Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! Unfortunately FreeDOS does not support Win9x. Well there are 2 ways of support: Win9x includes MS DOS 7 so you should only RUN it in MS DOS 7... But you can start the INSTALLERS of various Windows versions from within other DOS :-). I think what you are trying to do is boot DOS from diskette because your BIOS cannot boot from cdrom directly? My BIOS allow to boot from cdrom. But the win95 cdrom I own is not bootable... In that case you can use a grub4dos or btmgr (smart boot manager) boot diskette which boots your cdrom for you. Or you can use a FreeDOS boot diskette to run the setup program of Win9x, but then you will have to take care to use a suitable configuration. This is what I am trying to do. For example loading only HIMEM but no EMM386 would be a suggestion, and loading only a minimum collection of other drivers. Do you mean HIMEM.EXE ? It seems win95 does not think it is compatible. Try whether loading or not loading SHARE works better. Being a newbie to FREEDOS, I have no idea where to download those drivers from before putting them on my floppy. For cdrom drivers, try xcdrom or uide and shsucdx. If you have them, compare whether Win9x prefers MSCDEX and the cdrom drivers included in a Win9x boot diskette. The contents of such a boot diskette should also be somewhere on the Win9x cdrom so you can copy them, but this is just a guess :-). Good point. I'll check that ! Eric Thanks for details :-) -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Godefroid Chapelle schrieb: Hello, I am trying to setup Win 95 from FreeDOS. I boot from freedos standard. Then load the cdrom driver. Ok :-) If I try to run install.exe for win95, it complains about high memory support being incompatible. Are there any known workarounds ? Thanks Unfortunately FreeDOS does not support Win9x. -mr - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Michael Reichenbach wrote: Godefroid Chapelle schrieb: Hello, I am trying to setup Win 95 from FreeDOS. I boot from freedos standard. Then load the cdrom driver. Ok :-) If I try to run install.exe for win95, it complains about high memory support being incompatible. Are there any known workarounds ? Thanks Unfortunately FreeDOS does not support Win9x. -mr Would you have a hint of another system that would allow to install Win95 from CD without owning DOS on floppies ? -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Hi! Unfortunately FreeDOS does not support Win9x. Well there are 2 ways of support: Win9x includes MS DOS 7 so you should only RUN it in MS DOS 7... But you can start the INSTALLERS of various Windows versions from within other DOS :-). I think what you are trying to do is boot DOS from diskette because your BIOS cannot boot from cdrom directly? In that case you can use a grub4dos or btmgr (smart boot manager) boot diskette which boots your cdrom for you. Or you can use a FreeDOS boot diskette to run the setup program of Win9x, but then you will have to take care to use a suitable configuration. For example loading only HIMEM but no EMM386 would be a suggestion, and loading only a minimum collection of other drivers. Try whether loading or not loading SHARE works better. For cdrom drivers, try xcdrom or uide and shsucdx. If you have them, compare whether Win9x prefers MSCDEX and the cdrom drivers included in a Win9x boot diskette. The contents of such a boot diskette should also be somewhere on the Win9x cdrom so you can copy them, but this is just a guess :-). Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Godefroid Chapelle schrieb: Michael Reichenbach wrote: Godefroid Chapelle schrieb: Hello, I am trying to setup Win 95 from FreeDOS. I boot from freedos standard. Then load the cdrom driver. Ok :-) If I try to run install.exe for win95, it complains about high memory support being incompatible. Are there any known workarounds ? Thanks Unfortunately FreeDOS does not support Win9x. -mr Would you have a hint of another system that would allow to install Win95 from CD without owning DOS on floppies ? You need a Win95 boot floppy with CD-ROM drivers. (you find them hopefully still on the net) What devices you can boot from? CD-ROM? USB? If you can not boot from floppy because you do not own a floppy then there is a workarround, a bit tricky... You can boot (CD-ROM or USB) from grub and then use memdisk. Or you boot from grub4dos and then use floppy emulation. Both ways would emulate a boot floppy. Fine enough for installing Win9x. It`s also possible to install MS-DOS on USB pendrive or harddrive. Instructions also online. -mr - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Hello, I am trying to setup Win 95 from FreeDOS. I boot from freedos standard. Then load the cdrom driver. Ok :-) If I try to run install.exe for win95, it complains about high memory support being incompatible. Are there any known workarounds ? Thanks -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] cutemouse ctmouse 2.1 beta 4 and jwasm news
