Re: [Freedos-user] why make partitions hidden?
LV - Drive -, NTFS, primary, hidden, Windows XP LV - Drive -, NTFS, primary, hidden, Windows 2000 LV - Drive C, FAT32, primary, active, FreeDOS Eric Why would you make the ntfs drives hidden? DOS will not use them anyway... This is just an example of the most straightforward configuration (I think) for a poster who doesn't seem to have much experience with multi-boot systems. NTFS partitions in the above example could of course remain visible because FreeDOS will simply ignore any partition with a file system other than FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32. Arkady You can have 4 primary partitions or up to 3 primary partitions and one extended partition with any quantity of logical partitions. Thanks, Arkady for correcting my original message. I should have read it twice before posting. Lester -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS 0.9 SR2
I have more to report on this problem. I am using current stable: kernel - 1.1.35 Build 2035b-cvs, 2006-05-21 freecom - 0.84-pre XMS_Swap, 2006-05-21 himem + emm386 - from emmx208 or emm208x ZIP archive I might have added to the original postby saying that this problem does not occur on an older 486 SX2-50 (no math coprocessor) in an ISA-only motherboard. Only on this newer Pentium 100 with PCI + ISA. I could also have added that all my DOS games (Doom, Quake, Duke, Spacequest, Beneath A Steel Sky) run fine on this computer and configuration. On the chance that there was a physical memory problem I dropped from 16 to 8 MB (no difference), and then also swapped in the extra 8 MB (no difference). One thing I noticed in further testing was that Draw, Paint and Doodle have the most problems. All freehand programs. And if they load successfully, then they work until you try to close them. Artline is rather stable by comparison, though it does not seem to offer a freehand tool, at least that I could find quickly. If I drop all the way to no HIMEM and no EMM386, there is insufficient memory to run Artline or Paint. Draw, Write, Tetris, Scgem, and Fanwor all seemed to work. But Doodle locks the machine when it closes. If I add back HIMEM but not EMM386, Doodle causes a reboot while it is loading. And Write and Draw lock up the machine while loading. If I add back HIMEM and EMM386, Doodle, Draw and Paint all lock up the machine while closing. I saw a thread (March?) in the OpenGEM-dev list that for the OpenGEM/XM project, there was a user who, when he was running more than one GEM app with graphics under FreeDOS, there was some kind of interference. The opinion there was that the problem wastraceable to the FreeDOS kernel, because the problem did not occur with a couple of other DOS kernels. This sort of behavior seemed related to what I am experiencing on this computer. --John Hupp P.S. my test config autoexec,further simplified from the originally reported configurations -more mod reportsabove: LASTDRIVE=ZBUFFERS=30FILES=40DOS=HIGH,UMBDEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXEDEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST VDSSHELL=C:\command.com C:\ /E:512 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT -- SET PROMPT=$P$GSET DOSDIR=C:\FDOSSET PATH=C:\NET;C:\;C:\FDOS\bin;C:\DOSSHELL;C:\PKZIPSET TEMP=C:\FDOS\TEMPSET TMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP CTMOUSE ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS 0.9 SR2
At 11:38 AM 6/5/2006 -0400, John Hupp wrote: I could also have added that all my DOS games (Doom, Quake, Duke, Spacequest, Beneath A Steel Sky) run fine on this computer and configuration. On the chance that there was a physical memory problem I dropped from 16 to 8 MB (no difference), and then also swapped in the extra 8 MB (no difference). One thing I noticed in further testing was that Draw, Paint and Doodle have the most problems. All freehand programs. And if they load successfully, then they work until you try to close them. Artline is rather stable by comparison, though it does not seem to offer a freehand tool, at least that I could find quickly. If I drop all the way to no HIMEM and no EMM386, there is insufficient memory to run Artline or Paint. Draw, Write, Tetris, Scgem, and Fanwor all seemed to work. But Doodle locks the machine when it closes. If I add back HIMEM but not EMM386, Doodle causes a reboot while it is loading. And Write and Draw lock up the machine while loading. If I add back HIMEM and EMM386, Doodle, Draw and Paint all lock up the machine while closing. I'm in the middle of working full-time on two different projects, but I might be able to take a look at this in a week or two. Probably not sooner and possibly later. I'll need a download link for the problematic GEM, though. If it's kernel, I likely won't be able to help further. You might also try EMM386 NOALTBOOT option. I know GEOS needs that option, not that it has anything to do with GEM. Except for starting with a GE, so maybe that's it. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS 0.9 SR2
Michael, Eric, All: I went into this round of tests with this configuration, and cut back progressively as I describe below: LASTDRIVE=Z BUFFERS=30 FILES=40 DOS=HIGH,UMB DOSDATA=UMB DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST VDS SHELL=C:\command.com C:\ /E:512 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT - SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS SET PATH=C:\NET;C:\;C:\FDOS\bin;C:\DOSSHELL;C:\PKZIP SET TEMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP SET TMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP CTMOUSE I do not find any combination of options for EMM386 that will work: adding NOALTBOOT, removing VDS, removing NOEMS. If I do not load EMM386 at all and just run HIMEM (keeping DOS=HIGH,UMB and DOSDATA=UMB), GEM Draw, Doodle and Paint all reboot while loading. If I then also remove DOSDATA=UMB, all three programs either reboot or hang while loading. If I then also remove DOS=HIGH,UMB, all three programs will load, but all three hang while quitting. If I then also remove HIMEM, Draw both loads and quits, Doodle loads but hangs while quitting (except that the mouse pointer is still active), and there is insufficient memory to load Paint. If I then also remove CTMOUSE from AUTOEXEC and operate GEM in mouse-free keyboard mode, the results are yet slightly worse: all three programs hang while loading. I could add that I removed the ISA sound and network cards for this round of tests. Only the PCI video card was installed (though I let stand legacy IRQ reservations in the BIOS setup). I am working with OpenGEM 5, downloaded from http://gem.shaneland.co.uk/downloads/complete/OPENGEM5.zip. This is the same version of GEM that runs fine under the same version of FreeDOS (with the same updates) on a 486 SX2-50 machine. As I said in an earlier post, I went into this problem with a computer that was running all my DOS games fine in the original more-complex configuration, and also served fine as a DOS network client, so there is some odd interaction between GEM/GEM Apps and FreeDOS at a low level on this machine. This despite the fact that GEM has always had such minimal requirements for hardware and operating system support. --John Hupp - Original Message - From: Michael Devore To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS 0.9 SR2 I'm in the middle of working full-time on two different projects, but I might be able to take a look at this in a week or two. Probably not sooner and possibly later. I'll need a download link for the problematic GEM, though. If it's kernel, I likely won't be able to help further. You might also try EMM386 NOALTBOOT option. I know GEOS needs that option, not that it has anything to do with GEM. Except for starting with a GE, so maybe that's it. - Original Message - From: Eric Auer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: emm386 idea hi, you should try without the noems option and/or without the vds option... eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
