Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-26 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi Ovi,

Ovi wrote:

Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:


Hi All,

I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
I am sorry for repeating it.


However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
question.


Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
configuration and management application for web hosting services.


It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.


So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
of services.



Thanking you...


We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
admin account, reseller account and user account.

http://www.syscp.org/


I have heard about syscp and will definitely try it once. But I am not 
very familiar with coding. Apart of the DNS configurations, do we need 
to hack the code?


By the way, how many virtual domains are you currently managing with syscp?


Thanking you...




best regards,
ovi







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(TAG/TDG Group)
Jwl Systems Department

Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

Jawalakhel, Nepal

http://www.wlink.com.np

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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-26 Thread Grant Peel
We, and many hundreds of other hosts use Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin.

It is free,
It is robust,
There are tons of third party mods to use, 
Learning how to create your own mods is easy,
It is secure.

www.webmin.com

-Grant
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tek Bahadur Limbu 
  To: Ovi 
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


  Hi Ovi,

  Ovi wrote:
   Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
   
   Hi All,
  
   I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
   I am sorry for repeating it.
  
   However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
   question.
  
   Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
   configuration and management application for web hosting services.
  
   It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
  
   I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
   softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.
  
   So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/
  
   It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.
  
   So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
   of services.
  
  
   Thanking you...
  
  
   We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
   suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
   Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
   know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
   to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
   configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
   modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
   need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
   this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
   admin account, reseller account and user account.
   http://www.syscp.org/

  I have heard about syscp and will definitely try it once. But I am not 
  very familiar with coding. Apart of the DNS configurations, do we need 
  to hack the code?

  By the way, how many virtual domains are you currently managing with syscp?


  Thanking you...


   
   best regards,
   ovi
   
   
   
   


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  With best regards and good wishes,

  Yours sincerely,

  Tek Bahadur Limbu

  System Administrator

  (TAG/TDG Group)
  Jwl Systems Department

  Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

  Jawalakhel, Nepal

  http://www.wlink.com.np

  http://teklimbu.wordpress.com
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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-26 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi Grant,

Grant Peel wrote:

We, and many hundreds of other hosts use Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin.

It is free,
It is robust,
There are tons of third party mods to use, 
Learning how to create your own mods is easy,

It is secure.

www.webmin.com


Thanks for your suggestions.

I did not know that webmin could be used for a web hosting platform. I 
mean that I have only heard negative comments about it. And I thought 
that it was over bloated and was full of unwanted services thus making 
it very insecure.


Now that you have mentioned it and corrected my thinking, I will 
definitely look into it and consider it.


Thanking you...





-Grant
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tek Bahadur Limbu 
  To: Ovi 
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:09 AM

  Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


  Hi Ovi,

  Ovi wrote:
   Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
   
   Hi All,

  
   I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
   I am sorry for repeating it.

  
   However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
   question.

  
   Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
   configuration and management application for web hosting services.

  
   It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
  
   I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
   softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.

  
   So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/
  
   It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.
  
   So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
   of services.

  
  
   Thanking you...
  
  
   We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
   suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
   Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
   know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
   to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
   configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
   modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
   need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
   this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
   admin account, reseller account and user account.

   http://www.syscp.org/

  I have heard about syscp and will definitely try it once. But I am not 
  very familiar with coding. Apart of the DNS configurations, do we need 
  to hack the code?


  By the way, how many virtual domains are you currently managing with syscp?


  Thanking you...


   
   best regards,

   ovi
   
   
   
   



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  Yours sincerely,

  Tek Bahadur Limbu

  System Administrator

  (TAG/TDG Group)
  Jwl Systems Department

  Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

  Jawalakhel, Nepal

  http://www.wlink.com.np

  http://teklimbu.wordpress.com
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Yours sincerely,

Tek Bahadur Limbu

System Administrator

(TAG/TDG Group)
Jwl Systems Department

Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

Jawalakhel, Nepal

http://www.wlink.com.np

http://teklimbu.wordpress.com
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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-25 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi Andrey and Ted,


Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:46 AM
To: Tek Bahadur Limbu
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:


I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
I am sorry for repeating it.
However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
question.
Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
configuration and management application for web hosting services.
It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.
So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

  For commercial hostings needs commercial panels.


