Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:58:05 -0800 Yuri wrote: > I guess that's a side effect of /compat/linux not being owned by root. Yes, you've found the root of the problem. Chown it to root:wheel and all should be fine. -- WBR, bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
lynx failure....
Guys, this is what I see both here on my desktop, and on a remote server, magnesium.net. Using lynx: Looking up www.thought.org Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.thought.org/ p6 0:03 [3] Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and web server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? thans, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: lynx failure....
Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, this is what I see both here on my desktop, and on a > remote server, magnesium.net. Using lynx: > > > Looking up www.thought.org > Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. > > lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.thought.org/ > p6 0:03 > [3] > > > Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and > web server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? > A Dig output from my location: Your DNS is somewhat screwed up. ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P1 <<>> www.thought.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 21126 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.thought.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.thought.org.38299 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: thought.org.10700 IN SOA ethic.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2009120801 10800 3600 604800 38400 ;; Query time: 1 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.10.1#53(192.168.10.1) ;; WHEN: Sat Dec 12 03:32:48 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 110 I'm certainly no DNS expert. I also have no clue as to how you are configuring your DNS. So any comments will be along the lines of text editing zone files for BIND. Here is an example of a zone file for my internal LAN (a public zone will have different information, but the structure should be similar enough for example purposes. $TTL3600 test.zip. IN SOA server.test.zip. testu...@test.zip. ( 20090614; Serial 10800 ; Refresh 3600; Retry 604800 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum ;DNS Servers IN NS server.test.zip. ;MX Records IN MX 1 server.test.zip. ;Hosts server IN A 192.168.10.1 workstation IN A 192.168.10.2 testbed IN A 192.168.10.3 ;nicknames static IN A 192.168.10.3 -- Notice the SOA starts with the domain, here it would be thought.org. See the "test.zip." in the above? Period included. Try and use an "A" record instead of CNAME. In any case, you will need an "A" record which contains the IP address of your server. In the Dig above there is nothing to indicate any IP address for the hostname you are trying to resolve. This is just a quickie to get you looking in maybe the right direction; there are others on the list who have much more smarts about DNS than myself. I'm just around at odd hours, so take a look and wait a bit for the smarter people. Also remember when you make changes update the Serial number so zone transfers will propagate, and remember the TTL, refresh, retry, etc parameters will mean any change will take time to propagate. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: lynx failure....
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, this is what I see both here on my desktop, and on a remote > server, magnesium.net. Using lynx: > > Looking up www.thought.org > Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. > > lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.thought.org/ > p6 0:03 > > Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and web > server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? Are you sure DNS for the "thought.org" domain works? keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ host www.thought.org Host www.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
> but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great > evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple combination of > uid/pwd. /usr/ports/security/sshguard-* randy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found!
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Randi Harper wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 286, Issue 12, Message 7 > > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:51:50 -0800 Randi Harper > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Derek (freebsd lists) > <48225...@razorfever.net> wrote: > [..] > > > I made the memstick.img by dd as per the release page on my Thinkpad > > > T23. It only sports USB 1.0 ports, and while I was confident of the dd > > > (which took ~25m at ~600kB/s), I didn't really expect a 2002 laptop to > > > boot from the image, but on seeing the USB stick show up in its BIOS and > > > promoting it in the disk boot order, it did! Never underestimate IBM .. > [..] > > > So .. booted into sysinstall, fdisk and label ad0s4, leave boot0 as was, > > > committed that much after two earlier attempts failed due to the below, > > > quit to reboot, checked the labelling, redid the mount points, all ok. > > > > > > Picked pretty much all distributions from custom install, then of course > > > had to select media. Picked USB - and got about what Derek did, no USB > > > disk found. > > > > > > Very long story short: googled for ages and found a forum thread about > > > this very problem, in which someone suggested Options / Rescan Devices > > > then trying again. The OP there said it didn't work for him, but it > > > sure did for me! After knowing that, the install went pretty smoothly, > > > modulo not getting fc-10 to install by FTP, but that's another issue.. > > > > > > And just now, prompted by this thread I tried selecting Fixit, to again > > > get what Derek did. And again, Options / Rescan Devices fixed it for > > > me. Maybe it will for Derek and/or maybe provide another clue? Maybe > > > sysinstall could try a device rescan itself in that circumstance? > > > > This is a known issue. It would be possible to write in a hack to fix > > this problem that would be fairly quick to implement, but sysinstall > > already has one too many bandaids in place. I'd rather take a little > > bit of extra time and fix the underlying problem, especially since > > there is this workaround (forcing a device rescan) that seems to work > > for users in the meanwhile. > > At best it's an 'unknown known' :) Except for this present thread, my > 'googling for ages' found nothing in FreeBSD lists about it. I was so > close to giving up until I could go somewhere to burn a DVD, by then. > > I appreciate your disinclination to extend that message in sysinstall, > it's been "about to die" for so long it's no longer funny, still it > would have saved me half a day, and I'm sure I won't be the last person > to run into this. I guess I should file a PR with a patch .. If you want to supply a patch that changes the error message in not finding a valid USB device, go for it. I'll push it through. One of the ideas I've been kicking around is consolidating some of the menu options and having sysinstall look for valid media on all removable devices (USB/CDROM/floppy), with the option to manually set it still available in the Options menu. I'm curious to see what other people think of this first, though. It does "dumb down" the install, but it still gives advanced users the option of specifying media. If you want to chuckle, take a look at sysinstall's devices.c and how it defines a valid USB device (hint: think DD). :) > > > sysinstall was written back in the good 'ol days of pre-devfs and > > hasn't been updated much since. When it first runs, it does a device > > scan - that is, there's this really ugly data structure of all > > possible devices and a description/limit for each. So, just for > > example (and I'm not checking the code, so this value is probably > > wrong), say there's an entry for 'fxp' that is a type network with a > > limit of 16 devices - it's going to poke the system looking for fxp0, > > fxp1, ..., fxp15. It's doing this for every single network card, all > > possible disk devices, everything. Back in the day when computers were > > slower, this process could take a while, so it only happened once > > unless the user selected it again. > > But now, a rescan on my T23 was quite fast, and it's only a P3 1133MHz. I wish we could just disregard all the limitations of older hardware (this would make life so much easier!), but the fact remains that there are people that still install freebsd on ridiculously old computers. The smallest group tends to be the most vocal, or so I've found. > > > Needless to say, this is extremely inefficient (sysinstall code has to > > be changed any time a new driver is added, too!) and there's a lot of > > better ways to do this. It's very easy to pull a list of network > > cards, disks, etc, but the work in moving away from that ugly data > > structure is no small job. Right now, much of my time is being taken > > up in trying to
Re: "unable to connect to host"....
