Re: remote x session

2007-12-31 Thread Frank Staals

Jonathan Horne wrote:
well, the part i didnt mention before, was the method behind the 
madness. its
actually a jail-host, with 3 jails running. my intention, is to keep the 
latest of kde, gnome, and xfce built on each, and just remotely attach to (or 
forward) its x session from my main workstation.  i vision it basically 
working just like when i sit down to my workstation, and type 'startx'.


cheers,
  
Hmmm well may I ask why you want such a setup ? The only advantages I 
can see are to keep your main-workstation free of the builds for your 
WMs and the fact that your main system remains somewhat cleaner. But I 
doubt it will weigh up against the time-costs for your X11 forwarding ? 
Or am I missing something ?


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Re: remote x session

2007-12-30 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Thursday 27 December 2007 02:35:05 am Steve Franks wrote:
 Perhaps I misunderstand, but I use x11vnc on the 'server' and
 vncviewer or tightvnc on the 'client'.  There are several pages to
 google on tunneling it thru ssh, and it's much better with latency
 than sending x iteslf over ssh, I'm told.  If you start x11vnc with no
 options, it will export the current session/desktop, but there is a
 switch to have it spawn a new x session also.  All the other vnc ports
 only spawn new sessions, and I usually use it to help my wife fix
 problems when I'm away at the office ;)

 Best,
 Steve

well ultimately, im looking for something that i can operate a headless server 
with.  the server itself wouldnt be pre-logged into any x session (be it kde, 
gnome, xfce or whatever), so thats why im trying to get its x session into a 
window of my local desktop.

i need to read up on x11vnc, and if it would do that, then i would open to 
looking at that to fill my need.

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Re: remote x session

2007-12-30 Thread Darren Spruell
On Dec 30, 2007 7:16 PM, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 27 December 2007 02:35:05 am Steve Franks wrote:
  Perhaps I misunderstand, but I use x11vnc on the 'server' and
  vncviewer or tightvnc on the 'client'.  There are several pages to
  google on tunneling it thru ssh, and it's much better with latency
  than sending x iteslf over ssh, I'm told.  If you start x11vnc with no
  options, it will export the current session/desktop, but there is a
  switch to have it spawn a new x session also.  All the other vnc ports
  only spawn new sessions, and I usually use it to help my wife fix
  problems when I'm away at the office ;)
 
  Best,
  Steve

 well ultimately, im looking for something that i can operate a headless server
 with.  the server itself wouldnt be pre-logged into any x session (be it kde,
 gnome, xfce or whatever), so thats why im trying to get its x session into a
 window of my local desktop.

There is the XDMCP option, which allows you to remotely connect to an
X display manager for full, remote display sessions. This isn't
regarded to be a secure solution by most people.

If your remote system is a server, do you have a need for remote
desktop access? If you have one or two X applications on the remote
server, could you just get by with SSH X11 forwarding to access those
applications from your management station's display?

DS
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Re: remote x session

2007-12-30 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Sunday 30 December 2007 09:00:27 pm Darren Spruell wrote:
 There is the XDMCP option, which allows you to remotely connect to an
 X display manager for full, remote display sessions. This isn't
 regarded to be a secure solution by most people.

 If your remote system is a server, do you have a need for remote
 desktop access? If you have one or two X applications on the remote
 server, could you just get by with SSH X11 forwarding to access those
 applications from your management station's display?

 DS

well, the part i didnt mention before, was the method behind the madness.  its 
actually a jail-host, with 3 jails running. my intention, is to keep the 
latest of kde, gnome, and xfce built on each, and just remotely attach to (or 
forward) its x session from my main workstation.  i vision it basically 
working just like when i sit down to my workstation, and type 'startx'.

cheers,
-- 
Jonathan Horne
http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: remote x session

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Franks
Perhaps I misunderstand, but I use x11vnc on the 'server' and
vncviewer or tightvnc on the 'client'.  There are several pages to
google on tunneling it thru ssh, and it's much better with latency
than sending x iteslf over ssh, I'm told.  If you start x11vnc with no
options, it will export the current session/desktop, but there is a
switch to have it spawn a new x session also.  All the other vnc ports
only spawn new sessions, and I usually use it to help my wife fix
problems when I'm away at the office ;)

Best,
Steve

On Dec 24, 2007 9:05 AM, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have been wanting to set up the ability to open an entirely new x session to
 another box, in a window of my currently running session.  xnest is one way
 of doing this, but i was wondering if there are any others (perhaps, a little
 easier to configure and get going) ?

 cheers,
 --
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 http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org
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Re: remote x session

2007-12-26 Thread Roger Olofsson



Jonathan Horne skrev:
i have been wanting to set up the ability to open an entirely new x session to 
another box, in a window of my currently running session.  xnest is one way 
of doing this, but i was wondering if there are any others (perhaps, a little 
easier to configure and get going) ?


cheers,


You might want to look at WDM and Fluxbox. There are alot of other 
window managwers of course but these 2 have small overhead and run very 
nice. Read more at http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/WDM . There are 
some tips in the mailing list archive for these to get you started as well.


