 at ata0-master UDMA33
 acd0: FAILURE  READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00
 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_xxx (where xxx is the
 disc I'm using).
 acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00
 *** HANG ***
 
 BTW, the *** HANG *** requires a hard reset.
 
 Also, I read some hearsay in other forums that the READ_BIG error could be
 caused by the write speed when the ISO is burned to CD.  So, I tried
 downgrading the burn speed from 52x to 16x.  No joy.  It didn't change a
 thing.

Out of pure sheer curiosity, does the machine boot ok with the
boot-only if you pull the RAID card out of its slot?

Steve

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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently



Steve Bertrand-2 wrote:
 
 Out of pure sheer curiosity, does the machine boot ok with the
 boot-only if you pull the RAID card out of its slot?
 

There is no RAID card.  Everything is on the motherboard.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently

Another item of curiosity...
I just now tried booting from a CentOS 5.2 DVD.  It also hangs with a little
window titled Loading SCSI driver that says Loading ahci driver...  The
funny thing is, I've tried turning off all RAID functionality in the BIOS. 
On my mobo, this entails setting it to IDE mode, instead of RAID or AHCI. 
That doesn't appear to do anything.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread ThinkDifferently


ThinkDifferently wrote:
 
 Another item of curiosity...
 I just now tried booting from a CentOS 5.2 DVD.  It also hangs with a
 little window titled Loading SCSI driver that says Loading ahci
 driver...  The funny thing is, I've tried turning off all RAID
 functionality in the BIOS.  On my mobo, this entails setting it to IDE
 mode, instead of RAID or AHCI.  That doesn't appear to do anything.
 

I'm at my wit's end with this.  I tried FreeBSD in every way I know how, and
they all hang.  I tried CentOS and it hung.  I even tried Windows Vista
Ultimate.  It didn't hang, but it found no storage devices.  That led me to
a train of thought.  This board has 6 SATA ports on it, and in the BIOS it
has 3 settings for them -- IDE, RAID or AHCI.  When I put it into IDE mode,
it shows me each disk as an individual device, but all of the OS'es fail to
recognize them.  When I put it into RAID mode, it recognizes each disk as a
SATA device and offers me the RAID options (F10) on bootup.  When I put it
into AHCI mode, nothing at all is recognized.  Furthermore, I was reading in
the board's manual that to load Windows XP or Vista, a special driver
diskette is required for Windows to recognize the storage volumes.  This
leads me to believe that the only way this board knows how to handle SATA
disks is to use RAID mode, and the only way for an OS to recognize the RAID
volume is to have a driver pre-loaded before the OS.  For OS'es like FreeBSD
and CentOS this is very difficult, even if such a driver exists.

Unless somebody can correct me for being way off base, my conclusion can
only be that this board cannot support a Unix/Linux operating system, and
even with Windows it's extremely difficult.

I'm now considering returning this board and suffering the dreaded 15%
restocking fee.

Can anyone suggest a motherboard that is FreeBSD friendly?  I need it to
support 4 cores with the AM2+ socket (either that, or I need to return my
chip too) and be a full ATX board with 4 DDR2 ram slots.  On board VGA would
be nice too, but I suppose I can buy a VGA card.
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Re: FreeBSD 7 load hangs on boot

2008-12-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:36:05 -0800 (PST), ThinkDifferently 
jer...@futurecis.com wrote:
 ThinkDifferently wrote:
 Another item of curiosity...  I just now tried booting from a CentOS
 5.2 DVD.  It also hangs with a little window titled Loading SCSI
 driver that says Loading ahci driver...  The funny thing is, I've
 tried turning off all RAID functionality in the BIOS.  On my mobo,
 this entails setting it to IDE mode, instead of RAID or AHCI.  That
 doesn't appear to do anything.

 I'm at my wit's end with this.  I tried FreeBSD in every way I know
 how, and they all hang.

Did you try the 'safe-mode' option from the loader menu?

Did you try disabling DMA for the CD-ROM by setting hw.ata.atapi_dma=0
from the loader prompt, like someone else suggested a few emails back?

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