laptop question...

2005-09-18 Thread Jeff D. Hamann
I'm about to purchase a sager np3880 laptop:

http://www.discountlaptops.com/index.php?section=specs&model_id=1176&category_id=&category_theme=c1

and want to know if there might be any problems with the hardware
especially the usb and video. Has anyone been able to get wuxga (1900x1200
screen sizes) while running freebsd? I'm in the middle of purchasing new
machines and I'm struggling with the concept of running wine so I can run
MS Windows apps (ms office access+vba) or should I not bother with freebsd
(5.4/6.0) and stick with xp?

The video data is

PCI Express x16 3D Accelerator
128MB DDR2 PCI-e nVIDIA GeForce Go 6600 Video Memory

and what is the experience with power management. I've seen lots of
complaints about laptops going to sleep and never waking up...

Jeff.



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Re: HP Pavillion laptop work with any version of FreeBSD?

2005-09-13 Thread Michael L. Hostbaek
WOB (wayofbsd) writes:
> 
> I posted the error messages to the mobile list, and didn't get a 
> response - I guess no one has this type of laptop. 
> 
> Has anyone had any luck with any version of FreeBSD on any version of HP 
> Pavillion laptop?

Just yesterday, I installed FreeBSD 5.3-REL on the laptop of my
colleague. He owns a HP Pavillion DV1000 series.

It worked out of the box.

Though, we needed to apply a small patch to the i8xx driver, to enable
1280x768 resolution in X.

/mich

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HP Pavillion laptop work with any version of FreeBSD?

2005-09-12 Thread WOB


I have never been able to get through an install of either 5.4 or 6.0 on 
my HP Pavillion zv5445us laptop.  Trying to install 5.4 would poweroff 
the latop, and 6.0 hangs during the install.  I have not tried 4.10, and 
was hoping I wouldn't have to.  I had tried earlier version of 5.x when 
they were out (5.3 I think).


I posted the error messages to the mobile list, and didn't get a 
response - I guess no one has this type of laptop. 

Has anyone had any luck with any version of FreeBSD on any version of HP 
Pavillion laptop?



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Re: Laptop questions

2005-09-12 Thread Derrill Guilbert

Jerry McAllister wrote:


in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote
Jerry McAllister thusly...
   


I have had good success using Partition Magic from PowerQuest to
manipulate disk slices including NTFS types.
 


Same here.


   


Unless you are working on a separate disk from the one you are
booting the machine you cannot run from the installed copy.   To
work on the main disk (most likely your case with a laptop), you
must make the boot floppies it tells about in the Partition Magic
documentation and then boot from them to do the disk slice
manipulation.
 


Well, i was able to manipulate the slices while Partition Magic 6.x
was running on MS Windows (XP, and probably Me, don't remember about
98), w/o use of floppies or CDs.
   



I could do some things, but not what I needed.   Using
the floppies made it all work and it was quite straightforward.
I was changing slice sizes (shrinking) and slice types.   So, ???

jerry

 


 - Parv
   

An all windows issue but, word of warning with Partition Magic. I was 
attempting to merge two slices into one larger with PM versions 7 and 
version 8, two different PCs (same version MSI MB and Maxtor hdd though, 
so I'm guessing the issue is one of them) and both failed. All NTFS, 
WinXP. Be sure to do your backups and whatnot - in both cases the larger 
second slice was lost completely and backups were the only thing that 
saved me. Ended up wipe and reload on both.


Funny thing is, my boss has reported great success with both versions on 
various MSI mbs. So, I dunno.


Derrill

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Re: Laptop questions

2005-09-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote
> Jerry McAllister thusly...
> >
> > I have had good success using Partition Magic from PowerQuest to
> > manipulate disk slices including NTFS types.
> 
> Same here.
> 
> 
> > Unless you are working on a separate disk from the one you are
> > booting the machine you cannot run from the installed copy.   To
> > work on the main disk (most likely your case with a laptop), you
> > must make the boot floppies it tells about in the Partition Magic
> > documentation and then boot from them to do the disk slice
> > manipulation.
> 
> Well, i was able to manipulate the slices while Partition Magic 6.x
> was running on MS Windows (XP, and probably Me, don't remember about
> 98), w/o use of floppies or CDs.

I could do some things, but not what I needed.   Using
the floppies made it all work and it was quite straightforward.
I was changing slice sizes (shrinking) and slice types.   So, ???

jerry

> 
>   - Parv
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Re: Laptop questions

2005-09-12 Thread Parv
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote
Jerry McAllister thusly...
>
> I have had good success using Partition Magic from PowerQuest to
> manipulate disk slices including NTFS types.

Same here.


> Unless you are working on a separate disk from the one you are
> booting the machine you cannot run from the installed copy.   To
> work on the main disk (most likely your case with a laptop), you
> must make the boot floppies it tells about in the Partition Magic
> documentation and then boot from them to do the disk slice
> manipulation.

Well, i was able to manipulate the slices while Partition Magic 6.x
was running on MS Windows (XP, and probably Me, don't remember about
98), w/o use of floppies or CDs.


  - Parv

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Re: Laptop questions

2005-09-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hey all.
> 
> I'm on the verge of getting myself a laptop.  As this is my first
> laptop, and I'm rewarding myself for a recent accomplishment, I
> figured I'd go all out and get the top of the line Dell.  I know, IBM
> has some great notebooks, as does Gateway and particularly Apple.  I'd
> like to get an Apple, but that would be out of line with the reason
> I'm rewarding myself.
> 
> Bottom line, I'll need to keep Windows on the system - relevant to the
> event for which I'm rewarding myself.  Still, I'd really, REALLY like
> to get FreeBSD (or some other *BSD) and/or *maybe* a Linux distro on
> there as well.  The hard drive is going to be a 100G, so I could
> probably squeeze at least 2 OSes on without much trouble.

Should be no problem.  Just read the stuff on dual booting a machine.

Make sure you leave the MS install in the original slice. (That is 
usually first, unless Dell also puts a diagnostic slice on it, then MS 
would be second slice)   It doesn't pay to try to change the position
where MS lives. 

Make sure all the MS install stuff is done first and then install the
FreeBSd stuff because MS doesn't respect anything else and will overwrite
MBRs and boot sectors and will not boot another system.   FreeBSD will 
both respect other systems and the FreeBSD MBRs will boot any other
system.   So, install FreeBSD last.

You will need to shrink the MS slice (which MS calls a partition) to 
make room for FreeBSD.IF the MS slice only has FAT type slices,
they are are some free utilities that can be used to shrink the MS
slice and make room for a FreeBSD slice.   But, your laptop will probably
have an NTFS type file system and I don't know of any current free utility
that can shrink NTFS type file systems.   There are a couple fairly
inexpensive utilities on the market that can do it well.

I have had good success using Partition Magic from PowerQuest to manipulate
disk slices including NTFS types.   One thing to keep in mind.   Unless
you are working on a separate disk from the one you are booting the 
machine you cannot run from the installed copy.   To work on the main
disk (most likely your case with a laptop), you must make the boot
floppies it tells about in the Partition Magic documentation and then
boot from them to do the disk slice manipulation.If you don't have
a floppy on the laptop, you need to hook one up, maybe via USB if can
be booted.   More recent versions of PM might be able to do this from
a bootable CD, but I don't know if they got around to it yet.

> So the question:  Has anyone successfully installed and run FreeBSD
> (or any other *BSD or Linux distro) on a Dell Inspirion XPS Gen 2? I'm
> planning to max out the RAM, include wireless networking, and sticking
> with the 2GHz CPU.  Other than that, it's pretty standard fare.  Any
> success stories would be most welcome.  If anyone has found that
> FreeBSD is not suited for this system (yet), or a specific Linux
> distro is ideally suited for this system, that would be a most welcome
> piece of info as well.

I haven't used that particular machine, but it is way bigger than
ones I have and there should be no problem with the capacity.  There
might be some complications with specific devices they include.  You
can check supported devices on the FreeBSD web site.   Click on the
'hardware' link under the FreeBSD version you plan to use and then
on the i386 in the list of CPU types on the next page.

jerry

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Laptop questions

2005-09-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Hey all.

I'm on the verge of getting myself a laptop.  As this is my first
laptop, and I'm rewarding myself for a recent accomplishment, I
figured I'd go all out and get the top of the line Dell.  I know, IBM
has some great notebooks, as does Gateway and particularly Apple.  I'd
like to get an Apple, but that would be out of line with the reason
I'm rewarding myself.

Bottom line, I'll need to keep Windows on the system - relevant to the
event for which I'm rewarding myself.  Still, I'd really, REALLY like
to get FreeBSD (or some other *BSD) and/or *maybe* a Linux distro on
there as well.  The hard drive is going to be a 100G, so I could
probably squeeze at least 2 OSes on without much trouble.

So the question:  Has anyone successfully installed and run FreeBSD
(or any other *BSD or Linux distro) on a Dell Inspirion XPS Gen 2? I'm
planning to max out the RAM, include wireless networking, and sticking
with the 2GHz CPU.  Other than that, it's pretty standard fare.  Any
success stories would be most welcome.  If anyone has found that
FreeBSD is not suited for this system (yet), or a specific Linux
distro is ideally suited for this system, that would be a most welcome
piece of info as well.

Lou
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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Ben Paley
On Monday 05 September 2005 17:03, Roland Smith wrote:

> > Thanks a lot for your advice - I shall follow it, even if it is slightly
> > dispiriting. Perhaps I should learn C properly and start writing some
> > drivers... :-)
>
> Not that I want to discourage you, but that seems like a tall
> order. Apart from knowing C, you'd have to get familiar with the FreeBSD
> kernel and writing device drivers.

I'm not entirely serious - that is, it's certainly the Right Thing To Do, but 
I know my limitations as a programmer! Perhaps I'll start with something 
simpler.

> If you are serious about writing a driver, I would recommend reading
> "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" by
> McKusick and Neville-Neil.

Good advice, once again! Thanks very much.

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 03:26:22PM +0100, Ben Paley wrote:
> > > Is that it?
> >
> > I think so. According to the following page,
> > http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/insp6000/p-proc.html#sd it is a Ricoh
> > R5c576A chip. Looking at the Ricoh page for this chip,
> > http://www.ricoh.com/LSI/product_pcif/pcc/5c576a/ there seems to be no
> > programming info available.
> >
> > AFAICT, there is no Linux driver either, but someone seems to be working
> > on it: http://list.drzeus.cx/pipermail/wbsd-devel/2005-March/000261.html
> > You could try contacting this person to see how far his efforts have
> > come, and who the FreeBSD kernel developer is who is working on this.
> 
> Thanks a lot for your advice - I shall follow it, even if it is slightly 
> dispiriting. Perhaps I should learn C properly and start writing some 
> drivers... :-)

Not that I want to discourage you, but that seems like a tall
order. Apart from knowing C, you'd have to get familiar with the FreeBSD
kernel and writing device drivers.

I guess a driver for an SD card reader should be similar to the USB
umass(4) driver. It should also handle disks by using the CAM transport
layer and da(4) devices.

If you are serious about writing a driver, I would recommend reading
"The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" by
McKusick and Neville-Neil.

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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Ben Paley
...PS - 
Thanks not just for your advice, but for putting in the effort to find this 
stuff out - I wouldn't have known where to start!

Thanks,
Ben
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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Ben Paley
On Monday 05 September 2005 11:50, Roland Smith wrote:

> > $ pciconf -lv
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:2: class=0x080501 card=0x01881028 chip=0x08221180 
> > rev=0x17
> > hdr=0x00
> > vendor   = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
> > device   = 'SD Bus Host Adapter'
> > class= base peripheral
> >
> > Is that it?
>
> I think so. According to the following page,
> http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/insp6000/p-proc.html#sd it is a Ricoh
> R5c576A chip. Looking at the Ricoh page for this chip,
> http://www.ricoh.com/LSI/product_pcif/pcc/5c576a/ there seems to be no
> programming info available.
>
> AFAICT, there is no Linux driver either, but someone seems to be working
> on it: http://list.drzeus.cx/pipermail/wbsd-devel/2005-March/000261.html
> You could try contacting this person to see how far his efforts have
> come, and who the FreeBSD kernel developer is who is working on this.

