[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #15059] 2.2 Beta comments

2010-11-27 Thread pepeto

Update of bug #15059 (project freeciv):

  Status:None = Duplicate  
 Open/Closed:Open = Closed 

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Follow-up Comment #2:

This item has been split into bug #15089, bug #15090 and bug #15091.


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[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #15059] 2.2 Beta comments

2010-01-10 Thread pepeto

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #15059 (project freeciv):

 Is there something somewhere that explains, in plain English,
 what the differences are between the versions? Something more
 thorough than the bulleted lists on the news page but not nearly
 so convoluted as the changelog page? For example, I discovered
 the hard way the new happiness rule for Republic governments.
 Didn't see this listed.

What new rule are you talking about?

 What is the Cheating AI difficulty level about? The biggest
 drawback of the game has been the cheating, the way the AI
 knows the map without exploring and magically knows where all
 of the human player's cities and units are. The cheating
 destroys the credibility of the game. Give the AI a nice
 handicap (fewer bulbs to research techs, fewer shields to
 construct items, less food to grow), but the cheating has to
 go. Has it been eliminated? I haven't been able to tell yet.

The AI already has different types of handicap that you are requesting.  The
unknown map is one of them.  I think it should stay, because some players
like to play with it.  I guess the only thing that could be done is to have
editable handicap in addition of the current predefines AI levels.  I created
an wish item for this (bug#15089).

 To gauge time, use the correct and religiously neutral
 abbreviations BCE and CE, rather than the old, incorrect and
 religiously biased BC and AD.

I agree.  See bug#15090.

 The unit report is inaccurate. It omits the free units
 acquired at the beginning of the game (Explorer, two Workers)
 and all free (not owned by any city) units subsequently
 picked up by the Explorer via minor tribes.

Confirmed.  See bug#15091.


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[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #15059] 2.2 Beta comments

2010-01-10 Thread pepeto

Update of bug #15059 (project freeciv):

Priority:  5 - Normal = 1 - Later  


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[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #15059] 2.2 Beta comments

2010-01-05 Thread anonymous

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 Summary: 2.2 Beta comments
 Project: Freeciv
Submitted by: None
Submitted on: Tuesday 01/05/2010 at 23:33 CET
Category: None
Severity: 2 - Minor
Priority: 5 - Normal
  Status: None
 Assigned to: None
Originator Email: 
 Open/Closed: Open
 Release: 2.2 Beta
 Discussion Lock: Any
Operating System: Microsoft Windows
 Planned Release: 

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Details:

Hello. Many of these comments apply to version 2.1 as well as 2.2. I've
played only portions of games thus far.

Is there something somewhere that explains, in plain English, what the
differences are between the versions? Something more thorough than the
bulleted lists on the news page but not nearly so convoluted as the changelog
page? For example, I discovered the hard way the new happiness rule for
Republic governments. Didn't see this listed.

What is the Cheating AI difficulty level about? The biggest drawback of the
game has been the cheating, the way the AI knows the map without exploring
and magically knows where all of the human player's cities and units are. The
cheating destroys the credibility of the game. Give the AI a nice handicap
(fewer bulbs to research techs, fewer shields to construct items, less food
to grow), but the cheating has to go. Has it been eliminated? I haven't been
able to tell yet.

To gauge time, use the correct and religiously neutral abbreviations BCE and
CE, rather than the old, incorrect and religiously biased BC and AD.

When the cursor appears on a unit or city, it becomes a spinning globe. I
find this annoying and prefer the simple arrow, as it is everywhere else.

If Barbarians (or Pirates) don't appear until a certain turn, it's logical
that they not be the result of minor tribes until that turn as well. Maybe
I'm being a crybaby, but the Explorer is extremely valuable in the early
going. Losing him is quite a jolt. Rotten luck, and I usually just start the
game over!

Huts again. I think the game would be better if huts never resulted in
friendly cities. They're rarely friendly. They're almost never where you
want them, so I disband them to settlers. And if an AI explorer stumbles upon
a city in my territory, it's a major pain. There are even occasions later on
when I have a Republic government, have carefully laid out 13 cities and my
explorer finds another minor tribe. The last thing I want is a 14th city,
leaving me one over the happiness limit.

Suggest throttling growth is a nice feature that comes in handy on
occasion, but still is imperfect. It still kicks in when the city is en route
to build the granary on the very turn that it will grow. In these cases the
city gets the granary's benefit, so the warning is unnecessary.

After a while, the game seems to lose track of the order in which cities were
built. Version 2.1 knew the order and processed cities in this order (or
reverse). 2.2 does for a while, but later loses track. Or maybe it has other
ideas I'm missing.

When saving, closing, then resuming, I notice the same phenomenon that
plagued 2.1. The AI would, upon resumption, stop building Wonders in
progress. It did this every time without fail. It did it again here, although
in the one case I tested, they restarted immediately, so didn't seem to lose
anything.

The unit report is inaccurate. It omits the free units acquired at the
beginning of the game (Explorer, two Workers) and all free (not owned by
any city) units subsequently picked up by the Explorer via minor tribes.

All for now. Thanks for your efforts.

Bill





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