Re: extract iso image

2005-02-23 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:14:25AM +0800, T.F. Cheng wrote:
 hi, I am not sure if I am doing the right thing. I
 want to extract an downloaded isoimage by first
 mounting it. I tried: mount -t iso9660 -o loop
 image.iso /mnt but turns out I don't have
 mount_iso9660 under /sbin, only mount_cd9660. Is there
 any other way to do this? I am running
 freebsd5.3/i386. Thanks!

Linux calls it iso9660, FreeBSD calls is cd9660, same thing.
The freebsd command that does the same thing is as follows:

mount -t cd9660 /dev/`mdconfig -a -t image.iso` /mnt

   
 
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Re: SSH terminal locking up from OS X to FreeBSD

2005-02-23 Thread Doug Hardie
On Feb 22, 2005, at 22:57, Jim Freeze wrote:
* Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-02-22 22:58:17 
-0700]:

Just for giggles, what happens when you try a different encryption
method with the ssl client?  For example,  -c blowfish
Ok, so I tried this, but it still locks up. However, I was
able to do RETURN~C to get a command line and RETURN~^Z to
background the ssh terminal, but I was never able to re-activate
it.
I did manage to log the IP activity through tcp dump, and I discovered
that after the 'lock up', there are no IP messages originating
from the remote machine. Also, the IP blocks are of type FP,
whatever that is. (Hmm, maybe I need to clear out the known hosts
on the remote machine.)
An abbreviated version is below.
The full log file is at:
  http://www.freeze.org/tcpdump3b.log
00:22:59.999439 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: S 
611378943:611378943(0) win 65535 mss 1360,nop,wscale 
0,nop,nop,timestamp 1996513030 0
00:23:00.053942 IP remotemachine.com.ssh  localhost.53245: S 
77400915:77400915(0) ack 611378944 win 57344 mss 1460,nop,wscale 
0,nop,nop,timestamp 1100668230 1996513030
00:23:00.054039 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: . ack 1 
win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996513030 1100668230
00:23:00.331844 IP remotemachine.com.ssh  localhost.53245: P 1:24(23) 
ack 1 win 57964 nop,nop,timestamp 1100668258 1996513030
00:23:04.922358 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: . ack 3512 
win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996513040 1100668711
# Long break - remote terminal stops responding but data is still 
flowing as you can see.
# RETURN
00:34:05.662885 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: P 
1519:1559(40) ack 3512 win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996514361 
1100668711
00:34:07.284836 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: P 
1519:1559(40) ack 3512 win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996514364 
1100668711
00:34:09.285235 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: P 
1519:1559(40) ack 3512 win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996514368 
1100668711
00:34:43.290382 IP localhost.53240  remotemachine.com.ssh: FP 
0:48(48) ack 1 win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996514436 1100663377
# RETURN~?
00:35:09.294870 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: P 
1519:1719(200) ack 3512 win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996514488 
1100668711
00:37:17.308387 IP localhost.53245  remotemachine.com.ssh: FP 
1519:2655(1136) ack 3512 win 65535 nop,nop,timestamp 1996514744 
1100668711
#Closed terminal

The localhost is trying to send the 40 bytes in its buffer.  It is not 
receiving and ACK from remotemachine so it retries until it eventually 
gives up.  The F flag is localhost issuing a FIN to remotemachine to 
drop the TCP connection.   It tries a couple times and then likewise 
gives up.  I would recommend a ktrace on the server  to see if it 
yields any additional information.  My guess is that the sshd process 
has died.  syslog might not be set to catch the error it may be 
generating.  ktrace will show all the syslog calls.

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Re: samba as wins-server

2005-02-23 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:24:28AM +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
 Hi!
 I'm working in an office with several win hosts of all flavours
 (98,2000,eXPerience). Unfortunatly the resolution of computers takes
 sometimes up to half an hour (approx.) until they are accessible after
 booting up.
 In near future I'll have the chance to switch to FreeBSD with
 my box (at least, I hope so). I'll install samba for win access to my
 machine. Reading some documentation I've found out that samba
 can also act as a wins-server. Will this enhance the latency of netbios
 resolution or will it corrupt it?

Do you mean that the resolution of a name to ip address takes a half an
hour or just that machines don't appear on the network for half an hour.
There are two parts to it.  One machine acts as a browse master and
keeps a list of names of all machines in it's workgroup.  There is an
election process that happens to determine who the master is.  When a
machine boots up it needs to alert the master that it exists, but that
can take a while sometimes with windows.  The second part is name to ip
resolution, this has nothing to do with the browse master.  Two type of
name resolution are broadcast and wins.  Wins is like a dns server where
all boxes register their name and ip address with.  Broadcast is more
like arp resolution only name to ip instead of ip to hw address.  Both
both broadcast and wins usually work immediately.  The only downfall to
broadcast is it only works when every computer is on the same subnet.
Most problems with computers showing up is which the browse
master/clients registering, not name resolution.  And even before the
browse master knows about the client, you can still access it by typing
in the name by hand, just not by going to network neighbor hood and
looking for it.

 
 Is there a way to speed up this process with samba,
 am I writing complete nonsense?
 Tell me if this is true.
 
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File permissions

2005-02-23 Thread Gareth Bailey
Hi there,

I need to set permissions on the /www/data-dist directory such that
when samba users create new files in it the ownership of the files
will automatically be set to www.

How might i do this. I've had a look at the chmod and sticky manpages
with no luck.

Thanks,
Gareth
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RE: java applications taking up too much memory

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi Brian,

  First you should ask on the freebsd java mailing list, not here.

  Second, 200MB of ram isn't that big anymore these days for a server,
you might consider your system needs more?  Java isn't know for small
programs.  Java's strength is it's write-once, run-anywhere feature,
and as a result it's going to be much more resource consumptive than
a compiled C program.

  Last, most of this will probably be swapped out, so what you want to
pay attention to in top is the Swap: line.  When your app starts, you
should see swap loaded up - what you should be concerned with is if
you see a lot of in-and-out on the ram allocated, also you might try
running

systat -vmstat

you will get a better idea of what your system is doing that way
rather than just looking at top's output.

Ted

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 Subject: java applications taking up too much memory


 Hello,
 It seems that my java applications are taking up a ton of
 memory.  Even
 one small jar that I start at startup takes up almost 200 MB!

 I start it like this:
 java -Xms4m -Xmx8m -jar /home/brian/serverWatcher/serverwatcher.jar 
 and it looks like this in top:
 76750 brian 200   159M 10840K kserel   0:03  0.00%  0.00% java

 I start Azureus like this:
 azureus -Xmx128m
 and it looks like this in top:
 59636 brian 200   503M   228M kserel   2:37  0.00%  0.00% java

 I only have 512M of memory on this machine.  Does anyone have any idea
 how I can make these apps take up less memory?

 Thanks

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recommended trouble ticketing system

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez
Hi,
  I'm looking for a software that we can use for
trouble ticketing system. We are using Open Ticket
Request System(OTRS) before but my superiors, told me
that I can search for another better software for this
purpose. Can you suggest me some of the trouble
ticketing systems you have used before aside from OTRS
and if there's any problem you have encountered using
it or its advantages over OTRS. I did a quick search
on google and freebsd ports and found Request
Tracker(RT), also Trouble Ticket System from
Freshmeat, and lastly WebTTS, but I'm having a hard
time deciding which one to use. Suggestions are very
much welcome.

Thanks!



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Re: File permissions

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 03:46 am, Gareth Bailey wrote:
 Hi there,

 I need to set permissions on the /www/data-dist directory such
 that when samba users create new files in it the ownership of
 the files will automatically be set to www.

 How might i do this. I've had a look at the chmod and sticky
 manpages with no luck.

 Thanks,
 Gareth

man smb.conf

I think you want to force group = www
for the shares you want owned by www.

hth,

Mike
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Re: recommended trouble ticketing system

2005-02-23 Thread Pat Maddox
My favorite one is Kayako eSupport - www.kayako.com
Another popular one is Cerberus HelpDesk - www.cerberusweb.com


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:16:15 -0800 (PST), Mark Jayson Alvarez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
   I'm looking for a software that we can use for
 trouble ticketing system. We are using Open Ticket
 Request System(OTRS) before but my superiors, told me
 that I can search for another better software for this
 purpose. Can you suggest me some of the trouble
 ticketing systems you have used before aside from OTRS
 and if there's any problem you have encountered using
 it or its advantages over OTRS. I did a quick search
 on google and freebsd ports and found Request
 Tracker(RT), also Trouble Ticket System from
 Freshmeat, and lastly WebTTS, but I'm having a hard
 time deciding which one to use. Suggestions are very
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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
What is your DSL provider, what telephone company are they using?
Are you running bridged or ppp mode DSL?

DSL modems all use proprietary implementations of the DMT protocol,
while many will interoperate with different DSL providers and
DSLAMS, not all will.

Ted


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 Hello,

 Could anybody recommend a good, solid DSL modem that is
 supported nicely
 by FreeBSD? An internal modem would be preferred but I would consider
 otherwise. My main requirements are stability and a lack of any kind of
 external management (I want my box to be solely in control, not a
 proprietary web or telnet interface).

 I have suffered for far too long with an awful DSL router/firewall that
 goes down at the slightest provocation and offers no real
 authentication!

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Re: Sendmail masquerading configuration

2005-02-23 Thread Ian Moore
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:01, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian Moore
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:10 AM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: Ruben de Groot; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Sendmail masquerading configuration
 
  On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:14, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
   Ian Moore wrote:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:21, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I would probably install src/usr.sbin/ and recompile cron to use
the -f flag.  The flags are settible in cron/config.h in
 
  the source,
 
FreeBSD uses
   
#define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -oi -t
 
/*-*/
 
just change this to
   
#define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -odi -oem -oi
-t /*-*/
   
Ted
   
Thanks, I'll give that a go.
 
  Hi,
  Sorry, I'm still having trouble with this - my changes don't seem to
  have had any effect, cron is still sending mail as
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
  I think I've done something wrong!
 
  What I did was:
 
  #cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/cron
  #ee config.h:
  and I changed the line
#define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -oi -t
  /*-*/
to
#define MAILARGS %s [EMAIL PROTECTED] -odi -oem -oi
  -t  /*-*/
 
  (I assume the # at the beginning is correct?)

 Yes.  But, the line is incorrect - it needs to be the following:

 #define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -odi -oem -oi

 See my earlier posting for this.   man sendmail also will explain the
 flags a bit as well.

 The rest of the stuff is fine.

 Ted

Thanks Ted, - I should have read more carefully.

Well that sort of works - cron jobs get sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
except for the periodic jobs, which are still sent from 
root@hostname.hamcoll.sa.edu.au. Perhaps periodic sends the emails itself 
instead of cron, though looking at it's source I can't see how.

Also, I still need to adjust my sendmail config on the server that is our 
local smtp server. It seems to be putting the hostname back in cron's emails.

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Re: filtering HTML tags from email

2005-02-23 Thread Simon Barner
Mike Hauber wrote:
  Mutt saves to a temp file then calls the following command:
  lynx -localhost -dump %s
  where '%s' is the temporary file you saved it to.
 
  You could also just pipe it to the following:
  lynx -localhost -dump -stdin
 
  the -localhost argument prevents lynx from simply following
  links external to your machine - helpful to avoid generating
  hits for unscrupulous spammers that get paid for hits on a URL.
 
  Just make sure lynx is installed.
 
  Lou
 
 Okay, so to be sure, there is no filter (as of yet) to simply open 
 an email file, strip the HTML tags, and resave it?  I'm not 
 complaining, as this may actually be something I'm capable of 
 creating myself.  (I'll make this my first python project. :) )
 
 I'm just making sure I'm not missing anything obvious before I 
 start working on it.  It's irritating to spend time on something 
 only to find out that it's already been done.

You probably could do it also with procmail + lynx (or w3m) during the
delivery process.

Another possibility is to have the following entries in your ~/.mailcap
file, which converts html, doc and rtf to plain text.

text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html; copiousoutput;
application/msword; antiword %s; copiousoutput
application/rtf; rtfreader %s; copiousoutput

As for your python script: I don't think that just stripping everything
matching the following expressions is correct because they might appear
in non html emails, too: .* \/.* (perl syntax).

At least, you'd need a list of valid html tags, i.e. a regular grammar
for html: b | /b | i | /i | ... (BNF notation).

While this is not too hard to implement (and possibly a good project to
learn a new programming language), this would be too much work for
something that can be achieved easier with existing tools (that is, for
me, personally ;-)

Simon


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Re: Linux Compat - LIBSTDC++.SO.5 - Call Of Duty

2005-02-23 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 09:24:19AM -0700, Nick Pavlica wrote:
 All,
   I'm trying to get the Call of Duty Dedicated server running on
 FreeBSD 5.3.  To do get an error when I run the daemon which is caused
 by issue below.  Are there compatibility libs in the ports collection?
  If not should I use the libs from this link?  If so where to I put
 them?

You need a newer version of linux_base.  I recommend linux_base-rh9.
After upgrading that, you'll probably need to install linux-XFree86-libs
as they are no longer a part of linux_base.

 
 Thanks!
 --Nick
 
 -
 IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LIBSTDC++.SO.5 ...
 