Thanks a lot for your advice - I shall follow it, even if it is slightly 
dispiriting. Perhaps I should learn C properly and start writing some 
drivers... :-)

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:24:33AM +0100, Ben Paley wrote:
> On Monday 05 September 2005 11:04, Roland Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:36:40AM +0100, Ben Paley wrote:
> > > Anyone got any idea how I can access the built-in sd card reader on my
> > > dell inspiron 6000 laptop?
> >
> > Is there anything in /var/log/messages?
> 
> Not so far as I can see, nor in dmesg
> 
> > If not, try 'pciconf -lv', 
> 
> $ pciconf -lv
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:2: class=0x080501 card=0x01881028 chip=0x08221180 
> rev=0x17 
> hdr=0x00
> vendor   = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
> device   = 'SD Bus Host Adapter'
> class= base peripheral
> 
> Is that it?

I think so. According to the following page,
http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/insp6000/p-proc.html#sd it is a Ricoh
R5c576A chip. Looking at the Ricoh page for this chip,
http://www.ricoh.com/LSI/product_pcif/pcc/5c576a/ there seems to be no
programming info available.

AFAICT, there is no Linux driver either, but someone seems to be working
on it: http://list.drzeus.cx/pipermail/wbsd-devel/2005-March/000261.html
You could try contacting this person to see how far his efforts have
come, and who the FreeBSD kernel developer is who is working on this.

Roland

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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Ben Paley
On Monday 05 September 2005 11:04, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:36:40AM +0100, Ben Paley wrote:
> > Anyone got any idea how I can access the built-in sd card reader on my
> > dell inspiron 6000 laptop?
>
> Is there anything in /var/log/messages?

Not so far as I can see, nor in dmesg

> If not, try 'pciconf -lv', 

$ pciconf -lv

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:2: class=0x080501 card=0x01881028 chip=0x08221180 rev=0x17 
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
device   = 'SD Bus Host Adapter'
class= base peripheral

Is that it?

> 'usbdevs

just four empty sockets there

> and 'camcontrol devlist -v' 

Nothing there apart from the optical drive.

> to see if it is on the PCI, USB or  
> SCSI bus respectively.

So, PCI then? How do I go about my kernel config to get it detected?

> If you can't get it to work, the SanDisk SDDR-93 sd card reader is
> supposed to work with Linux, so using it with FreeBSD should be possible.

I can get to the camera with its cable, though it's a bit slow - I just wanted 
the convenience of using the built-in reader, since it's there!

Thanks a lot for your advice
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Re: Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:36:40AM +0100, Ben Paley wrote:

> Anyone got any idea how I can access the built-in sd card reader on my
> dell inspiron 6000 laptop? 

Is there anything in /var/log/messages? If not, try 'pciconf -lv',
'usbdevs' and 'camcontrol devlist -v' to see if it is on the PCI, USB or
SCSI bus respectively.

If you can't get it to work, the SanDisk SDDR-93 sd card reader is
supposed to work with Linux, so using it with FreeBSD should be possible.

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Internal SD card reader, Dell laptop

2005-09-05 Thread Ben Paley
Hello,

Anyone got any idea how I can access the built-in sd card reader on my dell 
inspiron 6000 laptop? There's no /dev/sda at the moment. I can't seem to find 
out how the card connects internally - neither usb nor scsi look very 
likely...

Any more ideas?

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: FreeBSD on old laptop, installer panic

2005-08-25 Thread Jason Morgan
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 06:55:57PM -0400, Zac Berkowitz wrote:
> I'm giving FreeBSD a go on my laptop, but I'm running into problems 
> straight off the 5.4-STABLE installer.  At first it would hang without an 
> error.  After I disabled power management in the bios  I got a bit further 
> - now it crashes with a panic:
> -
> pcib0:  pcibus 0 on motherboard
> pir0:  on motherboard
> pci0:  on pcib0
> 
> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
> fault virtual address = 0xeb871
> fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
> instruction pointer   = 0x8 :0xc00eb757
> stack pointer  = 0x10 :0xc1020a0
> frame pointer  = 0x10 :0xc1020a0
> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
>= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, IOPL = 0
> processor eflags  = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
> current process   = 0
> trap number=12
> 
> panic: page fault
> 
> 
> Some googling with the fault virtual address turned up a few pages, but 
> none in english and seemingly none coming to a solution.  lspci -v in linux 
> gives me
> 
> -
> :00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge 
> (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
>Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
>Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
>I/O behind bridge: 8000-9fff
>Memory behind bridge: d800-dfff
>Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d000-d7ff
> -
> 
> Any ideas?  Usually my *NIX give me panics /after/ I get through installing 
> them : p
> 

I've had the same problem on an old laptop. I was told to try older
releases (tried 4.11 and 5.4). I haven't gotten around to it, but that's
somewhere to start.

Cheers,
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FreeBSD on old laptop, installer panic

2005-08-24 Thread Zac Berkowitz
I'm giving FreeBSD a go on my laptop, but I'm running into problems straight 
off the 5.4-STABLE installer.  At first it would hang without an error.  
After I disabled power management in the bios  I got a bit further - now it 
crashes with a panic:

-
pcib0:  pcibus 0 on motherboard
pir0:  on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address = 0xeb871
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer   = 0x8 :0xc00eb757
stack pointer  = 0x10 :0xc1020a0
frame pointer  = 0x10 :0xc1020a0
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
   = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, IOPL = 0
processor eflags  = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process   = 0
trap number=12

panic: page fault


Some googling with the fault virtual address turned up a few pages, but none 
in english and seemingly none coming to a solution.  lspci -v in linux gives 
me


-
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge 
(rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
   I/O behind bridge: 8000-9fff
   Memory behind bridge: d800-dfff
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d000-d7ff
-

Any ideas?  Usually my *NIX give me panics /after/ I get through installing 
them : p


-Zac


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Configuring XFree86 on a Asus L7200 laptop

2005-08-21 Thread shafini M.H.
Hi Simon,
Got ur e-mail fr the net. For your info, someone wanna pass me the same laptop 
model you've been using. Can you brief me the advantage & dis :)

Thanks,
Finn
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Re: Laptop mode for FreeBSD

2005-07-27 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
On 7/26/05, Richard Lupton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have an old NEC Versa LX laptop with a very noisy disk. Mostly from
> the point of view of making it quieter, rather than saving power, I
> would like to let the disk spin down in the same way as laptop_mode
> does for linux.
> I can set the standby time and power saving options for the disk using
> ataidle, but the disk doesn't stay spun down for any length of time.
> Does anyone know of an equivalent to laptop_mode, or alternatively the
> appropriate sysctls to postpone disk access?
> 
AFAIK, one doesn't exist.  Feel free to write one.  Anyways, in a more
productive manner...By disabling things that poll disk (cron, for
instance), disabling access times (mount with noatime), and
intelligent use of ramdisks, the disk can spend a lot of time spun
down.

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Laptop mode for FreeBSD

2005-07-25 Thread Richard Lupton
Hello,

I have an old NEC Versa LX laptop with a very noisy disk. Mostly from
the point of view of making it quieter, rather than saving power, I
would like to let the disk spin down in the same way as laptop_mode
does for linux.
I can set the standby time and power saving options for the disk using
ataidle, but the disk doesn't stay spun down for any length of time.
Does anyone know of an equivalent to laptop_mode, or alternatively the
appropriate sysctls to postpone disk access?

Thanks,
Richard
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laptop with another monitor X configuration

2005-07-18 Thread Lei CHEN
Hi experts,

I am looking a way to use both the laptop native lcd monitor and
another CRT monitor.

I pluged in the monitor, nothing happens. I can only switch between
them by pressing the Fn+monitorSwitch button on my keyboard.

I modified /etc/X11/XF86Config, as in the attachment. I have changed
few sections according to some resources I found by googling.

Has anyone got the same situation, please send me a copy of your
XF86Config or Xorg config file.

Thanks in advanced.
LEI

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Discovery The Binary Path


XF86Config
Description: Binary data
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RE: how to install on laptop? video issue?

2005-06-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter van der
>Linden
>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:06 PM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: how to install on laptop? video issue?
>
>
>I want to install FreeBSD 5.4 onto a partition on my 1 year old HP
>laptop.
>
>I've done a lot of Linux distro installs, and sometimes I need to give
>the installer a hint about the graphics card,
>typically something  like:
>
>boot: linux vga=771
>
>When I try the FreeBSD installer, the screen goes blank about 5 seconds
>after it starts booting from the CD, typically at the point where it
>switches to X Window in a Linux install.
>

The FreeBSD 5.4 installer does not switch to a graphical X windows screen
during the installation precisely to prevent the sort of problem that
Linux
distros have with hardware like yours.  What most likely happened is that
something in
the FreeBSD kernel probe tickled some hardware in the laptop and made
the system either freeze up, or switch off the LCD screen.

You might try it with a monitor plugged into the video port and see what
happens - also try the keypress sequence on your laptop that switches the
video between screen and external port just to see if the screen comes
back.

Make sure your running the latest BIOS update for your laptop, you can
download that from HP.

Also see if there is an option to turn ACPI off in your BIOS and try
installing with it off.

You might have to turn it off at the boot loader with the command
unset acpi_load

This is discussed here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.html


Ted

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Re: how to install on laptop? video issue?

2005-06-20 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 6/20/05, Peter van der Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to install FreeBSD 5.4 onto a partition on my 1 year old HP
> laptop.
> 
> I've done a lot of Linux distro installs, and sometimes I need to give
> the installer a hint about the graphics card,
> typically something  like:
> 
> boot: linux vga=771
> 
> When I try the FreeBSD installer, the screen goes blank about 5 seconds
> after it starts booting from the CD, typically at the point where it
> switches to X Window in a Linux install.
> 
> Is there a similar hint I can give FreeBSD about the type of graphics
> to use?  What are the syntax and choices?
> I have googled for this without success.  Thanks,

I doubt this is graphics. FreeBSD installer works in text mode. Can
you see the initial menu (with FreeBSD mascot, ASCII-art style, on the
right side of the screen) before the screen gets blank?

-- 
Dmitry

"We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E"
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how to install on laptop? video issue?

2005-06-19 Thread Peter van der Linden
I want to install FreeBSD 5.4 onto a partition on my 1 year old HP 
laptop.


I've done a lot of Linux distro installs, and sometimes I need to give 
the installer a hint about the graphics card,

typically something  like:

boot: linux vga=771

When I try the FreeBSD installer, the screen goes blank about 5 seconds 
after it starts booting from the CD, typically at the point where it 
switches to X Window in a Linux install.


Is there a similar hint I can give FreeBSD about the type of graphics 
to use?  What are the syntax and choices?

I have googled for this without success.  Thanks,

Peter

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Re: sony laptop - xorg comes up in small box

2005-05-21 Thread Tony Shadwick
Try editing xorg.conf and putting your correct screen resolution in as the 
only option.


On Sat, 21 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm trying to install get xorg running on my Sony Vaio PCG FX-150, running FBSD
5.4. When I "startx", X comes up in the small rectangular box the same as the
console. How do I get X to take up my full screen and also how could I go about
doing that for the consoles. The X driver I'm using is the i810-i815 driver.
Also, I am having difficulty locating information for the horizontal and
vertial sync rates for my display (checked google and sony website). That might
have something to do with it. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks.
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sony laptop - xorg comes up in small box

2005-05-21 Thread jrb0234
I'm trying to install get xorg running on my Sony Vaio PCG FX-150, running FBSD 
5.4. When I "startx", X comes up in the small rectangular box the same as the 
console. How do I get X to take up my full screen and also how could I go about 
doing that for the consoles. The X driver I'm using is the i810-i815 driver. 
Also, I am having difficulty locating information for the horizontal and 
vertial sync rates for my display (checked google and sony website). That might 
have something to do with it. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks.
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Interrupt storm in Compaq Presario Laptop

2005-05-21 Thread Simeon Nifos
Dear fellows,
I have a Compaq presario 1230 laptop here!

