Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom, was Re: Booting and FDAPM

2023-03-19 Thread Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel
Hi Jerome,

> At present, the RBE is not setup to include 2 branches from the same GitLab 
> project. 
> 
> It would require a separate GitLab project (with a different name, like 
> watcomv2). I think having two different watcom C packages could cause user 
> confusion on which one to install. It would also take up a lot of space on 
> the OS install media. I think it would probably be better to wait for v2 to 
> produce a stable release and then upgrade our 1.9 package to v2.

If I may make a wish I would prefer to stay at 1.9 :-)

There is also a sign of life on the original Open Watcom site 
http://openwatcom.org, stating that they will continue working on the 1.9 
branch. But considering their history…

See you in a few hours
Bernd



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Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom, was Re: Booting and FDAPM

2023-03-18 Thread Michael Brutman
+1 - Open Watcom 1.9 is stable and safe.  I think those factors make it the
default for inclusion in a distribution.

Something actively under development and in between releases sounds like a
bad idea.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:42 AM  wrote:

> Hi Bernd,
>
> > On Mar 17, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel <
> freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >
> > IDLEHALT=1 works for my machines and reduces the CPU load under
> VirtualBox to nearly zero at the command prompt.
> >
> >> Am 17.03.2023 um 15:25 schrieb jer...@shidel.net:
> >>
> >> On a side note… Why run the watcom installer at all? Installing the
> FreeDOS WATCOMC 1.9 package through FDIMPLES, even with FDAPM and DOSLFN
> loaded takes about 1 minute inside VirtualBox. We could most likely just
> provide a WATCOM2C package and avoid the whole issue completely.
> >
> > Yes, was only for testing purposes :-)
> >
> > If v2 is packaged would it be possible to continue shipping the 1.9
> branch in parallel? My impression is that the v2 fork focusses on adding
> new stuff: Linux support, 64-bit and so forth… And from time to time they
> seem to break older stuff. I at least under Win9x encountered some
> regressions.
> >
> > Greetings, Bernd
> >
>
> At present, the RBE is not setup to include 2 branches from the same
> GitLab project.
>
> It would require a separate GitLab project (with a different name, like
> watcomv2). I think having two different watcom C packages could cause user
> confusion on which one to install. It would also take up a lot of space on
> the OS install media. I think it would probably be better to wait for v2 to
> produce a stable release and then upgrade our 1.9 package to v2.
>
> But, I don’t use watcom. So, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe having both would be
> better. Or, possibly include 1.9 with the release and have v2 available on
> the download repo.
>
> :-)
>
> Jerome
>
>
>
>
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[Freedos-devel] watcom, was Re: Booting and FDAPM

2023-03-18 Thread jerome
Hi Bernd,

> On Mar 17, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> IDLEHALT=1 works for my machines and reduces the CPU load under VirtualBox to 
> nearly zero at the command prompt.
> 
>> Am 17.03.2023 um 15:25 schrieb jer...@shidel.net:
>> 
>> On a side note… Why run the watcom installer at all? Installing the FreeDOS 
>> WATCOMC 1.9 package through FDIMPLES, even with FDAPM and DOSLFN loaded 
>> takes about 1 minute inside VirtualBox. We could most likely just provide a 
>> WATCOM2C package and avoid the whole issue completely. 
> 
> Yes, was only for testing purposes :-) 
> 
> If v2 is packaged would it be possible to continue shipping the 1.9 branch in 
> parallel? My impression is that the v2 fork focusses on adding new stuff: 
> Linux support, 64-bit and so forth… And from time to time they seem to break 
> older stuff. I at least under Win9x encountered some regressions.
> 
> Greetings, Bernd
> 

At present, the RBE is not setup to include 2 branches from the same GitLab 
project. 

It would require a separate GitLab project (with a different name, like 
watcomv2). I think having two different watcom C packages could cause user 
confusion on which one to install. It would also take up a lot of space on the 
OS install media. I think it would probably be better to wait for v2 to produce 
a stable release and then upgrade our 1.9 package to v2.

But, I don’t use watcom. So, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe having both would be 
better. Or, possibly include 1.9 with the release and have v2 available on the 
download repo.

:-)

Jerome 




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