   If you are reading this, it's probably because you tried to start your Linux
server and saw this message:
 
 ./coduo_lnxded: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 
   COD:UO is a C++ program built with gcc 3.2.3, which means it needs a
   system library specific to gcc 3.2. Older Linux systems won't have
   this installed, and we're starting to see newer Linux distributions that
   don't have this either, since they are supplying an incompatible
   gcc 3.4 version. The good news is that you can drop the needed library
   into your system without breaking anything else.
 
   Here is the library you need, if your Linux distribution doesn't supply it:
 http://icculus.org/updates/cod/gcc3-libs.tar.bz2
 
   You want to unpack that somewhere that the dynamic linker will see it
   (if you are sure it won't overwrite any files, you can even use /lib).
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Re: Is there a file where I can specify the location of my header files??(like that of ld.so.hints)

2005-02-23 Thread Simon Barner
Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
 Hi,
   I think I did something horrible with my machine. I
 cannot complete a make anywhere in ports. For
 example, I'm compiling iperf and got this error.
 
 headers.h:82:19: errno.h: No such file or directory
 headers.h:139:24: syslog.h: No such file or directory
 
 I used find to search for these files and I did find
 it.
 
 #find / -name errno.h -print
 /usr/include/sys/errno.h
 /usr/include/sys/syslog.h
 
 Whenever I'm compiling a c program, I learned that I
 can pass a -Idirectory to the gcc, but I don't know
 how to do it in ports. Is there a file where in I can
 specify where my include files can be found, like that
 of the ld-elf.so.hints and ld.so.hints that contains
 the directory where my libraries can be found?

Hmm, please test whether you can compile the following C program:

#include stdio.h

int main (int argc, char *argv[]) {
printf (Hello, Mark!\n);
return 0;
}

Then compile it using: gcc -c hello.c

If it doesn't compile, something happened to your C compiler since
/usr/include should be searched automatically (i.e. without -I) by gcc.

If so, have a look at /etc/make.conf and also /etc/defaults/make.conf
(the latter one should not be modified!)

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Booting problems

2005-02-23 Thread Teilhard Knight
I am not an expert on FreeBSD and I am not an expert on hardware. I think I 
am going nuts compiling my kernel of release 4.11. It compliles all right 
but it wouldn't boot. The error I get is: panic no BSP found. Anyone has 
an idea of what that means? I'll give you my configuration file just in case 
someone takes the trouble to have a look at it. My machine is the HP t730m, 
3GHz HT, 512 Meg of RAM. I would gladly give more info, thing is that 
install works just fine I just do not have sound or Internet (I use a 
wireless connection) Anyway, here is my conf file.

%
#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
# 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html

#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.62.2.1 2005/01/14 03:07:39 
scottl Exp $

machine i386
#cpu I386_CPU
#cpu I486_CPU
#cpu I586_CPU
cpu I686_CPU
ident AURORITA
maxusers 0
#makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
#options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
options INET #InterNETworking
options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
#options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories
options MFS #Memory Filesystem
options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
#options NFS #Network Filesystem
#options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
#options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options PROCFS #Process filesystem
options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
#options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev
#options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug
# output. Adds ~128k to driver.
options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug
# output. Adds ~215k to driver.
# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
device isa
#device eisa
device pci
# Floppy drives
device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
#
# If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy,
# don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one:
#device fdc0
# ATA and ATAPI devices
device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device ata
device atadisk # ATA disk drives
device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
#device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
# SCSI Controllers
#device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device isp # Qlogic family
#device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT/Fusion
#device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
# both sym and ncr are configured
#device adv0 at isa?
#device adw
#device bt0 at isa?
#device aha0 at isa?
#device aic0 at isa?
#device ncv # NCR 53C500
#device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
# SCSI peripherals
device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
device da # Direct Access (disks)
#device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device cd # CD
device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
#device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#device iir # Intel Integrated RAID
#device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
#device ciss # Compaq SmartRAID 5* series
#device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID
# RAID controllers
#device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3
#device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM)
#device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
#device ips # IBM/Adaptec ServeRAID
#device amr # AMI MegaRAID

Re: Questions about ports

2005-02-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello again.
Browsing the freebsd list, I have  found this interesting link that 
explains it great:

http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html
Thank you very much.
Ramiro.
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Re: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread markzero
 What is your DSL provider, what telephone company are they using?
 Are you running bridged or ppp mode DSL?
 
 DSL modems all use proprietary implementations of the DMT protocol,
 while many will interoperate with different DSL providers and
 DSLAMS, not all will.
 
 Ted

Hi Ted, the relevant info:

ISP: Pipex UK - www.pipex.net
TelCo: British Telecom

I am currently connecting to them via PPPoA (I assume this is what
you're referring to, I'm not as knowledgeable as I'd like to be about
DSL).

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: USB drive - crypto filesystem options?

2005-02-23 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:40:37PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 Hey folks.
 
 I have just become the proud owner of a fancy new 1GB USB 2.0 drive;
 one of those cool new gadgets no bigger than my pinky that holds 1
 Billion bytes of data.  Naturally, I can't wait to play with it :)
 
 Well, I know that USB 2.0 support is kinda sketchy, and I've already
 decided it's not stable on the ICH5 USB controller that comes with the
 Dell Dimension 8300.  Regardless, I have confirmed that I can get the
 little gadget mounted (comes pre-formatted with an MSDos filesystem)
 without the slightest hangup.  Yay me.
 
 So, now what I want to do is see what kind of filesystem options I
 have with this little gem.  Ideally, I would like to get an encrypted
 filesystem that requires a password to mount it.  Of course, I've
 checked the ports, but I don't know much about this area, and I don't
 know if I'm even using the right search keys.  A little googling
 revealed a great article at The FreeBSD Diary
 (http://www.freebsddiary.org/encrypted-fs.php) that discusses cfs.
 Sounds cool, move to the top of the list - ok, it's the only thing on
 the list right now.
 
 That's where you folks come in.  Has anyone had any experience
 actually using a crypto filesystem on a USB drive?  What utilities are
 available for this?  And more importantly, what have your experiences
 been?

I, personally, have found that just using gpg to encrypt important files
on my memory stick as gpg runs on multiple oses: bsd, win, linux, max.
I may also place my encrypted private key on it along with executables
on it for windows since linux/bsd propably already have it installed.
Then I can read the files on any system with just a passphrase.

 
 TIA
 Lou
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 08:39:24PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
 
  Why would you want to mount an MSDOS floppy on a server?
 
 In order to copy a raw file image to the floppy.

Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file
smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy.
The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't
because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount.

 
  That reduces the security and stability of your server
 
 Not really. See above. The intent is not to leave the floppy permanently
 mounted; I only needed to copy a raw diskette image to the floppy (a
 boot floppy for FreeBSD, as it happens). As it happens, I found a way to
 do it under Windows, so the problem is solved.
 
 -- 
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Re: Partial web page loading

2005-02-23 Thread J65nko BSD
It could have something to do with an incorrect MTU size. This can
cause partial loading of webpages. See 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/794/router_mtu.html

Adriaan

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:46:09 -0800, Scott Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a relatively new user of FreeBSD (5.3 release), and have
 encountered a problem that I haven't seen on other platforms. The
 details and a screenshot are outlined here:
 
 http://theocacao.com/document.page/82
 
 Essentially, web content (text and images alike, it seems) occasionally
 fails to load in entirety. I personally haven't be able to recreate
 this yet, but a few people have sent me emails about it. I didn't hear
 anything about this prior to switching to FreeBSD. This is the exact
 same content I had running on a Red Hat-based machine running the same
 version of Apache.
 
 I've done a lot of googling and looking through mailing list archives,
 but haven't been able to identify any real leads yet. Syslog doesn't
 suggest anything is amiss. My environment is:
 
 FreeBSD 5.3-Release
 Apache 2.0.50
 PHP 5.0.2
 BIND 9.3.0
 
 Both Apache and PHP were built from ports. I realize Apache is a few
 versions behind, and I'm going to upgrade it. Looking at the changelog,
 though, I can't seem to find anything that would pertain to this.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
  - Scott
 
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dupe messages from -newbies

2005-02-23 Thread Ian Smith
Sorry OT, but I believe I can see the problem with messages being duped
back from -newbies (even when they're not being posted to there!) that
was happening last week on another thread, similarly.

Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 89, Issue 6
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
  Today's Topics:
[..]
 8. What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (John Palmer)

This message was indeed crossposted to -current and -newbies.  Just the
one copy appeared here in -questions, as you'd expect.

11. Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (Jeremie Le Hen)
12. Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (Jeremie Le Hen)
[..]
22. Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (Gavin Atkinson)
23. Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (Gavin Atkinson)
24. Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav)
25. Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ? (Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav)

The second (dupe) of each of those above was appended with a -newbies
trailer, as if somehow messages to -newbies are being automatically
posted back into -questions?  I'll just quote one (shortest) example,
which going by the short headers listed in -questions-digest, was not
crossposted to -newbies .. and even if it had been, why's it here?

Cheers, Ian  

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  Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:55:12 +0100
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav)
  Subject: Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ?
  To: John Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  
  John Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I have installed Freebsd 5.3.  When the machine boots up, it gives me
   several options if I want to boot up in Default Mode, Safe Mode,
   Single User mode, etc.  I understand Single user mode.  What is the
   difference between Safe Mode and Default Mode?
  
  Safe mode disables ACPI, the APIC, ATA and ATAPI DMA, ATA write
  caching, and all EISA devices.
  
  DES
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  Message: 25
  Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:55:12 +0100
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav)
  Subject: Re: What is Freebsd 5.3 safe mode ?
  To: John Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  
  John Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I have installed Freebsd 5.3.  When the machine boots up, it gives me
   several options if I want to boot up in Default Mode, Safe Mode,
   Single User mode, etc.  I understand Single user mode.  What is the
   difference between Safe Mode and Default Mode?
  
  Safe mode disables ACPI, the APIC, ATA and ATAPI DMA, ATA write
  caching, and all EISA devices.
  
  DES
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RE: Removal of item from archive

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
 Atkielski
 Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:58 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Removal of item from archive


 Erik Trulsson writes:

  We sure did.  We have gone through this several times over the last
  couple of years. So far the answer has always been the same: No.

 You can submit DMCAs to any organization hosting archives and using any
 equipment based in the U.S. (including any kind of telecommunications
 link), and to their upstream providers as required.  You have to submit
 to U.S. jurisdiction as part of the process (no matter where you
 actually live).


The DMCA doesen't apply here unless the post she wants to have removed
was a copy protection circuvention device. (because the primary reason
for the DMCA was to define electronically posted software as a device
rather than as speech, thus taking it out of First Amendment
protections.)
Note of course that this hasn't yet been tried before the US Supreme
Court, so the DMCA isn't the be-all and end-all of this argument by
any means.

And yes I am aware of the free speech sky-is-falling people who seem
to think the DMCA applies to everything, this is false despite your
frothing at the mouth about it.

 You can also sue organizations directly for copyright infringement (or
 file complaints for criminal infringement, although that might be hard
 to apply in many jurisdictions).


That is how you would legally force the mailing list archive
(at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/) to
remove the post.  The only problem of course is that you would have
a pretty weak case for several reasons, first you knew you were posting
to a publically archived mailing list when you made the post, so
you gave permission by your posting for it to be archived, second,
assuming it's been posted for some time, without complaint, it would
be difficult to prove that now you are suddenly suffering damages,
so therefore no grounds to sue.

And lastly, if SOMEONE ELSE makes a post to the list, and INCLUDES
part of your post, they are doing so under Fair Use, and you CANNOT
legally compel the archive owner to remove their post, because it
is copyright by them.  All you can do is sue them and if you win
you can force them to sue the archive owners to remove their post -
and if yet again a 3rd person included their post, then there is
yet another person in the chain of lawsuits.

So I think from a practical point of view suing anyone will go
nowhere also.

Beth, part of the problem here is that you have NEVER actually
listed the post or posts you want removed in the archive, for example:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/075296
.html

the above is a specific post.  (not yours, by the way)  Unless you
reference the posts you have a problem with like this, nobody is
going to go to the bother
of doing your work for you.  And if I was an archive owner I would
ignore the kinds of fishing expedition requests you are making
here - without listing the specific posts you could keep the
owner running back and forth forever deleting post after post.

Secondly, you are e-mailing the list itself, NOT the maintainers of
the list.  The list maintainers are

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

As is clearly spelled out on this webpage:

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

In my humble opinion, if you really want a specific post removed,
and you have a GOOD reason for it, a polite e-mail to the list
maintainer, listing the EXACT url of the post, would PROBABLY
work.  After all it's not like they would have to do a great
deal of work ONCE YOU SPECIFIED the post.

But continuing to mail this question to the actual list itself, as
you seem to keep doing, while it serves to provide endless hours of
amusement for the readers of the list, is pretty much a waste of
time.

This by the way is one of the fates of people like yourself who
fail to READ THE DIRECTIONS.  I'll bet you haven't bothered to
read the owners manual of your car, either, yet you probably
consider yourself a good driver.  Uh huh.

Ted

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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of markzero
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:56 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation


  What is your DSL provider, what telephone company are they using?
  Are you running bridged or ppp mode DSL?
 
  DSL modems all use proprietary implementations of the DMT protocol,
  while many will interoperate with different DSL providers and
  DSLAMS, not all will.
 