FreeBSD 4.11

Installs fine but: 
a) USB port doesn't work
b) touchpad doesn't work
c) /dev/psm0 cannot be found in /dev

FreeBSD 5.4 and 5.3
---
Installs fine but: 
a) USB port works fine
b) touchpad doesn't work
c) /dev/psm0 cannot be found in /dev
d) time passes too quickly! 1 minute in FreeBSD 5.4
and
   5.3 passes every 10 seconds. 

Below I attached the output of 
ls /dev
more /etc/rc.conf
dmesg

Any ideas how can I fix those problems?
Thanks in advance!

This is my dev directory

acd0
acd0t01
ad0
ad0s1
ad0s1a
ad0s1b
ad0s1c
ad0s1d
ad0s1e
ad0s1f
ata
atkbd0
console
consolectl
ctty
cuaa0
cuaia0
cuala0
devctl
devstat
fd
fd0
fido
geom.ctl
io
kbd0
klog
kmem
log
mdctl
mem
net
net1
net2
network
nfs4
null
pci
ptyp0
ptyp1
ptyp2
random
stderr
stdin
stdout
sysmouse
ttyd0
ttyid0
ttyld0
ttyp0
ttyp1
ttyp2
ttyv0
ttyv1
ttyv2
ttyv3
ttyv4
ttyv5
ttyv6
ttyv7
ttyv8
ttyv9
ttyva
ttyvb
ttyvc
ttyvd
ttyve
ttyvf
ums0
urandom
usb
usb0
xpt0
zero

This is my /etc/rc.conf
---

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat May 21
12:34:39 2005
# Created: Sat May 21 12:34:38 2005
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to
/etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from
/etc/defaults/rc.conf.
defaultrouter="195.251.194.200"
hostname="nevra.materials.uoi.gr"
ifconfig_ed1="inet 195.251.194.137  netmask
255.255.255.128"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_enable="NO"
moused_port="/dev/cuaa3"
moused_type="auto"
sshd_enable="YES"
usbd_enable="YES"


This is my dmesg

Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,
1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All
rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May  8 10:21:06 UTC 2005
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Cyrix GXm (24.45-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "CyrixInstead"  Id = 0x540  DIR=0x3544 
Stepping=3  Revision=5
real memory  = 100663296 (96 MB)
avail memory = 88838144 (84 MB)
pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
cpu0 on motherboard
pcib0:  pcibus 0 on motherboard
pir0:  on
motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
cbb0:  at device 17.0 on
pci0
cardbus0:  on cbb0
pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
cbb1:  at device 17.1 on
pci0
cardbus1:  on cbb1
pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1
isab0:  port
0x5000-0x500f,0x4000-0x401f,0x3000-0x307f mem
0x4001-0x40010fff at device 18.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
ohci0:  mem
0xfedfe000-0xfedfefff irq 9 at device 19.0 on pci0
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0:  on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: (0x0e11) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0:  at device 20.0 (no driver
attached)
orm0:  at iomem 0xc-0xc9fff on
isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0
ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0
atkbdc0:  at port
0x64,0x60 on isa0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5
irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
0xa-0xb on isa0
uhub1: Atmel product 0x3311, class 9/0, rev 1.00/3.00,
addr 2
uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 24447264 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
ad0: 3100MB  [6300/16/63] at
ata0-master PIO4
acd0: CDROM  at
ata1-master PIO4
ed1:  at port 0x300-0x31f irq 9
function 0 config 32 on pccard0
ed1: Ethernet address: 00:a0:0c:12:74:2e
ed1: if_start running deferred for Giant
ed1: type NE2000 (16 bit) 
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
/usr: mount pending error: blocks 12 files 1
WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted
/var: mount pending error: blocks 8 files 2
ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with
IntelliEye(TM), rev 1.10/3.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1
ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
uhub1: illegal enable change, port 1




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Re: Toshiba Portégé 4000 laptop

2005-04-24 Thread Laurent Debacker
Okay the solution is to disable COM and Parallel ports in the bios.
(Maybe also USB KB, and USB FDD). To access the bios you have to press
ESC while the red TOSHIBA boot screen is displayed, then press F1. (I
explain that becaused it's undocumented).

With the default settings, I even got the 5.x kernel to panic. Really strange.

Thanks for your help ;)

On 4/23/05, Laurent Debacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With FreeSBIE 1.1 (based on FreeBSD 5.3), it says:
> acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left)
> acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG timed out
> Then it stop/freezes.
> If I press the power button, it says "acpi: suspend request ignored
> (not ready yet)."
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 4/23/05, Laurent Debacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I tried 5.4-RC3 with no ACPI, safe mode, and DEBUG mode, without
> > success. DEBUG doesn't repport anything.
> >
> > 5.3 also crashes in safe mode, and no ACPI, freezes after "pci0:  > bus> on pcib0".
> >
> > dmesg on 4.11 reports:
> > ohci0:  mem
> > 0xf7eff000-0xf7ef irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0.
> > You can see full report below.
> >
> > Thank you for your help ;)
> > Laurent.
> >
> > Here are drivers loaded by 4.11 as reported by dmesg:
> > md0: Preloaded image  4423680 bytes at 0xc03edc14
> > md1: Malloc disk
> > Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f01d0
> > npx0:  on motherboard
> > npx0: INT 16 interface
> > pcib0:  on motherboard
> > pci0:  on pcib0
> > pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
> > pci1:  on pcib1
> > pci1:  at 0.0 irq 11
> > ohci0:  mem
> > 0xf7eff000-0xf7ef irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0
> > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
> > usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
> > usb0:  on ohci0
> > usb0: USB revision 1.0
> > uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> > uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
> > atapci0:  port 0xeff0-0xefff at
> > device 4.0 on pci0
> > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> > pci0:  (vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5451) at 6.0
> > isab0:  at device 7.0 on pci0
> > isa0:  on isab0
> > chip1:  at device 8.0 on pci0
> > fxp0:  port 0xeec0-0xeeff mem
> > 0xf7d0-0xf7df,0xf7efe000-0xf7efefff irq 11 at device 10.0 on
> > pci0
> > fxp0: Ethernet address 00:00:39:a7:a0:b4
> > inphy0:  on miibus0
> > inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> > pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (3) to hard-routed irq 11
> > pci_cfgintr: 0:16 INTA routed to irq11
> > pcic0:  irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0
> > pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x8800
> > pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only]
> > pccard0:  on pcic0
> > pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (1) to hard-routed irq 11
> > pci_cfgintr: 0:17 INTA routed to irq11
> > pcic1:  irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0
> > pcic1: PCI Memory allocated: 0x88001000
> > pccard1:  on pcic1
> > pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (2) to hard-routed irq 11
> > pci_cfgintr: 0:17 INTB routed to irq11
> > pcic2:  irq 11 at device 17.1 on pci0
> > pcic2: PCI Memory allocated: 0x88002000
> > pccard2:  on pcic2
> > pci0:  (vendor=0x1179, dev=0x0805) at 18.0
> > orm0:  at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff,0xe-0xe on isa0
> > pmtimer0 on isa0
> > fdc0: ready for input in output
> > fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
> > atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> > atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq1 on atkbdc0
> > kbd0 at atkbd0
> > psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> > psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
> > vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
> > sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
> > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> > sio0: type 16550A
> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > ppc0: parallel port not found.
> > pccard: card inserted, slot0
> > pccard: card removed, slot0
> > ad0: 16077MB  [38760/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
> > acd0: DVD-ROM  at ata1-master PIO4
> >
> > On 4/23/05, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Laurent Debacker wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >Both FreeBSD 5.3 and 5.4-RC3 freeze during the boot of the kernel. It
> > > >detects my CPU, RAM, some ACPI stuffs.. I noticed
> > > >pci1:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached).
> > > >I don't know if it's ok.
> > > >At the end, it says ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > > >then usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support,
> > > >then nothing.
> > > >
> > > >FreeBSD 4.11 boots well. However I don't want FreeBSD 4.11 ;)
> > > >
> > > >Any idea?
> > > >
> > > >Thank you,
> > > >Laurent Debacker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > What does the 4.11 dmesg say about the ochi device?
> > >
> > > Can you boot safe mode on 5.X?  Have you tried booting
> > > with ACPI disabled?
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > KDK
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Toshiba Portégé 4000 laptop

2005-04-23 Thread Laurent Debacker
With FreeSBIE 1.1 (based on FreeBSD 5.3), it says:
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left)
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG timed out
Then it stop/freezes.
If I press the power button, it says "acpi: suspend request ignored
(not ready yet)."

Thanks.

On 4/23/05, Laurent Debacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried 5.4-RC3 with no ACPI, safe mode, and DEBUG mode, without
> success. DEBUG doesn't repport anything.
> 
> 5.3 also crashes in safe mode, and no ACPI, freezes after "pci0:  bus> on pcib0".
> 
> dmesg on 4.11 reports:
> ohci0:  mem
> 0xf7eff000-0xf7ef irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0.
> You can see full report below.
> 
> Thank you for your help ;)
> Laurent.
> 
> Here are drivers loaded by 4.11 as reported by dmesg:
> md0: Preloaded image  4423680 bytes at 0xc03edc14
> md1: Malloc disk
> Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f01d0
> npx0:  on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> pcib0:  on motherboard
> pci0:  on pcib0
> pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
> pci1:  on pcib1
> pci1:  at 0.0 irq 11
> ohci0:  mem
> 0xf7eff000-0xf7ef irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0
> usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
> usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
> usb0:  on ohci0
> usb0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
> atapci0:  port 0xeff0-0xefff at
> device 4.0 on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> pci0:  (vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5451) at 6.0
> isab0:  at device 7.0 on pci0
> isa0:  on isab0
> chip1:  at device 8.0 on pci0
> fxp0:  port 0xeec0-0xeeff mem
> 0xf7d0-0xf7df,0xf7efe000-0xf7efefff irq 11 at device 10.0 on
> pci0
> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:00:39:a7:a0:b4
> inphy0:  on miibus0
> inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (3) to hard-routed irq 11
> pci_cfgintr: 0:16 INTA routed to irq11
> pcic0:  irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0
> pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x8800
> pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only]
> pccard0:  on pcic0
> pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (1) to hard-routed irq 11
> pci_cfgintr: 0:17 INTA routed to irq11
> pcic1:  irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0
> pcic1: PCI Memory allocated: 0x88001000
> pccard1:  on pcic1
> pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (2) to hard-routed irq 11
> pci_cfgintr: 0:17 INTB routed to irq11
> pcic2:  irq 11 at device 17.1 on pci0
> pcic2: PCI Memory allocated: 0x88002000
> pccard2:  on pcic2
> pci0:  (vendor=0x1179, dev=0x0805) at 18.0
> orm0:  at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff,0xe-0xe on isa0
> pmtimer0 on isa0
> fdc0: ready for input in output
> fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
> atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq1 on atkbdc0
> kbd0 at atkbd0
> psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
> vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
> sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> ppc0: parallel port not found.
> pccard: card inserted, slot0
> pccard: card removed, slot0
> ad0: 16077MB  [38760/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
> acd0: DVD-ROM  at ata1-master PIO4
> 
> On 4/23/05, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Laurent Debacker wrote:
> >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >Both FreeBSD 5.3 and 5.4-RC3 freeze during the boot of the kernel. It
> > >detects my CPU, RAM, some ACPI stuffs.. I noticed
> > >pci1:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached).
> > >I don't know if it's ok.
> > >At the end, it says ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> > >then usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support,
> > >then nothing.
> > >
> > >FreeBSD 4.11 boots well. However I don't want FreeBSD 4.11 ;)
> > >
> > >Any idea?
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >Laurent Debacker.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > What does the 4.11 dmesg say about the ochi device?
> >
> > Can you boot safe mode on 5.X?  Have you tried booting
> > with ACPI disabled?
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > KDK
> >
> >
>
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Re: Toshiba Portégé 4000 laptop

2005-04-23 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Laurent Debacker wrote:
Hello,
Both FreeBSD 5.3 and 5.4-RC3 freeze during the boot of the kernel. It
detects my CPU, RAM, some ACPI stuffs.. I noticed
pci1:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached).
I don't know if it's ok.
At the end, it says ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
then usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support,
then nothing.
FreeBSD 4.11 boots well. However I don't want FreeBSD 4.11 ;)
Any idea?
Thank you,
Laurent Debacker.
 