Hi Gary On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Regarding the sage of the migration to a new server, I thought > things were working when I went to bed. Turns out this was > only because I had the old server going too. (I did some edit > on my new web server but the chances didn't show up. Only the > old server was replying.) > > Now, using lynx, I get the err that it 'Can't connect to > host'. The new server is 10.47.0.230, but dig is still > seeing my old server, 10.47.0.240. > > Any ideas why lynx cannot connect outside the server itself?? Have a look in /etc/hosts (and /etc/resolv.conf to be save) for explicit entries. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
How to build VLC port
Sorry if this is well-known. I have googled but came up with nothing. (I am relatively new to FreeBSD.) I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am trying to build VLC with # cd /usr/ports # make install clean But I get the message: ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. *** Error code 1 I tried a # make config but cannot find out how to turn off the dirac depends (is it possible?). Thanks for any pointers. -Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: A question about yell on a laptop
Polytropon skrev: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:20:42 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: I have sound working but PC-speaker doesn't seem to be present. Do you have "device SPEAKER" in your kernel config, or have you loaded the appropriate kernel module? You can alway check it with something like # echo "cdefg" > /dev/speaker Thanks for your answers. Yes, I do have the /boot/loader.conf speaker_load="YES" That's what troubles me, I'm used to use Yell so I'm certain that my config is ok. One thing I've been made aware of is that a laptop computer maybe do not have a "speaker". Only a sound card will produce sound in the speakers. Any comments on that? /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to build VLC port
> > Sorry if this is well-known. I have googled but came up with nothing. (I > > am relatively new to FreeBSD.) > > > > I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am trying to build VLC with > > > > # cd /usr/ports > > You mean ../multimedia/vlc ? Yes, indeed. Sorry. > > # make install clean > > I'm building it now. > > > But I get the message: > > > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > I tried a > > > > # make config > > Try make rmconfig Thanks. I tried this (make rmconfig) and still got the same error: == toutatis# make install clean ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc. == Any other ideas? -Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to build VLC port
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:49:06 +0100 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Richard Mace: > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I tried a > > > > # make config > > Try make rmconfig You also need to remove the dirac package if it's already installed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to build VLC port
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Richard Mace wrote: Sorry if this is well-known. I have googled but came up with nothing. (I am relatively new to FreeBSD.) I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am trying to build VLC with # cd /usr/ports # make install clean But I get the message: ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. *** Error code 1 I tried a # make config but cannot find out how to turn off the dirac depends (is it possible?). The multimedia/vlc Makefile automatically enables dirac use if libdirac_decoder.a is already installed. You can override that, but not through the menu options: make -DWITHOUT_DIRAC install clean Or you can uninstall the multimedia/dirac port (if nothing is using it) before installing vlc. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to build VLC port
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:49:06 +0100
>
> Bernt Hansson wrote:
> > Richard Mace:
> > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac.
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried a
> > >
> > > # make config
> >
> > Try make rmconfig
>
> You also need to remove the dirac package if it's already installed.
Thanks for the hint. Actually, you don't need such a drastic measure, it
seems.
I looked into the Makefile and found:
.if (defined(WITH_DIRAC) || exists(${LOCALBASE}/lib/libdirac_decoder.a)) &&
!defined(WITHOUT_DIRAC)
BROKEN= doesn't build with dirac
I did a
# make -DWITHOUT_DIRAC
and it seems to be building.
As I type this I see confirmation of the solution above from Warren Block
(Thanks!)