  Ted

 Hi Ted, the relevant info:

 ISP: Pipex UK - www.pipex.net
 TelCo: British Telecom

 I am currently connecting to them via PPPoA (I assume this is what
 you're referring to, I'm not as knowledgeable as I'd like to be about
 DSL).


Hi Mark,

  OK, pipex is one of those ISP's that doesen't give support to
non-customers
so your going to have to do a bit of legwork for me.

  First, are we talking PIPEX Xtreme Solo, or  PIPEX Xtreme Business?

  Next, log into the Pipex support site for the appropriate service you
have:

https://www.mypipex.net/solo/  or  https://www.mypipex.net/solo/

and go to the support section on DSL modems.  Let me know what the
DSL modem models are that are listed as supported.

If there isn't a listing there, then go to the online ordering
https://secure.pipex.net/cgi-bin/products/xtreme/modem-mf-order.pl
and make an order like you are ordering another modem, go almost
all the way through then abort the order, and in the middle of the
order it should give you a selection of modems that are available
from them for ordering.

Lastly, if you get nothing either of those methods, CALL them at
0845 077 2455  /  (0845 077 BILL) and ask for tech support and
ask for a list of supported modems.  ALSO, very important, if you
do call them ask what the VPI/VCI the modem is supposted to be
set at.  Usually 1/1, or 0/32, or 0/35, those are commonly used
ones.  If you have administrative access to the modem you have
now, it should show this.  Also ask them if it's regular DMT
issue or G.Lite DMT?  Adminstrative access to the modem you have
now should also tell this.

Also, please post the modem model that you are currently using
now (the piece of junk one that isn't working well)

I need to get an idea of the DSL modem chipsets they have their
service setup for.

Ted

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--memory/uptime stats shell script?

2005-02-23 Thread Colin J. Raven
I'm wondering if this even existshere goes nothing: :)
A shell script, run from cron maybe that collects memory stats and 
uptime.
My boss wants to see something like this on one of our intranet pages 
(*plese* don't ask me why, I have no idea!) FreeBSD-5.3 STABLE is our 
current intranet machine OS.

I started hand rolling a script which grepped some of top output, but in 
order to make it meaningful there's a significant amount of regexp 
knowledge required to dump the output that is *not* needed. Regexps give 
me brain pain.

Googling showed a bunch of extremely nice looking graphical output php 
scripts, all of which (ironically) are overkill. This is just intended 
to be a small cell on a intranet page which shows uptime/load averages, 
and what top produces in terms of memory usage. An slightly modiefied 
and formatted version of my .sig I guess.

snmp is not running, otherwise I could prolly do something with that 
(it's not running for security reasons)...so my options as I see 'em now 
are somewhat limited.

Suggestions, guidance, advice, a kick in the rear...all would be 
appreciated! :-)

Regards,
-Colin
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Booting problems

2005-02-23 Thread Teilhard Knight
I am not an expert on FreeBSD and I am not an expert on hardware. I think I
am going nuts compiling my kernel of release 4.11. It compliles all right
but it wouldn't boot. The error I get is: panic no BSP found. Anyone has
an idea of what that means? I'll give you my configuration file just in case
someone takes the trouble to have a look at it. My machine is the HP t730m,
3GHz HT, 512 Meg of RAM. I would gladly give more info, thing is that
install works just fine I just do not have sound or Internet (I use a
wireless connection) Anyway, here is my conf file.
%
#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.62.2.1 2005/01/14 03:07:39
scottl Exp $
machine i386
#cpu I386_CPU
#cpu I486_CPU
#cpu I586_CPU
cpu I686_CPU
ident AURORITA
maxusers 0
#makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
#options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
options INET #InterNETworking
options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
#options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories
options MFS #Memory Filesystem
options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
#options NFS #Network Filesystem
#options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
#options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options PROCFS #Process filesystem
options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
#options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev
#options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug
# output. Adds ~128k to driver.
options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug
# output. Adds ~215k to driver.
# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
device isa
#device eisa
device pci
# Floppy drives
device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
#
# If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy,
# don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one:
#device fdc0
# ATA and ATAPI devices
device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device ata
device atadisk # ATA disk drives
device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
#device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
# SCSI Controllers
#device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device isp # Qlogic family
#device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT/Fusion
#device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
# both sym and ncr are configured
#device adv0 at isa?
#device adw
#device bt0 at isa?
#device aha0 at isa?
#device aic0 at isa?
#device ncv # NCR 53C500
#device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
# SCSI peripherals
device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
device da # Direct Access (disks)
#device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device cd # CD
device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
#device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#device iir # Intel Integrated RAID
#device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
#device ciss # Compaq SmartRAID 5* series
#device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID
# RAID controllers
#device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3
#device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM)
#device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
#device ips # IBM/Adaptec ServeRAID
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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi Mark,

  Well, looks like I was able to bypass that login thingie, here's
the info:

Settings:

http://www.pipexsupport.com/main/pipex.php

Modems:

http://www.pipexsupport.com/main/hardware/

From the looks of it, they are using standard DMT issue, not G.Lite,
with the Alcatel chipset, VPI/VCI 0/38

This is a really good universal combination.  Many DSL modems will
work fine.  But there's 1 modem that I would strongly recommend
in this instance over any other modem:

Westell C90-36R516-01

Why?  Here's why:

1) These are dumb bridged modems so they aren't interfereing with
your BSD box.

2) Westell has updated firmware and a diagnostic utility that
talks to the modem, and has a secret command key sequence that
will tell all of the good line stats (signal to noise ratio,
received and transmitted power, etc.) which are vital to
troubleshooting.

3) Since these modems were obsoleted and were used by Bell Atlantic,
there are tons of them on the used market for very cheap.

4) Other ISP's I've talked to have said these things are rock
solid reliable.  I have never had one of them fail in service
for any of our customers either.

5) It has an honest-to-god Alcatel DSL chipset in it, not the
globespan which is becoming more popular (primariarly because
it's cheaper)

Now, note the following: if you have a very spotty DSL line, then
get the following:

Westell B90-36R515

NOT the B90-36R515-01!!!

Why?  Because the 36R515 has a design flaw in it- it massively
overexceeds the transmitted power allowable for DSL - this is
why Bell Atlantic quickly switched over to the -01 model - that
will sometimes allow you to punch though a crummy line and
get a stable connection.  But the downside is it's DSP microcode
is non-upgradable.  You don't want to use it unless you have to.

Now because this is NOT a PPPoA modem, you must run PPP on your
FreeBSD box.  The big advantage is that since your FreeBSD box
is the PPP terminator - not the DSL modem/router - you get a
legal public number on the ppp interface in the BSD box, which
means if you want to set it up as a server your in business.

The only possible problem is that these Westells were sold
only in the US, they take 24 volt AC (NOT DC!) and come with a 24 volt
AC adapter.  But, you can just go to any junk store and buy
a 24 volt UK style AC adapter and cut off the useless US-style
adapter from it's cord and solder the cord onto your adapter.
(or use a voltage converter from 220-to-110)  The adapter is
NOT AUTOSENSING so don't attempt to just plug into UK power
or you will blow the modem up.

The modem isn't particular about 50-60 hertz so no worries
there.  I also don't think you would have a problem with 
the UK/US phone line voltage difference either.

You also will need to change the VPI/VCI setting to 0/38 it
is normally 0/35, westell has a utility for that.

If you are a bit sqeamish about this, then looking at the PIPEX
recommendation page, go for a ZyXEL Prestige 630

STAY AWAY from ANY dsl modem that does NOT have an ethernet
jack on it!!!  Such as the USB speedtouches that Pipex
was handing out for free!!  There's a reason they are free!!
You can't pay people (who know anything) to take them!!!

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of markzero
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:56 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation
 
 
  What is your DSL provider, what telephone company are they using?
  Are you running bridged or ppp mode DSL?
  
  DSL modems all use proprietary implementations of the DMT protocol,
  while many will interoperate with different DSL providers and
  DSLAMS, not all will.
  
  Ted
 
 Hi Ted, the relevant info:
 
 ISP: Pipex UK - www.pipex.net
 TelCo: British Telecom
 
 I am currently connecting to them via PPPoA (I assume this is what
 you're referring to, I'm not as knowledgeable as I'd like to be about
 DSL).
 
 Cheers,
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RE: Sendmail masquerading configuration

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:27 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Ruben de Groot
 Subject: Re: Sendmail masquerading configuration


 On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:01, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian Moore
   Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:10 AM
   To: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Cc: Ruben de Groot; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: Sendmail masquerading configuration
  
   On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:14, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Ian Moore wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:21, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 I would probably install src/usr.sbin/ and recompile
 cron to use
 the -f flag.  The flags are settible in cron/config.h in
  
   the source,
  
 FreeBSD uses

 #define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -oi -t
  
 /*-*/
  
 just change this to

 #define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -odi -oem -oi
 -t /*-*/

 Ted

 Thanks, I'll give that a go.
  
   Hi,
   Sorry, I'm still having trouble with this - my changes
 don't seem to
   have had any effect, cron is still sending mail as
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
   I think I've done something wrong!
  
   What I did was:
  
   #cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/cron
   #ee config.h:
   and I changed the line
 #define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -oi -t
   /*-*/
 to
 #define MAILARGS %s [EMAIL PROTECTED] -odi -oem -oi
   -t  /*-*/
  
   (I assume the # at the beginning is correct?)
 
  Yes.  But, the line is incorrect - it needs to be the following:
 
  #define MAILARGS %s -FCronDaemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -odi -oem -oi
 
  See my earlier posting for this.   man sendmail also will
 explain the
  flags a bit as well.
 
  The rest of the stuff is fine.
 
  Ted

 Thanks Ted, - I should have read more carefully.

 Well that sort of works - cron jobs get sent from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 except for the periodic jobs, which are still sent from
 root@hostname.hamcoll.sa.edu.au.

That might be nothing more than the

From:

line in the e-mail.  Does the actual received address show:

root@hostname.hamcoll.sa.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED]

or

root@hostname.hamcoll.sa.edu.au root@hostname.hamcoll.sa.edu.au

If it's the first, then your fine, it is because the periodic
script is generating the From: line in the body of the e-mail
message.

 Perhaps periodic sends the
 emails itself
 instead of cron, though looking at it's source I can't see how.

 Also, I still need to adjust my sendmail config on the server
 that is our
 local smtp server. It seems to be putting the hostname back in
 cron's emails.


Some masquerading option must be set on it.  Once again, check the
received message to see if the real senders envelope address is getting
munged, not
just the From: address.

Ted

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Re: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread markzero
 This is a really good universal combination.  Many DSL modems will
 work fine.  But there's 1 modem that I would strongly recommend
 in this instance over any other modem:
 
 Westell C90-36R516-01
 
 Why?  Here's why:
 
 1) These are dumb bridged modems so they aren't interfereing with
 your BSD box.
 
 2) Westell has updated firmware and a diagnostic utility that
 talks to the modem, and has a secret command key sequence that
 will tell all of the good line stats (signal to noise ratio,
 received and transmitted power, etc.) which are vital to
 troubleshooting.
 
 3) Since these modems were obsoleted and were used by Bell Atlantic,
 there are tons of them on the used market for very cheap.
 
 4) Other ISP's I've talked to have said these things are rock
 solid reliable.  I have never had one of them fail in service
 for any of our customers either.
 
 5) It has an honest-to-god Alcatel DSL chipset in it, not the
 globespan which is becoming more popular (primariarly because
 it's cheaper)
 
 Now, note the following: if you have a very spotty DSL line, then
 get the following:
 
 Westell B90-36R515
 
 NOT the B90-36R515-01!!!
 
 Why?  Because the 36R515 has a design flaw in it- it massively
 overexceeds the transmitted power allowable for DSL - this is
 why Bell Atlantic quickly switched over to the -01 model - that
 will sometimes allow you to punch though a crummy line and
 get a stable connection.  But the downside is it's DSP microcode
 is non-upgradable.  You don't want to use it unless you have to.
 
 Now because this is NOT a PPPoA modem, you must run PPP on your
 FreeBSD box.  The big advantage is that since your FreeBSD box
 is the PPP terminator - not the DSL modem/router - you get a
 legal public number on the ppp interface in the BSD box, which
 means if you want to set it up as a server your in business.
 
 The only possible problem is that these Westells were sold
 only in the US, they take 24 volt AC (NOT DC!) and come with a 24 volt
 AC adapter.  But, you can just go to any junk store and buy
 a 24 volt UK style AC adapter and cut off the useless US-style
 adapter from it's cord and solder the cord onto your adapter.
 (or use a voltage converter from 220-to-110)  The adapter is
 NOT AUTOSENSING so don't attempt to just plug into UK power
 or you will blow the modem up.
 
 The modem isn't particular about 50-60 hertz so no worries
 there.  I also don't think you would have a problem with 
 the UK/US phone line voltage difference either.
 
 You also will need to change the VPI/VCI setting to 0/38 it
 is normally 0/35, westell has a utility for that.
 
 If you are a bit sqeamish about this, then looking at the PIPEX
 recommendation page, go for a ZyXEL Prestige 630
 
 STAY AWAY from ANY dsl modem that does NOT have an ethernet
 jack on it!!!  Such as the USB speedtouches that Pipex
 was handing out for free!!  There's a reason they are free!!
 You can't pay people (who know anything) to take them!!!
 