What does the 4.11 dmesg say about the ochi device?
Can you boot safe mode on 5.X?  Have you tried booting
with ACPI disabled?
HTH,
KDK  

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Toshiba Portégé 4000 laptop

2005-04-23 Thread Laurent Debacker
Hello,

Both FreeBSD 5.3 and 5.4-RC3 freeze during the boot of the kernel. It
detects my CPU, RAM, some ACPI stuffs.. I noticed
pci1:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached).
I don't know if it's ok.
At the end, it says ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
then usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support,
then nothing.

FreeBSD 4.11 boots well. However I don't want FreeBSD 4.11 ;)

Any idea?

Thank you,
Laurent Debacker.
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Re: my ethernet to my laptop/getting the tcp/X11 socket up

2005-03-31 Thread Chuck Robey
wizlayer wrote:
On Thursday 31 March 2005 12:41 pm, Chuck Robey wrote:
[snip]
I installed it, it worked with the rl0 driver. 
Sometimes.

Why sometimes?  Smart guy, that's question 1.  The indication I
get is, I get an error (tcp error) soemthing like this one
below (they're not all alike):
Mar 30 21:37:52 september kernel: rl0: discard frame w/o
leading ethernet header (len 2 pkt len 2)
Well, the result is always the same, which is that the rl0 line
stops dead in it's tracks.  I can do a ifconfig down/ifconfig
up and clear it, but every time I do that, I take a 1 in 5
chance of getting a kernel panic.  It's not something I crave
to do a lot, so I can't just dismiss it by making a utility to
down/up the interface.  I need this fixed.
[snip]
I'm quite, *quite* willing to buy another ehternet card.  The
one I have is a D-Link, the dmesg reports:
miibus0:  on rl0
Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0:  on miibus0
Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0:  10baseT,
10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rl0: Ethernet address:
00:0d:88:27:c4:38
OK, so I'm looking for advice on the ethernet problem, and
maybe
[snip]
Are you sure the network card itself isn't hosed?
I had a cheapo network card that did something very similar.  In 
fact, I'm pretty sure it had a realtek chipset too (although I'm 
not lifting a finger in their direction)...  Worked fine, then 
weird errors and *lights out*...  Turned out to be the NIC itself 
(why sometimes?  who knows...  temperature, defunct buffer 
After a lot of swimming thru the mail search page, I found that there 
are a LOT of problems that have  in common these items:

1) rl0 interface
2) FreeBSD5.3
3) error messages of the form "rl0: discard oversize frame"
There are a pretty fair number of these, from various sources.  Fact. 
At least one of them claimed it was solved in RELENG_5.  Sure wish I 
could locate the other mails in THAT chain (I spent 20 minutes trying to).

So my fix sounds like it boils down to one of two items: either getting 
someone who knows 5.3 better than I do to recommend a cardbus device 
that would be sound (a vendor) and I would run right out and buy it, or 
I suppose I could get the required sources burnt onto a cdrom, and get 
them on that laptop that way, recompile, and see about reinstalling.

I am loath to try that second method only cause I have all that userland 
software that I mustn't lose compatibiilty with, and it's got all those 
dependencies (sleepycat database, python, gtk, 3 1/2 pounds of my 
coding).  I want to do the minimum necessary to get it working.

So, if one of you folks can recommend a cardbus card that I oughta buy, 
that doesn't use the rl0 driver, that would be nice.  mail me a *.ko for 
it, and I would love you forever.  Skip that last part if you want, 
cause maybe I could do it, but I wasn't joking about wanting to mess 
with this the least I can, it's a fragile stack of software.

maybe?).
my .02,
WizLayer
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Re: my ethernet to my laptop/getting the tcp/X11 socket up

2005-03-31 Thread wizlayer
On Thursday 31 March 2005 12:41 pm, Chuck Robey wrote:
[snip]
> I installed it, it worked with the rl0 driver. 
> Sometimes.
>
> Why sometimes?  Smart guy, that's question 1.  The indication I
> get is, I get an error (tcp error) soemthing like this one
> below (they're not all alike):
>
> Mar 30 21:37:52 september kernel: rl0: discard frame w/o
> leading ethernet header (len 2 pkt len 2)
>
> Well, the result is always the same, which is that the rl0 line
> stops dead in it's tracks.  I can do a ifconfig down/ifconfig
> up and clear it, but every time I do that, I take a 1 in 5
> chance of getting a kernel panic.  It's not something I crave
> to do a lot, so I can't just dismiss it by making a utility to
> down/up the interface.  I need this fixed.
>
> [snip]
>
> I'm quite, *quite* willing to buy another ehternet card.  The
> one I have is a D-Link, the dmesg reports:
>
> miibus0:  on rl0
> Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0:  media interface> on miibus0
> Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0:  10baseT,
> 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rl0: Ethernet address:
> 00:0d:88:27:c4:38
>
> OK, so I'm looking for advice on the ethernet problem, and
> maybe
[snip]

Are you sure the network card itself isn't hosed?

I had a cheapo network card that did something very similar.  In 
fact, I'm pretty sure it had a realtek chipset too (although I'm 
not lifting a finger in their direction)...  Worked fine, then 
weird errors and *lights out*...  Turned out to be the NIC itself 
(why sometimes?  who knows...  temperature, defunct buffer 
maybe?).

my .02,

WizLayer
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my ethernet to my laptop/getting the tcp/X11 socket up

2005-03-31 Thread Chuck Robey
Well, I need to get two problems off my chest, so to speak, well, really 
3 problems.  May as well hit the easiest first, which is getting the X11 
tcp socket opened up.

BACKGROUND: I want to give the database I wrote to the friend of mine I 
wrote it for.  I got a laptop that sort of fell into my lap, but it 
didn't come with an ethernet, so I had a ethernet card lying around (I 
forget the name of the outboard cards for laptops, this is the very 
first time for me, using a laptop).  I installed it, it worked with the 
rl0 driver.  Sometimes.

Why sometimes?  Smart guy, that's question 1.  The indication I get is, 
I get an error (tcp error) soemthing like this one below (they're not 
all alike):

Mar 30 21:37:52 september kernel: rl0: discard frame w/o leading 
ethernet header (len 2 pkt len 2)

Well, the result is always the same, which is that the rl0 line stops 
dead in it's tracks.  I can do a ifconfig down/ifconfig up and clear it, 
but every time I do that, I take a 1 in 5 chance of getting a kernel 
panic.  It's not something I crave to do a lot, so I can't just dismiss 
it by making a utility to down/up the interface.  I need this fixed.

My kernel is 5.3 stable.  I picked it because it was the only one of all 
of the ones I could pick (and I did try them all) that seemed compatible 
not only with the ethernet card, but also the usb trackball I like (I 
hate mice) and that the available X for that version knows the usb 
drivers.  Too early and it won't work with ums0.

OK, I'd like suggestions from someone who knows the history, is there 
any easy fix for the rl0 driver I'm using, that will allow it to work 
stably?  Anyone know of any problem like what I've described?

Second set of problems is easier to describe: I want to get the tcp 
sockets on X turned on.  I know about the -no-tcp, and there are 
unfortunately too many places that it could be turned off.  On my 
server, running FreeBSD-6.0 (it's an opteron, dual) I am running a very 
 very reent kde (damn but that compiled easily!)  On the other machine, 
well, today it's FreeBSD-5.3 like I said.  Maybe you'll change my mind. 
On neither machine am I running any sort of login daemon, it's just 
startx.  I sure wish that the darned security person who got them to 
bias the options against running that socket would undo his work.  I 
don't mind the option existing, but making it the default was a rotten 
thing to do to me.

I won't listen to anyone who tells me to upgrade my laptop for the hell 
of it, because my app is python/gtk, and needs too many parts to work 
together for me to risk breaking what works today just for the hell of 
it.  Give me a solid reason, and then I'll do it.

I'm quite, *quite* willing to buy another ehternet card.  The one I have 
is a D-Link, the dmesg reports:

miibus0:  on rl0
Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0:  on miibus0
Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 
100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:88:27:c4:38

OK, so I'm looking for advice on the ethernet problem, and maybe
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Re: Best way to handle network interfaces on a laptop?

2005-03-29 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 29, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Mac Mason wrote:
Specifically, much of the use of this machine is in unwired sorts of
places, where I want to use the wi0 interface and not the xl0 
interface.

If I don't have xl0 in /etc/rc.conf, and then dhclient wi0, it works
fine.
If I do have xl0 in rc.conf, I can't figure out how to make wi0 route
things if it isn't plugged into a wire.
Try:

route delete default
route add default IP_of_wireless_NIC
It may be that deleting the default route first, before you grab a 
lease via "dhclient wi0" would also set up a new default route for 
you...

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Best way to handle network interfaces on a laptop?

2005-03-29 Thread Mac Mason
So, I've got a laptop with two network interfaces (a wired one, xl0, and
a wireless, wi0).

The network setup around here gives me a static IP for the wired
inteface, and DHCP for the wireless.

My question has (I think) to do with routing; when I have the config for
xl0 in /etc/rc.conf, and it starts on boot, starting wi0 doesn't help
with connectivity.

Specifically, much of the use of this machine is in unwired sorts of
places, where I want to use the wi0 interface and not the xl0 interface. 

If I don't have xl0 in /etc/rc.conf, and then dhclient wi0, it works
fine.

If I do have xl0 in rc.conf, I can't figure out how to make wi0 route
things if it isn't plugged into a wire.

ifconfig xl0 down, which I thought would work, doesn't.

Help?

Thanks!

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RE: keyboard problem on laptop.

2005-03-10 Thread Dennis Crowley
Sorry folks.  Its the laptop.  Tried xev and got nothing when pressing
the shift keys (both of them).

Popped in an old windows disk, and it seems that it's not working for
windows either.

It's been so long since I've used this machine, and it was working when
I had my last OS on it, so I made a bad assumption.  Thanks for the help,
and again, sorry for the red herring.

Dennis.

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Nathan Kinkade
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:22 AM
> To: Dennis Crowley
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: keyboard problem on laptop.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 05:03:07PM -0800, Dennis Crowley wrote:
> > Hi yall.
> > 
> > I've installed FreeBSD on my old Dell Insperion 7500, which I would like
> > to use as a router (low power) and network analysis tool.
> > 
> > The problem is that the keyboard driver does not seem to be recognizing
> > the shift key.  Does this sound wierd (i.e. my hardware) or reasonable
> > (i.e. wierd but functional hardware with a mismatched driver).
> > 
> > I'm not sure how I would go about trying to correct this issue.
> > 
> > Any ideas where I should begin?
> > 
> > Dennis Crowley.
> 
> How positive are you that the key is not just broken?  Are you running X
> on the machine?  If so, you can use a little stock X program called xev
> to view what events X is receiving, such as keystrokes.  xev will tell
> you what keycode was pressed and the symname.  Here is an example of the
> output when I run xev and then press the left Shift key:
> 
> KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
> root 0x60, subw 0x0, time 755249477, (-600,175), root:(221,475),
> state 0x10, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> Perhaps this will help you to identify what, if anything, X is seeing
> when you press the Shift key.
> 
> Nathan
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Re: keyboard problem on laptop.