Not really true.  It depends on what your charging.  If your charging
the equivalent of $4.99 a month USD for a light duty site then your
customers
are cheapskates who are going to be satisfied with whatever you give
then, commercial or not.

The commercial control panels are appropriate for hosts that are
charging some real money for the service.


I guess you are correct. The price will be equivalent to less than $9.99 
a month. I think VHCS or ISPConfig will serve me good.


From their sites, both are only available for Linux based systems. 
Anyway, I will setup VHCS in a Debian box.


Once again, thanks alot for your input and suggestions.

Thanking you...






Ted

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With best regards and good wishes,

Yours sincerely,

Tek Bahadur Limbu

System Administrator

(TAG/TDG Group)
Jwl Systems Department

Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

Jawalakhel, Nepal

http://www.wlink.com.np

http://teklimbu.wordpress.com
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RE: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Tek Bahadur Limbu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:52 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Andrey Slusar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform
 
 
 Hi Andrey and Ted,
 
 
 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrey Slusar
  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:46 AM
  To: Tek Bahadur Limbu
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform
 
 
  Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
 
  I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
  I am sorry for repeating it.
  However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
  question.
  Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
  configuration and management application for web hosting services.
  It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
  I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
  softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.
  So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/
For commercial hostings needs commercial panels.
  
  Not really true.  It depends on what your charging.  If your charging
  the equivalent of $4.99 a month USD for a light duty site then your
  customers
  are cheapskates who are going to be satisfied with whatever you give
  then, commercial or not.
  
  The commercial control panels are appropriate for hosts that are
  charging some real money for the service.
 
 I guess you are correct. The price will be equivalent to less than $9.99 
 a month. I think VHCS or ISPConfig will serve me good.
 
  From their sites, both are only available for Linux based systems. 
 Anyway, I will setup VHCS in a Debian box.
 

We actually use webmin ourselves.  Although, we do not give the
users any access to control panels whatsoever.  The major thing
they use them for is setting up mysql databases, and we make
them ask us to do that for them.  Since most users don't need to
do this, it really isn't much of a support burden.  The biggest
support burden with users is getting them to figure out how to
use their FTP or whatever file transfer software, or publish-shit
button on frontpage (thank the maker that MS finally officially
struck that product, so we can get away with punting on support
of ancient free copies of this.  People who can't figure out frontpage
don't have any business making websites)

Ted
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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-25 Thread Ovi

Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:


Hi All,

I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
I am sorry for repeating it.


However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
question.


Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
configuration and management application for web hosting services.


It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.


So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
of services.



Thanking you...


We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
admin account, reseller account and user account.

http://www.syscp.org/

best regards,
ovi

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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-24 Thread Andrey Slusar
Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:

 I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
 I am sorry for repeating it.

 However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
 question.

 Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
 configuration and management application for web hosting services.

 It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

 I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
 softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.

 So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

  For commercial hostings needs commercial panels. Open source
alternatives is very buggy and less functionality. DirectAdmin, ISP
Manager commercial panels is not needs many costs for life time
licenses or functionality is very good.

 It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

 So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type
 of services.

 Free panels: vhcs, ispconfig.
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RE: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-24 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:46 AM
 To: Tek Bahadur Limbu
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:

  I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
  I am sorry for repeating it.

  However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
  question.

  Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
  configuration and management application for web hosting services.

  It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

  I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
  softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.

  So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

   For commercial hostings needs commercial panels.

Not really true.  It depends on what your charging.  If your charging
the equivalent of $4.99 a month USD for a light duty site then your
customers
are cheapskates who are going to be satisfied with whatever you give
then, commercial or not.

The commercial control panels are appropriate for hosts that are
charging some real money for the service.

Ted

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