 Ted

Thanks for the recommendations and the detailed info! I will
probably give both a try and I definitely not be touching those
sorry USB things (I've recently been trying to get one up and
running on my friends BSD box and have pretty much given up
in disgust).

I'll be trawling eBay within the hour. :)

Thanks again,
Mark

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Re: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Chris Hodgins
[snip]
STAY AWAY from ANY dsl modem that does NOT have an ethernet
jack on it!!!  Such as the USB speedtouches that Pipex
was handing out for free!!  There's a reason they are free!!
You can't pay people (who know anything) to take them!!!
Ted
What is so wrong with USB DSL modems?  I have an Alcatel Speedtouch 
modem that has been absolutely rock solid since I bought it on ebay for 
£8.50.  It was very easy to setup.  I just installed the pppoa port and 
set up the ppp.conf file and plugged it in.  Takes about 30secs to 
1minute to start-up on a boot but once it is running I have no problems 
at all.  Using it for my home server and I route all of my home network 
traffic out through it.  No problems at all.

Chris


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of markzero
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:56 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation

What is your DSL provider, what telephone company are they using?
Are you running bridged or ppp mode DSL?
DSL modems all use proprietary implementations of the DMT protocol,
while many will interoperate with different DSL providers and
DSLAMS, not all will.
Ted
Hi Ted, the relevant info:
ISP: Pipex UK - www.pipex.net
TelCo: British Telecom
I am currently connecting to them via PPPoA (I assume this is what
you're referring to, I'm not as knowledgeable as I'd like to be about
DSL).
Cheers,
Mark
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Re: recommended trouble ticketing system

2005-02-23 Thread Eric F Crist
On Feb 23, 2005, at 3:16 AM, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
Hi,
  I'm looking for a software that we can use for
trouble ticketing system. We are using Open Ticket
Request System(OTRS) before but my superiors, told me
that I can search for another better software for this
purpose. Can you suggest me some of the trouble
ticketing systems you have used before aside from OTRS
and if there's any problem you have encountered using
it or its advantages over OTRS. I did a quick search
on google and freebsd ports and found Request
Tracker(RT), also Trouble Ticket System from
Freshmeat, and lastly WebTTS, but I'm having a hard
time deciding which one to use. Suggestions are very
much welcome.
Thanks!
I strongly recommend eGroupware, available in ports 
(/usr/ports/deskutils/egroupware).  It does a lot more than TTS, but we 
use it for a few clients and they love it.

HTH
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Re: filtering HTML tags from email

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 04:43 am, Simon Barner wrote:
   You could also just pipe it to the following:
   lynx -localhost -dump -stdin
  
   Lou
 
  Okay, so to be sure, there is no filter (as of yet) to simply
  open an email file, strip the HTML tags, and resave it?  I'm
  not complaining, as this may actually be something I'm
  capable of creating myself.  (I'll make this my first python
  project. :) )
 

 You probably could do it also with procmail + lynx (or w3m)
 during the delivery process.

 Another possibility is to have the following entries in your
 ~/.mailcap file, which converts html, doc and rtf to plain
 text.

 text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html; copiousoutput;
 application/msword; antiword %s; copiousoutput
 application/rtf; rtfreader %s; copiousoutput

 Simon

Just after destroying the headers in who-knows-how-many emails 
(backed up...  whew!), I finally realized that piping the 
messages though html2text (or lynx or w3m) was probably not such 
a great idea after all.  :)

This is something that really should be implemented as part of 
kmail itself (it would help to remain compatable with both 
maildir/mbox).  I'll continue to be frustrated with html2text for 
a while (it's a pretty cool tool), and who knows...  Mayhaps I'll 
figure out a reasonable way to set it up so that everything is 
done automatically.

Thanks for the feeds.

Mike
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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Hodgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:51 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: markzero; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation
 
 
 [snip]
  
  STAY AWAY from ANY dsl modem that does NOT have an ethernet
  jack on it!!!  Such as the USB speedtouches that Pipex
  was handing out for free!!  There's a reason they are free!!
  You can't pay people (who know anything) to take them!!!
  
  Ted
 
 What is so wrong with USB DSL modems?  

The USB port was designed for use with joysticks, keyboards,
mice, etc.  Not ethernet speeds.

If you ever have an opportunity to do a side-by-side comparison
between an ethernet modem and a USB you will see your CPU
utilization much lower on the ethernet.  Ethernet controllers
are far superior and efficient than USB chipsets.

Now of course, DSL is not high bandwidth (compared to Ethernet)
so there is that argument that it makes no difference.

Another argument is that if you have no need to run a server,
USB means you have to waste CPU on translation.  Of course the
counter to that is that with a modem/router, you can't get a
public IP address.

And yet another is that if the hardware changes in the future,
a day might come when a new motherboard with a new USB chipset
is not detected and usable by some version of FreeBSD.  Ethernet
your pretty much guarenteed will be around forever.

But, speaking as an ISP I can tell you the biggest reason
we recommend against USB for our customers - most of our
customers are windoze users, and if you put a USB modem on
their windows boxes, when they connect in, they get a public
IP address assigned to their Windows box.

And if they aren't currently patched (few 'doze user are ever)
within an hour their machine will be compromized by someone's
trojan and their machine will then become a menace and a problem
on the network.  Our network.

We do not see the advantage to us to have a couple dozen
'doze users on our 1.5x1M DSL circuits, infected with the
latest virus and attempting to reinfect the rest of the
Internet.  Maybe you do?  Certainly the cable Internet providers
in the US seem to think there's an advantage, that is why
the cable networks all run like dog crap.

Ted

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RE: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
 Atkielski
 Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:59 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Different OS's? Marketshare
 
 
 Robert Kim, Wireless Internet / Wifi Hotspot Advisor writes:
 
  any idea how many major OS's are out there today and what 
 market share
  they have?
 
 Fresh stats from my Web server:
 
 Windows . . . . . . . . . . 93.5118 %
 Macintosh . . . . . . . . .  4.7794 %
 Unknown . . . . . . . . . .  1.2731 %
 WebTV . . . . . . . . . . .  0.2028 %
 Linux . . . . . . . . . . .  0.1857 %
 Sun Solaris . . . . . . . .  0.0289 %
 FreeBSD . . . . . . . . . .  0.0182 %


So, Anthony,

  What website is this exactly?  Would you like the stats to show
different?  A few minutes with a script I can probably arrainge
them to say whatever you want. ;-)

  If your site is targeted to Windows users I would expect it
to have a high percentage of hits from Windows.

Ted
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RE: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Kim,
 Wireless Internet / Wifi Hotspot Advisor
 Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:49 AM
 To: List Free Bsd
 Subject: Different OS's? Marketshare


 Different OS's? Marketshare...

 any idea how many major OS's are out there today and what market share
 they have?

 i think

 WIN 70%
 Lin 20%
 Apple 5%
 so who is the other 5 % ???

 you realze the statisticians and economists hold that 2 percent is the
 break point...


Break even for what?  Oh I get it - break even to make a profit, right?

Hmm I wonder who gets the profits from the sale of FreeBSD?  Do you
suppose
they would be overly concerned with the 2% rule?

This is one of the (many) problems with trying to hold a free OS up to
a measuring stick designed for measuring commercial OSes.

Note that Linux is doing much better against these measuring sticks
because
the Linux community, for all their loud proclamations about being GPL,
has been steadily making Linux less and less distinguishable from the
commercial OSs.  When for example was the last time you saw a Linux
enthusiast with a burned CDROM of an ISO he downloaded somewhere?  The
ones I see all have colorful cardboard boxes with penguins on them
that they bought at Fry's.

Consider that even if FreeBSD had 50% of all running computers - if those
50% of computers all belong to people that never buy software and only
run freeware, the people that create these measuring sticks would bend
over backwards to be sure those 50% were not counted.  Not because they
have anything against FreeBSD, but simply because the customers of the
data these measuring sticks produce cannot sell anything to that 50% -
thus they don't care if that 50% exists or not.

Ted

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Re: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Chris Hodgins
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hodgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:51 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: markzero; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation
[snip]
STAY AWAY from ANY dsl modem that does NOT have an ethernet
jack on it!!!  Such as the USB speedtouches that Pipex
was handing out for free!!  There's a reason they are free!!
You can't pay people (who know anything) to take them!!!
Ted
What is so wrong with USB DSL modems?  

The USB port was designed for use with joysticks, keyboards,
mice, etc.  Not ethernet speeds.
If you ever have an opportunity to do a side-by-side comparison
between an ethernet modem and a USB you will see your CPU
utilization much lower on the ethernet.  Ethernet controllers
are far superior and efficient than USB chipsets.
Now of course, DSL is not high bandwidth (compared to Ethernet)
so there is that argument that it makes no difference.
I was just thinking that. :)
Another argument is that if you have no need to run a server,
USB means you have to waste CPU on translation.  Of course the
counter to that is that with a modem/router, you can't get a
public IP address.
I guess generally most would not require to run a server so thats a fair 
point.

And yet another is that if the hardware changes in the future,
a day might come when a new motherboard with a new USB chipset
is not detected and usable by some version of FreeBSD.  Ethernet
your pretty much guarenteed will be around forever.
Why would I buy a computer with a motherboard not supported by FreeBSD? 
 I guess if we are speaking about the general user that may apply but 
you could also argue the general user would most likely be using windows 
and pretty much guaranteed a working proprietary driver.  Of course by 
the time this new chipset is out, Windows may be dead and FreeBSD is the 
new ruler of the free world.  You just never know. ;)

But, speaking as an ISP I can tell you the biggest reason
we recommend against USB for our customers - most of our
customers are windoze users, and if you put a USB modem on
their windows boxes, when they connect in, they get a public
IP address assigned to their Windows box.
Yeah, I can understand why that might be a problem.
And if they aren't currently patched (few 'doze user are ever)
within an hour their machine will be compromized by someone's
trojan and their machine will then become a menace and a problem
on the network.  Our network.
Indeed...bad user...bad!
We do not see the advantage to us to have a couple dozen
'doze users on our 1.5x1M DSL circuits, infected with the
latest virus and attempting to reinfect the rest of the
Internet.  Maybe you do?  
You come across as being a very smart guy so why ask this question?  I 
am asking a general why not USB?, not USB modems are awesome and you 
should all convert!.

Certainly the cable Internet providers
in the US seem to think there's an advantage, that is why
the cable networks all run like dog crap.
Ted
Well they have made there bed and now they have to lie in it. :)
Chris
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Problems with installing freeBSD 4.8

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Jansson
Hello
I am facing some problems with installing FreeBSD 4.8.
This is my computer configuration:
Build from a barbone system by ASUS; Terminator P4 533.
With 256 megs of Ram. Integrated SiS video card. And a 40 Gigs hard drive named 
Maxtor 6E040L0. When I boot from the cd with custom configuration the computer 
prints a lot of things on my display. I did not saw any errors. In the begining 
the caps lock and num lock keys give response on my keyboard. Then the computer 
tell me thats it reseting the console. Num lock and Caps lock stops working. 
And on the display i can read these words reseting ata0 Then nothing 
happends. Maybe I am to impatient but I lend the cd to a friend and he managed 
to come to the menu system. i waited about 2-3 minuts but still nothing.
Please Help me!
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Re: Domain registration

2005-02-23 Thread Glenn McCalley
We use BulkRegister.com
$12 I think, and if you've got something oddball you can easily get a real
live human being on the phone who knows what they're doing.  The online mgmt
interface is pretty good and it works like you'd expect it to.  Had --lots-- 
of problems with NSI/Verisign that evaporated when we went to these guys.
We do our own DNS, hosting, mail etc so I don't know about their products in
these areas.
Glenn.


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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Glenn McCalley
I think he said break point not break even
In a previous life, our stats guys in banking considered anything that had
2% share (although I think we used 3%, whatever) of a population was
significant and worth breaking out for study.
Glenn.

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From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Kim, Wireless Internet / Wifi Hotspot Advisor
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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: Different OS's? Marketshare




  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Kim,
  Wireless Internet / Wifi Hotspot Advisor
  Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:49 AM
  To: List Free Bsd
  Subject: Different OS's? Marketshare
 
 
  Different OS's? Marketshare...
 
  any idea how many major OS's are out there today and what market share
  they have?
 
  i think
 
  WIN 70%
  Lin 20%
  Apple 5%
  so who is the other 5 % ???
 
  you realze the statisticians and economists hold that 2 percent is the
  break point...
 

 Break even for what?  Oh I get it - break even to make a profit, right?

 Hmm I wonder who gets the profits from the sale of FreeBSD?  Do you
 suppose
 they would be overly concerned with the 2% rule?

 This is one of the (many) problems with trying to hold a free OS up to
 a measuring stick designed for measuring commercial OSes.

 Note that Linux is doing much better against these measuring sticks
 because
 the Linux community, for all their loud proclamations about being GPL,
 has been steadily making Linux less and less distinguishable from the
 commercial OSs.  When for example was the last time you saw a Linux
 enthusiast with a burned CDROM of an ISO he downloaded somewhere?  The
 ones I see all have colorful cardboard boxes with penguins on them
 that they bought at Fry's.

 Consider that even if FreeBSD had 50% of all running computers - if those
 50% of computers all belong to people that never buy software and only
 run freeware, the people that create these measuring sticks would bend
 over backwards to be sure those 50% were not counted.  Not because they
 have anything against FreeBSD, but simply because the customers of the
 data these measuring sticks produce cannot sell anything to that 50% -
 thus they don't care if that 50% exists or not.