2005-03-09 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 05:03:07PM -0800, Dennis Crowley wrote:
> Hi yall.
> 
> I've installed FreeBSD on my old Dell Insperion 7500, which I would like
> to use as a router (low power) and network analysis tool.
> 
> The problem is that the keyboard driver does not seem to be recognizing
> the shift key.  Does this sound wierd (i.e. my hardware) or reasonable
> (i.e. wierd but functional hardware with a mismatched driver).
> 
> I'm not sure how I would go about trying to correct this issue.
> 
> Any ideas where I should begin?
> 
> Dennis Crowley.

How positive are you that the key is not just broken?  Are you running X
on the machine?  If so, you can use a little stock X program called xev
to view what events X is receiving, such as keystrokes.  xev will tell
you what keycode was pressed and the symname.  Here is an example of the
output when I run xev and then press the left Shift key:

KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
root 0x60, subw 0x0, time 755249477, (-600,175), root:(221,475),
state 0x10, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

Perhaps this will help you to identify what, if anything, X is seeing
when you press the Shift key.

Nathan


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Re: keyboard problem on laptop.

2005-03-08 Thread Jason Henson
On 03/08/05 20:03:07, Dennis Crowley wrote:
Hi yall.
I've installed FreeBSD on my old Dell Insperion 7500, which I would
like
to use as a router (low power) and network analysis tool.
The problem is that the keyboard driver does not seem to be
recognizing
the shift key.  Does this sound wierd (i.e. my hardware) or  
reasonable
(i.e. wierd but functional hardware with a mismatched driver).

I'm not sure how I would go about trying to correct this issue.
Any ideas where I should begin?
Dennis Crowley.
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keyboard problem on laptop.

2005-03-08 Thread Dennis Crowley
Hi yall.

I've installed FreeBSD on my old Dell Insperion 7500, which I would like
to use as a router (low power) and network analysis tool.

The problem is that the keyboard driver does not seem to be recognizing
the shift key.  Does this sound wierd (i.e. my hardware) or reasonable
(i.e. wierd but functional hardware with a mismatched driver).

I'm not sure how I would go about trying to correct this issue.

Any ideas where I should begin?

Dennis Crowley.
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Re: asking for a help, about FreeBSD compatibility with HP nx9020 (Laptop)

2005-03-06 Thread Volker Kindermann
Hi Tomas,

i plan to begin use freeBSD in my home computer,
i'd like to ask You: does my laptop HP nc9020 is compatiable with freeBSD?
what is extra points of configuring Xorg server and compiling kernel?
I don't know this laptop, but you may try the following:
Download the FreeSBIE CD, burn it and try to boot it with your laptop. 
If it succeeds, FreeBSD will run on your machine.

You can get FreeSBIE here:
http://www.freesbie.org/
 -volker
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asking for a help, about FreeBSD compatibility with HP nx9020 (Laptop)

2005-03-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
i plan to begin use freeBSD in my home computer,
i'd like to ask You: does my laptop HP nc9020 is compatiable with freeBSD?
what is extra points of configuring Xorg server and compiling kernel?
p.s. sorry for  my language :-) (i am from Lithuania)
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Re: Averatec 3200 Laptop Wireless?

2005-03-03 Thread Xavier Maillard

Scorpion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone got an AVERATEC 3200 Series laptop with the
> built-in wireless working?

Is it based on the Centrino chips ?

If so, you can simply try to play with Intel firmware and install
if_pw drivers.

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Re: Averatec 3200 Laptop Wireless?

2005-03-03 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:10:32 -0800 (PST), Scorpion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone got an AVERATEC 3200 Series laptop with the
> built-in wireless working?

I don't have that kind of hardware, but

>
> On Windows it says "802.11g MiniPC Wireless Network
> Adapter"
> I can't find the driver for my wireless connection.

The ath(4) device driver supports 802.11a and 802.11g. If your card is
based on an
Atheros chipset, you may be able to use this driver.

see the Handbook, chapter Wireless Networking:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html

You have to get the Windows drivers and compile the ndis(4) mini port
driver wrapper module.

>
> Please help.
>

Hope this helps,

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Averatec 3200 Laptop Wireless?

2005-03-03 Thread Scorpion
Anyone got an AVERATEC 3200 Series laptop with the
built-in wireless working?

On Windows it says "802.11g MiniPC Wireless Network
Adapter", manufacturer and driver provided by "802.11
Wireless". --- ?!?!?!?!?

I can't find the driver for my wireless connection.

Please help.




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RE: Toshiba Satellite laptop

2005-02-26 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 05:56, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Do you just want a bigger disk?
> 
> If so, then go for it - although if the disk is buried in the
> laptop, it's worth it to pay someone else to install it as you
> aren't going to have the tools to take it apart, nor are you going
> to have the instructions on how to get it apart.
> 
> Ted
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> > 
> > 
> > I was thinking of getting a spare hard disk for a Toshiba Satellite
> > laptop (Pentium 3 with 256MB).  Does anyone have any good or bad
> > experiences?  It runs Knoppix perfectly well.
> > 
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I need to keep the existing Windows configuration intact on the old
disk, but would also like to try FreeBSD on this machine.

The disk seems to be designed to be easily removed in this model - there
are just two screws to undo, and it unplugs as a sealed unit.  I took
the old one out and put it back in with no trouble, and it still worked
normally.

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RE: Toshiba Satellite laptop

2005-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Do you just want a bigger disk?

If so, then go for it - although if the disk is buried in the
laptop, it's worth it to pay someone else to install it as you
aren't going to have the tools to take it apart, nor are you going
to have the instructions on how to get it apart.

Ted

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> 
> I was thinking of getting a spare hard disk for a Toshiba Satellite
> laptop (Pentium 3 with 256MB).  Does anyone have any good or bad
> experiences?  It runs Knoppix perfectly well.
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Toshiba Satellite laptop

2005-02-25 Thread Mike Jeays
I was thinking of getting a spare hard disk for a Toshiba Satellite
laptop (Pentium 3 with 256MB).  Does anyone have any good or bad
experiences?  It runs Knoppix perfectly well.


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RE: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
> Atkielski
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:23 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.
>

> > While this has (mostly) gone away for desktop systems, it is
> still going
> > on fiercely with laptops.
>
> One reason why I've always hated laptops.
>

ditto!

> > First of all HP purchased Compaq a while ago, and when the sale was
> > completed they dumped the Netserver line, servers from them are
> > now HP Proliants. (Proliant was the Compaq line)
>
> Are they as good as their HP and Compaq predecessors?
>

Very much so.  One of the things that HP did that was smart after the
Compaq merger is they didn't screw with the server design and
manufacturing
group.  (However the sales/customer service/ordering side of the company
is
a mess, that's why Carly got nailed)

You have to take a lot of the trade rag articles with a grain of salt.
It's
currently fashionable for the trade press to write articles calling for
HP to
spin off it's PC computer group as if that's going to save them money
somehow,
followed by bemoaning the poor quality of the HP desktops.  The articles
conclude
that HP must have lost focus since they can't made a decent PC.

What this misses is that HP is like all other major PC manufacturers, all
of their desktop line that's aimed at the home user/small business
desktop
market is just badged Chinese/Korean schlock.  They have the cases,
components,
boards, chips, etc. all made in Korea then import the finished assemblies
to
the country of sale, and assemble them there at high speed.  (Dell's
plant
in Texas can pump them out at a rate of 1 every 1.5 seconds)  The
assemblies
are all using the same parts and the systems are pretty much equally
schlocky.
The companies that make profits in this market are the companies that can
slap them together the fastest.  HP's stuff is no worse or better than
anyone else's in this market.

The server design and manufacturing is a totally different animal.  The
companies like HP and Dell that make them custom design a large amount of
the
stuff and the assembly isn't the million-miles-a-second frantic pace of
the desktop junk.

> > The Netservers and Proliants in general never had touble
> with FreeBSD.
> > Considering they certified them with Solaris/Netware/etc. they had to
> > be pretty standard.
>
> Compaq Proliants had a lot of weird stuff running on the server, as I
> recall.  As long as you stuck to the OEM versions it ran fine, but if
> you tried to wipe the machine and install a vanilla OS, things went
> wrong.
>

Not if you know what your doing.  The sister company of the ISP I work at
was
a Compaq VAR, (is now an HP VAR) and all our servers are Proliants of
various models.

Yes, there is a lot of specialty hardware in these boxes.  And yes
to access all of that requires a handful of custom drivers.  But, OEM
versions of the operating systems aren't a requirement.  You can install
retail versions just fine - AS LONG AS you follow Compaq's instructions
on how to install the retail OS's exactly.

There is for example several hardware items in some of these servers
where they are modded versions of off-the-shelf chips, and Compaq
supplies modded windows drivers.  If you don't use the Compaq driver then
the retail OS will install it's included driver for the off-the-shelf
version of the chip.  And you only get 1 chance during the install of
the retail OS that you can insert the Compaq-written driver properly.
If you miss it, you have to wipe the disk and start over because the
retail driver cannot be removed.

There's unfortunately too many people in the business used to
shooting from the hip on windows installs.  Someone who didn't read the
directions for the Proliant on how to install a retail version
of Windows, for example, assuming "I've installed windows a hundred
times I know what I'm doing and don't need no manual for dummies"
is of course going to have things going wrong.

> > Fine advice for low-end servers and desktops.  Terrible for high-end
> > servers unless you really, really know what your doing, and you
> > understand that your total cost will be more than if you just buy
> > a turnkey server from someone.  And rather impossible for laptops.
>
> Impossible for laptops, yes.  I assume anyone who needs a really
> high-end server is going to know a lot about what he is doing, anyway

Not at all realistic.  The VAST and I mean VAST majority of people that
need a high-end server are not technologists and don't know what the
heck they are doing.  They know whatever their business is like the
back of their ha

Re: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-14 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Fabian Anklam writes:

> We recently had a Proliant DL380 for testing, seemed like solid
> hardware, literally, the server management CD for preparing the system
> for different flavors of OSes just worked as it was supposed to ...

What preparation is required?  Can't you just wipe the disk and install
what you want, or has HP/Compaq screwed around with the hardware so much
that this is no longer possible?

Do they provide for FreeBSD in their "preparations"?

> The usual (old) Compaq problems reside in the system partion (or
> rather lack thereof) and for the Desktops in the less than mediocre
> BIOS. For the older PL servers a server management boot CD is usually
> all you need to get whatever you want running, for the Desktops it
> usually involves hunting down some firmware upgrades and boot disks to
> restore the system partition, nothing out of the ordinary.

So they are just as bad as they used to be.  Compaq's own garbage on
their machines has always been a support headache.  They just can't
leave things alone.

> My FreeBSD box runs on a Deskpro EP 400 desktop coupled with a
> SMART2/SL RAID controller ripped out of a PL1600 - you can love or
> hate compaq, but their hardware was rock-solid.

The hardware itself has had a very good reputation.  I'm happy to hear
that this is still the case (and unhappy to hear that they still can't
keep their hands out of it).

-- 
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Re: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-14 Thread Fabian Anklam
> > First of all HP purchased Compaq a while ago, and when the sale was
> > completed they dumped the Netserver line, servers from them are
> > now HP Proliants. (Proliant was the Compaq line)
> 
> Are they as good as their HP and Compaq predecessors?