-Richard
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Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:51 -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: > Well, yes, except this assumes one has access to the sysadmin... Physical access. It's hard to exploit a sysadmin by social engineering because he hardly has any friends. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:04:22 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, December 11, 2009 07:59:00 -0600 Glen Barber > wrote: > > > > I suppose this falls under the "works for me" category - I haven't > > ever used HAL on FreeBSD. > > > > I have, and I would say that it's not quite ready for primetime. So I'm back > to manual configuration and happy about it. Paul, you're mentioning an important choice the developer of an OS or the distributor of a specific software compilation has to make: (a) No configuration (equals user configuration) This choice makes sure that the user can set all parameters to fit his particular needs. He isn't hindered to do so. (b) Pre-configuration With this choice, the one who set the defaults has a very high responsibility. In most cases, a certain target group is assumed, and so the parameters are defined. This may lead to the problem that the result doesn't fit in other settings. (c) Auto-configuration This often works, but involves a certain overhead that does the automatic detection. Furthermore, not everything gets detected correctly, or detected at all. The result can be an only partially configured system, even being unusable. This is the case especially with hardware that is not up to date, or just too new. Hardware that doesn't conform to existing and assumed standards leads to the same results. In the past, X was defaulting to (a), giving you the choice of (c) by command, and you could modify its result in case of errors. I would say this was the case with XFree86 and early X.org (when e. g. I could run my screen by xorg.conf at 1400x1050, now I need xrandr in .xinitrc to do so because X only allows 1152x864). Overall speed is another topic, of course. The FreeBSD OS, on the other hand, follows approach (a) and aids the user with (b) - the defaults are intendedly and wisely chosen, so they usually don't cause problems, because they don't assume something stupid, like "The user will want to have a web server included, and enabled by default." :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8
On Friday 11 December 2009 04:56:39 pm you wrote: > Well, you now need to either select X during install or install > it from ports after the installation. > > jerry > I thought KDE4 would have caused a dependency on X, but I guess since there have been two choices, XFree and Xorg, you have to manually select one or the other. Thanks for the answer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse'
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > Normally, the user shouldn't have to create XML files. If they intended to use another than default english keyboard layout... well, creating the correspoinding XML file as shown in the handbook seemed to be the way to go. In the past, things were centralized in xorg.conf for all the options that would be interesting to the X server: Screen settings, fonts, mouse, keyboard. Now, those settings seem to be non-existent (autodetected) or scattered around into config files of different subsystems. Getting a three button mouse (with middle mouse for wheel functionality) would be an interesting task, too, awaiting my attention soon. :-) > The new hal-0.5.13_12 solves some serious problems I had with the > earlier version. Maybe problems other people had too, but there haven't > been any posts about someone trying HAL again and seeing if it works > better now. I'm confident that things like HAL and DBUS make the "plug and play" experience much better in the future, especially with the big desktop environments (KDE, Gnome, Xfce). Still, I'm a bit surprised that such functionalities have been present in times where HAL and DBUS didn't exist yet... but maybe due to the fact that more and more stuff is accessed via USB, and those USB devices often aren't interested in standards and specifications, the use of HAL and DBUS (and maybe others, such as CUPS) gets more and more unavoidable. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD
> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:52:50 +0200 > From: ly4uk Root > Subject: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <1260568370.99298.49.ca...@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain > cleaning), but drive is still squeaking. Now I'm using > freebsd 8.0, not > fresh install, got it from seven release (at almost year > ago) by > tracking stable branch. All noise came exactly in one > reboot while > upgrading to 8.0-RC2. > So, it would be interesting to get Your answer about > possible > solutions(if You know such) or maybe some comments(if > don't). I will be > very happy for that, many excuse for disturbance. > Now, this post is interesting. I'm sure many people with a software background may be tempted to write this report off as completely implausible. The truth is even "non-moving" parts such as inductors and possibly capacitors can move in response to an applied signal. For example, my ADSL modem with no moving parts makes an audible hissing noise louder than the (80mm) fan noise of my BSD server. I have no idea what would be causing this in 8.0-RC2, but I can suggest what to look for: anything polling the drive in the audible frequency range (20 to 20 thousand times per second). Another possiblity is any action the repeats at that rate, but was not present in ealier versions. The timer interrupt is in that range, but other systems like GNU/Linux (before the tickless kernel) and Windows use a similar timer. To the original poster: you say this is a laptop. How do you know the noise is coming from the hard drive and not some other component like the speakers/Network card/fan? Regards, James Phillips __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware
I found posts about this and a possible solution is to disable APIC by adding hint.apic.0.disabled=1 to /boot/loader.conf. But after doing so, it booted to the mountroot prompt and would not recognize my ufs:/dev/da0s1a partition when tried. I went to FixIt and removed the line from the loader.conf file and it boots fine. I do have some other things to help the pgsql db on this server in the loader.conf file, are they interfering? pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.ipc.semmni=32 kern.ipc.semmns=512 hint.apic.0.disabled=1 The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this issue? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: A question about yell on a laptop
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:43 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > That's what troubles me, I'm used to use Yell so I'm certain that my > config is ok. One thing I've been made aware of is that a laptop > computer maybe do not have a "speaker". Only a sound card will produce > sound in the speakers. Any comments on that? It's quite possible that your laptop doesn't have the "PC speaker functionality". Traditionally, the PC speaker was completely independant from any sound cards. It even was present when no sound card did exist. Early laptops also included such a speaker. More modern laptops then included a sound card and the speaker (three speakers internally), but quicky the PC speaker got removed, and access to its functionality is provided through the sound card, offering a kind of "PC speaker API". And maybe this "PC speaker API" isn't present on your laptop anymore. Does dmesg show any "speaker" lines, such as this? speaker0: port 0x61 on acpi0 And even if it is shown this way, it doesn't imply that the "PC speaker API" of the sound card is handling the corresponding calls. Finally, and maybe you've already checked it, what is the mixser setting for the PC speaker channel of the sound card, if it does exist? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:24:29 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On December 12, 2009 10:31:59 AM -0600 Polytropon > wrote: > > > > The FreeBSD OS, on the other hand, follows approach (a) and > > aids the user with (b) - the defaults are intendedly and > > wisely chosen, so they usually don't cause problems, because > > they don't assume something stupid, like "The user will want > > to have a web server included, and enabled by default." :-) > > > > Or the user can't possibly maintain the server without a GUI > interface.. Oh yes, I just forgot that it's common corporate guideline to have the users maintain the server. :-) > I have FreeBSD servers that have 30 ports installed. My desktop has 714. > It should be up to me what runs on the box, not the manufacturer. But finally, that's what "average users" are expecting. I completely agree with you. Maybe it's some work needed to get exactly what you want, but finally, you GOT it, and without the need to install things you do not use, occupying disk space and needing your attention. This situation - being up to date, especially in regards of security - is very important on servers. > I don't > need a ton of cruft to run a single application that does some sort of > task for me. For such a situation - and if you really want it - PC-BSD is the right choice. Still it's FreeBSD "under the hood" that lets you solve problems and correct non-working things by yourself, instead of just claiming "that's not possible" or "not supported". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8
On Fri 2009-12-11 16:57:06 UTC-0500, Steven Friedrich (free...@insightbb.com) wrote: > I installed FreeBSD to another partition, so I could check it out. > I selected All sources and binaries and KDE4. > > When I tried startx, it complained that it didn't exist. > It's just a script, so I copied it over from my 7.2p5 partition. > Now it complains that xinit doesn't exist. > > Why didn't these two get laid-down by the install?? The dependencies for KDE4 probably don't go as far as requiring an X server. Some machines run headless and so don't require an X server (what startx runs) to be installed to run X apps. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0500, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I thought KDE4 would have caused a dependency on X, but I guess since there > have been two choices, XFree and Xorg, you have to manually select one or the > other. It is possible to run XFree86 - the X that "just works" (TM)? I'm not sure many programs will run on it, because the dependencies refer to xorg-stuff-1.2.3... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
amdtemp problem
Hi to all; Up to amd64 8-RC3, amdtemp correctly reported the temperature of my phenom processor(s). From 8-RELEASE on (i'm on STABLE now), the temperature readings starts at 37C, dropping to 0 in about 2 minutes, and there it stays. I had saved the /usr/src/sys/dev/amdtemp/amdtemp.c file from the 8-RC3 file and compared it to the STABLE version, and they are the same, so I figured something changed elsewhere. Would anyone have a hint to where I should look into to make it work again? Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Reinstalling Video Driver in 8.0-RELEASE....
