Re: xorg gfx card: amd64+xvideo+decent 2d performance

2008-09-20 Thread Nash Nipples
 I've been trying to find anything that fits the
 bill. My only
 requirements are:

 * That it works with amd64 (on FreeBSD, obviously).
 * That it supports Xvideo.
 * That it has decent 2D performance.
 * That it works with wide screen resolutions (so I
 guess basically
 modern hardware + modern driver).

 Unfortunately, the 'nv' driver has significant
 performance issues so
 nVidia cards are out. I love what ATI is doing with
 the radeonhd
 driver, but no Xvideo yet.

what i really want to tell u is that a modern x server runs quiet smooth with 
x1650 series. I'm experiencing a little slow down when opening windows but when 
it draws it draws fast. Videos? Well played! it feels like almost the edge 
between the good and the evil. it is not so expensive and i think it should be 
available used, agp thats what u want!

p.s. slow drivers? seriously?



  
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xorg gfx card: amd64+xvideo+decent 2d performance

2008-09-19 Thread Peter Schuller
Hey,

I've been trying to find anything that fits the bill. My only
requirements are:

* That it works with amd64 (on FreeBSD, obviously).
* That it supports Xvideo.
* That it has decent 2D performance.
* That it works with wide screen resolutions (so I guess basically
  modern hardware + modern driver).

Unfortunately, the 'nv' driver has significant performance issues so
nVidia cards are out. I love what ATI is doing with the radeonhd
driver, but no Xvideo yet.

I know Matrox used to be a good bet, but apparantly modern cards
require binary blobs. I hear good things about Intel chipsets, but
then I cannot find any cards that have them (only integrated on
motherboards, which puts too much of a constraint on the choice of
motherboard).

Anyone got any recommendations?

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Re: xorg gfx card: amd64+xvideo+decent 2d performance

2008-09-19 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Peter Schuller wrote:


I've been trying to find anything that fits the bill. My only
requirements are:

* That it works with amd64 (on FreeBSD, obviously).
* That it supports Xvideo.
* That it has decent 2D performance.
* That it works with wide screen resolutions (so I guess basically
 modern hardware + modern driver).

Unfortunately, the 'nv' driver has significant performance issues so
nVidia cards are out. I love what ATI is doing with the radeonhd
driver, but no Xvideo yet.


At present, it looks like at least some R5xx chipsets are supported by 
both radeon and radeonhd.  One of those might be a good compromise.  Or 
you could stick to the earlier chipsets that are only in radeon 
(R3xx/R4xx).  I don't know how current this chart is:


http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature


I know Matrox used to be a good bet, but apparantly modern cards
require binary blobs.


The latest experimental Matrox drivers no longer need a blob.  However, 
Matrox seems to have wandered away from the general-purpose video card 
market.  AGP and PCI cards are available used, PCI-X versions harder to 
find and more expensive, and driver updates are much less likely than a 
more mainstream card.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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