We recently had a Proliant DL380 for testing, seemed like solid
hardware, literally, the server management CD for preparing the system
for different flavors of OSes just worked as it was supposed to, neat
integrated systems management solutions. Fine hardware from what I
could tell in the little time I had with it and OEM solutions that
seemed actually usefull.

> > The Netservers and Proliants in general never had touble with FreeBSD.
> > Considering they certified them with Solaris/Netware/etc. they had to
> > be pretty standard.
> 
> Compaq Proliants had a lot of weird stuff running on the server, as I
> recall.  As long as you stuck to the OEM versions it ran fine, but if
> you tried to wipe the machine and install a vanilla OS, things went
> wrong.

The usual (old) Compaq problems reside in the system partion (or
rather lack thereof) and for the Desktops in the less than mediocre
BIOS. For the older PL servers a server management boot CD is usually
all you need to get whatever you want running, for the Desktops it
usually involves hunting down some firmware upgrades and boot disks to
restore the system partition, nothing out of the ordinary.

My FreeBSD box runs on a Deskpro EP 400 desktop coupled with a
SMART2/SL RAID controller ripped out of a PL1600 - you can love or
hate compaq, but their hardware was rock-solid.
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Re: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-14 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

> Generally the MO in the past has been to use the el-cheapo-ist components
> possible, then when the OEM vendors discover some hardware bug or other
> shortfall, they have Microsoft help them to write around the problems
> with various patches, which are included in the OEM version of Windows.
>
> While this has (mostly) gone away for desktop systems, it is still going
> on fiercely with laptops.

One reason why I've always hated laptops.

> First of all HP purchased Compaq a while ago, and when the sale was
> completed they dumped the Netserver line, servers from them are
> now HP Proliants. (Proliant was the Compaq line)

Are they as good as their HP and Compaq predecessors?

> The Netservers and Proliants in general never had touble with FreeBSD.
> Considering they certified them with Solaris/Netware/etc. they had to
> be pretty standard.

Compaq Proliants had a lot of weird stuff running on the server, as I
recall.  As long as you stuck to the OEM versions it ran fine, but if
you tried to wipe the machine and install a vanilla OS, things went
wrong.

> Fine advice for low-end servers and desktops.  Terrible for high-end
> servers unless you really, really know what your doing, and you
> understand that your total cost will be more than if you just buy
> a turnkey server from someone.  And rather impossible for laptops.

Impossible for laptops, yes.  I assume anyone who needs a really
high-end server is going to know a lot about what he is doing, anyway
(much more so than the average user of a really high-end desktop).

Of course, if you can find a high-end server that meets your
requirements, there's no need to build one yourself.  I'd still prefer
that it be delivered without any OS, though, just to avoid the OEM
tweaking.

It's one thing to optimize server hardware and software for server use;
I'm all in favor of that.  But I think it should always be done with
off-the-shelf products that you can buy anywhere, otherwise you risk
being the captive of a specific vendor or vendors.  For every advantage
you might get from OEM tweaks, there is likely to be a corresponding
disadvantage.

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RE: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
> Atkielski
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:28 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.
>
>
> bsdnooby writes:
>
> > When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new HP Pavilion laptop turns
> > itself off.
>
> While it's rather late for me to make this observation, I find that
> computers from big-name vendors tend to show a great deal of
> interdependence between the pre-installed OS and the hardware.  The
> vendors often design the systems around the assumption that the
> pre-installed OS (normally Windows) will be the one and only OS on the
> machine.  There may be tweaks in the OEM installation of the OS that
> accommodate tweaks in the hardware, or vice versa.
>

Generally the MO in the past has been to use the el-cheapo-ist components
possible, then when the OEM vendors discover some hardware bug or other
shortfall, they have Microsoft help them to write around the problems
with various patches, which are included in the OEM version of Windows.

While this has (mostly) gone away for desktop systems, it is still going
on fiercely with laptops.

>
> I've seen server machines afflicted in the same way.  Compaq has long
> had a habit of messing around with this sort of thing, and
> unfortunately
> HP often makes similar mistakes.
>
> High-end HP machines even have custom motherboards and a custom BIOS
> (both created by HP for HP and with a specific OS in mind), although I
> don't think the Pavilion is one of these machines.
>

First of all HP purchased Compaq a while ago, and when the sale was
completed
they dumped the Netserver line, servers from them are now HP Proliants.
(Proliant was the Compaq line)  The Netservers and Proliants in general
never had touble with FreeBSD.  Considering they certified them with
Solaris/Netware/etc. they had to be pretty standard.

Secondly, desktop systems from both vendors always sucked in this regard.
Compaq even had the audacity one time to modify the Adaptec microcode
for the AHA2740 scsi card for the Professional workstation line.

>
> Ideally, then, for something other than the pre-installed OS (such as
> FreeBSD), you're probably better off buying an off-brand PC made from
> off-the-shelf components, or building your own machine yourself.

Fine advice for low-end servers and desktops.  Terrible for high-end
servers unless you really, really know what your doing, and you
understand that your total cost will be more than if you just buy
a turnkey server from someone.  And rather impossible for laptops.

Ted

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Re: Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
bsdnooby writes:

> When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new HP Pavilion laptop turns
> itself off.

While it's rather late for me to make this observation, I find that
computers from big-name vendors tend to show a great deal of
interdependence between the pre-installed OS and the hardware.  The
vendors often design the systems around the assumption that the
pre-installed OS (normally Windows) will be the one and only OS on the
machine.  There may be tweaks in the OEM installation of the OS that
accommodate tweaks in the hardware, or vice versa.

Because of this, it can be very problematic to wipe the disk on such a
machine and install a new one.  It should always be possible, but the
amount of effort required to get it working may sometimes be
substantial.

I've seen server machines afflicted in the same way.  Compaq has long
had a habit of messing around with this sort of thing, and unfortunately
HP often makes similar mistakes.

High-end HP machines even have custom motherboards and a custom BIOS
(both created by HP for HP and with a specific OS in mind), although I
don't think the Pavilion is one of these machines.

Worse yet, some BIOS show the same tendency, although at least in that
case you can usually enter the BIOS at boot and undo whatever the
defaults are set for Windows.

Ideally, then, for something other than the pre-installed OS (such as
FreeBSD), you're probably better off buying an off-brand PC made from
off-the-shelf components, or building your own machine yourself.  This
is what I did for my server, and I was pleasantly surprised when it
booted up instantly into FreeBSD as soon as I installed my existing disk
drive from the old server (although I reinstalled the OS, anyway, in
order to make sure it corresponded exactly to the new hardware
configuration).

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Choosing to install turns off laptop. HD is untouched.

2005-02-13 Thread bsdnooby
Hi,
When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new HP Pavilion laptop turns 
itself off.  It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies.  
There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a 
kernel.  I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help.  I 
believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x.

The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB 
HD, 15.4" Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN.  I purchased it from Best Buy.

Under Windows, it appears Hyper-Threading is turned on, and I have not 
found a way to turn it off inside the CMOS.

The machine runs Windows XP Pro fine, but I am trying to switch to 
FreeBSD on all my boxen.  I was really surprised to find this one 
abruptly shutdown when trying to do the install.  It turns off before 
the install really starts, so I do not have much information to solve 
this problem.  The HD is never touched.

Any suggestions?
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Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-02-10 Thread Donna Memran
i have one and its been great except that it came with macafee virus protector 
which was horrible. it made my laptop act up but as soon as i got rid of it 
everything was perfect. i got it in december. its got a lovely screen and the 
mouse and keyboard are excellent. i looked around in my class and 3 ppl had the 
same laptop and they seemed pretty happy with it. also, the wireless internet 
has been fine from the begining. i dont know if u have specific questions about 
it but if u do let me know. 

take care, 
donna
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Re: xf86config for Toshiba satellite pro laptop

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Oliver Fuchs wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Riaan de Klerk wrote:
> 
> > hi there i am stuck i have a older auwa laptop and cant find the s3 savage
> > 86c270 video driver for it.
> > could you be as kind as to assist me in finding it.
> > 
> > Kind regards.
> 
> Using FreeBSD 5.3 (?) depending on what you want to use try:
> 
> Xorg -configure
> Xorg -config xorg.conf.new
> cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> 
> or
> 
> XFree86 -configure
> XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new
> cp XF86Config.new /etc/X11/XF86Config
> 
> The s3 savage video driver is supported.

The main part in the config file should look like this:

Section "Device"

### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel"   # []
#Option "HWCursor"  # []
#Option "SWCursor"  # []
#Option "ShadowFB"  # []
#Option "Rotate"# []
#Option "UseBIOS"   # []
#Option "LCDClock"  # 
#Option "ShadowStatus"  # []
#Option "CrtOnly"   # []
#Option "TvOn"  # []
#Option "PAL"   # []
#Option "ForceInit" # []
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "savage"
VendorName  "S3 Inc."
BoardName   "86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Oliver

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Re: xf86config for Toshiba satellite pro laptop

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Riaan de Klerk wrote:

> hi there i am stuck i have a older auwa laptop and cant find the s3 savage
> 86c270 video driver for it.
> could you be as kind as to assist me in finding it.
> 
> Kind regards.

Using FreeBSD 5.3 (?) depending on what you want to use try:

Xorg -configure
Xorg -config xorg.conf.new
cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

or

XFree86 -configure
XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new
cp XF86Config.new /etc/X11/XF86Config

The s3 savage video driver is supported.

Oliver
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xf86config for Toshiba satellite pro laptop

2005-01-24 Thread Riaan de Klerk
hi there i am stuck i have a older auwa laptop and cant find the s3 savage
86c270 video driver for it.
could you be as kind as to assist me in finding it.

Kind regards.

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Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop

2005-01-16 Thread John
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:36:41PM +, Mick Walker wrote:
> Hi all, 
> I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it
> is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0.
> However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions
> in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access
> point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all.
> Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working?
> If you need any other data, I would be happy to help.

You need to issue a command like
ifconfig wi0 ssid "whatever it is" wepmode on wepkey 0xsomehexstring
then wait about 15 seconds (the docs say 5, but that's too short
in my experience)
and then
dhcpclient wi0
unless you are hardcoding the IP address, in which case, include that
on the ifconig line with "inet oct1.oct2.oct3.oct4 netmask oct5.oct6.oct7.oct8"
in addition to the other parameters above.

I don't know how to use Wep pass phrases, 'cause I don't use them.
I think the pass phrases just provides data to munge to generate
the keys.

I use it - I love it - I'll be glad to help any way I can.
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Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop

2005-01-16 Thread Eric F Crist
On Jan 16, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Mick Walker wrote:
Hi all,
I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it
is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0.
However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions
in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access
point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all.
Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working?
If you need any other data, I would be happy to help.
Thanks
Mick
For example, try something similar to this:
ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.20 netmask 0xff00 ssid my_net wepmode 
on wepkey 0x8736639624

For more information, see man 4 wi
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Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop

2005-01-16 Thread Chris
Mick Walker wrote:
Hi all, 
I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it
is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0.
However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions
in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access
point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all.
Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working?
If you need any other data, I would be happy to help.

Thanks
Mick
Mick,
	Try something like this in /etc/rc.conf
ifconfig_wi0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.xxx ssid SOMESSID 
wepmode on wepkey 0xXX

Where SOMESSIS is the name of your WAP and
where the 0xXX is the wep key (128 in this case)
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Set up of Wireless on laptop

2005-01-16 Thread Mick Walker
Hi all, 
I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it
is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0.
However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions
in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access
point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all.
Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working?
If you need any other data, I would be happy to help.

Thanks
Mick

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Re: switching key mappings on a laptop (function and ctrl)

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
Joe Schmoe wrote:
I have a new laptop that has the FN (function) key in
the very lower left, and the CTRL key one key to the
right of it ...
but I like the CTRL key to be in the far lower left
...
Is it possible to switch the function of these two
keys (not just in X, but in the console, virtual
terminals, etc.)
Yes, this is certainly possible.  In fact, there are two separate 
mechanisms for doing this -- one for use under X-win, the other for use 
under the console.