I have successfully upgraded 7.1-RELEASE TO 8.0-RELEASE and have successfully installed XFCE and Opera etc on VirtualBox 3.0.x... The issue is that at time of FreeBSD installation, I forgot to set my (Virtualbox) video card with 3D acceleration and with a good amount of memory. I have re-adjusted the Virtualbox settings with 3D acceleration and 64MB of memory. XFCE is currently running at 800x600 resolution, but does not give me an option for any larger resolution. How do I go about reconfiguring my video card in FreeBSD 8.0, so I can run XFCE at 1280x720? Thanks for coming out! Diego ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8
2009/12/12 andrew clarke : > On Fri 2009-12-11 16:57:06 UTC-0500, Steven Friedrich (free...@insightbb.com) > wrote: > >> I installed FreeBSD to another partition, so I could check it out. >> I selected All sources and binaries and KDE4. >> >> When I tried startx, it complained that it didn't exist. >> It's just a script, so I copied it over from my 7.2p5 partition. >> Now it complains that xinit doesn't exist. >> >> Why didn't these two get laid-down by the install?? > > The dependencies for KDE4 probably don't go as far as requiring an X > server. Some machines run headless and so don't require an X server > (what startx runs) to be installed to run X apps. Yeah, it'd be a _royal_ pain if KDE and GNOME depended on an X server. It'd defeat the whole client-server relationship! Sorry it's confusing for people who wouldn't use it like that Also, please don't use XFree86! It's defunct, and has an obnoxious licence. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman : >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 + >> From: Matthew Seaman >> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org >> >> Polytropon wrote: >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." >> > wrote: >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed >> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count >> >> dragonflyBSD) >> > >> > VMS would be #0, then? :-) >> >> I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > many are networked. > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > TECO.) > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > I could not utter the word.) Wow, I didn't know your side don't use that word... I thought I knew about all the stereotypically British ones! Do you guys have any curses or insults at all??? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware
On Sat 2009-12-12 12:06:18 UTC-0500, Robert Fitzpatrick (rob...@webtent.com) wrote: > pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf > kern.ipc.semmni=32 > kern.ipc.semmns=512 > hint.apic.0.disabled=1 According to the loader.conf man page these should all be in the format: kern.ipc.semmni="32" kern.ipc.semmns="512" hint.apic.0.disabled="1" I don't know if this matters. I'm not sure hint.apic.0.disabled is valid for 7.2. sysctl -a doesn't list this variable on my machine. Maybe it's only available on some machines. > The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with > an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this > issue? Can you use ntpd? Regards Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken
--On December 12, 2009 10:31:59 AM -0600 Polytropon wrote: The FreeBSD OS, on the other hand, follows approach (a) and aids the user with (b) - the defaults are intendedly and wisely chosen, so they usually don't cause problems, because they don't assume something stupid, like "The user will want to have a web server included, and enabled by default." :-) Or the user can't possibly maintain the server without a GUI interface.. I have FreeBSD servers that have 30 ports installed. My desktop has 714. It should be up to me what runs on the box, not the manufacturer. I don't need a ton of cruft to run a single application that does some sort of task for me. Even the webservers I maintain have less than 60 ports installed. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ** WARNING: Check the headers before replying ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware
On 12/12/2009 12:30 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I found posts about this and a possible solution is to disable APIC by adding hint.apic.0.disabled=1 to /boot/loader.conf. But after doing so, it booted to the mountroot prompt and would not recognize my ufs:/dev/da0s1a partition when tried. I went to FixIt and removed the line from the loader.conf file and it boots fine. I do have some other things to help the pgsql db on this server in the loader.conf file, are they interfering? pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.ipc.semmni=32 kern.ipc.semmns=512 hint.apic.0.disabled=1 Add kern.hz="100" to loader.conf. - Max Thanks for the suggestion, but i added to the loader.conf file, but the kernel would not even load then, let alone getting to any prompt including mountroot :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware
On 12/12/2009 12:59 PM, andrew clarke wrote: On Sat 2009-12-12 12:06:18 UTC-0500, Robert Fitzpatrick (rob...@webtent.com) wrote: pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.ipc.semmni=32 kern.ipc.semmns=512 hint.apic.0.disabled=1 According to the loader.conf man page these should all be in the format: kern.ipc.semmni="32" kern.ipc.semmns="512" hint.apic.0.disabled="1" I don't know if this matters. I'm not sure hint.apic.0.disabled is valid for 7.2. sysctl -a doesn't list this variable on my machine. Maybe it's only available on some machines. The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this issue? Can you use ntpd? Regards Andrew I'm pulling from a time server now every hour, keeps it from getting behind too much. Perhaps that is what I'll end up doing, loading the ntp server, I guess that would keep it up to date better? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Question regarding getifaddrs
I use this function to retrieve a list of network interfaces on a system. This works well enough with one exception--here seems to be multiple entries for each of the interfaces, and the data in the duplicate entries isn't the same. What is the proper way to filter the list of structures returned by getifaddrs? Is there a better way to get this same information? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse'