Greetings from Sweden
/Roger
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remote x session

2007-12-24 Thread Jonathan Horne
i have been wanting to set up the ability to open an entirely new x session to 
another box, in a window of my currently running session.  xnest is one way 
of doing this, but i was wondering if there are any others (perhaps, a little 
easier to configure and get going) ?

cheers,
-- 
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http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org
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Re: remote x session

2007-12-24 Thread Jeremy Gransden
On 12/24/07, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have been wanting to set up the ability to open an entirely new x
 session to
 another box, in a window of my currently running session.  xnest is one
 way
 of doing this, but i was wondering if there are any others (perhaps, a
 little
 easier to configure and get going) ?

 cheers,
 --
 Jonathan Horne
 http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org
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Can you forward X through ssh? Or is that not what you are looking for?


thanks,
j
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Re: remote x session

2007-12-24 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Monday 24 December 2007 01:11:12 pm Jeremy Gransden wrote:
 On 12/24/07, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i have been wanting to set up the ability to open an entirely new x
  session to
  another box, in a window of my currently running session.  xnest is one
  way
  of doing this, but i was wondering if there are any others (perhaps, a
  little
  easier to configure and get going) ?
 
  cheers,
  --
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  http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Can you forward X through ssh? Or is that not what you are looking for?


 thanks,
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i did finally get ssh to forwared X, but it only worked with 

ssh -Y [host]

im not sure yet why ssh -X doesnt work, but ive not yet finished reading about 
the ins and outs of what security settings im overriding with the -Y.

i was able to start xclock as a test.  but what i would really like to be able 
to accomplish, would be to get the entire 'startx' to work over an ssh 
session, and have it open as another window on my desktop.

cheers,
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Re: remote x session

2007-12-24 Thread Frank Staals

Jonathan Horne wrote:

On Monday 24 December 2007 01:11:12 pm Jeremy Gransden wrote:
  

On 12/24/07, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


i have been wanting to set up the ability to open an entirely new x
session to
another box, in a window of my currently running session.  xnest is one
way
of doing this, but i was wondering if there are any others (perhaps, a
little
easier to configure and get going) ?

cheers,
--
Jonathan Horne
http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Can you forward X through ssh? Or is that not what you are looking for?


thanks,
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i did finally get ssh to forwared X, but it only worked with 


ssh -Y [host]

im not sure yet why ssh -X doesnt work, but ive not yet finished reading about 
the ins and outs of what security settings im overriding with the -Y.


i was able to start xclock as a test.  but what i would really like to be able 
to accomplish, would be to get the entire 'startx' to work over an ssh 
session, and have it open as another window on my desktop.


cheers,
  

Is vnc not an option then ?

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Re: remote X session fonts question

2005-09-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Maarten Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My wifes laptop is too aged to work at an acceptable speed. I have
 converted it to a remote X terminal (over ssh) and that works like a
 charm. Only application that behaves funny is Openoffice.org.1.1.5. For
 some reason the fonts in the menus get too much space around them. Has
 anyone a clue on in which direction I should look? Do I need to setup a
 font server? Do the xorg.conf fonts sections need to be absolutly equal?

An application can only use fonts which the X server knows about.  The
laptop has its own X server, and needs the fonts that you want to
use.  A font server is one way to do that; installing the fonts on the
laptop directly would be another.
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remote X session fonts question

2005-09-19 Thread Maarten Sanders
Hi,

My wifes laptop is too aged to work at an acceptable speed. I have
converted it to a remote X terminal (over ssh) and that works like a
charm. Only application that behaves funny is Openoffice.org.1.1.5. For
some reason the fonts in the menus get too much space around them. Has
anyone a clue on in which direction I should look? Do I need to setup a
font server? Do the xorg.conf fonts sections need to be absolutly equal?
Etc.

Thanks,

Maarten 

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