Re: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD

2003-01-01 Thread Steve Hodgson
Sorry to be still hammering on about this problem - I am starting to
feel a bit dense.

I've tried a few times now to get FreeBSD running a GUI with my Voodoo
3500 AGP card.  Thanks to some helpful advice from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I reckon that I should be able to get things
running using the tdfx X-server.  Other advice is that if my card ain't
listed explicitly, it won't work.

Longer term, a carefully-chosen card will be a great solution - at this
point though I just want to try things out and the number of cards that
will run BeOS, Linux, FreeBSD and/or Windows (this last reluctantly)
seems a little limited.  As an aside one of the problems here is that
BeOS now seems happier with *old* graphics cards (one of the problems
that got me looking for the ONE OS in the first place).

When I try to run the tdfx driver I am still unable to complete X
Windows installation successfully so I suspect that it really may be a
case of having to specify a specific card for a trouble free GUI.

Just as an experiment I stuck on the latest Mandrake 9.0; in half an
hour and I was up and running Gnome 2.0 with no problems whatsoever
using a generic Voodoo driver.  Am I being stupid in thinking that this
is the same XFree86?

I really don't want to go down a Linux route, I've been burned too many
times there in the past.  Any expertise greatly welcome at this point.

cheers,

Steve Hodgson


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Re: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD

2003-01-01 Thread John Bleichert
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Steve Hodgson wrote:

 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 21:58:43 GMT
 From: Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD
 
 Sorry to be still hammering on about this problem - I am starting to
 feel a bit dense.
 
 I've tried a few times now to get FreeBSD running a GUI with my Voodoo
 3500 AGP card.  Thanks to some helpful advice from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I reckon that I should be able to get things
 running using the tdfx X-server.  Other advice is that if my card ain't
 listed explicitly, it won't work.
 
 Longer term, a carefully-chosen card will be a great solution - at this
 point though I just want to try things out and the number of cards that
 will run BeOS, Linux, FreeBSD and/or Windows (this last reluctantly)
 seems a little limited.  As an aside one of the problems here is that
 BeOS now seems happier with *old* graphics cards (one of the problems
 that got me looking for the ONE OS in the first place).
 
 When I try to run the tdfx driver I am still unable to complete X
 Windows installation successfully so I suspect that it really may be a
 case of having to specify a specific card for a trouble free GUI.
 
 Just as an experiment I stuck on the latest Mandrake 9.0; in half an
 hour and I was up and running Gnome 2.0 with no problems whatsoever
 using a generic Voodoo driver.  Am I being stupid in thinking that this
 is the same XFree86?
 
 I really don't want to go down a Linux route, I've been burned too many
 times there in the past.  Any expertise greatly welcome at this point.
 
 cheers,
 
 Steve Hodgson
 

As fars as a card that works widely, nVidia provides binary drivers with 
3d accelleration for Win32, Linux and BSD for their current cards. My 
Geforce2 AGP works great in Linux and BSD.

Just a thought. That Voodoo3 should work fine, though no acdeleration tihs 
side of Mesa (software).

JB

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Re[2]: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD

2003-01-01 Thread John Bleichert
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Alex wrote:
 To: John Bleichert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re[2]: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD
 
 
 Dear/Beste John,
 
 Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 11:27:08 PM, you wrote:
 
  Subsection Display
  Depth   8
  Modes   640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
  ViewPort0 0
  EndSubsection
  Subsection Display
  Depth   16
  Modes   640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
  ViewPort0 0
  EndSubsection
  Subsection Display
  Depth   24
  Modes   1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
  ViewPort0 0
 
 Why did you switch the last modes?
 
 -- 
 Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet,
 Alex
 

Whoops! Forgot about that. I have that box propped up on an amplifier 
in my living room and I've been sitting wy back from it on the 
sofa with the keyboard and cordless mouse. 1152x768 is easier to read 
at that distance, so I modified the config file.

Nice catch.

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Re[2]: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD

2003-01-01 Thread Alex

Dear/Beste John,

Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 11:27:08 PM, you wrote:

 Subsection Display
 Depth   8
 Modes   640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
 ViewPort0 0
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth   16
 Modes   640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
 ViewPort0 0
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth   24
 Modes   1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
 ViewPort0 0

Why did you switch the last modes?

-- 
Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet,
Alex


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Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD

2002-12-24 Thread Steve Hodgson
I had been having some problem trying to get FreeBSD installed onto a
free partition because I was unsure whether my Voodoo 3500 AGP card was
supported by X Windows.

Thanks to some help received I now know that I need to use the tdfx
driver.  However when I select this as part of the graphical or shell-
based W Windows setup during install it still fails.  I wonder if
anyone can advise whether I am missing some quirk of using the card.

With regard to the graphical setup it may be useful to note that all
the other devices are shown correctly while the graphics card is only
shown as an outline box.  Is it time to try to pick up a cheat ATi
card?

Cheers,

Steve Hodgson


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Re: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD

2002-12-24 Thread Joe Gwozdecki

- Original Message -
From: Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 3:44 AM
Subject: Voodoo 3500 AGP under FreeBSD


I had been having some problem trying to get FreeBSD installed onto a
free partition because I was unsure whether my Voodoo 3500 AGP card was
supported by X Windows.

Thanks to some help received I now know that I need to use the tdfx
driver.  However when I select this as part of the graphical or shell-
based W Windows setup during install it still fails.  I wonder if
anyone can advise whether I am missing some quirk of using the card.

With regard to the graphical setup it may be useful to note that all
the other devices are shown correctly while the graphics card is only
shown as an outline box.  Is it time to try to pick up a cheat ATi
card?

Cheers,

Steve Hodgson


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I just looked at the XFree video driver list and they do not have Voodoo cards on it.
Maybe it goes by some other name.  But Voodoo is just not there.  Which means there is 
no
driver for it in X windows.

When I first got into the X window system, I did not understand how important it was to
have an exact card from the list.  I tried and tried with what I had, and got no where.

Finally, I printed off their list, went to the computer store with it, and got 
something
exactly, and the key word is exactly, like on the list.  Came back, put it in, set the
variables in X, and voila!

Again, it is not FreeBSD.  It is X windows which is card specific.

Joe Gwozdecki
Houston, Texas


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