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: Normally, the user shouldn't have to create XML files. If they intended to use another than default english keyboard layout... well, creating the correspoinding XML file as shown in the handbook seemed to be the way to go. I had thought about putting a footnote about that, but it was already too long. Also, I don't know about non-English keyboards. Maybe there's a mechanism in hal to detect preferred keyboard layout from the LANG setting. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 12/12/2009 12:30 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I found posts about this and a possible solution is to disable APIC by >>> adding hint.apic.0.disabled=1 to /boot/loader.conf. But after doing so, >>> it >>> booted to the mountroot prompt and would not recognize my ufs:/dev/da0s1a >>> partition when tried. I went to FixIt and removed the line from the >>> loader.conf file and it boots fine. I do have some other things to help >>> the >>> pgsql db on this server in the loader.conf file, are they interfering? >>> >>> pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf >>> kern.ipc.semmni=32 >>> kern.ipc.semmns=512 >>> hint.apic.0.disabled=1 >>> >> >> Add kern.hz="100" to loader.conf. >> >> - Max >> > > Thanks for the suggestion, but i added to the loader.conf file, but the > kernel would not even load then, let alone getting to any prompt including > mountroot :( > I've never encountered that problem. I have two VMWare servers running 7.2, and this is the only way to get semi-accurate time keeping. You still have to run ntpd to keep the clock from drifting. Maybe remove the other settings from loader.conf and try again with just this one line? If the kernel still doesn't load, what messages do you see on the screen? - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Reinstalling Video Driver in 8.0-RELEASE....
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Diego Montalvo wrote: I have successfully upgraded 7.1-RELEASE TO 8.0-RELEASE and have successfully installed XFCE and Opera etc on VirtualBox 3.0.x... The issue is that at time of FreeBSD installation, I forgot to set my (Virtualbox) video card with 3D acceleration and with a good amount of memory. I have re-adjusted the Virtualbox settings with 3D acceleration and 64MB of memory. XFCE is currently running at 800x600 resolution, but does not give me an option for any larger resolution. How do I go about reconfiguring my video card in FreeBSD 8.0, so I can run XFCE at 1280x720? No experience with VirtualBox, but resolution is a function of the monitor. If VirtualBox doesn't pass the real monitor's resolution through to the emulated machine or let you set a size for an emulated monitor, you'll have to set it in xorg.conf. Probably with entries in both Monitor and Screen sections. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SMB shares vs. FreeBSD8
On Saturday 12 December 2009 01:28:59 Steven Friedrich wrote: > My SMB share, a 320GB WD NetCenter, fails to mount because the rl ethernet > isn't up yet. I dual-boot 7.2 and 8.0. Try changing ifconfig_xxx="DHCP" to "SYNCDHCP", or add synchronous_dhclient="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. - Pieter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
On Fri 11 Dec 2009 at 20:59:57 PST Robert Huff wrote: Ulf Zimmermann writes: Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based inventory/quote/sales app. Ca _lot_ of small businesses have something similar. And why not? There's no need for any multi-user, multi-processing GUIness in those environments. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Mutt and openssl from port
Hi,
7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to pop3s.
openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package
(in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf:
WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes
and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base:
~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt
/usr/local/bin/mutt:
libncursesw.so.7 => /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000)
libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000)
libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x2819)
libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000)
libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000)
libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000)
Then I patched /usr/ports/mail/mutt/Makefile :
CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \
- --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
+ --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
but got the same. I suppose that OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE doesn't work:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065565.html
What can I do?
Thanks!
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Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse'
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > I had thought about putting a footnote about that, but it was already > too long. Also, I don't know about non-English keyboards. Maybe > there's a mechanism in hal to detect preferred keyboard layout from the > LANG setting. But if LANG isn't set, and LC_* settings differ? I think detecting the keyboard layout from the keyboard itself is not possible at all (how should it?). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse'
2009/12/12 Polytropon : > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST), Warren Block > wrote: >> I had thought about putting a footnote about that, but it was already >> too long. Also, I don't know about non-English keyboards. Maybe >> there's a mechanism in hal to detect preferred keyboard layout from the >> LANG setting. > > But if LANG isn't set, and LC_* settings differ? I think > detecting the keyboard layout from the keyboard itself is > not possible at all (how should it?). Yeah -- for instance, my LANG and all LC_* variables are set to en_US.UTF-8, so guess what my keyboard layout is? Yes, it is "us" and "cz_qwerty". When I was briefly using HAL, it took a lot of cursing to tell HAL that I want to have a second layout and that I want to be able to switch layouts using a keyboard shortuct. Using xorg.conf it is ridiculously easy. ~ Ondra ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
> 2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman : > >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 + > >> From: Matthew Seaman > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org > >> > >> Polytropon wrote: > >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > >> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't > >> >> count dragonflyBSD) > >> > > >> > VMS would be #0, then? :-) > >> > >> I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > > many are networked. > > > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. > > > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > > TECO.) > > > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > > I could not utter the word.) > > Wow, I didn't know your side don't use that word... I thought I knew > about all the stereotypically British ones! > > Do you guys have any curses or insults at all??? > > Chris > I ran a radio show in the states - the language restrictions there ww were they strict!! David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
DNS problems at thought.org [was: Re: lynx failure....]