Under X, see xmodmap(1) and the sections in X(7) on keyboards, and these 
other man pages:

% man -k xkb
setxkbmap(1) - set the keyboard using the X Keyboard 
Extension
xkbcomp(1)   - compile XKB keyboard description
xkbevd(1)- XKB event daemon
xkbprint(1)  - print an XKB keyboard description

For modifying the console see kdbcontrol(1), kbdmap(1), kbdmap(5) -- the 
keymap files in /usr/share/syscons/keymaps are pretty easy to understand 
and create customised versions of.  See also the allscreens_kbdflags 
variable in /etc/defaults/rc.conf for how to get your changes to happen 
automatically on reboot.

Cheers,
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switching key mappings on a laptop (function and ctrl)

2005-01-10 Thread Joe Schmoe
I have a new laptop that has the FN (function) key in
the very lower left, and the CTRL key one key to the
right of it ...

but I like the CTRL key to be in the far lower left
...

Is it possible to switch the function of these two
keys (not just in X, but in the console, virtual
terminals, etc.)

thanks.



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laptop won't boot past 2.1x

2005-01-09 Thread Kris Maglione
I have a laptop that I originally installed 5.2.1 on. When 5.3 came out, 
I installed it immediately, only to find that the boot hung at detecting 
my ATA cd-rw/dvd drive. Verbose mode stops at:
GEOM: Configure ad0s1 start ... length ... end ...
GEOM: Configure ad0s2[a-f] start ... length ... end ...

(Sorry, there's no serial port on the laptop. I can type it out by hand 
if need be, though.)

With the latest stable and atapicam/pass/cd built in, it ends with lines 
similar to:
(probe[0-5]:...) error 22
(probe[0-5]:...) Unretryable error

Otherwise, it ends with the same GEOM: Configure lines
I have tried the latest HEAD as a FreesBIE disk and have gotten the same 
results. A FreesBIE -CURRENT from around the time of the 5.2.1 release 
works, initializing pass0 right after the error22 lines.

Any suggestions on the problem or how to clarify it?


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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread Eric Schuele
Tom Vilot wrote:
Eric Schuele wrote:
I purchased mine from:
   http://www.pcdgloabl.com
Which as luck would have it is within a mile of my office.  So I just 
drove over there.

Terrific.
1. Mis-type of the url: it is actually http://www.pcdglobal.com  :)
Yes.. thanks for correcting.
2. Which model do you have? The Mini-PCI 802.11b/g AR5004?
I purchased the 802.11a/b/g AR5004:5213+5112.  I have not been able to 
test the 802.11a... but b/g work just fine.  For whatever reason 
(someone may be able to answer) the card is detected as 5212a/b/g by 
ath.  Works fine so I'm happy.

ath0:  mem 0xfafe-0xfafe irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2
ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 5ghz radio 3.6
ath0: Ethernet address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 
24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps

The prices I was quoted when I purchased:
Cost for the modules are:
Part Number  Description  Qty   Price   

T60H835.00   802.11a/b/g Mini - PCI Module  1 - 9 pcs
$75.00  
(Atheros:AR5213+AR5112) 40 pcs   $55.00 
T60H786.00   802.11b/g Mini - PCI Module1 - 9 pcs
$65.00  
(Atheros:AR5213+AR2112) 40 pcs   $45.00
They (Chris Bartlett) were nice enough to give me the 40pc price for a 
single.

DO NOTE:  They told me they do not do returns... also.. there was no 
packing.  They reached into a closed with thousands of them... wrapped 
the miniPCI in bubble wrap and handed it to me.  So there may be no 
docs/support or anything.  They apparently sell to OEM.  I didn't need 
anything but the card... so it didn't bother me.

HTH
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  7 January 2005 at  9:46:23 +1100, John Birrell wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:52:43PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
>> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
>> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
>> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
>> wireless card to work?
>
> I have an 1150 and it works great with RELENG_5 for me. I don't have the
> version with the internal wireless though. I use the bfe (Broadcom BCM4401)
> ethernet. No problems with that.

Thanks for the info.

> If you get one, go straight to Dell's support site and get the
> latest bios.  I had to do that before X would work. There have been
> a few bios updates and my 1150 was shipped with an out-dated bios
> which I thought lacked attention to detail by Dell when they build
> the machines to order in Malaysia.

Interesting.  I had a similar problem with my 5150 18 months ago (see
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jul2003.html#25 for details).  Is this
what you saw?

> Once thing I really like about it is being able to set the bios to
> boot via the ethernet port. That makes net-booting FreeBSD for
> driver development a breeze.

That sounds useful, indeed.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread John Birrell
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:52:43PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
> wireless card to work?

I have an 1150 and it works great with RELENG_5 for me. I don't have the
version with the internal wireless though. I use the bfe (Broadcom BCM4401)
ethernet. No problems with that.

If you get one, go straight to Dell's support site and get the latest bios.
I had to do that before X would work. There have been a few bios updates and
my 1150 was shipped with an out-dated bios which I thought lacked attention
to detail by Dell when they build the machines to order in Malaysia.

I got a CD R/W and DVD R and that works fine. USB2.0 ports function well
as does sound. Whenever I watch videos, I choose to use the 1150 for that.

Obviously the winmodem doesn't work with FreeBSD. That's the only device
that isn't recognised during boot.

Once thing I really like about it is being able to set the bios to boot
via the ethernet port. That makes net-booting FreeBSD for driver development
a breeze.

I run RELENG_5 installed on the hard disk and net-boot to CURRENT. If I
remember correctly, it took me about 10 minutes to get XP off it and FreeBSD
on.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-06 Thread Tom Vilot
Eric Schuele wrote:
I purchased mine from:
   http://www.pcdgloabl.com
Which as luck would have it is within a mile of my office.  So I just 
drove over there.

Terrific.
1. Mis-type of the url: it is actually http://www.pcdglobal.com  :)
2. Which model do you have? The Mini-PCI 802.11b/g AR5004?
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Eric Schuele
Tom Vilot wrote:
Eric Schuele wrote:
On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card 
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if 
your interested. 

I might be interested in one of those. I have a Dell Inspiron 8200.
I purchased mine from:
   http://www.pcdgloabl.com
Which as luck would have it is within a mile of my office.  So I just 
drove over there.

DO NOTE: They have no return policy, as they prefer to cater to OEMs. 
But I've been very happy with mine.


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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Eric Schuele
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 11:20:31 -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
wireless card to work?
My point is... you may have to use the windows drivers with a wrapper to
get it to work. 

Yes, that was my suspicion as well, and one of the reasons for my
question.

On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if
your interested.

Thanks, but no.  I have wireless cards here.  I was wondering about
the onboard card.
I was referring to the internal onboard (miniPCI) card.  You could 
purchase the laptop without one (if that's an option) and then drop in 
your own.  I chose an Atheros based one... but there are Prism based 
ones floating around as well.


So you might dig around and try to find out positively whose card
those miniPCI devices are.

That's what I'm trying to do, and also (if possible) get more details
about how to get them running.
I can give you very specific instruction on how I got the 1300 
(Broadcom) working with 5.2.1... but I don't think thats what your after.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Tom Vilot
Eric Schuele wrote:
On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card 
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if 
your interested. 

I might be interested in one of those. I have a Dell Inspiron 8200.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 11:20:31 -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
>> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
>> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
>> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
>> wireless card to work?
>
> My point is... you may have to use the windows drivers with a wrapper to
> get it to work. 

Yes, that was my suspicion as well, and one of the reasons for my
question.

> On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card
> which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if
> your interested.

Thanks, but no.  I have wireless cards here.  I was wondering about
the onboard card.

> So you might dig around and try to find out positively whose card
> those miniPCI devices are.

That's what I'm trying to do, and also (if possible) get more details
about how to get them running.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]

On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 19:24:27 +0100, Kiffin Gish wrote:
> On  Wednesday, January 05, 2005 07:23, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
>> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
>> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
>> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
>> wireless card to work?
>
> I've been the happy owner of a Dell Inspiron 8200 with a TrueMobile
> wireless card.

I suppose it's the out of sequence reply that made you miss:

>> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me 

> Dual boot Windows/XP and FreeBSD 5.3, and so far never had any major
>  issues.
>
> Hope this helps...

Not really.  As I said, I have other Dell laptops, and on the whole
I'm happy.  I'm looking for input on the 1150.  Thanks anyway.

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RE: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Kiffin Gish
I've been the happy owner of a Dell Inspiron 8200 with a TrueMobile wireless
card.

Dual boot Windows/XP and FreeBSD 5.3, and so far never had any major issues.

Hope this helps...

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> Subject: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?
> 
> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
> wireless card to work?
> 
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Eric Schuele
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
wireless card to work?
Greg
FWIW
I think the 1150 ships with either a truemobile 1350 or 1450 (your 
choice).  It's my understanding (from a quick google) that those are 
still broadcom devices.  I had a Truemobile 1300 (Broadcom), and had to 
use NDISulator to get it running.  That was with 5.2.1.  Haven't looked 
into it much but I think NDIS is built into the kernel now??  Not sure.

My point is... you may have to use the windows drivers with a wrapper to 
get it to work.  It worked well... but I was running from windows to 
begin with.

On the other hand... I've switched to an Atheros based miniPCI card 
which works quite well with 'device ath'. I can give you a link if your 
interested.

So you might dig around and try to find out positively whose card those 
miniPCI devices are.

HTH
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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  5 January 2005 at 11:19:16 +, Sarunas Vancevicius wrote:
> On 16:52, Wed 05 Jan 05, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
>> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
>> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
>> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
>> wireless card to work?
>
> A college friend has one of these, I don't know much about it,
> except that he is running Fedora Core 3 and had no luck trying to
> get internal wireless card working, so he had to get a PCMCIA
> wireless card.

Thanks.

> If thats any helpful to you.

Well, Fedora Core 3 is Linux.  As it happens, at work I've just
installed it too.  I don't think a failure there has much relevance to
FreeBSD.  But thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-05 Thread Sarunas Vancevicius
On 16:52, Wed 05 Jan 05, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
> of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
> Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
> good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
> wireless card to work?
> 
> Greg

Hey Greg,

A college friend has one of these, I don't know much about it,
except that he is running Fedora Core 3 and had no luck trying to
get internal wireless card working, so he had to get a PCMCIA
wireless card.

If thats any helpful to you.

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Experience with Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop?

2005-01-04 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
I'm thinking of buying a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.  I have a number
of Dells, and on the whole I'm happy, but I've had "issues" before.
Can anybody who has one of these machines (1150 only, please) tell me
good or bad things about it?  Have you been able to get the internal
wireless card to work?

Greg
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Re: Help on Compaq Laptop Presario 3000 AMD Athlon 64

2005-01-04 Thread Kangaroo
Hello,
I also try freebsd-5.21 i386 still have the same problem.
I boot openBSD-i386 , the system freezed. Boot
openBSD-AMD64 OK but openBSD does not support nVIDIA
GeFORCE.xx so
No graphic display at all ..
It seems HP-compag presario R3240CA model ( athlon 64 AMD
) is not a good disigned ...
I like FreeBSD it's easier to install than OpenDSD or
NetBSD. It seems HP works well on Sesu linux from Novell.
Do you have any ideas what I need to make the system
works?
Thanks
Khai Dao
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Re: Help on Compaq Laptop Presario 3000 AMD Athlon 64 -Nvida-gforce3 chipset

2005-01-03 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Kangaroo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need help on instaling freebsd 5.3 AMD64 on my lap top.
> 
> When I boot from cd rom, The system boot up to menu screen
> show 1...7 where 2 eg. boot with disable ACPI...
> My system automatically shutdown when I press any key from
> 1 or 7 or just press enter. I mean it SHUTDOWN my machine.