 Ted

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Re: Removal of item from archive

2005-02-23 Thread Jason Stewart
On 23/02/05 02:33 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 Beth, part of the problem here is that you have NEVER actually
 listed the post or posts you want removed in the archive, for example:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/075296
 .html
 
 the above is a specific post.  (not yours, by the way)  Unless you
 reference the posts you have a problem with like this, nobody is
 going to go to the bother
 of doing your work for you.  And if I was an archive owner I would
 ignore the kinds of fishing expedition requests you are making
 here - without listing the specific posts you could keep the
 owner running back and forth forever deleting post after post.
 

I'll do some of the legwork here. Doing a simple google search on
everstinc.com reveals a spammy, dodgy past. My guess is that Beth has
been given the task of erasing this past so potential customers cannot
see the truth about everestinc.com. 

See this post specifically to the freeBSD list back in 98:
http://tinyurl.com/3osmm

The rest of the hits in google's usenet archive are to
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet

Jason
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daemon??

2005-02-23 Thread David Carter
Who would I need to speak to about making a product that involves the little 
devil?  It is not a software item, but instead it is a material object?


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ntpd core dump

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Danter
Hi all,
I have 5.3-RELEASE installed. I'm trying to run ntpd but I get a message 
in /var/log/messages that it exited on signal 11 (core dumped).

Is there a known problem with this version or is there somethig wrong 
with my config file (below)? This file is based on one I use on a Linux 
host with no problems.

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sendmail startup script?

2005-02-23 Thread Ken Hawkins
I am in the midst of reconfiguring sendmail on a box to forward the 
mail from the domain to another box (true mail smtp box). is there a 
script that I can call similar to what is in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d 
area? how does sendmail konw what flags to set in the command on 
startup?

btw my line from ps'ing is:
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -oi -t
thanks in advance!
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Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread Freminlins
But in December, Yahoo started to port its homegrown infrastructure
applications from its custom operating system to Red Hat Enterprise
Linux 4.0, which was in beta at the time and was released last week.
Plans call for a gradual migration of more applications to Linux, but
the timing and number will depend on how successfully the early work
goes, Ng said.

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,99901,00.html
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Re: daemon??

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Harr
Who would I need to speak to about making a product that
involves the little devil?  It is not a software item, but instead
it is a material object?

http://www.google.com/search?q=bsd+daemon+copyright
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html
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Re: daemon??

2005-02-23 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 11:12:38AM -0800, David Carter wrote:
 Who would I need to speak to about making a product that involves the
 little devil?  It is not a software item, but instead it is a
 material object?

Kirk McKusick seems to be the person you need to talk to.
See http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html and
http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html  for more information.




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Re: sendmail startup script?

2005-02-23 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-02-23 08:54, Ken Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am in the midst of reconfiguring sendmail on a box to forward the
 mail from the domain to another box (true mail smtp box). is there a
 script that I can call similar to what is in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d
 area? how does sendmail konw what flags to set in the command on
 startup?

/etc/rc.conf contains the flags for Sendmail.

The /etc/rc.sendmail script can be used to stop, start or restart the
Sendmail daemon processes.

 btw my line from ps'ing is:

 /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -oi -t

This doesn't look like a daemon invocation of Sendmail (i.e. no -bd
flags are present).  The -t option means it's probably an invocation of
Sendmail from another user process, which is currently posting a
message.

- Giorgos

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Re: SSH terminal locking up from OS X to FreeBSD

2005-02-23 Thread Jim Freeze
* Doug Hardy

 The localhost is trying to send the 40 bytes in its buffer.  It is not 
 receiving and ACK from remotemachine so it retries until it eventually 
 gives up.  The F flag is localhost issuing a FIN to remotemachine to 
 drop the TCP connection.   It tries a couple times and then likewise 
 gives up.  I would recommend a ktrace on the server  to see if it 
 yields any additional information.  My guess is that the sshd process 
 has died.  syslog might not be set to catch the error it may be 
 generating.  ktrace will show all the syslog calls

Well, I cannot run ktrace on this particular server. I did run it on the
client, but I'm not sure that is much help.

Yup, that is what has happened. The sshd process (pid 45244 and 45265 below)
is dying (not the /usr/sbin/sshd one).
  root  52394  0.0  0.0  1000  340  p0  DL+   2:54PM   0:00.00 grep ssh
  root  60244  0.0  0.1  2404 1624  ??  Ss8:45AM   0:00.46 /usr/sbin/sshd
  root  45244  0.0  0.1  5056 1840  ??  Is2:45PM   0:00.03 sshd: jdf [priv] 
(sshd)
  jdf   45265  0.0  0.1  5000 1848  ??  S 2:45PM   0:00.04 sshd: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] (sshd)

So, why would this be dying when I login with a Mac and not
from linux? Is the mac not pinging the server to remind it
not to doze off into unconsciousness?

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FreeBSD 5.3 WARNING: $swapoff is not set properly

2005-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijer
Hi all,

When I restart my system, I get this message when the system is shutting down:

/etc/rc.shutdown: WARNING: $swapoff is not set properly - see rc.conf(5).

Does anybody know what this means and how I can solve it?

Thanks!

Gerard
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[no subject]

2005-02-23 Thread Andrei Iarus
I have the 4.11 Release installed. In handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html
is written: 
All versions of the 4.X branch  PF is available as
part of KAME. And I dare to ask: what KAME is (of
course from ports i could`nt install pf). Thanks.



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Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:00:31 +, Freminlins wrote
 But in December, Yahoo started to port its homegrown infrastructure
 applications from its custom operating system to Red Hat Enterprise
 Linux 4.0, which was in beta at the time and was released last week.
 Plans call for a gradual migration of more applications to Linux, but
 the timing and number will depend on how successfully the early work
 goes, Ng said.
 
 http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,
 99901,00.html 

I don't think that they would. That'll be a massive migration involving lots
and lots of costs. They have to pay for RedHat Enterprise too. The only reason
I can think off is that they want support.Perhaps I missed a part, but I don't
see the word FreeBSD in that article. 

Besides, the point of the article is not regarding a migration of Yahoo, but
Linux and IT in general. It has nothing to do with Yahoo or FreeBSD. I think
that the author of the article is simply mistaking.

Jorn.
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Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread Freminlins
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:36:36 +0100, Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't think that they would. That'll be a massive migration involving lots
 and lots of costs. They have to pay for RedHat Enterprise too. The only reason
 I can think off is that they want support.Perhaps I missed a part, but I don't
 see the word FreeBSD in that article.

Although it doesn't state FreeBSD, I understand that Yahoo! runs stuff
on FreeBSD.
 
 Besides, the point of the article is not regarding a migration of Yahoo, but
 Linux and IT in general. It has nothing to do with Yahoo or FreeBSD. I think
 that the author of the article is simply mistaking.

I'n not sure I agree with that. The author stated But in December,
Yahoo started to port ... to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 That would
suggest that Yahoo! is moving to Linux.

I am very interested in this as I have for several years used the
argument we use the same OS as Yahoo!. We're not going to migrate to
Linux if Yahoo! does.

 Jorn.


Frem.
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qt QMAKESPEC error during qmake

2005-02-23 Thread Leandro Malaquias
hi,

While trying to run qmake the following error message came up:

QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced.
Error processing project file: project.pro

To solve this problem I added de folowing line in the profile:

export QMAKESPEC=freebsd-g++

I hope this helps someone

Leandro Malaquias
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Loren M. Lang writes:

 Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file
 smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy.

Specifically, I was trying to generate an installation boot floppy for
FreeBSD, in order to install it on my other machine (which is too old to
boot from CD).

 The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't
 because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount.

I got the error just trying to mount the diskette.  I tried all
different formats of the mount and mount_msdosfs commands and they all
either generated a syntax error or told me that the operation was not
permitted.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

 What website is this exactly?

My own.

 Would you like the stats to show different?

I don't care what they show, as long as they are accurate.

 If your site is targeted to Windows users I would expect it
 to have a high percentage of hits from Windows.

It's not targeted to any particular operating system; it appeals to a
random cross-section of the Web population in terms of computers,
operating systems, browsers, and so on.  The stats mirror what I've seen
for other sites of general interest.

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Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:42:14 +, Freminlins wrote
 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:36:36 +0100, Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't think that they would. That'll be a massive migration involving lots
  and lots of costs. They have to pay for RedHat Enterprise too. The only 
  reason
  I can think off is that they want support.Perhaps I missed a part, but I 
  don't
  see the word FreeBSD in that article.
 
 Although it doesn't state FreeBSD, I understand that Yahoo! runs 
 stuff on FreeBSD.

Yes, I was aware of that :-)

 
  Besides, the point of the article is not regarding a migration of Yahoo, but
  Linux and IT in general. It has nothing to do with Yahoo or FreeBSD. I think
  that the author of the article is simply mistaking.
 
 I'n not sure I agree with that. The author stated But in December,
 Yahoo started to port ... to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 That would
 suggest that Yahoo! is moving to Linux.

Well, I can say that Microsoft is using illegal Warez stuff in their WMA
extension, but who would believe me? I don't have any proof right? Point is,
the author can say something like that, but I've never heard that Yahoo is
migrating. If they would it would definitely be in the news if they would. I'd
like to see a source where the author has gathered information.

 
 I am very interested in this as I have for several years used the
 argument we use the same OS as Yahoo!. We're not going to migrate 
 to Linux if Yahoo! does.

No, of course not :-) 

I vaguely recall a discussion like this on the list in the past. I'll look it
up on Google if I have time.

 
  Jorn.
 
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bridge issue

2005-02-23 Thread ann kok
Hi 

I am using freebsd 4.10. In /var/log/messages, I have
error

Feb 23 02:48:00 bridge kernel: -- loop (0)
00.41.05.8a.15.bd to ste0 from ste1 (active)
Feb 23 02:48:00 bridge kernel: -- loop (1)
00.41.05.8a.15.bd to ste1 from ste0 (active)

My setting:

net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1
net.link.ether.bridge.config=ste0,ste1,ste2,vr0
net.link.ether.bridge.ipfw=1


Can you help?



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Re: your mail

2005-02-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 07:27:31AM -0800, Andrei Iarus wrote:
 I have the 4.11 Release installed. In handbook:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html
 is written: 
 All versions of the 4.X branchPF is available as
 part of KAME. And I dare to ask: what KAME is (of
 course from ports i could`nt install pf). Thanks.

KAME is an implementation of the IPv6 network stack done by a
consortium of Japanese companies.  See http://www.kame.net/ -- the
turtle[*] moves if you're accessing the site via IPv6.

 Cheers,

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[*] Kame is Japanese for turtle, or more precisely it's an English
transliteration of the Japanese for turtle.

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Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jorn Argelo writes:

 I don't think that they would. That'll be a massive migration involving lots
 and lots of costs. They have to pay for RedHat Enterprise too. The only reason
 I can think off is that they want support.

Support is a pretty big reason for most companies.

In a few years, RedHat and its ilk are going to cost just as much as
Microsoft software, and they'll have all the same disadvantages (but
without all the advantages).  It will be hard to tell them apart.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

 Note that Linux is doing much better against these measuring sticks
 because the Linux community, for all their loud proclamations about
 being GPL, has been steadily making Linux less and less
 distinguishable from the commercial OSs. When for example was the last
 time you saw a Linux enthusiast with a burned CDROM of an ISO he
 downloaded somewhere? The ones I see all have colorful cardboard boxes
 with penguins on them that they bought at Fry's.

I've been looking at Linux these past few days (trying to decide whether
to install FreeBSD or Linux on the machine I just freed up), and I've
noticed the same thing.  Free appears to be a near-total illusion when
it comes to Linux.  And hardly any distribution seems to require less
than 6 or 7 CDs.  And the Web sites I visit are extremely circumspect
about exactly how to download free versions of their distributions,
when they even offer such free copies.

It all looks very much (too much) like Microsoft.

There have been a few exceptions.  The Slackware site looked pretty
spartan compared to most of the others.

I still might try to get FreeBSD running on the desktop instead, since I
know FreeBSD better (but then again, perhaps I should be learning more
about Linux as well?).  That depends on getting past the boot problem
and resolving another anomaly with the SCSI disks, though.

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Re: your mail

2005-02-23 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
(BOn Feb 23, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
(B
(B [*] Kame is Japanese for turtle, or more precisely it's an English
(B transliteration of the Japanese for turtle.
(B
(BNo, it is one of the Romaji transliterations [may be the only one since 
(Bit is a simple word, but there are multuple systems] for the japanese 
(Bfor turtle $B55!!(Bor $B$+$a(B
(B
(BThe roman alphabet is one of the accepted alphabets and is used in 
(Bwriting japanese, by japanese, with English out of the question, when 
(Bthey cannot write kanji/hiragana/katakana.
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:30:35 -0800
Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Kim,
  Wireless Internet / Wifi Hotspot Advisor
  Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:49 AM
  To: List Free Bsd
  Subject: Different OS's? Marketshare
 
 
  Different OS's? Marketshare...
 
  any idea how many major OS's are out there today and what market
  share they have?
 
  i think
 
  WIN 70%
  Lin 20%
  Apple 5%
  so who is the other 5 % ???
 
  you realze the statisticians and economists hold that 2 percent is
  the break point...
 
snip 
 Note that Linux is doing much better against these measuring sticks
 because
 the Linux community, for all their loud proclamations about being GPL,
 has been steadily making Linux less and less distinguishable from the
 commercial OSs.  When for example was the last time you saw a Linux
 enthusiast with a burned CDROM of an ISO he downloaded somewhere?  The
 ones I see all have colorful cardboard boxes with penguins on them
 that they bought at Fry's.