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:21:15 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:01:47AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
>>> Using lynx:
>>>
>>> Looking up www.thought.org
>>> Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org.
>>> Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
>>>
>>> Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and web
>>> server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here?
>>
>> Are you sure DNS for the "thought.org" domain works?
>>
>> keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ host www.thought.org
>> Host www.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>> keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$
>
> The more I think about it, no, I'm not sure. The guy who set up my
> new DNS was using the named in ports while I was using the one in
> /usr/sbin.
That shouldn't be a problem. Both bind versions should be able to serve
your zone files correctly.
When you see 'weird' DNS errors from one place but they seem to magically
disappear if you perform the same query from another place, it is _very_
often a good indication that there is _somewhere_ a stale SOA record and a
stale copy of your zone files. Tracking down where the stale SOA record is
cached may be a bit of work, but it's definitely doable...
The name servers registered for your domain at `thought.org' are:
: $ host -t ns thought.org 2>&1 | expand | fgrep 'name server' | \
: awk '{print $NF}'
: a.ns.celestial.com.
: ns1.localhostservices.net.
: b.ns.celestial.com.
: d.ns.celestial.com.
: ns2.secondary.com.
: ns1.thought.org.
: c.ns.celestial.com.
: $
The IPv4 addresses of these hosts seem to be:
: $ host -t ns thought.org 2>&1 | expand | fgrep 'name server' | \
: awk '{print $NF}' | \
: while read name ; do \
: addrs=$( host "${name}" 2>&1 | fgrep 'has address' | \
: awk '{print $NF}' | sort ); \
: echo "${name} ${addrs}" ; \
: done | tee thought.org-ns.txt
: a.ns.celestial.com. 192.136.111.41
: ns1.localhostservices.net. 69.55.236.116
: ns1.thought.org. 209.180.213.210
: ns2.secondary.com. 198.133.199.4
: c.ns.celestial.com. 192.136.111.43
: b.ns.celestial.com. 192.136.111.42
: d.ns.celestial.com. 65.255.106.208
: $
So there are seven (7) different name servers that should have the same SOA
record and the same version of your zone file. How many of them *do* have
the same version though?
: keram...@kobe:~$ while read nshost nsip ; do \
: echo "${nshost} [${nsip}] =>" ; \
: dig "@${nsip}" thought.org soa 2>&1 | expand | \
: fgrep ' SOA ' | sed -e 's/.* SOA[ ]*//' ; \
: echo ; \
: done < thought.org-ns.txt
:
: a.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.41] =>
: aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800
38400
:
: ns1.localhostservices.net. [69.55.236.116] =>
: ethic.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2009120801 10800 3600 604800 38400
:
: ns1.thought.org. [209.180.213.210] =>
: ethic.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2009120801 10800 3600 604800 38400
:
: ns2.secondary.com. [198.133.199.4] =>
:
: c.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.43] =>
: aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800
38400
:
: b.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.42] =>
: aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800
38400
:
: d.ns.celestial.com. [65.255.106.208] =>
: aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800
38400
:
: keram...@kobe:~$
>From this output you can now see that:
* There is at least one name server in your NS list that does not have a
SOA record at _all_ for your domain (ns2.secondary.com)
* There are four name servers that have stale copy of your zone file from
last year (a.ns.celestial.com, b.ns.celestial.com, c.ns.celestial.com,
and d.ns.celestial.com).
* There are two name servers that appear to have a copy from 2009-12-08
(ns1.thought.org and ns1.localhostservices.net)
Trying to resolve `www.thought.org' through each one of these name servers,
to find the ones that cause some of the DNS queries to fail, shows the
following:
: $ while read nshost nsip ; do \
: echo "${nshost} [${nsip}] =>" ; \
: dig "@${nsip}" www.thought.org a | expand | \
: grep '^www\.thought\.org' ; \
: echo ; \
: done < thought.org-ns.txt
: a.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.41] =>
: www.thought.org.38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org.
:
: ns1.localhostservices.net. [69.55.236.116] =>
: www.thought.org.38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org.
:
: ns1.thought.org. [209.180.213.210] =>
: www.thought.org.38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org.
:
: ns2.secondary.com. [198.133.199.4] =>
:
: c.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.43] =>
: www.thought.org.38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org.
:
: b.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.42] =>
: www.thought.org.38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org.
:
: d.ns.celestial.com. [65.255.106.20
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
In message: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmo...@potentialtech.com> Bill Moran writes: : In response to Anton Shterenlikht : : : > >From my information security manager: : > : > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a : > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: : > : > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html : : Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he : realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for all : of 2009? Hell, Microsoft has that many in an average month. And many of them were for code supplied by others... : If he can find something (other than OpenBSD) with a better record than : that, I'd love to hear about it. Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record? Warner ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
> > Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record? I found this for loose reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditing I will say that even though on the surface OpenBSD appears to have a better track record security wise I tend to use FreeBSD for my desktop needs because of things like Nvidia Graphics (esp now that there is amd64 support) also wine works in FreeBSD and some of my clinets still run windows apps. I find FreeBSD is the middle ground the world needs between Linix and OpenBSD Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Why /usr/ports/UPDATING and /usr/src/UPDATING files are needed?