Hi! Eric Auer wrote: almost a year after cutemouse 2.1 beta 3 I can present ctmouse 2.1 beta 4 :-). This is a version with debugging output in the PS2 config stuff. Compared to beta 3, it adds support for touchpads in Dell Inspiron 1501 (where int 15.c204 PS2 ident fails) and changes the meaning of /O from disable wheel to enable wheel - default is now NO wheel because only very few DOS apps use the wheel and the wheel detection does not work on all systems. Option /M (disable mouse systems / old genius) is now ignored. A new option /Y enables old genius. Is there a way to disable/enable tapping? Currently (on Asus eeePC) I use Synaptics DOS Driver from http://www.eaglecomputing.com/portables/downloads.htm but there are no sources and the driver consumes more memory than ordinary mouse driver. Andris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Godefroid Chapelle wrote: But the win95 cdrom I own is not bootable... Just get the appropriate boot disk from http://nerdlabs.org/bootdisks/ or http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm. Easy to find via Google... Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Michael Reichenbach wrote: He said he has no floppy anymore. So this is a bit more complicated. Where exactly? I only see without owning DOS on floppies, which is something completely different. Nevertheless he could buy (or borrow) a USB floppy drive. I prefer NEC here. Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] computer restarting without error message
I believe that you will have a hard time making that work, but I may suggest an alternative: Make a different partition for all your dada and make it encrypted. You can manage to have your data available from both both XT and FreeDOS. I use a similar setup where my data is allways D: and C: is many things: FreeDOS on HW, Dosemu, Win98, XT, VMware and many permutations of those. After a time you can have a working environment with all of them. ALain Michael Reichenbach escreveu: Hi! I made a little 'experiment'. (1) created a virtual machine (2) formated the virtual harddisk with fat32 with Windows XP setup (3) installed Windows XP (4) copied all files (gldr and such) from the directory grub4dos-0.4.3-2008-05-02 to C:\ (5) added in C:\boot.ini C:\grldr=Start GRUB4DOS (6) copied FreeDOS files (kernel.sys and command.com) to C:\ (7) tested if I could dual boot XP and FreeDOS - worked (8) installed TrueCrypt 5.1a (9) selected to encrypt system disk with TrueCrypt (whole drive) (10) made pretest (11) not started to encrypt, only the 'bootguard' was installed (12) restarted and selected grub4dos at nt bootloader (13) attempted to start FreeDOS (kernel.sys) - did not work - computer restarted very fast automatically. I could read FreeDOS Kernel before but the computer restarts so fast I can not press pause and read any other output. Any idea? You can see it as a 'bug report'. Because I could read 'FreeDOS Kernel' (the kernel started) but then the system rebooted without any error message or error handling. Maybe you are interested in what I wanted to test So some lines about. I *suspect* TrueCrypt hooks the BIOS interrupt with the encryption driver in stage one (stage two would be hooking the windows 32 bit controller driver). So I thought if FreeDOS would use the (hooked) BIOS interrupt also it could access the same encrypted disk. -mr - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Robert Riebisch schrieb: Godefroid Chapelle wrote: But the win95 cdrom I own is not bootable... Just get the appropriate boot disk from http://nerdlabs.org/bootdisks/ or http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm. Easy to find via Google... Robert Riebisch He said he has no floppy anymore. So this is a bit more complicated. -mr - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
Robert Riebisch wrote: Godefroid Chapelle wrote: But the win95 cdrom I own is not bootable... Just get the appropriate boot disk from http://nerdlabs.org/bootdisks/ or http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm. Thanks for the info. Easy to find via Google... I inferred wrongly that Win95 was not available as bootable disk and did not even think of searching for it :-S Robert Riebisch -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
O/H [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε: My BIOS allow to boot from cdrom. But the win95 cdrom I own is not bootable... Why don't you just installing from a bootable win95 cd? There is no chance to get a replacement cd, but you can grab a copy from around the net. I've heard that it is legal (since you own a legit copy) for you to do it, and you can use even your own s/n. I've also read, that it is legal for every win customer to own previous version of windows. OK! I'm not a lawyer, so I can't guarantee that. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
-- Original message -- From: Robert Riebisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Reichenbach wrote: He said he has no floppy anymore. So this is a bit more complicated. Where exactly? I only see without owning DOS on floppies, which is something completely different. Nevertheless he could buy (or borrow) a USB floppy drive. I prefer NEC here. Robert Riebisch -- If the lack of a floppy disk is the only issue, it is easy to create a bootable CD from a floppy disk image. Most BIOS's will boot a CD. Doing this doesn't require a CD ROM driver. Mark - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install Win95 from freedos
I don't know what exactly you need W95 for, but I've switched to Linux (Debian) to get away from all that license hullaballu. For compensation, I get thousands of applications, programming languages, etc. Freedos runs very well in a dosemu window of Linux. I suspect you all know that already, and if so I apologize for commenting. --- Giorgos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O/H [EMAIL PROTECTED] ÎγÏαÏε: My BIOS allow to boot from cdrom. But the win95 cdrom I own is not bootable... Why don't you just installing from a bootable win95 cd? There is no chance to get a replacement cd, but you can grab a copy from around the net. I've heard that it is legal (since you own a legit copy) for you to do it, and you can use even your own s/n. I've also read, that it is legal for every win customer to own previous version of windows. OK! I'm not a lawyer, so I can't guarantee that. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