There is a possibility that the machine contains various components
which are not fully supported in FreeBSD/amd64. What happens if you try
booting FreeBSD/i386 instead? 

I know this may not be the most satisfying suggestion, but if it's that
or not getting the machine to boot at all, well, there it is. I'd
venture a guess that whichever software came with the machine originally
is not quite 64 bit clean either.

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Help on Compaq Laptop Presario 3000 AMD Athlon 64 -Nvida-gforce3 chipset

2005-01-02 Thread Kangaroo
I need help on instaling freebsd 5.3 AMD64 on my lap top.

When I boot from cd rom, The system boot up to menu screen
show 1...7 where 2 eg. boot with disable ACPI...
My system automatically shutdown when I press any key from
1 or 7 or just press enter. I mean it SHUTDOWN my machine.
What is wrong... 
I have follow the instruction from the web I need to
disbale some IO.. from BIOS. But my bios has no option to
do that. Is any one has the same LAPTOP I have? 

HELP!!!
Thanks
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Help w/ 3com net card on laptop

2004-12-31 Thread Dustin
I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 5.3 on an extra laptop I have over FTP, but I 
have just one problem: I cannot get the card to work.

It's a 3com 3c575TX Fast Ehterlink XL Cardbus PC Card , which from here:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3...6.html#ETHERNET 
<http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware-i386.html#ETHERNET> 

..looks like FreeBSD should support it.

The error goes something like this:

xl0: 3com 3c575TX Fast Etherlink XL Port 0x1000-0x103f IRQ5 at device 0.0 on 
cardbus 0
xl0: couldn't map ports/memory
device-attach: xl0 attach Returned 6
cbb0: cardbus card activation failed

I've messed w/ the settings in the BIOS, ACPI is off, seems like the only way 
to turn off PnP is to change the OS - this BIOS is goofy. I disabled the COM 
and LPT ports to see if that would free up some IRQ's but no difference.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
D
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Toshiba laptop

2004-12-29 Thread Josh Ockert
I would first like to report (as I'm sure many others have done) the
inability to boot without going to the loader command prompt and
setting hw.pci.enable_io_modes=0

Secondly, loading my sound module kills the system (trap 12).

This is the exact text I copied from the screen:
#kldload snd_ich.ko
pcm0:  at device 31.5 on pci0

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

fault virtual address  = 0x5
fault code= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer= 0x8:0xc04f3d20
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xcbca7930
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xcbca7930
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
  = DPL 0, pres 1, de/32 1, gran 1
processor eflags  = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0
current process   = 482 (kldload)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault




I have attached my kernel configuration file, my dmesg, and the
results of pciconf -l -v

>From the looks of it, since the stack and frame pointers are the same,
it would appear it's trying to call another function it cannot find
(page not present) -- at least if x86 works like I seem to remember
SPARC working. I'm thinking that perhaps kldload actually fails to
load the driver, and then tries to call a function in it anyway? I
don't know.

I'm going to continue fiddling with it. Also posting to -questions in
case I missed something stupid.

Please CC me as I'm not part of either mailing list


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Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed

2004-12-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Friday, December 24, 2004 7:56 PM -0600 Scott Bennett 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I did.  The only Dell card listed is the Dell TrueMobile 1150, which
I think is a fairly old card that Dell no longer sells.  Dell's recent
catalogues list only the Intel PRO Wireless 2100 and 2200, the Dell
Wireless 1350 and 1450, and the Dell TrueMobile 300 Bluetooth.  The Dell
Wireless 1450, which is the card I'm trying to get to work, is made by
Broadcom, and I think Broadcom makes the chips on it as well.  The wi
driver is for a different manufacturer's chip set, so my guess is that
the wi driver is not applicable to the Dell Wireless 1450.

I hate to say this, but I don't think your card is supported.  It's not 
listed in the HCL, even for 5.3, and it doesn't even look like there are 
linux drivers for it yet.
On the other hand, you may just be able to use it with the ndisulator. 
That's a wrapper around a windows native driver for the card that lets 
you turn it into a FreeBSD loadable kernel object.  You should be 
running 5.3-RELEASE or later for best results.

See ndiscvt(8) and this message (you can ignore all the stuff about 
anon-cvs and building the supporting applications -- the NDIS stuff is 
standard in 5.3, and all you need to do is run ndiscvt and build your 
if_ndis module)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-August/056835.html
Also, this site is very useful if you're trying to get a laptop working 
under FreeBSD:

http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed

2004-12-27 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, December 24, 2004 7:56 PM -0600 Scott Bennett 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I did.  The only Dell card listed is the Dell TrueMobile 1150, which
I think is a fairly old card that Dell no longer sells.  Dell's recent
catalogues list only the Intel PRO Wireless 2100 and 2200, the Dell
Wireless 1350 and 1450, and the Dell TrueMobile 300 Bluetooth.  The Dell
Wireless 1450, which is the card I'm trying to get to work, is made by
Broadcom, and I think Broadcom makes the chips on it as well.  The wi
driver is for a different manufacturer's chip set, so my guess is that
the wi driver is not applicable to the Dell Wireless 1450.

I hate to say this, but I don't think your card is supported.  It's not 
listed in the HCL, even for 5.3, and it doesn't even look like there are 
linux drivers for it yet.

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Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed

2004-12-24 Thread Scott Bennett
 Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Fri Dec 24 16:25:40 2004:

>--On Friday, December 24, 2004 1:54 PM -0600 Scott Bennett 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450
>> Dual- Band card for laptops.  If anyone can point me in the right
>> direction, please let me know.
>
>It's probably the wi driver, which should be in the default build of 
>"modern" FreeBSD.

 I don't think so, or at least it isn't obvious that that would be the
right one.
>
>Look at man wi(4) and man wicontrol(8).

 I did.  The only Dell card listed is the Dell TrueMobile 1150, which
I think is a fairly old card that Dell no longer sells.  Dell's recent
catalogues list only the Intel PRO Wireless 2100 and 2200, the Dell Wireless
1350 and 1450, and the Dell TrueMobile 300 Bluetooth.  The Dell Wireless 1450,
which is the card I'm trying to get to work, is made by Broadcom, and I think
Broadcom makes the chips on it as well.  The wi driver is for a different
manufacturer's chip set, so my guess is that the wi driver is not applicable
to the Dell Wireless 1450.
>
>What do you see when you type "% wicontrol -i wi0 -o"?
>
wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Device not configured


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Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed

2004-12-24 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, December 24, 2004 1:54 PM -0600 Scott Bennett 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450
Dual- Band card for laptops.  If anyone can point me in the right
direction, please let me know.
It's probably the wi driver, which should be in the default build of 
"modern" FreeBSD.

Look at man wi(4) and man wicontrol(8).
What do you see when you type "% wicontrol -i wi0 -o"?
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Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed

2004-12-24 Thread Scott Bennett
 I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 Dual-
Band card for laptops.  If anyone can point me in the right direction, please
let me know.
 Thanks in advance!


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Re: problem with X in a laptop

2004-12-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work, 
> so i used a generic VGA.
> Now im using FreeBSD 5.3 with Xorg, but before i was using 
> debian with XF86 and i had the same problem, but i fixed it 
> startingthe X server with the "-dpi 100" but this now doesnt 
> work.

You could always try XFree86 again; that certainly worked with the
SiliconMotion video chip on my old HP laptop.
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Re: problem with X in a laptop

2004-12-22 Thread Frank Laszlo

the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work, 
so i used a generic VGA.

 

I gave up on trying to get this driver working. After tons of patches 
and other suggestions, It proved to be more trouble than it was worth. 
Time to get a new laptop I think. Sorry I cant be more helpful

Regards,
   Frank Laszlo
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problem with X in a laptop

2004-12-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi,

im having problems configuring the X window system in a IBM
thinkpad laptop.
The servers starts ok, but the problem is that it doesnt fit the
full screen. i dont know if you undrestand me, because my
english is not very good.
im gonna explain it with a picture:

 | |  <=  screen of my laptop
 |   |---|  |
 |   | |  |
 |   | <== size of the X's screen
 |   |---|  |
 |-|


the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work,
so i used a generic VGA.
Now im using FreeBSD 5.3 with Xorg, but before i was using
debian with XF86 and i had the same problem, but i fixed it
startingthe X server with the "-dpi 100" but this now doesnt
work.
i also have used the xvfb server, but with this server doesnt
work.

any idea is welcome.
thanks in advance.

jcazor.




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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread W. D.
How 'bout this one?

http://news.google.com/news?q=walmart+laptop

Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/
$8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/

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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
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hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
is available to purchase???

 

The "FreeBSD Laptop Compatability List" at:
   http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/
will give you some information from about 450
other FreeBSD + laptop users.
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Joe Altman
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:09AM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
> > openbsd that is available to purchase???
> 
> I was unable to get a Compaq's pccard working under FreeBSD 5.2.1 using 
> either the new or old pccard systems.  I had no problems on a Dell 
> using FreeBSD 4.10 or 5.3.

Not following up to Andrew, in particular, but to point out the "...a
Dell (or Gateway or HP or whatever)..." is not very exact; and it may
be helpful to indicate a model and /or number for any recommendation.

For instance: 

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

shows several possible notebooks. Let's take this one:

Inspiron 1150, with various features, including:

Memory 256MB Shared DDR SDRAM, 1 Dimm which means that video fills its
needs from system memory. Now, the issue here is that for lower
end laptops that use shared memory and the Intel integrated graphics
chip with a bios lock on memory allocation, you may end up w/o the
ability to display in 1024x768 in X.

So it may pay for anyone to check to see that the available memory is
sufficient to provide a minimum comfortable resolution.

Another example:

http://products.gateway.com/products/GConfig/prodDetails.asp?system_id=m275x&seg=hm

Midway down, you'll see this:

Integrated Intel. Extreme Graphics 2

What does that mean, WRT resolution in X? I can't find out, easily
(it's a JavaScript thing). It is likely that it has enough memory for
1024x768 or even a finer resolution; but it would be a good idea to
make sure, IMO. In short, I would recommend that you get as much
detail from the vendor as you can; and don't assume that because it is
a modern machine and some models in a brand do work very well with
FreeBSD that any given model will work well with FreeBSD.
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 20 December 2004 06:46 am, Tom Vilot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] extolled:
> > > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
> > > openbsd that is available to purchase???
>
> I have FreeBSD 5.3 running beautifully on a Dell Inspiron 8200.

I have FreeBSD 5.3 running on a Dell Inspiron 3500. IIRC there weren't 
any problems with the install, but I had to compile in support for my 
cardbus and ethernet. Since it's just a 300MHz with 128MB, I didn't 
install xorg at all, but I know from previous experimentation that it 
will run a smaller wm or desktop alright (xfce4 or smaller), but KDE or 
Gnome run very slow. I don't really need a gui desktop on it, and it's 
(generally) quite fast without it. I am tinkering at getting the sound 
running, but it's not a priority. Haven't yet tried USB, but again it's 
not a priority. It works the way it is for my needs. You can probably 
find a used Dell in this model range for very cheap. I wouldn't go 
lower than the 3500, though, as lower than a 300MHz cpu might be 
pushing it as far as what you need.

As someone else recommended, IBM Thinkpads are quite nice and will 
usually work, although a bit pricey. If you go that route, try to find 
a good used one.

- jt
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Vilot
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] extolled:
> > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd 
> > that 
> > is available to purchase???

I have FreeBSD 5.3 running beautifully on a Dell Inspiron 8200.
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 20 December 2004 04:54 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
> > openbsd that is available to purchase???

I just read about the website below at linuxtoday.com.  The laptops are 
sold with Linspire by default (no Windows tax); but FreeBSD is one of 
the (ahem) "other linux distros" available.

http://www.sub300.com/

I know nothing else about them; so I can neither recommend nor 
discourage doing business with them.

Best of luck,

Andrew
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