When I am in FreeBSD I have to be always aware that I have to check these files before upgrading the system. And I need to do some custom things myself. When I am in Ubuntu apt-get just does everything by itself without manual intervention. Why FreeBSD doesn't automate things that are in UPDATING files as well? In almost 100% of cases it's no-brainer. Why can't portupgrade just execute a script instead of posting such script in UPDATING file and have me run it? Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Mutt and openssl from port
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0200 l...@lena.kiev.ua wrote:
>7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to pop3s.
>openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package
>(in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf:
>
>WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes
>
>and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base:
>
>~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt
>/usr/local/bin/mutt:
>libncursesw.so.7 => /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000)
>libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000)
>libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x2819)
>libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000)
>libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000)
>libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000)
>
Right. We tor users just went through that, too. The problem is that
what WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES does is to add -L/usr/local/lib to the cc or gcc
command that does the link edit step. However, that adds the desired
directory to the *end* of the list of directories to be searched, when what
you want is to put it at the beginning of the list. What I ended up doing
was to add LDFLAGS="-rpath=/usr/local/lib" to the ./configure step for tor,
so you may want to take a look at the "make config" target to see how best
to do that for mutt. Be careful that the use of -rpath won't cause it to
include libraries from /usr/local/lib instead of from the base system for
other stuff where you might not want that to happen.
>Then I patched /usr/ports/mail/mutt/Makefile :
>
> CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \
>- --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
>+ --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
>
>but got the same. I suppose that OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE doesn't work:
>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065565.html
>What can I do?
>
See explanation above.
Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
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Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware
Robert Fitzpatrick writes: > On 12/12/2009 12:59 PM, andrew clarke wrote: >> On Sat 2009-12-12 12:06:18 UTC-0500, Robert Fitzpatrick (rob...@webtent.com) >> wrote: >> >> >>> pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf >>> kern.ipc.semmni=32 >>> kern.ipc.semmns=512 >>> hint.apic.0.disabled=1 >>> >> According to the loader.conf man page these should all be in the format: >> >> kern.ipc.semmni="32" >> kern.ipc.semmns="512" >> hint.apic.0.disabled="1" >> >> I don't know if this matters. >> >> I'm not sure hint.apic.0.disabled is valid for 7.2. sysctl -a doesn't >> list this variable on my machine. Maybe it's only available on some >> machines. >> >> >>> The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with >>> an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this >>> issue? >>> >> Can you use ntpd? >> >> Regards >> Andrew >> > > I'm pulling from a time server now every hour, keeps it from getting > behind too much. Perhaps that is what I'll end up doing, loading the > ntp server, I guess that would keep it up to date better? Thanks. If it is consistently off by a certain amount, then you might want to look into /usr/sbin/ntptime to set a frequency offset. If it works, then you can put it into somewhere like /etc/rc.local. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record? I found this for loose reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditing I will say that even though on the surface OpenBSD appears to have a better track record security wise I tend to use FreeBSD for my desktop needs because of things like Nvidia Graphics (esp now that there is amd64 support) Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm eagerly waiting for it, but I can't find anything other than a forum post (I don't have the address handy at this computer, but I know it's somewhere in the mailing list archive) from Zander at Nvidia corporation saying it's on its way. also wine works in FreeBSD and some of my clinets still run windows apps. I find FreeBSD is the middle ground the world needs between Linix and OpenBSD Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142120 On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >>> >>> Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record? >> >> >> I found this for loose reference. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditing >> >> I will say that even though on the surface OpenBSD appears to have a >> better track record security wise >> I tend to use FreeBSD for my desktop needs because of things like >> Nvidia Graphics (esp now that there is amd64 support) > > Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the makefile > for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm eagerly waiting > for it, but I can't find anything other than a forum post (I don't have the > address handy at this computer, but I know it's somewhere in the mailing > list archive) from Zander at Nvidia corporation saying it's on its way. > >> also wine works in FreeBSD and some of my clinets still run windows apps. >> >> I find FreeBSD is the middle ground the world needs between Linix and >> OpenBSD >> >> Sam Fourman Jr. >> Fourman Networks >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:23:00 Rolf Nielsen wrote: > Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the > makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm > eagerly waiting for it, but I can't find anything other than a forum > post (I don't have the address handy at this computer, but I know it's > somewhere in the mailing list archive) from Zander at Nvidia corporation > saying it's on its way. > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142120 -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
Mario Lobo wrote: On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:23:00 Rolf Nielsen wrote: Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm eagerly waiting for it, but I can't find anything other than a forum post (I don't have the address handy at this computer, but I know it's somewhere in the mailing list archive) from Zander at Nvidia corporation saying it's on its way. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142120 Thanks Mario and George. Just installed it and rebooted now. :D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Source upgrade from 7.2R o 8.0R
When I try to build a kernel, make buildkernel, it complains that several directories are missing, i.e., axe, ums, umass, etc. I'm doing a make update and my file says src-all, so how could there be missing directories? I'm using csup. I tried to go back and use cvsup, but it appears it's been removed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD
