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2012-02-01 Thread Manjunath ML
Hi,

 

I am trying to use a USB memory disk along with FreeDOS. I am a running a
CAM software and need a facility to transfer drawings from other computers
to the PC used to run the CAM software and USB Memory disk is the simplest
way. Can anyone let m know if this is possible and how.

 

Thanks

Manjunath

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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-02-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 1-2-2012 17:56, Manjunath ML schreef:

 I am trying to use a USB memory disk along with FreeDOS. I am a running
 a CAM software and need a facility to transfer drawings from other
 computers to the PC used to run the CAM software and USB Memory disk is
 the simplest way. Can anyone let m know if this is possible and how.

The RUFUS utility is a program you can run on Windows, it will make your 
USB Flash Drive bootable so you can start FreeDOS from USB-stick.
[ http://pete.akeo.ie/2011/12/rufus-dos-bootable-usb-formatting.html ]

Be aware it erases all current content of the USB Flash Drive, so save 
anything you'd like to keep first.

Easiest would be to have FreeDOS and the CAM software both on the USB 
drive (instead of booting DOS from harddisk then trying to get access to 
USB drive).

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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-02-01 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote:
 Op 1-2-2012 17:56, Manjunath ML schreef:

 I am trying to use a USB memory disk along with FreeDOS. I am a running
 a CAM software and need a facility to transfer drawings from other
 computers to the PC used to run the CAM software and USB Memory disk is
 the simplest way. Can anyone let m know if this is possible and how.

 The RUFUS utility is a program you can run on Windows, it will make your
 USB Flash Drive bootable so you can start FreeDOS from USB-stick.
 [ http://pete.akeo.ie/2011/12/rufus-dos-bootable-usb-formatting.html ]

Whether this works will depend upon your BIOS.  The box I have FreeDOS
on will boot from a USB floppy drive, but *not* from a USB stick.
BIOS limitation.  I can't see a USB stick from FreeDOS either, because
no driver is available that can do it.  (I've looked at the USB
drivers for FreeDOS, and they don't handle the method the box uses.)
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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Brown
You can use PLoP bootmanager: it's at www.plop.at  .
 
With this installed, you can (read-only) boot from usb stick
on even the old usb 1.1 hardware, and also you can boot from
USB when the BIOS has *_no_* support for it. It's freeware.
 
If you don't want to install it to hard drive,
you can just boot from a cd burned with it,
with the same results.
 
Comprehensive instruction is on the PLoP site.
 
If you want to install it to FreeDOS, though,
you have to boot no drivers: option 4, or any totally driverless boot.
(It doesn't agree with one or more of the memory managers.)
 
PLoP is excellent.
 
Most Sincerely,
Mark Brown
 
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 From: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
  
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote:
 Op 1-2-2012 17:56, Manjunath ML schreef:

 I am trying to use a USB memory disk along with FreeDOS. I am a running
 a CAM software and need a facility to transfer drawings from other
 computers to the PC used to run the CAM software and USB Memory disk is
 the simplest way. Can anyone let m know if this is possible and how.

 The RUFUS utility is a program you can run on Windows, it will make your
 USB Flash Drive bootable so you can start FreeDOS from USB-stick.
 [ http://pete.akeo.ie/2011/12/rufus-dos-bootable-usb-formatting.html ]

Whether this works will depend upon your BIOS.  The box I have FreeDOS
on will boot from a USB floppy drive, but *not* from a USB stick.
BIOS limitation.  I can't see a USB stick from FreeDOS either, because
no driver is available that can do it.  (I've looked at the USB
drivers for FreeDOS, and they don't handle the method the box uses.)
__
Dennis

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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-02-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 1-2-2012 19:45, dmccunney schreef:
 Whether this works will depend upon your BIOS.  The box I have FreeDOS
 on will boot from a USB floppy drive, but *not* from a USB stick.
 BIOS limitation.  I can't see a USB stick from FreeDOS either, because
 no driver is available that can do it.  (I've looked at the USB
 drivers for FreeDOS, and they don't handle the method the box uses.)

Bret's USB drivers in DOS so far are written specificly for UHCI, an USB 
1.1 implementation. Other vendor-provided (usually product-related) and 
commercial implementations exist that go beyond UHCI, one such can be 
found at [ http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/ ].

Loading USB drivers from a floppydisk inside an USB floppydrive will 
likely cause a system crash though, as these USB drivers tend to hijack 
the entire USB stack, disconnecting you from any and all previous USB 
devices and their contents (either at per-controller basis or all 
USB-controllers at the same time).

One workaround is a ramdisk loaded by floppydisk, but that's pretty 
nasty to setup properly:

* create ramdisk
* find driveletter for it
* copy shell
* copy batchfile
* copy usb drivers
* switch to ramdisk
* execute copied batchfile
* don't access A: anymore till reset

The Syslinux/memdisk method is slightly easier as the ramdisk created by 
MEMDISK will then be drive A:.
Guess I should be creating such a disk soon.

Bernd

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