You must be looking at a different Linux community than the one I'm
familiar with. I thought boxed sets of Linux had gone out of retail
stores years ago. Well, except maybe for a couple of Redhat choices. I
haven't even had reason to look for them. I'm having too much fun with
downloading versions and upgrading over the internet - yes, for free.

Linspire and Redhat tend to be Windows-like, in hiding their free
releases or not releasing them until the next version comes out, etc.,
but they're generally considered the exception in the Linux community.

Some of our webservers at work are FreeBSD, others are Debian Linux.
Don't shoot me, but I'm still using Debian on my desktop, too. If I had
to start paying for Linux releases and security patches, I would be
using FreeBSD faster than Windoze users can type format c:. 

I understand there's some competition between FreeBSD and Linux, but
Linux doesn't have to be considered evil just because they're not
FreeBSD fans.

Jacob
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Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread RW
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 14:00, Freminlins wrote:
 But in December, Yahoo started to port its homegrown infrastructure
 applications from its custom operating system to Red Hat Enterprise
 Linux 4.0, which was in beta at the time and was released last week.
 Plans call for a gradual migration of more applications to Linux, but
 the timing and number will depend on how successfully the early work
 goes, Ng said.

 http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,99901,00
.html ___


One of the thing they mention is performance and scalability improving on 
Linux, which suggests they aren't talking about it replacing FreeBSD.  My 
understanding is that they use FreeBSD 4.x on cheap interchangeable low-end 
webservers. I think they use Solaris on higher-end machines.  

Having said that, once they start using Linux, I wonder how long they will 
want to keep both FreeBSD and Linux.
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:21:06 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
 
  Note that Linux is doing much better against these measuring sticks
  because the Linux community, for all their loud proclamations about
  being GPL, has been steadily making Linux less and less
  distinguishable from the commercial OSs. When for example was the
  last time you saw a Linux enthusiast with a burned CDROM of an ISO
  he downloaded somewhere? The ones I see all have colorful cardboard
  boxes with penguins on them that they bought at Fry's.
 
 I've been looking at Linux these past few days (trying to decide
 whether to install FreeBSD or Linux on the machine I just freed up),
 and I've noticed the same thing.  Free appears to be a near-total
 illusion when it comes to Linux.  And hardly any distribution seems to
 require less than 6 or 7 CDs.  And the Web sites I visit are extremely
 circumspect about exactly how to download free versions of their
 distributions, when they even offer such free copies.
 
 It all looks very much (too much) like Microsoft.

You obviously didn't look at Debian then. The soon-to-be-released Sarge
version is currently 14cds, but you only need to download a 35MB or
110MB installation cd to get started. The rest of the programs are
downloaded from mirrors as needed. In fact, the Debian download page
_discourages_ people from downloading all 14 cds. The principles behind
Debian's apt-get is similar to FreeBSD's ports and portupgrade - but the
organization scheme is different. 

As to which will suit your purposes better; why not do a dual boot
between Linux and FreeBSD? They can co-exist happily.

HTH  HAND,
Jacob
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ipfw and nmap

2005-02-23 Thread sn1tch
I am fairly new to IPFW, I have question regarding the stateful part
of it. Now I may just be misunderstanding this so set me straight if I
am. From what I understand when you add a check-state rule and then
following that a rule to keep-state, if a packet destined for that
port is new and setup was not added to the keep-state rule then
wouldn't it get denied at the check-state rule since keep-state did
not add a dynamic rule? My problem is this, and again this may not
even be correct but I have a bsd box that is simply providing me SSH
capabilities..here are the rules for it:

add check-state
add allow all from any to any 22 in via fxp0 keep-state
then the default to deny rule.

Now is there a way to allow setup connections but disallow port
scanners like nmap from seeing it as being open?

Thanks for any help
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jacob S writes:

 You must be looking at a different Linux community than the one I'm
 familiar with. I thought boxed sets of Linux had gone out of retail
 stores years ago.

I bought a copy of Mandrake Linux in a retail store yesterday.  I saw
SuSE in the store, too.  Computer stores have a wider choice.

 I'm having too much fun with downloading versions and upgrading over
 the internet - yes, for free.

That says a lot about the type of user you are.

 Linspire and Redhat tend to be Windows-like, in hiding their free
 releases or not releasing them until the next version comes out, etc.,
 but they're generally considered the exception in the Linux community.

I've looked at a fair number of Linux Web sites over the past few days.
Almost all of them seemed to be trying to sell something.  It was often
extremely hard to find links pointing to downloadable free versions of
anything.

 I understand there's some competition between FreeBSD and Linux, but
 Linux doesn't have to be considered evil just because they're not
 FreeBSD fans.

It's not evil to sell software.  But it's not free software, either.

-- 
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Laurence Sanford
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
There have been a few exceptions.  The Slackware site looked pretty
spartan compared to most of the others.
 

I was converted to FreeBSD from Slackware. If you want to go Linux and 
maintain the freedom of configuration you have with FreeBSD (ie, just 
edit the text file, which is in a sensable spot) and get ...whatever it 
is you hope to get from linux - don't get me wrong, Linux has a lot to 
offer, I just can't personally think of anything it offers above and 
beyond FreeBSD - Slackware would be the way to go in my opinion. But 
that's holy war territory now, so I'll leave you with this: I switched 
to FreeBSD from Slackware because of the ports/package system. They make 
software installation so easy a Microsoft user could do it if they pay 
attention.
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Laurence Sanford writes:

 I was converted to FreeBSD from Slackware. If you want to go Linux and
 maintain the freedom of configuration you have with FreeBSD (ie, just
 edit the text file, which is in a sensable spot) and get ...whatever it
 is you hope to get from linux - don't get me wrong, Linux has a lot to
 offer, I just can't personally think of anything it offers above and 
 beyond FreeBSD - Slackware would be the way to go in my opinion.

I'm mainly debating whether or not some direct experience with Linux
would or would not be professionally useful to me.  Were it not for
that, FreeBSD would be the obvious choice.

As it is, FreeBSD will probably be the desktop I end up running, in part
because I know it better than Linux, in part because I can actually get
it to install and boot (unlike Mandrake, which just left me dead in the
water 30 seconds after booting and showing a pretty startup screen), and
in part because I like to know what I'm installing instead of just
installing a black box.

However, an obstacle is setting up an X environment, which I don't know
much about, and which I don't have unlimited time to fool around with.
Some of the Linux distributions claim to be plug and play (although I
have serious doubts about this).  Also, on my old hardware, I suspect
that hardly anything could be plug and play--there are just too many
weirdnesses on this HP Vectra.

 But
 that's holy war territory now, so I'll leave you with this: I switched
 to FreeBSD from Slackware because of the ports/package system. They make
 software installation so easy a Microsoft user could do it if they pay
 attention.

Does that include X and KDE?  I'm getting wild SCSI errors on FreeBSD
trying to install stuff, and I don't really know what that means, but it
doesn't appear to be corrupting anything, and it seems to be installing
software.

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Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
RW writes:

 Having said that, once they start using Linux, I wonder how long they will
 want to keep both FreeBSD and Linux.

Probably not forever.  But it could go either way.  They might tire of
FreeBSD and switch entirely to Linux ... or they might tire of Linux and
switch entirely to FreeBSD.

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Re: your mail

2005-02-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
 On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 
  [*] Kame is Japanese for turtle, or more precisely it's an English
  transliteration of the Japanese for turtle.
 
 No, it is one of the Romaji transliterations [may be the only one since 
 it is a simple word, but there are multuple systems] for the japanese 
 for turtle $B55!!(Bor $B$+$a(B
 
 The roman alphabet is one of the accepted alphabets and is used in 
 writing japanese, by japanese, with English out of the question, when 
 they cannot write kanji/hiragana/katakana.

Exactly right.   Japan has 4 alphabets (if you can truly call Kanji
an alphabet).You will often see all four used together on a sign.

jerry

 
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get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijer
Hi,

I have the following situation:

I have moved my mail services from my dedicated server to another server.  The 
MX records were updated at the DNS host to point to the other server.  Email 
from the outside is being routed correctly to the new server, but now the local 
scripts on the dedicated server are still being routed to the local accounts 
and not actually sent to the other server.

So sendmail on the first server tries to use localhost as a relay, instead of 
looking up the MX records for the domain.

Anybody knows how to solve this?

Thanks!

Gerard
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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Hexren
GM Hi,

GM I have the following situation:

GM I have moved my mail services from my dedicated server to another server.  
The MX records were updated at the DNS host to point to the other server.  
Email from the outside is being routed
GM correctly to the new server, but now the local scripts on the dedicated 
server are still being routed to the local accounts and not actually sent to 
the other server.

GM So sendmail on the first server tries to use localhost as a relay, instead 
of looking up the MX records for the domain.

GM Anybody knows how to solve this?

GM Thanks!

GM Gerard
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Quick and dirty: /etc/mail/aliases
putting in something like root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] should do the
trick. Or am I missing something ?

Hexren

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:49:55 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jacob S writes:
 
  You must be looking at a different Linux community than the one I'm
  familiar with. I thought boxed sets of Linux had gone out of retail
  stores years ago.
 
 I bought a copy of Mandrake Linux in a retail store yesterday.  I saw
 SuSE in the store, too.  Computer stores have a wider choice.

Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.

  I'm having too much fun with downloading versions and upgrading over
  the internet - yes, for free.
 
 That says a lot about the type of user you are.

True, but I still see a lot of new users on Linux e-mail lists that are
downloading it for free.

  Linspire and Redhat tend to be Windows-like, in hiding their free
  releases or not releasing them until the next version comes out,
  etc., but they're generally considered the exception in the Linux
  community.
 
 I've looked at a fair number of Linux Web sites over the past few
 days. Almost all of them seemed to be trying to sell something.  It
 was often extremely hard to find links pointing to downloadable free
 versions of anything.

So, where on www.debian.org do you see them trying to sell something?

  I understand there's some competition between FreeBSD and Linux, but
  Linux doesn't have to be considered evil just because they're not
  FreeBSD fans.
 
 It's not evil to sell software.  But it's not free software, either.

But Linux was compared to Microsoft, which would indicate that some
consider it to be giving in to evil influences.

Or we could get into the whole free-as-in-speech or free-as-in-food
debate. There is a reason that you can buy legal copies of Linspire on
E-bay for $3/each. But I definitely think it's better when it's
free-as-in-food, too. 

Jacob
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phpSysInfo output all wrong.

2005-02-23 Thread Perttu Laine
I'm running phpsysinfo 2.3 on FreeBSD 5.3 with php5. it was fine for
many weeks and now suddenly it shows everything wrong. except disk
usage and temperatures right. no network usage at all. no kernel
version, no distro name. shows uptime of 12000 days, no loads and
shows something like -12932932kB of memory in use. I tried reinstall
php and phpsysinfo and still same. What could be possibly wrong?

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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijer
No, that is not the solution. It could be, but it's not what I want.
An example:
domain: domain.com
domain.com is hosted on server B. The MX record for domain.com says that 
server A handles the mail of domain.com. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be 
handled by server A.

This works, but now on server B there runs a script that sends an e-mail to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . What SHOULD happen is that sendmail on server B looks up 
the MX record for domain.com, sees that server A handles the mail for 
domain.com and sends the mail to server A. What happens is that sendmail 
recognizes the domain as hosted on that machine and uses localhost to 
deliver the mail. It looks for user gerard (in this example), which doesn't 
exist.

I agree with you, a solution would be to set in the alias file of server B 
something like gerard: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If this was about just one 
e-mailaddress, it wouldn't be a problem, but I'm actually talking about a 
little more then one address.

So that's not a good solution for me.
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To: Gerard Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records


GM Hi,
GM I have the following situation:
GM I have moved my mail services from my dedicated server to another 
server.  The MX records were updated at the DNS host to point to the other 
server.  Email from the outside is being routed
GM correctly to the new server, but now the local scripts on the 
dedicated server are still being routed to the local accounts and not 
actually sent to the other server.

GM So sendmail on the first server tries to use localhost as a relay, 
instead of looking up the MX records for the domain.

GM Anybody knows how to solve this?
GM Thanks!
GM Gerard
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Quick and dirty: /etc/mail/aliases
putting in something like root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] should do the
trick. Or am I missing something ?
Hexren
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question about reported directory size

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Huff

huff@ dir /usr/lost+found/
total 192
drwxrwxrwt   2 root  wheel  194048 Feb 23 13:01 .
drwxr-xr-x  22 root  wheel 512 Feb 23 03:38 ..

Now I understand the 't' in the permissions ... sort of.
a) does this mean the reported directory size will never
shrink?
b) is that the actual blocks in use, or an artifact?
c) is is safe to delete and recreate the directory?


Robert Huff



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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Barniskis
Gerard Meijer wrote:
No, that is not the solution. It could be, but it's not what I want.
An example:
domain: domain.com
domain.com is hosted on server B. The MX record for domain.com says that 
server A handles the mail of domain.com. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be 
handled by server A.

