Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Rich Fox wrote: I use a MacOS X workstation to connect to my FreeBSD box where I use Pine to compose these emails. Apparently the Terminal program in MacOS X intercepts ctrl+o combinations which are used to postpone messages in Pine. Thus, when I use the key combination ctrl+o it never reaches the remote machine (or at least it doesn't appear to, but it doesn't appear to do anything at all on either machine.) Works fine here. I just postponed this reply in mid-sentence. FreeBSD 4.7, standard pine 4.53 from ports. I've been doing this since OS X 10.0.1 (currently 10.2.3) with the various pine builds in use since then. You have some other problem. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
Hi, Thanks for the response. Perhaps it is some other problem, but it is only manifest in Terminal. I have no problem with this using BetterTelnet in emulation. Any advice on how to troubleshoot it? Rich. | Rich Fox | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 86 Nobska Road | Woods Hole, MA 02543 | MA 508 548 4358 | VA 703 201 6050 On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Kevin Stevens wrote: On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Rich Fox wrote: I use a MacOS X workstation to connect to my FreeBSD box where I use Pine to compose these emails. Apparently the Terminal program in MacOS X intercepts ctrl+o combinations which are used to postpone messages in Pine. Thus, when I use the key combination ctrl+o it never reaches the remote machine (or at least it doesn't appear to, but it doesn't appear to do anything at all on either machine.) Works fine here. I just postponed this reply in mid-sentence. FreeBSD 4.7, standard pine 4.53 from ports. I've been doing this since OS X 10.0.1 (currently 10.2.3) with the various pine builds in use since then. You have some other problem. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
Rich Fox wrote: [ ... ] Apparently the Terminal program in MacOS X intercepts ctrl+o combinations which are used to postpone messages in Pine. Thus, when I use the key combination ctrl+o it never reaches the remote machine (or at least it doesn't appear to, but it doesn't appear to do anything at all on either machine.) Can anyone advise me on what I can use to change this? Do a stty -all, and see what the quote character is set to. Normally, it's cntl-v, but maybe it's cntl-o. Or trying doing a cntl-v, cntl-o combination and see whether that gets the control character through. -Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hi I use a MacOS X workstation to connect to my FreeBSD box where I use Pine to compose these emails. Apparently the Terminal program in MacOS X intercepts ctrl+o combinations which are used to postpone messages in Pine. Thus, when I use the key combination ctrl+o it never reaches the remote machine (or at least it doesn't appear to, but it doesn't appear to do anything at all on either machine.) Can anyone advise me on what I can use to change this? Check the stty -all as already suggested here. My discard character is set to to Control-O, and I haven't changed it so I believe that is the default setting. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
Hi, Thanks, I think that found the issue, however... an stty -a returns... [snip] cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof [snip] man termios says: DISCARD Special character on input and is recognized if the IEXTEN flag is set. Receipt of this character toggles the flushing of termi- nal output. Unfortunately, I can't quite make out where this is set when reading the various man pages regarding terminals. In gettytab, I see: # cflags: CLOCAL | HUPCL | CREAD | CS8 # oflags: OPOST | ONLCR | OXTABS # iflags: IXOFF | IXON | ICRNL | IGNPAR # lflags: IEXTEN | ICANON | ISIG | ECHOCTL | ECHO | ECHOK | ECHOE | ECHOKE # # The `0' flags don't have input enabled. The `1' flags don't echo. # (Echoing is done inside getty itself.) # IEXTEN being the critter than enables or disables this functionality, and sys/termios.h has this: #define IEXTEN 0x0400 /* enable DISCARD and LNEXT */ However, under the local.9600 setting in gettytab, I don't see a setting that matches IEXTEN... local.9600|CLOCAL tty @ 9600 Bd:\ :c0#0xc300:c1#0xcb00:c2#0xcb00:\ :o0#0x0007:o1#0x0002:o2#0x0007:\ :i0#0x0704:i1#0x:i2#0x0704:\ :l0#0x05cf:l1#0x:l2#0x05cf:\ :sp#9600: A grep'ing of the gettytab does not return any relevant data. Am I even barking in the right forest? Thanks, Rich. | Rich Fox | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 86 Nobska Road | Woods Hole, MA 02543 | MA 508 548 4358 | VA 703 201 6050 On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Chuck Swiger wrote: Rich Fox wrote: [ ... ] Apparently the Terminal program in MacOS X intercepts ctrl+o combinations which are used to postpone messages in Pine. Thus, when I use the key combination ctrl+o it never reaches the remote machine (or at least it doesn't appear to, but it doesn't appear to do anything at all on either machine.) Can anyone advise me on what I can use to change this? Do a stty -all, and see what the quote character is set to. Normally, it's cntl-v, but maybe it's cntl-o. Or trying doing a cntl-v, cntl-o combination and see whether that gets the control character through. -Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
Rich Fox wrote: Thanks, I think that found the issue, however... an stty -a returns... [snip] cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof [snip] [ ... ] Am I even barking in the right forest? Yes. If you've also got lnext set like so: lnext min quitreprint start status stopsusptime ^V 1 ^\ ^R ^Q ^T ^S ^Z 0 ...then typing ^V ^O should send a literal cntl-O to pine. Cntl-v is used to quote shell line-editing characters. -Chuck PS: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=47815 :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
On Sunday, Feb 2, 2003, at 12:07 US/Pacific, Rich Fox wrote: Hi, Thanks, I think that found the issue, however... an stty -a returns... [snip] cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof [snip] Umm, that's what mine reports, as well, both when I'm local to the Mac and when I'm ssh'ed to the FreeBSD machine from which I run pine. Still able to control-o (note case) to suspend in pine. Are you possibly trying to use control-O (note case) instead? KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Slightly OT, OSX, terminals key combinations
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Rich Fox wrote: Apparently the Terminal program in MacOS X intercepts ctrl+o combinations which are used to postpone messages in Pine. Thus, when I use the key I use: ssh -e none freebsd-machien.domain.com dw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