James Phillips wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec > 2009 23:52:50 +0200 > From: ly4uk Root >> Subject: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD [snip] > > Now, this post is interesting. I'm sure many people with a software > background may be tempted to write this report off as completely > implausible. The truth is even "non-moving" parts such as inductors > and possibly capacitors can move in response to an applied signal. > For example, my ADSL modem with no moving parts makes an audible > hissing noise louder than the (80mm) fan noise of my BSD server. It is possible for one or more electronic components to emit a noise, even an integrated circuit. This is usually the result of an abnormal operating condition which has established a self sustaining oscillation, which requires some form of feedback loop to operate. The quintessential example is the horizontal output transistor in an analog television or CRT style monitor. These normally operate at about 15KHz but not audibly. When the components around them have altered value enough to change bias voltages they will oscillate and produce a loud high pitched whine. Failure is what eventually occurs in this situation. I had one machine that the memory would "sing" only when a make buildworld was run in FreeBSD. I have an old British Airways movie headphone set from back when their system was acoustic with air tubes. This works really well for examining where a sound is coming from. > I have no idea what would be causing this in 8.0-RC2, but I can > suggest what to look for: anything polling the drive in the audible > frequency range (20 to 20 thousand times per second). Another > possiblity is any action the repeats at that rate, but was not > present in ealier versions. The timer interrupt is in that range, but > other systems like GNU/Linux (before the tickless kernel) and Windows > use a similar timer. There are now 3 timers to choose from, and I think the default changed to the acpi fast timer. Interesting analysis, but very well could be related. > To the original poster: you say this is a laptop. How do you know the > noise is coming from the hard drive and not some other component like > the speakers/Network card/fan? > Regards, > Yes, the noise could be coming from elsewhere. And if it is indeed coming from a VLSI type of chip it does not bode well. This indicates some form of abnormal operation which is most often eventually destructive in nature. There is actually probably very little you can actually do about it, so just live with it and "if it ain't broke don't fix it". When it is broke hit repeatedly with progressively larger hammers until it's in pieces and you now need a new one. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DNS problems at thought.org
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:25:43 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:29:30AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> You have some serious DNS issues with your current setup. I think you >> should start by: >> >> 1) *Removing* from the NS records of your domain the name servers that >> are not necessary (the celestial.com ones). >> >> 2) *Updating* the NS list of the same domain at the DNS registrar you are >> using to use ns1.thought.org and ns1.localhostservices.net. >> >> 3) Checking the firewall settings at ns1.thought.org to see why it does >> not respond to queries. > Jon just got home ansd mailed me about my secondaries. With > what he said, or tired to explain, and what you have below, > the picture is pretty clear. Jon think I need to drop the > ns2.secondary.com secondaries and others that are not consistent. > > Some point to aristotle; others to ethic. Yes, that makes perfect sense. It's the main reason why I wrote step 1 in the above list. >> When you *do* update the NS listing through your DNS registration >> service, point it _only_ at name servers that really have a valid >> copy of your zone files and are set up to serve as secondaries. >> After a while, when the changes propagate to all the name servers, >> your domain should work fine with bind (either the base-system or >> ports version). > > Thijngs may be happening. Since I have no webserver apps [GUI] I gave > the gkg.net info to Jon and asked him to edit my files there. i use > pfsense as my firewall. I'm still in learning mode about its fine > points, but from what I understand, it points only to ethic ... I > think in the past few days--two or three days. > > *Thanks* for filling in the blank spaces. No problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't get a full fbsd 7.2 amd64 install
At 11:50 AM 12/10/2009, you wrote: >fbsd 7.2 >amd64 >"kernel developer" install > >Here's a successful install du > >du -d1 -h / >2.0K/.snap >2.0K/dev >1.8G/usr >1.6G/var >1.7M/etc >2.0K/cdrom >2.0K/dist >1.1M/bin >206M/boot >6.7M/lib >396K/libexec >2.0K/media >2.0K/mnt >2.0K/proc >4.0M/rescue > 42K/root >4.3M/sbin > 24K/tmp >3.6G/ < > >here's what we're getting on another machine, way too little: > >du -h -d1 / >2.0K/.snap >2.0K/dev >1.1G/usr >238K/var >1.7M/etc >2.0K/cdrom >2.0K/dist >1.1M/bin >411M/boot >6.7M/lib >396K/libexec >2.0K/media >2.0K/mnt >2.0K/proc >4.0M/rescue > 10K/root >4.3M/sbin > 12K/tmp >1.5G/ < > >and /usr is also missing 800 MB just after install. > >using 7.2 amd64 disc01, as forever. > >I ran sysinstall, post install config, and checked stuff, but still didn't >get, eg, anything in /usr/bin/ > >comments? > >Could my client have chosen the wrong .iso? the amd64 .iso is verified as disc01 and we have the same partial install failure, with no install errors, on two machines, Dell 1850, with amd64 and i386. any ideas? Len ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't get a full fbsd 7.2 amd64 install
I could be mistaken, but that sounds like an awfully big /var and /usr. Are you sure this is a vanilla install that no one has touched? -- randi On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Len Conrad wrote: > At 11:50 AM 12/10/2009, you wrote: >>fbsd 7.2 >>amd64 >>"kernel developer" install >> >>Here's a successful install du >> >>du -d1 -h / >>2.0K /.snap >>2.0K /dev >>1.8G /usr >>1.6G /var >>1.7M /etc >>2.0K /cdrom >>2.0K /dist >>1.1M /bin >>206M /boot >>6.7M /lib >>396K /libexec >>2.0K /media >>2.0K /mnt >>2.0K /proc >>4.0M /rescue >> 42K /root >>4.3M /sbin >> 24K /tmp >>3.6G / < >> >>here's what we're getting on another machine, way too little: >> >>du -h -d1 / >>2.0K /.snap >>2.0K /dev >>1.1G /usr >>238K /var >>1.7M /etc >>2.0K /cdrom >>2.0K /dist >>1.1M /bin >>411M /boot >>6.7M /lib >>396K /libexec >>2.0K /media >>2.0K /mnt >>2.0K /proc >>4.0M /rescue >> 10K /root >>4.3M /sbin >> 12K /tmp >>1.5G / < >> >>and /usr is also missing 800 MB just after install. >> >>using 7.2 amd64 disc01, as forever. >> >>I ran sysinstall, post install config, and checked stuff, but still didn't >>get, eg, anything in /usr/bin/ >> >>comments? >> >>Could my client have chosen the wrong .iso? > > the amd64 .iso is verified as disc01 and we have the same partial install > failure, with no install errors, on two machines, Dell 1850, with amd64 and > i386. > > any ideas? > > Len > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