This works, but now on server B there runs a script that sends an e-mail 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . What SHOULD happen is that sendmail on server B 
looks up the MX record for domain.com, sees that server A handles the 
mail for domain.com and sends the mail to server A. What happens is that 
sendmail recognizes the domain as hosted on that machine and uses 
localhost to deliver the mail. It looks for user gerard (in this 
example), which doesn't exist.

I agree with you, a solution would be to set in the alias file of server 
B something like gerard: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If this was about just one 
e-mailaddress, it wouldn't be a problem, but I'm actually talking about 
a little more then one address.

So that's not a good solution for me.
If I followed you correctly, server B *formerly* was the 
appropriate end point for mail for domain.com. If that is true, 
then on server B, the sendmail config probably indicates that mail 
destined for domain.com is delivered locally. Remove that indicator 
and it should revert to MX lookup behavior to find the appropriate 
handler for the domain. There may be multiple places in the sendmail 
config where domain.com is named for different purposes. Hunt them 
all down and kill them.

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Q: Why is top posting undesirable when replying?
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Transfering from SCSI to IDE ?

2005-02-23 Thread ali boreiri
Dear Sir :
 
I have a FreeBSD system with a squid cache installed on it on my 17 GB SCSI 
drive.
Recently I get an image of it by Norton GHOST  on a 80GB IDE drive.
Transferring was successful but when system on new IDE disk booted , after 
pimary freeBSD boot menu  boot proccess continued till an error occured in 
mounting file system and disk; and then system ask me to mount root and a 
mount prompt appeared.
Messages appears on screen are as below:
 
 
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a
setrootbyname failed
ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp
Rootmount failed:6
mount root
mount root ?
List of GEOMD Managed disk devices:
ad1s1f  ad1s1e  ad1s1d  ad1s1c  ad1s1b  ad1s1a  ad1s1  acd0 ad1 fd0
 
 
 
Now please tell me what must I do ;and refer me to a compelete step by step 
guide in mounting partition of this  IDE disk (which the image of a SCSI disk 
is on it.)and no change perform to partitions  for properly working of squid 
cache.
 
 
Thank you : Dr.A.Boreiri 




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Transfering from SCSI to IDE ?

2005-02-23 Thread ali boreiri
Dear Sir :
 
I have a FreeBSD system with a squid cache installed on it on my 17 GB SCSI 
drive.
Recently I get an image of it by Norton GHOST  on a 80GB IDE drive.
Transferring was successful but when system on new IDE disk booted , after 
pimary freeBSD boot menu  boot proccess continued till an error occured in 
mounting file system and disk; and then system ask me to mount root and a 
mount prompt appeared.
Messages appears on screen are as below:
 
 
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a
setrootbyname failed
ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp
Rootmount failed:6
mount root
mount root ?
List of GEOMD Managed disk devices:
ad1s1f  ad1s1e  ad1s1d  ad1s1c  ad1s1b  ad1s1a  ad1s1  acd0 ad1 fd0
 
 
 
Now please tell me what must I do ;and refer me to a compelete step by step 
guide in mounting partition of this  IDE disk (which the image of a SCSI disk 
is on it.)and no change perform to partitions  for properly working of squid 
cache.
 
 
Thank you : Dr.A.Boreiri 



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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Frank
* On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:52:37PM +0100 Gerard Meijer wrote:
 An example:
 
 domain: domain.com
 domain.com is hosted on server B. The MX record for domain.com says that 
 server A handles the mail of domain.com. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be 
 handled by server A.
 
 This works, but now on server B there runs a script that sends an e-mail to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . What SHOULD happen is that sendmail on server B looks 
 up the MX record for domain.com, sees that server A handles the mail for 
 domain.com and sends the mail to server A. What happens is that sendmail 
 recognizes the domain as hosted on that machine and uses localhost to 
 deliver the mail. It looks for user gerard (in this example), which doesn't 
 exist.

Somewhere, probably in /etc/mail/local-host-names, you told sendmail
that domain.com should be delivered locally.  Remove that entry and
restart sendmail.

If if was defined in /etc/mail/HOSTNAME.mc, then edit
/etc/mail/HOSTNAME.mc and restart sendmail with a make all install
restart.

You can probably find the entry with a grep domain.com /etc/mail/*.

Mark

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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijer
Hi Greg,
I'm absolutely sure that this is not the case anymore. I removed everything.
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Gerard Meijer wrote:
No, that is not the solution. It could be, but it's not what I want.
An example:
domain: domain.com
domain.com is hosted on server B. The MX record for domain.com says that 
server A handles the mail of domain.com. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be 
handled by server A.

This works, but now on server B there runs a script that sends an e-mail 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . What SHOULD happen is that sendmail on server B 
looks up the MX record for domain.com, sees that server A handles the 
mail for domain.com and sends the mail to server A. What happens is that 
sendmail recognizes the domain as hosted on that machine and uses 
localhost to deliver the mail. It looks for user gerard (in this 
example), which doesn't exist.

I agree with you, a solution would be to set in the alias file of server 
B something like gerard: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If this was about just one 
e-mailaddress, it wouldn't be a problem, but I'm actually talking about a 
little more then one address.

So that's not a good solution for me.
If I followed you correctly, server B *formerly* was the appropriate end 
point for mail for domain.com. If that is true, then on server B, the 
sendmail config probably indicates that mail destined for domain.com is 
delivered locally. Remove that indicator and it should revert to MX lookup 
behavior to find the appropriate handler for the domain. There may be 
multiple places in the sendmail config where domain.com is named for 
different purposes. Hunt them all down and kill them.

--
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Q: Why is top posting undesirable when replying?

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Re: script echo on like MS-DOS?

2005-02-23 Thread Christopher Kelley
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2005-02-22 23:32, Christopher Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Is there a simple way to cause a shell script to echo to the terminal
similar to the old MS-DOS echo on command?
   

You can do similar things with the set -x option of sh(1):
 

Thanks. Yes, I'm using sh, I forgot to mention that.  That's exactly 
what I was looking for!

Christopher
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Re: question about reported directory size

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 23), Robert Huff said:
 huff@ dir /usr/lost+found/
 total 192
 drwxrwxrwt   2 root  wheel  194048 Feb 23 13:01 .
 drwxr-xr-x  22 root  wheel 512 Feb 23 03:38 ..
 
   Now I understand the 't' in the permissions ... sort of.
   a) does this mean the reported directory size will never
   shrink?
   b) is that the actual blocks in use, or an artifact?
   c) is is safe to delete and recreate the directory?

A directory is only truncated on the first file create after a delete;
this optimizes the common rm -rf case.  Touch a dummy file in there and
check the size again.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jacob S writes:

 You obviously didn't look at Debian then.

Yes, I did.

 As to which will suit your purposes better; why not do a dual boot
 between Linux and FreeBSD? They can co-exist happily.

I can't even successfully install a single OS on this machine, much less
two.

I tried to install Mandrake an hour ago, and not only did it freeze, but
it did something that prevents my CD-ROM from being visible to the
FreeBSD install.

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Re: ssh, sftp, and public key authentication

2005-02-23 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
+++ dave [freebsd] [18-02-05 09:10 -0500]:
| Hello,
| I've got a machine i use public keys on to which i'm trying to ssh. When
| i created a key for this user i did not define a passphrase, yet i am being
| asked for one when i ssh in to the box. I use the command ssh -i
| filename.pub hostname however if i do sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'm allowed
| in no questions asked.
| Help needed!
| Thanks.
| Dave.

google for 'passworldless ssh login'

Process in short

On the Client machine:
 ssh-keygen -t dsa

~/.ssh/id_dsa and ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub are created.

 scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.ssh/authorized_keys2


From client:

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you will be logged in w/o any password.

Regards,
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jacob S writes:

 Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
 computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.

I'm pretty sure I've seen Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, and a couple
of other Linux versions in computer stores.

A few years ago, I bought my first copy of FreeBSD (4.3) in a computer
store.  Now I can't find FreeBSD anywhere; I had to burn my own CD from
a download to install 5.3.

 So, where on www.debian.org do you see them trying to sell something?

On the first page, with the ad for XS4ALL.  If you click on Getting
Debian, the first option given is purchase of the CDs.

 But Linux was compared to Microsoft, which would indicate that some
 consider it to be giving in to evil influences.

I don't think the trend towards commercialism is healthy, noble, or
altruistic, although it's understandable.  But it's a bit hypocritical
of Linux fans to claim disdain for the Microsoft-style business model
when they are following precisely in Microsoft's footsteps themselves.
Of course, this was inevitable, but the Linux crowd never understood
that.

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Re: question about reported directory size

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Huff

Dan Nelson writes:

  A directory is only truncated on the first file create after a
  delete; this optimizes the common rm -rf case.  Touch a dummy
  file in there and check the size again.

Who was that masked man?
I don't know, but he left this silver bullet.

Thanks.


Robert Huff



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Re: can't reboot after messing up my rc.conf file

2005-02-23 Thread Sandy Rutherford
 On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 06:48:33 -0800, 
 Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 12:44:55AM -0800, Sandy Rutherford wrote:
   On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:02:02 -0600, 
   Jamie Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  
   I may have missed something from the thread before I joined the list,
   but is there any reason you can't just mount the filesystems and use vi
   as you're used to? If you're getting far enough in the boot process to
   get an opportunity to interact with a shell, you should just be able to
   mount -a and vi whatever. (Or, if you want to play it safe (or if the
   system wasn't cleanly shutdown before), fsck and then mount -a)
  
  This should work fine. Although, depending on where he is in the boot
  process, / may be mounted read-only.  Do `mount -uw /' to make it
  read-write.
  
  The lesson here is that when editing any file that is even remotely
  connected to the boot process, _make_a_backup_copy_.  You can then
  simply mv the backup copy back into place should you mess up.

  Actually, Absolute BSD has a handy suggestion about using rcs for all
  important files in /etc/.  Maybe you should try looking into that.

I actually do both.  RCS is very usefull for unwinding changes to get
the system back to a previous state, should you realise that some of
your improvements weren't such a good idea afterall.  However, if
you are concerned that your changes might adversely affect the boot
process, then keeping your recovery plan as simple as possible is
highly recommended.  It doesn't get much simpler than `cp'.

Sandy
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Extracting boot sectors

2005-02-23 Thread Alejandro Pulver
Hello,

I would like to know how to extract the MBR to a file, and how to
restore it. Also I would like to know how to do the same with the
partition boot sector and OS loaders.

I think it is as follows (I remember this from somewhere):

dd if=/dev/disk/partition of=/file bs=512 count=1

But I do not know:
a) Is 512 the correct size for both (MBR and partition boot sectors)?
b) How to extract/restore the OS loader (e.g. for WinNT/2K/XP, that is
NTLDR)?
c) What alternative commands are available for doing this
(extact/restore)?

I would also like to know more about boot sectors and OS loaders. I
would appreciate some links.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Ale
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FBSD 5.3-RELEASE Samba 2.2.12

2005-02-23 Thread RA Cohen
Hi all,

I'm having one of those bite me in the arse why don't ya...
kind of problems. I recently migrated user and workstation
accounts from a FBSD 4.7 machine running Samba 2.2.8 to
different hardware running FBSD 5.3 and Samba 2.2.12 (Samba is
PDC). The machine accounts were each entered to the domain by 1)
smbpasswd -a -m MACHINENAME and 2)there are about 65 clients on
the network and I had to go around to each machine, disjoin the
units, and then re-join the domain, which the machines did with
success. A pain, but after all was done, everyone can
successfully log in to the domain. Functionality is exactly the
same as previously (A successful migration!) but here is where
I'm getting bitten in the butt --

Seems like everyone's Internet Explorer is now set to a high
security (like that's really possible with IE) -- anytime a
form is submitted, the message When you send information to the
internet, it might be possible for others to see that
information. Do you want to continue? Changing the IE setting
has no effect, nor does the checkbox to not see this warning
again...

Just to complete the picture -- we are using roaming profiles,
and wipe out the local versions during each logoff.

What the heck is going on here? Nothing has changed. The home
directories were tarred and restored maintaining permissions and
ownership. My users are getting mighty irritated with that
pop-up message. Any ideas out there at all? I've Googled to no
avail...

Thank you,
Roy A Cohen




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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Barniskis
Gerard Meijer wrote:
Hi Greg,
I'm absolutely sure that this is not the case anymore. I removed 
everything.
...
If I followed you correctly, server B *formerly* was the appropriate 
end point for mail for domain.com. If that is true, then on server 
B, the sendmail config probably indicates that mail destined for 
domain.com is delivered locally. Remove that indicator and it should 
revert to MX lookup behavior to find the appropriate handler for the 
domain. There may be multiple places in the sendmail config where 
domain.com is named for different purposes. Hunt them all down and 
kill them.
Nevertheless... the grep suggested by another poster seems 
completely appropriate. There are few other explanations than 
sendmail config error. You restarted sendmail after the config 
change, right?

Another test you could try would be to fire up nslookup on server 
B's command line. If you ask there for the MX record in question, do 
you actually get the right answer?

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clamd after upgrade to 0.83

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
After doing a portupgrade of clamd from 0.81 to 0.83, the service reports 
that it is not running using 'clamav-clamd.sh status'.

esmtp# cd /usr/local/etc
esmtp# rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ps -ax|grep clam
 781  ??  Ss 0:10.96 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
However, all seems to be fine, postfix 2.1.5, amavisd-new and clamd all 
seem to be running and Webmin reports them all as running.

Any thoughts or something I should know regarding the upgrading? I checked 
/usr/ports/UPDATING, but nothing regarding this. All conf files are 
reflecting the new settings.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 01:28 pm, you wrote:


 I can't even successfully install a single OS on this machine,
 much less two.


What kind of problems are you having with FreeBSD?  There was a 
non-specific mention of errors regarding your hard drive, but 
said everything was working ok.


 I tried to install Mandrake an hour ago, and not only did it
 freeze, but it did something that prevents my CD-ROM from being
 visible to the FreeBSD install.

Whoa...  I installed Mandrake 9 when it released and it did the 
same thing.  I thought my cd burner had fried.  When I got 
another one, it worked fine for both.  

I kept the fried one for a while and stuck it in another box I 
was putting together (just to make sure it was fried before 
throwing it away) and there was nothing wrong with it.

Glad to see it wasn't just in my head.  lol

(I like the drake, though...  It's what I usually recommend for 
people who are wanting to try something other than windows and 
don't have the knowledge (desire to learn) necessary to build up 
a system of their own).

Mike
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:46:47 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jacob S writes:
 
  Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
  computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.
 
 I'm pretty sure I've seen Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, and a couple
 of other Linux versions in computer stores.
 
 A few years ago, I bought my first copy of FreeBSD (4.3) in a computer
 store.  Now I can't find FreeBSD anywhere; I had to burn my own CD
 from a download to install 5.3.

So, FreeBSD is vulnerable to this same hypocrasy; where it is sold in
stores but still hailed as a free OS?

  So, where on www.debian.org do you see them trying to sell
  something?
 
 On the first page, with the ad for XS4ALL.  If you click on Getting
 Debian, the first option given is purchase of the CDs.

Except that's simply listing the ways you can get Debian. If you look at
the list you will notice there is not a single Debian owned organization
on there selling cds. They provide links to people that do for your
convenience. They do this as a service - without getting any kind of
reimbursement from the vendors for listing them on the Debian
website. For more details see these pages on the Debian site:

http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding

If that makes Debian non-free, then FreeBSD is non-free too (or used to
be) - when you purchased version 4.3 from a computer store. 

  But Linux was compared to Microsoft, which would indicate that some
  consider it to be giving in to evil influences.
 
 I don't think the trend towards commercialism is healthy, noble, or
 altruistic, although it's understandable.  But it's a bit hypocritical
 of Linux fans to claim disdain for the Microsoft-style business model
 when they are following precisely in Microsoft's footsteps themselves.
 Of course, this was inevitable, but the Linux crowd never understood
 that.

Except you haven't proven that Debian has a trend towards
commercialism. My point in all of this is that your generalizations of
Linux would be about like Linux users saying all of the BSDs are the
same. 

And, by the way, if you look at www.debian.org and www.freebsd.org, you
will notice that they are both owned by non-profit organizations. That's
totally different from a Microsoft-style business model.

HAND,
Jacob
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Feb 23, 2005, at 12:23 PM, Jacob S wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:46:47 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jacob S writes:
Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.
I'm pretty sure I've seen Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, and a couple
of other Linux versions in computer stores.
A few years ago, I bought my first copy of FreeBSD (4.3) in a computer
store.  Now I can't find FreeBSD anywhere; I had to burn my own CD
from a download to install 5.3.
So, FreeBSD is vulnerable to this same hypocrasy; where it is sold in
stores but still hailed as a free OS?
I think you are misunderstanding what free means.  Though I think RMS 
is a closet-communist and dislike the GPL, his description of Free is 
pretty good.

Don't think free as in Free Beer...
Chad
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Hauber writes:

 What kind of problems are you having with FreeBSD?  There was a
 non-specific mention of errors regarding your hard drive, but 
 said everything was working ok.

I mentioned the main error in a separate thread: After successfully
installing the OS, I simply cannot persuade the machine to boot from the
hard disk.  It just blanks the screen and stops.  It must be booting
_something_, because it normally puts up an error message if it cannot
find the boot information it expects.  So I presume it's passing control
to garbage read from the disk and this is halting the system silently.

If I boot from floppy, no problem.  And if I boot from the install
floppy and then enter the loader, unload the kernel, switch the current
device to my boot disk (the hard disk), and boot from the loader, it
comes up instantly.  So there is some part of the boot process that's
not working.

I installed FreeBSD with a standard MBR on both disks, and I set the
first disk to bootable, but this doesn't seem to help, although I'm
still trying.

The other problem I have is SCSI errors that generate massive streams of
console error messages, although they don't appear to be errors that
cause data loss.  I got these while moving ports onto my machine.  Now
that I think about it, I think it might be a conflict with an old ISDN
card that is still mounted in the machine ... hmm.  Anyway, that's
secondary.

 Whoa...  I installed Mandrake 9 when it released and it did the
 same thing.  I thought my cd burner had fried.  When I got 
 another one, it worked fine for both.

I fixed this, somehow.  I turned on my SCSI devices (a CD burner, a
scanner, and a tape drive), and then FreeBSD saw the IDE CD-ROM drive.
Go figure.  Actually, it seemed to see the CD-ROM at boot, but it
wouldn't see it when it asked for install media.  It sees it after boot
even with the SCSI devices turned off.  Very mysterious.

I'm sure there are no hardware problems on this machine; it has been
running flawlessly for eight years.  So anything that doesn't work is
software.

 (I like the drake, though...  It's what I usually recommend for
 people who are wanting to try something other than windows and 
 don't have the knowledge (desire to learn) necessary to build up 
 a system of their own).

I'm still quite ambivalent about it.  I keep wondering if Linux is
different enough and useful enough to be worth dedicating this machine
to it ... or if I should just continue with FreeBSD and install X on the
machine (and KDE, probably, since it seems to be popular, although I
welcome suggestions).

Which window manager is the closest to classic UNIX window managers (as
opposed to wannabe Windows products)?

-- 
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Re: clamd after upgrade to 0.83

2005-02-23 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Usually if you are running ClamAV in UNI domain socket mode,
there should be a UNIX domain socket called 'clamd' in ...
 - /var/run/clamav
Tho - this file can be configured in /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf.
If ClamAv is running in TCP/IP mode it should be possible to
test whether the server is responding by connecting to its
TCP/IP port using a telnet client ...
 - telnet localhost 3310
Robert Fitzpatrick schrieb:
After doing a portupgrade of clamd from 0.81 to 0.83, the service 
reports that it is not running using 'clamav-clamd.sh status'.

esmtp# cd /usr/local/etc
esmtp# rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ps -ax|grep clam
 781  ??  Ss 0:10.96 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
However, all seems to be fine, postfix 2.1.5, amavisd-new and clamd all 
seem to be running and Webmin reports them all as running.

Any thoughts or something I should know regarding the upgrading? I 
checked /usr/ports/UPDATING, but nothing regarding this. All conf files 
are reflecting the new settings.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jacob S writes:

 So, FreeBSD is vulnerable to this same hypocrasy; where it is sold in
 stores but still hailed as a free OS?

The FreeBSD was at an unbeatable price--I think it was only $10 or so,
just a bit more than the packaging cost.  That's not the case for Linux,
which I see going for prices well in excess of $100 ... perilously close
to the price of an OEM copy of Windows.

But the thing that disturbs me is that all of Windows was actually
written by Microsoft or licensed from someone else who wrote it, whereas
all of Linux (more or less) was written for free.  So how can Linux
distributors get away with charging $200 for software if Microsoft is
charging only slightly more?  The Linux crowd certainly didn't pay
anyone to develop any of the software they're selling.

 Except that's simply listing the ways you can get Debian.

But they list the money way first, like every other site.

 If that makes Debian non-free, then FreeBSD is non-free too (or used to
 be) - when you purchased version 4.3 from a computer store.

True.  But it was much more reasonably priced than Linux, and it was a
very good buy in consequence.

 Except you haven't proven that Debian has a trend towards
 commercialism.

Fine.  Wait and see.

 My point in all of this is that your generalizations of Linux would
 be about like Linux users saying all of the BSDs are the same.

Well, come to think of it ... it can be hard to tell the BSDs apart.

 And, by the way, if you look at www.debian.org and www.freebsd.org, you
 will notice that they are both owned by non-profit organizations. That's
 totally different from a Microsoft-style business model.

Some of the wealthiest organizations in the world are non-profit.  All
that means is that they make sure they have no money left over after
expenses (sometimes by paying high salaries to their employees).
There's nothing magic or high-minded about non-profit organizations.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:32:50 -0700
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 23, 2005, at 12:23 PM, Jacob S wrote:
 
  On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:46:47 +0100
  Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jacob S writes:
 
  Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
  computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.
 
  I'm pretty sure I've seen Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, and a
 couple of other Linux versions in computer stores.
 
  A few years ago, I bought my first copy of FreeBSD (4.3) in a
 computer store.  Now I can't find FreeBSD anywhere; I had to burn my
 own CD from a download to install 5.3.
 
  So, FreeBSD is vulnerable to this same hypocrasy; where it is sold
  in stores but still hailed as a free OS?
 
 I think you are misunderstanding what free means.  Though I think
 RMS is a closet-communist and dislike the GPL, his description of
 Free is pretty good.
 
 Don't think free as in Free Beer...

I agree. And if you read my previous e-mails you will see I briefly
mention the free-as-in-food and free-as-in-speech argument. On the other
hand, Anthony appears to be arguing that it's hypocritical for Linux
users to call Linux free when they really mean free-as-in-speech.

Jacob
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Feb 23, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On Feb 23, 2005, at 12:23 PM, Jacob S wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:46:47 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jacob S writes:
Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.
I'm pretty sure I've seen Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, and a 
couple
of other Linux versions in computer stores.

A few years ago, I bought my first copy of FreeBSD (4.3) in a 
computer
store.  Now I can't find FreeBSD anywhere; I had to burn my own CD
from a download to install 5.3.
So, FreeBSD is vulnerable to this same hypocrasy; where it is sold in
stores but still hailed as a free OS?
I think you are misunderstanding what free means.  Though I think 
RMS is a closet-communist and dislike the GPL, his description of 
Free is pretty good.

Don't think free as in Free Beer...

As a follow up
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
I am not saying I agree or disagree with everything written, but it 
gives a good idea of what Free means as in Free Software.

Chad
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:46 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Jacob S writes:
  Good. I'm glad to see the average Windows user looking around the
  computer store still gets to see an alternative once in a while.

 I'm pretty sure I've seen Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, and a
 couple of other Linux versions in computer stores.

 A few years ago, I bought my first copy of FreeBSD (4.3) in a
 computer store.  Now I can't find FreeBSD anywhere; I had to burn my
 own CD from a download to install 5.3.

You can still find FreeBSD at Fry's Electronics and MicroCenter.  I 
don't know if CompUSA still carries it.  I have mixed feelings about 
FreeBSD 5.0-5.2.1 being sold in the retail market.


  So, where on www.debian.org do you see them trying to sell
  something?

 On the first page, with the ad for XS4ALL.  If you click on Getting
 Debian, the first option given is purchase of the CDs.

  But Linux was compared to Microsoft, which would indicate that some
  consider it to be giving in to evil influences.

 I don't think the trend towards commercialism is healthy, noble, or
 altruistic, although it's understandable.  But it's a bit
 hypocritical of Linux fans to claim disdain for the Microsoft-style
 business model when they are following precisely in Microsoft's
 footsteps themselves. Of course, this was inevitable, but the Linux
 crowd never understood that.

This oversimplification is so flawed that I'm not sure how to best 
respond...

...but I'll try:;-)

First, Microsoft is a monopoly that has been found, in court, to have 
used unethical business practices.  Second, the motivation behind the 
creation of Windows focused more on a marketing plan than good design 
principles (you know: security and stuff).  I see no similarity between 
Microsoft and Open Source OS vendors on either of these points.

Third, the beauty of capitalism is that good can come from profit 
motive. (See:  Adam Smith's invisible hand.)  Let's face it, without 
commercialism, Linux development would not have benefited from the 
likes of IBM or HP.  Likewise, without commercialism, there would be 
very few, if any, *BSD or Linux developers performing open source 
development for a living.  The money has to come from somewhere.

Fourth, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into developing and 
packaging an operating system and its related applications.  I am happy 
to pay for the convenience of an operating system on a DVD.  It's only 
fair that the vendor be able to recover cost.  If earning a little 
profit motivates them to continue providing a great service, all the 
better.

Andrew Gould
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Laurence Sanford
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Does that include X and KDE?  I'm getting wild SCSI errors on FreeBSD
trying to install stuff, and I don't really know what that means, but it
doesn't appear to be corrupting anything, and it seems to be installing
software.
 

Well, I don't use KDE because I don't particularly like heavyweight 
software unless I need it, although it has been several years since I 
looked at either that or Gnome, and I have seriously considered several 
times recently installing both of them to see what they've been up to. 
As for X, it should be quite painless with the possible exception of 
getting the config (XF86Config) right - the first time I did it, it 
caused me much swearing and gnashing of teeth, but here recently it's 
gotten so painless  that I don't really remember it very well. That 
could be because it's gotten much easier, or because I've gotten used to 
it, the truth probly landing somewhere in the middle.
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